I.. I absolutely love the Crestwood scene. The animation, music, voice acting, the overall atmosphere... beautiful, just beautiful. I usually make a save and replay it several times in a row, picking different dialogue options.
This time I replayed it to see the new outfit in action. The mighty butt grab had clipping issues.
What was clipping? I know a bunch of the outfits have gloves and I wondered how that might work.
I remember them in DAA, but not in DAO. Too busy being creeped out by Hespith.
I remember noticing them all over the place and being creeped out. I think there's even one int eh Tower of Ishal? It looked like the wings and "hat", for lack of a better term, were placed on them by darkspawn, rather than being part of the original statue. I didn't know the statue was supposed to be of Maferath, though. Hmmm, indeed.
What was clipping? I know a bunch of the outfits have gloves and I wondered how that might work.
His hand clips through that metal thingy on her hip.
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On Maferath's Statues: Okay, yeah, that's weird. According to most of the information we have, the darkspawn slowly rose up in between dwarven thaigs, raiding. Presumably they were focusing on getting as many dwarven women as possible to bolster their numbers. Over the course of fifteen years, the majority of the Dwarven Empire lay in ruins, with Orzammar, Kal'Sharok, and I think Gundaar and one or two other thaigs sealed off and surviving, just barely. This is all many years before Andraste or Maferath were born, so the statues' presence doesn't make much sense. Maferath never really dealt with darkspawn. Maybe Urthemiel has a sense of humor, maybe it's a reused art asset, making the darkspawn are making a mockery of Andrastianism like they made a mockery of Cailan's body at Ostagar. Really good catch, though. 
For Solas and Fen'harel: I'm a fan of the Lone Wolf theory. While Mythal proves that they can hop between bodies, hers is a special case of dying and ending up with a human body instead of an ancient elf immortal one. Hence, the periodic body-hopping. It's possible that the gods are just spirit-elf combos, but from Geldauran's little speech in Jaws it seems more likely that they're just elves that managed to game the system of magic itself to achieve divine power and rule over their kin.
The place where they meet: It does have a statue representing Mythal and one representing Solas on the Eluvian. But that's a common motif in Arlathan architecture. Actually, just flat out Fen'harel is a common motif in Arlathan architecture, with the Kirkwall Freedom sign that seems to be associated with him being the gravestone marker as well. (Interesting that ancient elves seemed to bury their dead, Dalish like, rather than incinerate them. Did they not have a problem with hostile spirits possessing corpses, or did they just figure they could handle it?)
Regardless, LadyInsanity went to freecam and discovered that they're in a section of the Crossroads, but since they're both gods, the irritating mist is gone and the place is sunlit. It's possible that they just put a similar location in the same worldspace to save time and energy, like Mythal's Fade hang-out and the one from Here Lies the Abyss. *shrug*
I use pretty similar rationale to Frank. I'm actually starting to consider sacrificing Hawke more often, because Loghain or Stroud or Alistair heading back to Weisshaupt to report on what happened? That makes perfect sense. Hawke, when Hawke has just finished saying how Corypheus is his responsibility and wants nothing to do with the Wardens? That's...eh...no. 
But Fenris. 
That was sort of helpful.
Though I'm on Frou Frou - Let Go now
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It's more positive, at least.
Maybe there is hope for the feels after all!
....temporarily.
Hadn't heard of that artist before and I like how she sounds! I'll make sure to listen to Details while doing experiments over the weekend!
And now... let's punch you in the feels:
I'm currently listening to a long Beatles playlist. This works.
His hand clips through that metal thingy on her hip.
Bah. And yet, still not as bad as -
Google, you're adorable.
Did you mean: solas clapping gif
Hadn't heard of that artist before and I like how she sounds! I'll make sure to listen to Details while doing experiments over the weekend!
That's because Frou Frou is actually Imogen Heap, her more notable alias and artist title. She only released one album as "Frou Frou" if I'm remembering her discography clearly. Great artist indeed.
I have a question about Solas and wondered if there was an answer, or at least some theories on it. Is Solas to Fen'harel what Flemeth is to Mythal? By that I mean, is Solas literally, physically and wholly Fen'harel or was Solas another individual elf from another time who somehow became one with Fen'harel? If it is the latter I would be really interested to know his backstory, before Fen'harel. I lean towards him being a separate individual originally. But it is confusing as he talks about the past from two different perspectives, sometimes from the perspective of experience and other times from learning.
I also wonder about the spot him and Flemeth met at the end. The statues beside the eluvian, it almost seems romantic. Like it was "their" place, together.
