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[dawnstone]

On a random note, I've got a quest to find about 48 Hard in Hightown books around Skyhold. Has anyone else gotten this quest before? What do i get at the end? Do i get to romance Varric cause I'd be on that like chesthair on...Varric.

You unlock the librarian and that quest when you pick, I think, the Advanced Knowledge or something perk. No effect on Varric though.

[S.W.]

As far as I remember... Nothing. D: I never got anything from the librarian at any rate. He didn't even acknowledge me. D:

 

wait, there's a librarian in skyhold?

 

~mysteries abound~

 

you can definitely tell I have 250+ hours on this game.

[madrar]

Well, that's why perspective is important. Also important is not to confuse abstract influence and themes with concrete parallels. We can easily end up focusing too closely on one piece and end up missing the rest of the puzzle. I agree The Fade itself has many themes related to  psychology (mainly jungian) while Evolutionary psychology could be applied to the Elvhen people. Comparative Mythology seems ripe in any culture we've encountered. The Monomyth is extremely broad and can be applied in most interesting stories 

 

All of these themes however have very limited value because of the "clash". Reality vs. Fantasy. Magic is what changes everything, the "invariable" constant, which is why we can't reason in scientific terms or assume anything concrete based on similarities alone. That's also what I think makes it so interesting. Anyways, I'm glad you also like discussing lore.

 

Ooooh.   @w@  I see I popped in at a good time.  

 

I don't believe this "clash" you describe exists, to be honest.  One of the more interesting conceits of DA is the suggestion that the 'fanciful' nature of magic is (at least in part) a matter of perspective and degree.   In game, mages draw upon the fade- potential in raw form- and give it shape on this side of the veil by enforcing their will upon it.  To put that another way, magic is the means by which a mage changes the world around her.   

 

Now consider your own free will, your ability to choose.  Is the process really so different, conceptually, from magic?   Faced with raw potential, we direct our will toward the outcome we desire.  We choose- and by those choices, shape the world around us.  It's not as easy as magic, naturally- but it's not supposed to be.  To quote Cole, "this side of the veil is slow and heavy, but here is what can change."  Shaping Thedas is easy.  Change on this side of the veil is hard.  Wishing our reality were other than it is has no effect at all.  Our magic lies entirely in the choices we make, and the actions we take to see them realized.  

 

Consider another example: veilfire runes, and their ability to evoke meaning directly in the mind of the viewer.   Again, what distinguishes them as 'magic' could be considered a matter of perspective and scope.  

 

Tiny pink poodle wearing a zebra pimp hat.

 

…not a great example, but there you go.  By arranging lines and dots in a very specific pattern, I placed an image directly in your mind.  It's not Tevinter-style mind control, of course.  You recognize the thought as having an external source and are free to dismiss it at will.  Still, as you read, the thoughts of another person - possibly far removed from you in space or time- temporarily take residence in your mind.  

 

To get back to the point, I don't consider magic to be a transformative element in the DA universe.  I think it's a pointed thematic marker, a fun-house mirror exaggeration of an aspect of our own reality.  Consequently, I don't believe its existence invalidates the connection between the "real world" and the game-as-fade.  Thedas remains a warped mirror of our own, a phantom, malleable realm in which the rules of our reality are bent, but never broken.

 

_{^{WHEEEE four more days!!!  (((@w@)))}}   

[Draconaise]

Oh my freaking god-- I have been really busy for the last week or so and I JUST saw the trailer and updates about the final DLC.

 

I'll have to go back and read all the stuff that's been said since Aug 29, but until then, my incredibly coherent first thoughts:

 

SOLAS, BABY. GAAAAAAAAAAAH.

SOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS.

 

Yup.

[The Oracle]

Ha, he's very excitable. Wish he had a name. I'm going to call him Larry. Larry the Librarian. 

[Delphine]

The closer we get to the release date, the slower it feels time passes by. Yay relativity?

[Jayla]

The closer we get to the release date, the slower it feels time passes by. Yay relativity?

