Why would Abelas have known Fen'Harel? The lack of any non-wolf art anywhere implies he preferred a wolf form, and his banter with Sera makes it clear he liked to operate in small cells rather leading an army. We also don't know what form his rebellion took, or even if there was a rebellion.
It's not about knowing him. It's about having seen him at one point either during the rebellion or sometime at the height of Arlathan. From what we understand about Abelas, he was there when Mythal was murdered, for him to say with confidence that Fen'Harel was not to blame for her murder. It doesn't feel like second hand information being repeated from accounts made by propagandists, slanderers or other Elvhen people who witnessed what happened. The fact that he was chosen to defend her temple as well as his comments on the others sentinels' lack of knowledge show him to be different. Much more aware of what was than anyone we've encountered before. It doesn't prove he saw Fen before the rebellion in his "natural" form, but it does prove he was old enough to be around during the fall. What perspired then is speculation, much like the rebellion happening or not, though I'm basing my theories ob the information we have so far, I'm not saying that information is accurate but it probably holds a grain of truth.
"The Creators looked after the People. The Forgotten Ones preyed upon us. And one god who was neither. Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf. He was kin to the Creators, and in the old days, often helped them in their endless war against the Forgotten Ones. We barely even remember all their names, let alone who struck the first blow, who was wrong"..
Also "his supposed betrayal of both clans of gods by sealing them away in their respective realms, never again to interact with the mortal world, is sometimes used to explain why the elven gods--particularly the benevolent Creators--did not intervene to prevent the fall of Arlathan."
Again we don't know exactly how he managed to imprison them. He seems to have started a revolution, whether he was a figurehead or played from the shadows is the real question, though some legends claim he led the rebellion as a trickster warrior with bow and arrow. The most important detail to understand is whether he imprisoned them before he started the revolution as suggested in the above quote, as that would change our understanding of the whole conflict.
Fen could very well have been shapeshifting as a wolf most of the time, I'm not contesting that, the statues however, aren't an indication of any substantial eivdence and leave no foundation for a solid argument. We have no basis for when they were built therefore no context in which to weigh their significance. Many other gods have statues for which we have no explanation so far, such as the masked Mythal statues with wings and no arms for example. These statues could have been crafted as tribute to what Fen was claimed to represent by "modern" elves (post Arlathan). Given his infamy it would be quite appropriate for them to erect statues and tributes to appease the "Dread Wolf"
"In spite of Fen’Harel’s reputation, however, he has been known to be invoked by Dalish elves to express dismay at unexpected events ("By the Dread Wolf!"), to demand the annihilation of an enemy (“Dread Wolf take you!”), when all seems lost,[17] and as a wary farewell (“May the Dread Wolf never hear your steps”). Furthermore, some Dalish elves still erect shrines to him and make offerings; perhaps as a form of appeasement, but still a sign that the fearful wariness in which the Dread Wolf is held by modern-day elves is not absolute." [18]
With that said, we do know the fall of Arlathan was steeped in chaos and was theorized to have been caused and perpetuated when the Pantheon was "imprisoned". We also can infer on Solas' motivations given his conversations with Cole and Flemythal at the end scene. Clearly he expected his actions to have brought order and freedom to the people, though he underestimated the status quo to be so ingrained within the people as well as the lack of guidance and the anger, greed and ambition of those left behind.
The problem wasn't just the gods. It had become more than that. It was the system. The warring was said to be a constant, made worse when the pantheon had to fight against "The Forgotten Ones". Fen'Harel saw that the lower class Elvhen people were casualties of their (the Pantheon's and The Forgotten Ones') war and as such needed to seal both parties away. Once that was done there were still the High Keepers and Highborn Elvhen people to take care of. How do you think they would have reacted. They obviously liked their own luxuries. They were on top of the fallacies perpetuated by such a broken system, never feeling the negative effects. They lived like kings and were devout to their gods. What do you think spurred the fall of Arlathan, what caused the continued conflict? It was the fact that the system had been implanted deep within the people. Even without the Gods present, nobles and priests would still fight and die in their names to keep the status quo. Meanwhile, the slaves that could, would rebel seeing as the gods were gone. Internal strife, civil war. With no one to rule over them, to stem the chaos, then it would consume them. Besides, how could Fen'Harel have stood against both "The Forgotten Ones" and the Pantheon without subterfuge. If he was leading a rebellion, you'd think he would've waited to show himself until he found a way to stop those in power before they found out about his plans.