This is something we discuss a lot around here. Personally I'm firmly on Team Lone Wolf - Solas is Fen'Harel, no body jumping involved.
First: there is no way that BW would give us a romance in which we were sleeping with a possessed person without knowing it. They gave us Anders but it was very clear from the start he was possessed. The poopstorm over Blackwall not really being Blackwall was bad enough - what would it be like if they gave us an LI who really, really wasn't who he said he was and had murky consent issues into the bargin (fun fact: in the TV show Supernatual this is why Ruby No2 was shown to be possessing a body the second it had flatlined - the writers were aware of the issues involving Sam sleeping with a demon and its unconsenting human host and deliberatly avoided this trope. It's one of the few things I actually like about SPN).
Second: the whole idea of 'Fen'Harel is really TEH EVILS and it was the Solas part that loved Lavellan' BOOOOOOOOOOOOORING (sorry, been playing Skyrim and now channelling Shegorath in my way of speaking). What makes Solas a fastinating character is that every experience in his long, long life has led him to the point where he is the man he is now. The experiences he speaks about are his experiences. They weren't gained second hand.
Third: Mythal's senario is implied to be completely unprecedented. The ancient elves were immortal (but not invulnerable) and Mythal was killed. But part of her soul hung on long enough and strongly enough to possess a human woman, and then continue to possess her decendents (something that was considered a great honour, given the way Yavana shows envy towards Morrigan being the favourite). If every elf was doing this it dimishes how completely awesome Mythal was for being able to hang on like this.
That's because that artist is actually Imogen Heap. She only released one album as "Frou Frou" if I'm remembering her discography clearly. Great artist indeed.
Right, Frou Frou was Imogen Heap and Guy Sigsworth and they only had the one album together, plus a few songs.
I use pretty similar rationale to Frank. I'm actually starting to consider sacrificing Hawke more often, because Loghain or Stroud or Alistair heading back to Weisshaupt to report on what happened? That makes perfect sense. Hawke, when Hawke has just finished saying how Corypheus is his responsibility and wants nothing to do with the Wardens? That's...eh...no.
But Fenris.
I am considering this for my canon playthrough. All our hopes are pinned on this being the abyss Flemythal told us to leap in to...
You'd never think the words "will likely" could be so evil, but Bioware managed. lol
But yeah, if Hawke really doesn't survive the Fade, redoing the whole game and however many games afterward is required before the plot point comes up again, cus Fenris. lol
But Fenris.
Sorry Fenris, you're going to be alone until your mage GF punches her way out of the Fade.
I can't kill Alistair.
Completely off-topic: has anyone had trouble with playing with mods and the inventory crashing?
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I remember noticing them all over the place and being creeped out. I think there's even one int eh Tower of Ishal? It looked like the wings and "hat", for lack of a better term, were placed on them by darkspawn, rather than being part of the original statue. I didn't know the statue was supposed to be of Maferath, though. Hmmm, indeed.
You mean those creepy ones the Darkspawn spread around? I think in Return To Ostagar there's some there too. Everywhere they are you find that winged statue. Gives me the creeps!
Oh god, I hit the clapping gif search to see what it gave me and this was one of the results.
And I am gone.
Damn, Dorian and Solas look good.
Its not automatically irresponsible to write a character having a mental illness. Like any other character trait, it can be done well or poorly.
And I am giving it due consideration. It would be a clever way to have one person be thought of as two people thousands of years later b/c legends forget/distort details. Please stop acting like I am somehow mocking or being insensitive to people with mental illness b/c I like the idea of a character in a video game actually having one.
What I said was: "Mental illness is not something that responsible writers use to add interest to a character." There is nothing there that connotes that I was making a blanket assertion.
And you are acting irresponsible, sorry. You did that when you said "schizophrenia" would be "cool."
Oh god, I hit the clapping gif search to see what it gave me and this was one of the results.
And I am gone.
This is great. lol
Though honestly, every time I see a Dragon Age gif with dancing, I feel Fenris should be in the background somewhere, either participating, or with one of those loudspeaker cone things, yelling at everyone to get the choreography right. XD
What I said was: "Mental illness is not something that responsible writers use to add interest to a character." There is nothing there that connotes that I was making a blanket assertion.
And you are acting irresponsible, sorry. You did that when you said "schizophrenia" would be "cool."
I think this should be taken to PMs.
