LOL I've been PMing and sticking to the Spoiler Group since I joined. And I'm the one who warned people where not to go so they don't get spoiled.
Thanks for that!
Don't mean to imply anything against you personally. I'm just sitting around like a nervous cat ready to hiss at anyone who tries to spill spoilers at the thread. I think I don't get angry easily, but the leaks from the dataminers really p*ssed me off.
I think people are worried the bosses will be bad. Even a few level 27 players who didn't prepare had a heck of a time with Hakkon.
Hakkon was fine for me at 27. The overall difficulty felt decent. The Descent was no challenge at all all the way through, but the boss knocked my level 27 team on our butts twice before I swapped Dorian in and left Cole out and we squeaked by because I refused to give in after running out of potions while the boss had a sliver of health left. So she went on a desperate and stabby push to finish.
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Thanks for that!
Don't mean to imply anything against you personally. I'm just sitting around like a nervous cat ready to hiss at anyone who tries to spill spoilers at the thread. I think I don't get angry easily, but the leaks from the dataminers really p*ssed me off.
No problem!
I understand and my posts to help warn people were last night so you might have missed them.
Hakkon was fine for me at 27. The overall difficulty felt decent. The Descent was no challenge at all all the way through, but the boss knocked my level 27 team on our butts twice before I swapped Dorian in and left Cole out and we squeaked by because I refused to give in after running out of potions while the boss had a sliver of health left. So she went on a desperate and stabby push to finish.
That'd be cool to talk about. I'd be interested in that, but now I don't know what to say without people crawling out of the woodwork to criticize me*. xD
PS: That's a joke please don't bite me my backside can take only so much hiding!
Caddius mentioned woodland creatures just recently... your fears seem valid.
I finally caught up (this thread is moving so fast again) and got the feeling I missed quite a bit of drama here? Ah.
Caddius mentioned woodland creatures just recently... your fears seem valid.
I finally caught up (this thread is moving so fast again) and got the feeling I missed quite a bit of drama here? Ah.
Ooh la la!
A little bit, nothing this thread hasn't seen before really. x)
I dunno... blasted morality issues always. One of the reasons this thread felt so boring after a while.
When's the time and where's the place? I wanna go.
Not discuss mental illness in real life people here, alright. But why not speak about it in terms of video game realizations and what ifs? Never thought about Solas's behavior (or the perception thereof) as being the result of mental disturbances before. Seems an interesting idea to play with now that it's occurred to me... not claiming I think the authors intended it. Just that hypothetical idea of how it might all fit together... or not. Like we tried to explain the Blight as a form of cancer triggered by fungal infestation.
I didn't catch the whole conversation but a convincing, believable, realistic representation of mental illness in a video game character would be a splendid piece of art in my eyes.
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I don't think that's the case. I think that the larger point is that change is difficult and complex and revolutions don't always work or their potential is squandered (or it takes a while to change).
But... that doesn' really disprove what I said about how the DA games are mostly about the player character "restoring order" by saving oppressive systems from crumbling (Chantry, Circles, monarchies, even Kirkwall's oligarchy) and returning power to the hands of the oppressive elite (nobles, clergy, privileged humans, etc). That the best we can do is maybe shift management over to more liberal leader of an oppressive system (Bhelen is kinder to casteless than Harrowmont, Alistair is better to city elves than Anora, Leliana and Cassandra are better Divines to mages than Vivienne, etc), and hope s/he treats the oppressed (casteless, mages, city elves, etc) better than the previous one/s.
I mean, characters who actively try to change things either are villains or are portrayed as destructively misguided for even attempting (Loghain for Ferelden DAO, Howe for the Couslands in DAO, the Arishok to Kirkwall in DA2 Act 2, Anders to the mage/Templar conflict in DA2 Act 3, Corypheus in DAI and Solas implied for future games), while characters who reactively try to undo the changes and restore the status quo (even one admitted to be inherently oppressive and corrupt like the Chantry, Circles, Kirkwall nobility, Orlesian Empire, etc) are the "good guys." (Which, incidentally, is always the side the player character is on.)
I just find it off.
me:
I set up Briala as the puppet-figure behind Gaspard to further the enfranchisement of elves and the lower classes, all while maintaining the veneer of the status quo so that the reactionaries wouldn't have a target. *shrug* 
And it's possible for Hawke to side with Anders and agree with him that his plan was worth it. 
