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[MaidenM]

I'm torn between staying in the thread, getting Cadash through the game and going to sleep. I am not sleepy but I got lots to do tomorrow ><

[Cee]

Now that the patch is out, might be a good night to play through Doom Upon All the World one more time and generate my new endgame save.

[Fen'Eira]

We could resurrect the original spoiler group! Also worth a read if you want to see the drama of the first spoilers about who Solas was came out.

 

http://forum.bioware...at-one-spoiler/

Joined.

[Mims]

If you wish to discuss the spoilers, a thread has been made in this group. 

[coldwetn0se]

I think we should just take all spoilers at all, even hidden under spoiler tags, out of the forum and into pm.

I just made a bow with 128 dps on my level 4 archer lol

I love your non sequitur.

Mavel tov, on your new bow.

And now here is me attempting to segue into the Solas-orb-Corypheus discussion.

I have come up with a number of thoughts and theories regarding the reasons he would give C. his orb, and/or if he even understood who he was giving it to. But one thing I feel confident on, is him not knowing/believing/suspecting, that Cory would attempt some sacrificial ritual using his ball, and blow a hole in the fade to reach the Black City. Based on C.'s speech regarding this being something long in the making, the fact that he already had red lyrium at the Temple (hence he had visited dear Bianca as Larius/Janeka before the Conclave), finding out throughout the game that Cory had been looking for all things ancient elvhen, and knowing that Solas never would have wanted this (and goes out of his way to help, approves of a helpful inquisitor, not to mention all the semi-vague convo's with Cole that show a spirit of compassion believing he is trying to help/is genuine), is enough for me to believe his guilt is indirect in everyway possible. At least, when it comes to Corypheus' actions with said orb.

(and that was one hella long sentence, stuck in amongst my babbling....sorry 'bout that. )

Just my less than coherent .02.

BTW, I think the old "Spoiler" group, is technically still active. Those that want to discuss spoilers (or consequently BE spoilered), could probably use it. I grab a link - unless someone has already beaten me to it.

[coldwetn0se]

If you wish to discuss the spoilers, a thread has been made in this group. 

aaaaaand 'd by Mims.

[Garnet]

Thank you for making a seperate thread! I have a compulsion to click all the spoilers... probably from Sunny's art posts! XD

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

*snip*

Liking without likes, cus the thread took them all. Have a

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't think anybody said anything about him being be absolved of being at least partially responsible - still, question is whether the punishment would be proportional to the blame, since we don't really know just HOW responsible he is for Cory+Orb combo. 

 

We do know that he blames himself for the Orb eventually falling into his hands, but we have no idea how it went, or what was the alternative.

 

We also do know that some actions, either noble or desperate (sometimes both) lead to unforeseen consequences not everyone can control - it was a large theme in Inquisition... and if I'm to make one prediction about Trespasser that I think is fairly accurate is that - aside from Inquisitor having to deal with consequences of his/her past decision - will be put in a position to do something that may have even more dire consequences for the world, largely mirroring the fate of Fen'Harel.

 

Will you feed your Inquisitor to the snake, if history will remember them as a villain as well? Even if you do know better?

I only ever mentioned a snake when someone was wondering if Solas' comeuppance would be a hug. Didn't expect it to be taken seriously. 

 

Seriously though, he is/partly is responsible for the deaths of hundreds if not thousands of people. He shouldn't get to walk free because of that. 

[coldwetn0se]

It is a type of cipher that lets you decode things. I think its inspired by something?
 
Here's a link to the site. 
 
Sbe rknzcyr, guvf vf ebg13 pbqr.

V ybir Fbynf.

Shhh....don't tell anyone.

[NightSymphony]

Speaking of Art

 

Dream (the finished W.I.P. Sunny posted earlier)

http://drathe.devian...Dream-558094250

 

Just Solas

http://commanderlave...Solas-558091753

 

I'm Sorry

http://ladytheirin.d...rn-AU-558080782

 

Solas and Lavellan

http://binaryrabbit....ssion-558053947

 

Two Years Without You

http://mikaniac.devi...t-you-558009101

 

Solavellan

http://ladytheirin.d...ellan-558078851

 

Young Solas

http://kuranova.devi...Harel-557949497

 

Cute little drawings

http://dar-pustoshi....Solas-557911239

http://dar-pustoshi....child-558015033

[midnight tea]

I only ever mentioned a snake when someone was wondering if Solas' comeuppance would be a hug. Didn't expect it to be taken seriously. 

