I keep thinking this when I see donuts. Or when I had one on Wednesday.
Hope you guys still like art. 
Pulchra Tenebris part 10.
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Beautiful artwork of Solas and Lavellan exploring an elvhen ruin.
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Gorgeous tarot card of Lavellan and the Dread Wolf.
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Solavellan kissing WIP.
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Solavellan speedpaint.
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Adorable Lavellan and Solas.
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And sketch version.
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Lavellan and the Dread Wolf.
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Just get married already. (Solavellan. Slightly NSFW)
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And of course, another "I suspect you have questions." artwork. 
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Crying Solas.
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I love Solas' face in this one. 
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Elves you can kiss. (Zevran, Merrill, Fenris, Sera, and Solas.)
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DAI Boys Group picture.
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Dragon Age doodles. (Modern AU Solas, Lavellan, Fenris, Leliana, and Alistair.)
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Some more DAI companion doodles. (Solas, Cassandra, Varric, and Dorian.)
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your Mind Heart made me cry for hours...
Turn that pain to good purpose in the fight against Corypheus, Inquisitor 
And thanks!
Lots of adorable art. I think yes, we do need these happier and cute art before we go diving into the end.
Turn that pain to good purpose in the fight against Corypheus, Inquisitor
And thanks!
Im just not sure i can deal with this level of sadness this early in the morning , it will make my whole day sad, but i just started reading it so ill finish it. Ill need a lot of hugs after that.
Btw im so glad i oin the forum for the last 2 months i wanted to talk about the game so badly and the only one of my friends that play it hate Solas , so it was meh... I was dying in the inside to talk with someone to tell how i feel about the game so share my theories and so on , and there was no one...
Does it help if I say that I do believe there is a happy ending?
Yes it does, i read few fanfic inspired of Trespasser trailer and most of them last sad. Come on ppl Bioware will most likely give us enough sadness what we need are more happy endings.
Some more art (since the previous post was getting too long.)
Solavellan romance novel cover parody.
Married. (Solavellan)
Solavellan Trespasser DLC prediction. 
Another cute Solavellan comic by lilium-snow.
What if DAI had family drama like in DA2? Lavellan crying and being comforted by her brother after the break up with Solas.
(And brother Lavellan doesn't look happy...)
I see it a bit differently.
I honestly think it could go either way. We clearly don't have enough information on the Elvhen Pantheon to make a decisive distinction between Flemythal's situation as compared to Fen'Harel's/SolaFen's situation.
It is true that she claimed to have been murdered (this was also confirmed by Abelas) and was said to have held on to a piece of her essence and powers while searching for a "physical" host. Given these comments however, it is clear that these "Gods" are not simply of the Elvhen people, or rather they have transcended the aspect of what they were and now cannot be compared to whatever that was.
The way Flemeth describes how it feels to be "bonded" to Mythal, the discrepancy between them being "separate" beings is a slight one. They share everything, so I don't see this comment:
"The experiences he speaks about are his experiences. They weren't gained second hand."
necessarily being the best way of putting it.
I don't think it's as simple as living through a god but rather being one with a god, sharing everything, where one's feelings is as the other's. The process for Mythal's "possession" is stated to be based on choice. This would make it completely different from the possession we are familiar with a.k.a. demons. Demons possess from the Fade and control Bodies from The Fade. Their essence cannot cross over to become the entity they possess, unlike the way Flemythal describes her own situation, where Mythal's "essence" wandered and eventually "bonded" with Flemeth. They simply see through the host's eyes and manipulate their body like a puppet master, keeping the spirit of the host hostage within The Fade.
I also consider Kieran's comments about the Elvhen people i.e. why they "want to look like that" and that their blood is "very old".
This would seem to imply that even ancient Elvhen people had the capacity to shapeshift, further reinforced by the Codex entry: Ancient Elven Writing
This then has me wonder about the Pantheon's nature and abilities. It also brings into question the reason this was lost to time . I believe it has to do with the creation of the veil as well as the imprisonment of the Pantheon, much like the loss of immortality and the "appearance" of humans in Thedas.
