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[MayriyaNoori]

I am the worst person at reading into lyrics and poetry( like, they have to be stupid obvious for me to get.) so I am an instrumental feels music.

 

Behold my current Solavellan feelz song.

 

 

It's been this all week.

 

[Avejajed]

I think this should be taken to PMs.

 

The whole conversation is conjecture anyway. Based on opinions only, on characters in a game that aren't even fully realized. There is a time and a place to discuss the morality of using mental illness in art, literature, games, books, whatever, but that place is not here and the time is not now. 

 

Way more pressing issues to fight about anyway.

[Caddius]

I see what you mean, but I talked about excusing the GW entirely in the first line, not the actual decision.

It's just something I noticed that exists in the forum and I'm kinda confused by that

 

As for Nightmare, while I get what you are saying about the Nightmare demon no longer amplifying Corypheus' calling, but he can still affect GWs. From what I (think I) know from the lore, the imprisoned Corypheus affected the GWs' minds, they sometimes forgot what they were doing when were taken away from him, when he was "asleep" he still had power over GWs, less, but enough to help him the end escape from his prison. What I'm trying to say is that he can still affect GWs in close proximity to him.

 

Anyhow, as said, I had no issue with the choice itself, more with the mentality behind it.

The Grey Wardens being affected by Corypheus seems kinda inconsistent.

Really creepy for the most part in Legacy. Larius going insane, Janeka being driven to break him out, twisting the Warden guardians in his sleep, that kind of thing. But it seems some are more affected than others.

ANDERS: *mad jabbering, gets clubbed into sweet unconsciousness by the party*

HAWKE: ...So...you feeling okay, bro?

CARVER: ...Eh, I have a headache? *shrug* I'm not sure what his issue is.

 

I will say that the sacrificing Wardens for demons idea? Really dumb. 

Binding demons to act as guardians for Corypheus's prison, because he can affect Wardens?

Actually pretty damn clever. *grudging respect*

 

Do we ever learn if the Wardens aiding in Corypheus's ritual are actually controlled by him, or were some volunteers? Were they all wearing mage robes? 

[Cee]

I am the worst person at reading into lyrics and poetry( like, they have to be stupid obvious for me to get.) so I am an instrumental feels music.

 

Behold my current Solavellan feelz song.

 

 

It's been this all week.

 

 

That's a pretty version of that song.

 

We could always return to Backstreet Boys.

 

 

(I think I've gotten them out of my system again for a while).

[Eurowande]

Hello guys i fainally decide to jump right in. 

i was reading the thread for 2 days and i want to say a lot of things so if this post get too long im sorry.

Wow i dont even know from where to begin hahaha...

So i love Solas so much and talk about his so much that my BF actually got jealous ( i cant make him play the games so no sympathy from him )

I cant way for the DLC its 4 days for you but it will be much longer for me as i can not buy it atm ( if i knew its coming so fast i was going to try and finally find my self a jub last 2 months instead of playing DA:I )

Im terible at choosing romance option in DA. I romaced Alistair and he dump me cuz i made him king ( i fix this late ofc but still ...) At D2 i was like lol Anders was so fun in awakening so i go for him and he fcked up everything ( and bcz i still love him i let him go and run with him, thats before i found Fenris)

At DA3 ( after waiting months to play it and not spoiling myself , even i dont know how i resisted) i was like ok i love the elves but my first DA 1 char was elf and it go poorly with my love life, so i decide to choose a human. Now you can imagin my reaction when i found out i cant romance Solas, i was torn apart. I almost started a new game but i waited so long to play so i go for Cullen and imgine its Solas. So my 3rd choise got to be elven God who seem to always fck up things.

I swear if there is DA 4 im not romancing anyone, im afraid what my choice will be this time.

Trespasser makes me afraid i so dont want to get more heartbroken , but i had the bad feeling this just might happen.

 

' I suspect you have question' 

DAMN RIGHT I HAVE QUESTION and ill ask all of them just give me a min to decide what io want to do first - to kiss you or to slap you or both , and in what order.

Why you guys write sad fics , damn you all im crying the whole day.

[Jayla]

Anyhow, as said, I had no issue with the choice itself, more with the mentality behind it.

 

I take small issue with the choice. I didn't want them to join the Inquisition, but I didn't want to banish them from Ferelden either. I understood why they did what they did so I didn't think they deserved banishment, but at the same time they are still a risk, and not one I put on par with the Mages (although they still are, I feel they're a more controlled risk).

 

My choice with the Wardens usually ends up resulting from who I end up sacrificing, if I sacrifice the Warden then they get banished, if Hawke then I keep them. As I usually have Stroud as my Warden, the poor things usually end up banished. xD

[Illyria]

The Grey Wardens being affected by Corypheus seems kinda inconsistent.

Really creepy for the most part in Legacy. Larius going insane, Janeka being driven to break him out, twisting the Warden guardians in his sleep, that kind of thing.