All that being said, if there is one time it'd be fun to overthrow the status quo and take up the cause of a revolutionary, it'd be in the Tevinter Imperium. Now that's an old enough institution that I can see either an attempt at reform by mages like Dorian happening, or even an outright anti-Magisterium revolt.
Caddius mentioned woodland creatures just recently... your fears seem valid.
I finally caught up (this thread is moving so fast again) and got the feeling I missed quite a bit of drama here? Ah.
Not really. People disagreed politely. Other people asked them to stop "fighting". I guess that counts as drama here.
me:
What's the point of leveling up when the story's going to end?
Ugh god, this makes me depressed.
I know I'm going to be bawling by the end, regardless of Solas, I'm just soooo bad with endings.
I meant what's the point of increasing the level cap and leveling up beyond 27. They probbaly made the boss reasonable to fight if your level is near cap.
Edit: Top Solas. What the hell is this pose? Image from Solas-an.
That superman pose, oh god, I cried a little from laughter XD
I don't watch Supernatural but that gif is the first thing to make me want to watch it... Just to see what they're gaping at. xD
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Ugh god, this makes me depressed.
I know I'm going to be bawling by the end, regardless of Solas, I'm just soooo bad with endings.
Same here. Happy or sad, I hate it when the stories I love end. It hurts every time.
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Not planned either! Zevran and Fenris just became favorites. Solas... there was just something about him. Oh and Zevran does show up once you do the first main quest after Lothering, so it's not too delayed and they have a mod to make him show up right away lol and I got him to propose to me!
Are you aware of the spoilers?
Ah, on my first playthrough I went to Redcliffe first and then went to the Circle to free Connor, so I basically did two main quests by the time I met Zevran. (And since I got to see Alistair's home and secret longing for love and family, I fell for him by the time Zevran entered the picture.)
If it helps, Zevran has been my romance of choice every other playthrough. 
I don't like playing a male for DAO so Morrigan is out, and I was never attracted to Leliana, so that leaves Alistair and Zevran. While my City Elf fell for Alistair, my Mage Elf didn't (since she couldn't like a human Templar), nor my Dalish Elf (she could only relate to another elf), nor my Dwarf Commoner (who I imagine saw humans but never elves from Orzammar, and finds them strangely attractive and exotic). So while Alistair won the main girl, Zevran won every other.
And I agree about there just being something about Solas.
Nooo! No spoilers! *hides eyes*
Also: new patch and I hear way more banter than I did before.
Really?! I hope so.
I just got to Skyhold in my "perfectionist playthrough" (once I got the wardrobe, I went back 10 hours so I could enjoy all the friendship and romance cutscenes in style, because I'm just that vain 
), and it'd be really nice to know the companions talk more. The lack of party banter was really dampening my spirits. 
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Ah, on my first playthrough I went to Redcliffe first and then went to the Circle to free Connor, so I basically did two main quests by the time I met Zevran. (And since I got to see Alistair's home and secret longing for love and family, I fell for him by the time Zevran entered the picture.)
If it helps, Zevran has been my romance of choice every other playthrough.
And I agree about there just being something about Solas.
Nooo! No spoilers! *hides eyes*
Really?! I hope so.
I just got to Skyhold in my "perfectionist playthrough" (once I got the wardrobe, I went back 10 hours so I could enjoy all the friendship and romance cutscenes in style, because I'm just that vain
I always had trouble with Alistair. He put moves on me when I thought I was just being friendly lol and asked me to choose between him and Zevran and we never even kissed!
Then avoid Tumblr, Twitter and Reddit until then.
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I always had trouble with Alistair. He put moves on me when I thought I was just being friendly lol and asked me to choose between him and Zevran and we never even kissed!
Then avoid Tumblr, Twitter and Reddit until then.
Heh, I had that trouble with Leliana (apparently asking her if Marjolaine meant a lot to her after her personal quest made her think you were interested in her romantically), but thankfully not Alistair. Then again, I guess I'd said some friendly things intending to romance him, so if I'd changed my mind and went after Zevran instead, I'd be commiserating with you about how deluded and clingy Alistair is about this one-sided imaginary relationship.