As for Geldauran's claim
exert from Geldauran's claim: "There are no gods. There is only the subject and the object, the actor and the acted upon. Those with will to earn dominance over others gain title not by nature but by deed"
I don't see this necessarily pertaining to the Pantheon's nature, but rather giving us insight into The Forgotten Ones' perception of them and their disdain for what they represent. I don't see them as freedom fighters, but anyways I'm not going to delve into that as I already have a thread that goes in detail about my theories. What I will say is that the Pantheon could be a type of spirit/Elvhen hybrid and "The Forgotten Ones" a type of Elvhen/demon hybrid. They could all be powerful Elvhen mages or the pantheon could be of a different nature while "The Forgotten Ones" altered their own nature through their deeds to match the Pantheon. No matter what we believe,
Saying this:
"If every elf was doing this it dimishes how completely awesome Mythal was for being able to hang on like this."
is implying that Fen'Harel was like every other ancient Elvhen at the height of Elvhenan and that you know what the Pantheon's aspect and "true" nature actually was.
So far the information we have seems to imply that Fen'Harel was their (the pantheon's) kin and regarded as a brother. Which would mean he is "of" them i.e. his nature, while "The Forgotten Ones" see his attitude and rather than judging him by his "nature" they accept him through his "deeds" i.e. cunning ways.
Being of the god's does not mean he is like them. I think he saw both sides of the coin and realized those who truly suffered were the Elvhen people, thus he decided to rebel against those who would ignore the "little people" as Sera would so simply put it. The warring lead to casualties and he knew that eliminating one side wasn't enough, the shift of power would destroy the people, he had to stop the warring but also had to deal with both sides as they were keeping each other in check.
Back on track, I feel like Mythal's strength of character and uniqueness is quite intact despite Fen'Harel's disposition.
To put it like Geldauran: Those with will to survive gain title not by nature but by deed".
It's not about how she survived i.e. thanks to her nature, but why she survived i.e. her deeds. Her will is what I see as special, not her nature.
As for Fen'Harel and Solas. Again Solas could have been a dreamer who encountered or even woke Fen'Harel. They could have developed a kinship which led to their "union".
I'll finish with these, copy pasted from my theories thread:
This leads me to my next topic... SolaFen. First of all, let me start by explaining what I think of his origins. I believe Solas to be a willing "vessel", much like Flemeth. I also think the stories he's told us (the inquisitor) and his humble origins could be the truth, just not the whole truth.
Lelianna: "But he did give the name of the village where he grew up, noting that it was small, unlikely to appear on any map."
Lelianna: "They recently located the village... or what remains of it. It is a ruin, as it has been for centuries, its name preserved only in degraded form in Ancient Tevinter mysteries"
I believe Solas (or whatever his name was at the time) encountered Fen'Harel during his time exploring The Fade. He must have been in agreement with Fen'Harel and gave his body willingly. Given the conversation between SolaFen and FleMythal (When SolaFen explains that he didn't have enough power to unlock the Elvhen orb given his long slumber and recent awakening), I'm guessing the village he said he was born in was simply misdirection and that Solas is not in fact centuries old. I also say this because Mythal's vessel (Flemeth) is growing quite old physically and has already lived centuries. She needs willing replacements in order to sustain herself. If centuries mean nothing to Fen'Harel and Mythal however, than a long slumber might be millenia and being awake for a few centuries might be a recent awakening. I might be stretching it, but even if that was the case then SolaFen should also look as old as FleMythal does. Since that's not the case, I'll assume Solas was lying about his birth place and he bonded with Fen'Harel recently. If I had to guess, I'd argue that the location was in fact a place he visited while in the Fade, which is probably where he found its name.
and this:
That could be the case, but then why didn't Abelas recognize Fen'Harel while they were speaking, If Fen'Harel was a figurehead during the rebellion. Clearly Abelas was around during the time of the Elvhen Pantheon given his statements about Mythal and her "murder". For that to be explained, then no matter what, the physical body (Solas) would've had to be altered somehow. Either Fen'Harel can shapeshift into another humanoid being (unseen so far) or he can create illusions of some kind. Then there's also the why and how Fen'Harel "woke up". Also, we don't really know what the Elvhen Pantheon really were, the same way we know nothing about "The Forgotten Ones" (though Geldauran's claim could imply they were of the Elvhen people). They could have been similar to spirits (Elvhen Pantheon) and demons (The Forgotten Ones) who become something similar to Cole. Anyways a lot of ifs in here, so I'll stick to SolaFen for the time being.
Anyways just something to think about.
Oh and sorry for the very long response. I just like to be thorough.
Why would Abelas have known Fen'Harel? The lack of any non-wolf art anywhere implies he preferred a wolf form, and his banter with Sera makes it clear he liked to operate in small cells rather leading an army. We also don't know what form his rebellion took, or even if there was a rebellion.