ANDERS: *mad jabbering, gets clubbed into sweet unconsciousness by the party*

HAWKE: ...So...you feeling okay, bro?

CARVER: ...Eh, I have a headache? *shrug* I'm not sure what his issue is.

 

I will say that the sacrificing Wardens for demons idea? Really dumb. 

Binding demons to act as guardians for Corypheus's prison, because he can affect Wardens?

Actually pretty damn clever. *grudging respect*

 

There's a theory floating around tumblr that Cory can't affect Carver (or Bethany) due to the whole Hawke blood thing.

[MayriyaNoori]

That's a pretty version of that song.

 

We could always return to Backstreet Boys.

 

 

(I think I've gotten them out of my system again for a while).

That, or we could explore other musical options from that era.

 

Spoiler

[Avejajed]

Hello guys i fainally decide to jump right in. 

i was reading the thread for 2 days and i want to say a lot of things so if this post get too long im sorry.

Wow i dont even know from where to begin hahaha...

So i love Solas so much and talk about his so much that my BF actually got jealous ( i cant make him play the games so no sympathy from him )

I cant way for the DLC its 4 days for you but it will be much longer for me as i can not buy it atm ( if i knew its coming so fast i was going to try and finally find my self a jub last 2 months instead of playing DA:I )

Im terible at choosing romance option in DA. I romaced Alistair and he dump me cuz i made him king ( i fix this late ofc but still ...) At D2 i was like lol Anders was so fun in awakening so i go for him and he fcked up everything ( and bcz i still love him i let him go and run with him, thats before i found Fenris)

At DA3 ( after waiting months to play it and not spoiling myself , even i dont know how i resisted) i was like ok i love the elves but my first DA 1 char was elf and it go poorly with my love life, so i decide to choose a human. Now you can imagin my reaction when i found out i cant romance Solas, i was torn apart. I almost started a new game but i waited so long to play so i go for Cullen and imgine its Solas. So my 3rd choise got to be elven God who seem to always fck up things.

I swear if there is DA 4 im not romancing anyone, im afraid what my choice will be this time.

Trespasser makes me afraid i so dont want to get more heartbroken , but i had the bad feeling this just might happen.

 

' I suspect you have question' 

DAMN RIGHT I HAVE QUESTION and ill ask all of them just give me a min to decide what io want to do first - to kiss you or to slap you or both , and in what order.

Why you guys write sad fics , damn you all im crying the whole day.

 

I like you and all of what you say.

[Giton]

You know what? That's fine. I didn't think this discussion was to the point of "take your convo to PM," but whatever. It's dropped. But I certainly don't need to be told how and when to converse.

 

I do think that it is important to call these things out. I just do. 

 

But sure. More important things. 

 

Solas.

[nikkylee]

That, or we could explore other musical options from that era.

 

Spoiler

 

One of my local stations does boy band weekends. I've had these guys on the radio all day. 

I don't even care that my co-workers are giving me side-eyes. 

[MayriyaNoori]

Hello guys i fainally decide to jump right in. 

i was reading the thread for 2 days and i want to say a lot of things so if this post get too long im sorry.

Wow i dont even know from where to begin hahaha...

So i love Solas so much and talk about his so much that my BF actually got jealous ( i cant make him play the games so no sympathy from him )

I cant way for the DLC its 4 days for you but it will be much longer for me as i can not buy it atm ( if i knew its coming so fast i was going to try and finally find my self a jub last 2 months instead of playing DA:I )

Im terible at choosing romance option in DA. I romaced Alistair and he dump me cuz i made him king ( i fix this late ofc but still ...) At D2 i was like lol Anders was so fun in awakening so i go for him and he fcked up everything ( and bcz i still love him i let him go and run with him, thats before i found Fenris)

At DA3 ( after waiting months to play it and not spoiling myself , even i dont know how i resisted) i was like ok i love the elves but my first DA 1 char was elf and it go poorly with my love life, so i decide to choose a human. Now you can imagin my reaction when i found out i cant romance Solas, i was torn apart. I almost started a new game but i waited so long to play so i go for Cullen and imgine its Solas. So my 3rd choise got to be elven God who seem to always fck up things.

I swear if there is DA 4 im not romancing anyone, im afraid what my choice will be this time.

Trespasser makes me afraid i so dont want to get more heartbroken , but i had the bad feeling this just might happen.

 

' I suspect you have question' 

DAMN RIGHT I HAVE QUESTION and ill ask all of them just give me a min to decide what io want to do first - to kiss you or to slap you or both , and in what order.

Why you guys write sad fics , damn you all im crying the whole day.

You my friend have written the frustrated feelz of many of the forum thread.

 

Bravo.

[Caddius]

There's a theory floating around tumblr that Cory can't affect Carver (or Bethany) due to the whole Hawke blood thing.

That would make sense, actually.