Given his conversation with Sera,
- Solas: I heard about your organization, Sera. I am impressed.
- Sera: Is this a trick?
- Solas: Hardly. But it is an opportunity. You have already divided your group's membership. That is wise. No one cell can betray all your secrets. The next step is to establish a rhythm. When your enemies pursue, you vanish. When they become complacent, you harass them. When they are weak, you strike in earnest.
I'd say he was a very strategic man as well as being known for his cunning. He would've used the war between both the Pantheon and "The Forgotten Ones" to manipulate them to his ends. Otherwise, he surely would've failed, even with Mythal's help.
That was an exert from my thread. I understand your argument, but in my opinion it only pertains to his actions against the Pantheon and Forgotten Ones during times of war. Once they were imprisoned he either led a failed rebellion, or left the Elvhen people to sort out their problems which still lead to their downfall.
Restoring what was lost does not necessarily mean freeing the Elvhen Pantheon, it could simply mean restoring the Elvhen race to power. We know SolaFen does not favor what the past was but rather what he wanted it to be. Bringing back his brethren could mean history repeating itself. He also declares his allegiance to the Elvhen people rather than to his brethren, claiming that this is the reason he cannot face punishment yet. Also conversations between SolaFen and Cole seem to indicate what the Elvhen Pantheon was or has become.
Cole: "He hurts, an old pain from before when everything sang the same" (before the veil?)
Cole: "You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything. But it can't."
(I think this is a reference to him being physically present after the veil was created, as in bonded with Solas like FleMythal. With this knowledge, he could help his brethren do the same, however, if he does, then things will become what they were and Fen'Harel can't allow that, despite the love he holds for his kin. This potentially adds weight to my theory about the spirit/physical separation of the Pantheon)
Cole: They sleep, masked in a mirror, hiding, hurting and to wake them... (Gasp) where did it go?
Solas: I apologize, Cole. That is not a pain you can heal.
(Cole refers to the Elvhen gods, masking or masked from their true aspects in an eluvian, sleeping and suffering. When he says where did it go, he refers to Solas' pain which Solas in turn confirms by stating that Cole cannot heal it. This is quite interesting. It would seem that the Elvhen god's might not be imprisoned in the Golden city, as I suspect, but rather in a realm reached only through an eluvian).
Ancient elven shapeshifting has been confirmed since Origins (Mahariel can tell Morrigan that her magic is like Keeper magic).
What's your point? I used the shapeshifting example to highlight the mundane vs. the exceptional of the time. I read the keeper's comments, I also played origins, but my comments were about the context, not the discovery of Elvhen people's ability to shapeshift but it's significance, which wasn't confirmed by her statement. We only knew the magical techniques originated from the Elvhen people, not that it was common or blasphemy ( Dragons) for certain forms. The codex I linked however is a concrete example of the times, not Dalish history. It's a display of what was held sacred and what was forbidden. Again it's what makes me wonder what that then means for the Pantheon, Which leads to your next statement.
I would also argue that, given Solas' comments on the matter, the elven gods were just elves, they were just very powerful.
What comments exactly are you referring to?
As for their nature
This comes to mind
The Tome of Koslun, the sacred Qunari scripture explicitly says that "the Old Gods were like unto dragons, as the first human kings were like unto ordinary men".
Also the fact that Mythal can absorb an old god essence, and can herself survive as "energy" outside of The Fade after losing most of her power strikes you as something just elves can do? How would you explain the Elvhen decline. Nevermind internal strife, what about the loss of immortality following the Pantheon's disappearance. I don't believe the Pantheon to be gods, but given what we've seen of Fen and Myth, I can't see them as being just some powerful Elvhen mages. To have led so many that held them up with such reverence, In a place where magic was
"as natural as breathing" in a place where there were "spires of crystal twining through the branches, palaces floating among the clouds."
You'd have to be more than mundane where magic is just that.
Anyways all this to say that there isn't enough for or against his disposition. Solas could very well be the same god who was Fen all those millenia ago but it always brings up questions.
Where was he sleeping? He was said to walk the Fade, was he just in Uthenera for millenia or was there more to it. What or who woke him up? Why try to change things now? Was he stuck in The Fade, was he forced in Uthenera? Was Mythal aware of his situation,if so, why didn't wake him or did she wake him? If so, why now?
I have a lot of theories but not all answer these questions.