Ancient elven shapeshifting has been confirmed since Origins (Mahariel can tell Morrigan that her magic is like Keeper magic).
I would also argue that, given Solas' comments on the matter, the elven gods were just elves, they were just very powerful.
So I was running around Valammar earlier trying to find the last mosaic pieces I've ignored until now... and... did anyone else take note of the gold elf-type statues tucked in the vault?
Spoiler'd for size. Nothing to do with the upcoming DLC.
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Looks like golden Fen'Harel statues, some Flemeth-ish looking woman with wings, and the owl things we see all over the place. I thought it was interesting, especially since I hadn't seemed to notice them before. Clearly. Since I also didn't notice the mosaic piece.
Closeup pic of the Flemeth-ish woman:
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And so my journey through DAI is over, end-game done, waiting for Tuesday. Sigh.
Nice find!
The Flemeth-ish woman reminds me of the statues in Emprise and Hissing Wastes.
Not for me. I wouldn't help her in her insane quest. She hated me and I don't like to rivalmance her. She's too precious to be mean to like that. Only Fenris I enjoyed rivalmancing. It's pretty heated! lol
You're missing out (and I'm also judging you for rivalling Fenris ) Merrill's Rivalmance is the best in the game. It doesn't even involve being mean (and I hate the idea that rivalling Merrill involves being 'mean' and like her emotions are too fragile to cope. She's not a baby, she's an adult woman) to her. As long as you haven't had her move in with you then you get +10 rivalry for each of the dark books you destroy, plus a huge rival hit for refusing to give her the tool.
Since there was all those posts (a couple of pages back) about Backstreet Boys and Solas & puppies, I decided to make this...
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Liking this wasn't enough. We need to save and reuse this.
Some more art (since the previous post was getting too long.)
Solavellan romance novel cover parody.
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Haha! Taken by the Dread Wolf...
That's amazing. It totally looks like something you'd see among the shirtless Highlanders, Native Americans, Dukes, Pirates, Vampires, Shapeshifters, etc. while perusing the romance section on the virtual library (and that list was suspiciously long wasn't it...)
Some more art (since the previous post was getting too long.)
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Wow, the emotion in this one is real. I actually "oohoho"ed out loud 
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Ahahah i stop my Lavellan playthrough before the temple of mythal waiting for the new patch , now i can go and get my heart broken ...again... but with style
Welp, next time I get banned for "insulting another member", I'll make sure I used swear words and would have REALLY insulted another member.
Because receiving a ban for what I said to that person trying really hard to be an ******* to this entire thread, feels like a missed opportunity, considering I had actually contained myself very much in my choice of words in order to be super extra crispy polite (but still get my point across).
Now it just feels like a waste of me unleashing my real self in there, If I gotta be banned, better it be because I REALLY deserved it.
But glad to see the members of this thread brought the thunder and made that person go away as soon as a real debate with clever arguments showed itself.
But glad to see the members of this thread brought the thunder and made that person go away as soon as a real debate with clever arguments showed itself.
Actually I stopped because a few other people here and I had a polite and civil discussion to the point where the discussion met its conclusion. I can continue the conversation with you if you would like.
Me too, I want to see more of the Black City but you can never get close enough
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What do you make of this:
The quest is optional, so surely not..
I doubt it. TIme travel is allllllwayyyys a pain in the ass to explain. because of so many theories about how it works. Basically it's defined by whatever you establish in your universe (when talking fiction) though in Dragon Age it's never truly been explained. The basis of any sound time traveling however comes from first contact. The "start of a loop". For example as awesome as back to the future is, it doesn't make sense. The same can be said about Predestination. For something to be caught in a "time loop" you have to "go through" the "original" timeline at least once. Here's a simplistic example, say you're birth was the product of your great grandson who went back in the past to do so and so and knocked up your mother (weird and a bit disgusting right). Well for this to have happened you had to come first in order for your grandson to travel back in the first place. Paradox.