[Meer]

The whole conversation is conjecture anyway. Based on opinions only, on characters in a game that aren't even fully realized. There is a time and a place to discuss the morality of using mental illness in art, literature, games, books, whatever, but that place is not here and the time is not now. 

 

Way more pressing issues to fight about anyway.

 

There is nothing wrong with taking a principled stance on such things. There should not be a difference of opinion when it comes to the utilization of mental illness in art. The end-all-be-all on the subject that sprinkling it on top of a character as some kind of intrigue seasoning is wrong. Portraying mental illness or giving people with them representation is wonderful--but this must be done with respect and sensitivity, not as some kind of "look how awesome this is, they've got an illness!" sparkle gel smeared on the surface of whichever character. It's not only weak writing, it can be dreadfully offensive.

 

And the last thing I'll say on the subject? This is an important issue, and a pressing one, and I think many people living with a mental illness (and those who've loved ones doing the same) would say so.

[drosophila]

That, or we could explore other musical options from that era.

Spoiler

You asked for it.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube....h?v=fHPnGqXXUmI

[Cee]

That, or we could explore other musical options from that era.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Maybe something a little more optimistic?

 

 

Or not:

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Eurowande]

The thing im afraid of the most is the we will have to fight Solas ( i dont really see it comming but small part of me just do want to let me be) , so if this fck happen ill let him kill my char and imagine this is the end of the DLC .

[Avejajed]

There is nothing wrong with taking a principled stance on such things. There should not be a difference of opinion when it comes to the utilization of mental illness in art. The end-all-be-all on the subject that sprinkling it on top of a character as some kind of intrigue seasoning is wrong. Portraying mental illness or giving people with them representation is wonderful--but this must be done with respect and sensitivity, not as some kind of "look how awesome this is, they've got an illness!" sparkle gel smeared on the surface of whichever character. It's not only weak writing, it can be dreadfully offensive.

And the last thing I'll say on the subject? This is an important issue, and a pressing one, and I think many people living with a mental illness (and those who've loved ones with them) would say so.

I don't think I or anyone was saying that Solas was more important than the discussion about mental illness. My suggestion was that maybe it was better had in a more appropriate venue. Sure, the conversation is important, but just because someone say it would be cool to see a character with a mental illness doesn't mean they suggested it not be done in a both serious and respectful way.

Sometimes, and I'm guilty of it, we can't look past being offended long enough to see what the real issues are anyway.

Do what you want, I'm not the moderator. I just think emotions are way too high to have this conversation respectfully.

[NightSymphony]

Random thought: I could totally see my Lavellan rocking these shoes!

http://www.pendragon...sh-booties.html

[Shari'El]

The Grey Wardens being affected by Corypheus seems kinda inconsistent.

Really creepy for the most part in Legacy. Larius going insane, Janeka being driven to break him out, twisting the Warden guardians in his sleep, that kind of thing. But it seems some are more affected than others.

ANDERS: *mad jabbering, gets clubbed into sweet unconsciousness by the party*

HAWKE: ...So...you feeling okay, bro?

CARVER: ...Eh, I have a headache? *shrug* I'm not sure what his issue is.

 

I will say that the sacrificing Wardens for demons idea? Really dumb. 

Binding demons to act as guardians for Corypheus's prison, because he can affect Wardens?

Actually pretty damn clever. *grudging respect*

 

Do we ever learn if the Wardens aiding in Corypheus's ritual are actually controlled by him, or were some volunteers? Were they all wearing mage robes? 

 

Mmm

I don't recall them wearing mage robes, I did the quest two days ago...

But I do recall the memory showing them all.. red glowy.. and stuff..

 

I take small issue with the choice. I didn't want them to join the Inquisition, but I didn't want to banish them from Ferelden either. I understood why they did what they did so I didn't think they deserved banishment, but at the same time they are still a risk, and not one I put on par with the Mages (although they still are, I feel they're a more controlled risk).

 

My choice with the Wardens usually ends up resulting from who I end up sacrificing, if I sacrifice the Warden then they get banished, if Hawke then I keep them. As I usually have Stroud as my Warden, the poor things usually end up banished. xD

 

I see what you mean, but I think there are reasons that we can either banish or take them under and nothing else.

Their actions require some sort of response, so you either banish them from Orlais or you decide to take them under.

I think not taking a stance is not an option because (besides making the Inquisition look bad), letting them run free in Orlais might cause an uproar, there is no stopping them from acting stupid again. No one guarantees they'll act stupid, but the citizens of Orlais wouldn't really care (they'll be pissed off at the possibility something might happen) unless you can guarantee them they have protection.

That's what I think at least, you can't take the middle ground here, it gives the Wardens too much freedom.

[Cee]

Random thought: I could totally see my Lavellan rocking these shoes!

http://www.pendragon...sh-booties.html

 

Those are very, very elfy.

[Miss This or That]

Those are very, very elfy.

 

So elfy, Sera would disapprove.