On Maferath's Statues: Okay, yeah, that's weird. According to most of the information we have, the darkspawn slowly rose up in between dwarven thaigs, raiding. Presumably they were focusing on getting as many dwarven women as possible to bolster their numbers. Over the course of fifteen years, the majority of the Dwarven Empire lay in ruins, with Orzammar, Kal'Sharok, and I think Gundaar and one or two other thaigs sealed off and surviving, just barely. This is all many years before Andraste or Maferath were born, so the statues' presence doesn't make much sense. Maferath never really dealt with darkspawn. Maybe Urthemiel has a sense of humor, maybe it's a reused art asset, making the darkspawn are making a mockery of Andrastianism like they made a mockery of Cailan's body at Ostagar. Really good catch, though.
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At first I thought they were statues of Elgar'nan. I don't remember why, but I know I had a reason for it. Maybe just the fact that a skull is used to represent him and it looks a tiny bit like that thing on that statue's head.
It is possible that it's a reused art asset.
It might be possible, that the darkspawn needed a monument of their god for woshipping purposes and since they probably lack sculptor-darkspawn, they had to repurpose statues they found in Thedas, making them look like the god/thing they worship. Wasn't there some lore about praying darkspawn? If they pray, they must have someone to pray to. The old gods? Maybe. Someone else? Also possible.
Or.. it might just be a design choice to make the dead trenches creepier. But... there is no reason for those statues to be casually lying around in the deep roads.
Ah, I just remembered. One statue is in the deserted building in Denerim. The room is also equipped with things that look a little like eluvians and statues of other elven gods.
Edit: Have a sexy Solas for ToP:
This is great. lol
Though honestly, everytime I see a Dragon Age gif with dancing, I feel Fenris should be int eh background somewhere, either participating, or with one of those loudspeaker cone things, yelling at everyone to get the choreography right. XD
That gif will never cease to be awesome. XD
Edit: Have a sexy Solas for ToP:
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I'm quite positive I am literally dying here.
My sides!
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I can't stop staring at Lavellan's butt in this new outfit.
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I know, right?? I've been doing the same thing!
Sorry Fenris, you're going to be alone until your mage GF punches her way out of the Fade.
I can't kill Alistair.
The only time I ever struggle with the choice in the fade is if Loghain is my warden. He's been looking for an honourable death - a potentially sacrificial death - for very, very long time, knowing that he can't fully redeem himself for his actions, but wants to try. After my warden denied him that at Denerim (she was pretty practical, frowned upon useless self-sacrifice, 'better alive than dead', etc.), I honestly feel bad denying a good end to him again. How much has he got to live for? He's separated from his daughter (his remaining family), his friends and loved ones are dead, and he threw out the one thing he really cared about (Ferelden) when he attempted to exile the wardens. Being a warden works well as some kind of penance, but it's hardly a comfortable existence when you nearly tried to kill them all.
Although being left to fight a nightmare demon in the fade sounds so much messier than dealing the final blow to the archdemon.
But otherwise, Alistair always lives, and Stroud always dies.
One of the most Solavellan songs, in my opinion, is still One Republic's Come Home - especially now that we know that Trespasser plays two years after the events of Inquisition. I'm listening to it and it is doing nothing good for the feels. I want to draw the sadness away. Buuut I need to play Inquisition some more.
There's a difference between excusing them and giving them a chance to redeem themselves. The Grey Wardens are a faction, as such, just because part of that faction displayed an enormous lack of foresight and judgement, it doesn't mean all of them were to blame. Leaders also have to take responsibility for the actions of their subordinates, even when dealing with such extreme and unprecedented situations. Also, a lot of Wardens can be persuaded to see reason when it matters most during Here lies the Abyss.
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Remember we disabled the nightmare demon that was used by Corypheus like a broadcasting station to amplify the range and effects of his "calling". It's also a fact that the Grey Wardens are now made aware that this "calling" is false. They weren't "controlled" by Corypheus but rather acted out of desperation and fear based on a lie. Quite literally a "living nightmare". This new awareness therefore strengthens their resolve while bringing much needed perspective to their future actions.
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I see what you mean, but I talked about excusing the GW entirely in the first line, not the actual decision.
It's just something I noticed that exists in the forum and I'm kinda confused by that
As for Nightmare, while I get what you are saying about the Nightmare demon no longer amplifying Corypheus' calling, but he can still affect GWs. From what I (think I) know from the lore, the imprisoned Corypheus affected the GWs' minds, they sometimes forgot what they were doing when were taken away from him, when he was "asleep" he still had power over GWs, less, but enough to help him the end escape from his prison. What I'm trying to say is that he can still affect GWs in close proximity to him.
Anyhow, as said, I had no issue with the choice itself, more with the mentality behind it.
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