 

Seriously though, he is/partly is responsible for the deaths of hundreds if not thousands of people. He shouldn't get to walk free because of that. 

 

Me mentioning a snake was also tongue-in-cheek.

 

It doesn't however change my question. Will you not kill or otherwise severely punish your Inquisitor if he or she is more or less directly responsible for some sort of cataclysm? Even if, say, the alternative was worse? Or they didn't have enough information, but had to act ASAP???

[coldwetn0se]

Liking without likes, cus the thread took them all. Have a

Right back at ya!



(also outta likes. )

[SamanthaJ]

Rot13 is fun and this post is only relevant to Solas because I mentioned his name just now.

 

V pna'g oryvrir vg'f abg ohggre.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Me mentioning a snake was also tongue-in-cheek.

 

It doesn't however change my question. Will you not kill or otherwise severely punish your Inquisitor if he or she is more or less directly responsible for some sort of cataclysm? Even if, say, the alternative was worse? Or they didn't have enough information, but had to act ASAP???

Neither scenario matches Solas'. 

[midnight tea]

Neither scenario matches Solas'. 

 

And you know that how, considering that we don't yet have enough information to say that neither scenario matches what he did?

 

You also never answered my question about what would you do about Inquisitor. Why?

[MayriyaNoori]

Jus posting to push us closer to 4600.

 

SOOOOOOOLAAAAAAAAAS

 

Edit: Niiiiiiice.

 

Have some Solas.

 

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

Page 4600.
Woah

[Hanako Ikezawa]

And you know that how, considering that we don't yet have enough information to say that neither scenario matches what he did?

 

You also never answered my question about what would you do about Inquisitor. Why?

If I'm wrong and there is more to it, I'll be the first to apologize. But as of now there is nothing to suggest Solas was preventing something worse or some other altruistic motive. He says "The People need me", but that could mean any number of things, many of which bad. 

 

I didn't answer because both your scenarios do not match Solas', as far as we know. So it is not an equivalent scenario.

[SamanthaJ]

Jus posting to push us closer to 4600.

 

SOOOOOOOLAAAAAAAAAS

You actually pushed us to 4600. Be proud.

 

This is the part where we have a dance party.

 

[MayriyaNoori]

You actually pushed us to 4600. Be proud.

I do what I can for the People.

[drosophila]

My 4-mage party looks incredible prouncing around the Western Approach. The damage they deal with the lyrium-infused staves is incredible too. 

[Miss This or That]

If I'm wrong and there is more to it, I'll be the first to apologize. But as of now there is nothing to suggest Solas was preventing something worse or some other altruistic motive. He says "The People need me", but that could mean any number of things, many of which bad. 

 

I didn't answer because both your scenarios do not match Solas', as far as we know. So it is not an equivalent scenario.

 

I think this depends very much about which side we are looking at. If you look at Solas, his people need him. He already made clear that neither Thedas nor the current elves are 'his people', so he's probably only trying to do what's good and right for his own people, those that he connects with. (Which I cannot judge him for, dude woke up only recently and truly doesn't see this world as anything more than a doomed future, kind of how the Inquisitor and Dorian saw the future that Alexius shaped.) I think one of Solas' biggest flaws is, yes, his pride and the inability to see that modern Thedas is worth saving all the same. He even comes close to throwing everything overboard for a romanced Lavellan. "She's real which means everyone could be real. it changes everything, but it can't." The fact is, even if Solas might have bad intentions for the player character and modern Thedas, he still cares. It's a major character flaw, but it makes him utterly interesting. Solas cares, which can't be because it very much interfers with his plans. A romanced Lavellan is just the icing on the cake that makes him really question his own intentions.

[midnight tea]

If I'm wrong and there is more to it, I'll be the first to apologize. But as of now there is nothing to suggest Solas was preventing something worse or some other altruistic motive. He says "The People need me", but that could mean any number of things, many of which bad. 

 

And many of which is good - as well as many that are hard to categorize. You simply assume that it has to be bad, instead of myriad of other possible options, neither of them as simple as saying "he's innocent" or something like it.

 

 

I didn't answer because both your scenarios do not match Solas', as far as we know. So it is not an equivalent scenario.

 

It being "equivalent scenario" doesn't matter. It is a pretty real possibility for Inquisitor, whether it matches what Solas did or not. There's a possibility you're going to have to answer it anyway - if not here, then maybe while playing the DLC, if you'd choose to play it. Or maybe in DA4, when Inquisitor's legacy may be distorted by time, lack of information or perhaps maybe even active propaganda. Or what they did would be exploited by someone else.