This is a similar situation except for the fact that the inquisitor isn't directly involved in the event he'd be "altering". Just because something is out of time it doesn't change what happened before the inquisitor was born, outside of its influence. He traveled to The Fade long after the first joining. The time in which he visited The Fade is key. Once he's in The Fade, then time is irrelevant. So someone who would've entered The Fade physically before the joining was created could have been acceptable if following that logic. It's the same thing for the dreams. For them to have reached The Fade, they needed to be dreamt up during the events that happened right before the joining. Once they reached The Fade, they became timeless. The thing is we don't know exactly how time is affected. Is time "frozen" in The Fade? Can time be distorted to affect the past? The future? Both? We haven't been given enough information to conclude anything concrete so far. All we know is the that The Fade is constantly being reshaped by the beings and dreamers that inhabit it. We were in the nightmare demons realm, which is a realm created within The Fade, the rules can be bent, but to what degree, we have no idea. The more powerful the being the more The Fade can be affected. We also know that dreamers can get glimpses of what the future might hold. Which could hint at things being affected in The Fade both through the past and the future.
If things were frozen though, their would be a massive build up of dreams (nightmares in this case) like the ones we encountered which were stolen by the Nightmare demon. I'd have to assume that once a dreamer wakes up, the dream also leaves The Fade. The reason they were still in The Fade would have to be because the Nightmare demon kept them there to feed on. The only thing that would work in favor of the theory you posted above is based on whether or not the dreams are still attached to the time they were dreamt when stolen. Therefore our actions in the future could affect the past through the connection of those dreams within a timeless space (the bridge). But that's all heavy speculation. The way I figure it, everything outside The Fade is unaffected by it, once anything goes in however, they become "eternal" so to speak. So you could encounter a bunch of things from the past within The Fade, but couldn't affect the past found without from within The Fade through said things.
Anyways, that would explain the Elvhen immortality going bye-bye with the veil. I'm not sure if this makes sense to you, but you can't overthink it or you're going to get stuck in loop of thoughts rather than figuring out the time loop. I'm not sure if this makes sense to you, but you can't overthink it or you're going to get stuck in loop of thoughts rather than figuring out the time loop. (Just messing with you)
So I was running around Valammar earlier trying to find the last mosaic pieces I've ignored until now... and... did anyone else take note of the gold elf-type statues tucked in the vault?
Spoiler'd for size. Nothing to do with the upcoming DLC.
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Looks like golden Fen'Harel statues, some Flemeth-ish looking woman with wings, and the owl things we see all over the place. I thought it was interesting, especially since I hadn't seemed to notice them before. Clearly. Since I also didn't notice the mosaic piece.
Closeup pic of the Flemeth-ish woman:
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And so my journey through DAI is over, end-game done, waiting for Tuesday. Sigh.
Yeah I actually did, I took lots of screenshots of this, but forgot to upload It's veryyyy curious,
I'm actually taking shit-ton of screenshots so by the end of the playthrough I could compile a large post with all the things I noticed.
I think I may have found interesting things (although since you guys are so amazing, I doubt you didn't find them yourselves ![=]](https://lvlt.forum.bioware.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideways.png)
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Actually I stopped because a few other people here and I had a polite and civil discussion to the point where the discussion met its conclusion. I can continue the conversation with you if you would like.
I have read it all, and I don't see the need to pursue it at all. They've all made very clever and interesting points, you made none at all and want to live in a world full of your own personal certainties and truths, while we all know so little to begin with. You want to shape your own truths as legitimate based on little informations. You want to live in a world that is definite because that's a reassuring thing to do, instead of opening up to doubts, questions and wonder. Instead of looking for answers without judging, and trying to really understand someone and empathize with them. That's a very childish behavior to me, but to each their own, you're entitled to feel that way, but people are also entitled to call you out about it. They rightfully did so and you delivered nothing of substance since.
So no, I don't feel the need to discuss it further, we're not on the same level.
Besides, I don't feel the petty need to report every posts that don't go my way either, and I don't want to deal with people who do so.
Ahahah i stop my Lavellan playthrough before the temple of mythal waiting for the new patch , now i can go and get my heart broken ...again... but with style
I stopped mine right after the breakup. Gave my Lavellan a "new hotness" makeover. And decided to finish up random quests and craft until Tuesday. Can't decide if I want a fire, ice, or lightning staff...so....uh.. hey?! I'm a lurker that's...uh, delurked.
I really loveeeee The Raw Fade, One of the most beautiful and eerily interesting places to explore!
SOLAS! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!
Sadly as i said i most likely wont be able to play it right a way, or may be even for a long time, and i still cant decide if i want to spoiler myself or wait for it . ho most likely ill watch the first video, waiting is killing me. There is still small hope that ill be able to get the DLC few days after it live, but this hope is too small
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