Haha, oh, more than that, I'm avoiding all but this thread until then. (I was in the DAO forum until people started giving away Descent spoilers, and I was like "Nope! Nope! Nope!" *does girly run out of forum like an elf through a meadow*)
Heh, I had that trouble with Leliana (apparently asking her if Marjolaine meant a lot to her after her personal quest made her think you were interested in her romantically), but thankfully not Alistair. Then again, I guess I'd said some friendly things intending to romance him, so if I'd changed my mind and went after Zevran instead, I'd be commiserating with you about how deluded and clingy Alistair is about this one-sided imaginary relationship.
Haha, oh, more than that, I'm avoiding all but this thread until then. (I was in the DAO forum until people started giving away Descent spoilers, and I was like "Nope! Nope! Nope!" *does girly run out of forum like an elf through a meadow*)
Dunno if it's relevant, but I remember playing it and getting quite high approval with him quickly and despite not starting a romance with him yet, I could smooch him. Then it starts properly and he kisses my Warden, and then says "That wasn't too soon was it?" (or something like that), and I was sitting there going, "Err... We've done this a thousand times (because the player is a perv), why is this time suddenly too soon?" xD
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I just complimented Lelianas shoes. I do that with my real life friends. So annoying. She didn't have to get all whatever about it.
Actually, I'll get into trouble for saying this but I've never really been a big Leliana fan.
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*high-fives*
My best friend is a HUGE Leliana fan (both as a romance and as a character), and is always pressuring me to try to romance her.
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Heh, I had that trouble with Leliana (apparently asking her if Marjolaine meant a lot to her after her personal quest made her think you were interested in her romantically), but thankfully not Alistair. Then again, I guess I'd said some friendly things intending to romance him, so if I'd changed my mind and went after Zevran instead, I'd be commiserating with you about how deluded and clingy Alistair is about this one-sided imaginary relationship.
Haha, oh, more than that, I'm avoiding all but this thread until then. (I was in the DAO forum until people started giving away Descent spoilers, and I was like "Nope! Nope! Nope!" *does girly run out of forum like an elf through a meadow*)
I think that is what turned me off. I had a bad first impression with him.
In DA2 and DAI the romances are more obvious thanks to the heart, but the guessing was funny in DAO and similar to real life. I've yet to have a jealousy in DAI. I even had Anders asking why I chose Fenris though I never flirted with him.
I just complimented Lelianas shoes. I do that with my real life friends. So annoying. She didn't have to get all whatever about it.
Actually, I'll get into trouble for saying this but I've never really been a big Leliana fan.
It surprised me how many people didn't like her. She's one of my favorite DA characters. It was always Morrigan I didn't like, but DAI changed that with her portrayal and growth (especially if you have Kieran).
It surprised me how many people didn't like her. She's one of my favorite DA characters. It was always Morrigan I didn't like, but DAI changed that with her portrayal and growth (especially if you have Kieran).
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Dunno if it's relevant, but I remember playing it and getting quite high approval with him quickly and despite not starting a romance with him yet, I could smooch him. Then it starts properly and he kisses my Warden, and then says "That wasn't too soon was it?" (or something like that), and I was sitting there going, "Err... We've done this a thousand times (because the player is a perv), why is this time suddenly too soon?" xD
Haha! That sounds like fun.
I also got high approval really quickly, although my city elf was still pretty shy around humans after her experience with Vaughan. When he kissed and then asked if it was too soon, I kind of had the opposite reaction. I was sitting there like, "Um... you could have asked that before you grabbed and kissed. 
"
I think that is what turned me off. I had a bad first impression with him.
In DA2 and DAI the romances are more obvious thanks to the heart, but the guessing was funny in DAO and similar to real life. I've yet to have a jealousy in DAI. I even had Anders asking why I chose Fenris though I never flirted with him.
That's fair. 
Yeah, you win some, you lose some. (If memory serves, Alistiar asks what you see in Zevran just as Anders asks what you see in Fenris, even if you don't romance either. I've heard that Anders has a crush on Hawke and comes onto you when you first meet, then gets upset if you reject him, so that's his own jealousy issues right there. Then again, they could just be asking because they don't like/trust the elf in question. *shrug*)
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