 

Not for me. I'm trying to finish my current (and only) save before it hits so I can share the post DLC glory with you guys, but I've got too much to do and not enough time to do it in. x)

[midnight tea]

The closer we get to the release date, the slower it feels time passes by. Yay relativity?

 

I'm pretty sure Bioware is DELIBERATELY manipulating time. I'm telling you - they're cruel that way!

 

(....I have no clue how I'd last Sunday and Monday without exploding. And Tuesday? I'd be able to buy the DLC probably around 7 PM, so till I got it bought, downloaded and installed I'd just be sitting on pins and needles, unable to focus on anything)

[Caddius]

Wait, Frank and Madrar theory-crafting in the same thread?

It's like Simon and Garfunkel meeting for the first time. (Those two were good together, right? I'm...not up to date on music analogies. )

[Uirebhiril]

I suppose the DLC will drop later on Tuesday, rather than at midnight?

[midnight tea]

I suppose the DLC will drop later on Tuesday, rather than at midnight?

 

For me (in Poland) things usually appear around 7 PM local time.

[Delphine]

I see you guys talking about potential release hour, but then I realize I have to convert them to my Parisian timezone, and my brain stops computing.

[midnight tea]

I see you guys talking about potential release hour, but then I realize I have to convert them to my Parisian timezone, and my brain stops computing.

 

We share the same timezone

[Delphine]

For me (in Poland) things usually appear around 7 PM local time.

 

Oh, I can vaguely compute with Polish timezone. Might be one hour around that then.

[Delphine]

We share the same timezone

 

We do? Damn, here I though there was at least an hour apart. Makes no sense, we have an hour apart from UK, they're right above us, but we share the same timezone than you guys while you're so far away from France. Ah, well.

[Commander of the Grey]

I'll be in agony since the PSN doesn't update till 3 or 4 pm and then how ever long my slow internet takes to download it.

It's just a mouse in a wheel. Yay for small town life~ *groan* hopefully I'll get to it before midnight.

[SamanthaJ]

I suppose the DLC will drop later on Tuesday, rather than at midnight?

I forgot who (I'm sorry if it was you person who reads this), but someone told me it would probably come around noon. I don't have any sources to confirm that, though, so this is just grapevine stuff here.

[midnight tea]

We do? Damn, here I though there was at least an hour apart. Makes no sense, we have an hour apart from UK, they're right above us, but we share the same timezone than you guys while you're so far away from France. Ah, well.

 

I happen to live close to the edge of the timezone

[madrar]

Wait, Frank and Madrar theory-crafting in the same thread?

It's like Simon and Garfunkel meeting for the first time. (Those two were good together, right? I'm...not up to date on music analogies. )

 

CADDIUS!  ヾ(✪ω✪)ｼ   I caught the phrase "loremonger's smorgasboard" in Laidlaw's interview and had to check in with the mechaMordin.  

 

Sir, reporting for duty, sir!  

[Delphine]

I happen to live pretty much at the edge of the timezone

 

Either way, works for me, saves my brain from computing timezones and will just follow your lead on the release hour \o/

[Eurowande]

wow i have the feeling that everyone writing fanfics based on Trespasser settled for the most sad endingi should stop reading or i wont have any tears left for the DLC 

[midnight tea]

Either way, works for me, saves my brain from computing timezones and will just follow your lead on the release hour o/

 

 

Well, I'll probably be checking the store every few minutes all Tuesday till it drops, so unless something happens to my Internet (Gawd, please NO) I'll be probably screaming "IT'S HERE! IT'S HERE!!" 

[midnight tea]

wow i have the feeling that everyone writing fanfics based on Trespasser settled for the most sad endingi should stop reading or i wont have any tears left for the DLC 

 

... There are already people writing fanfiction based on Trespasser... before the release of Trespasser  ?

[Delphine]

Well, I'll probably be checking the store every few minutes all Tuesday till it drops, so unless something happens to my Internet (Gawd, please NO) I'll be probably screaming "IT'S HERE! IT'S HERE!!" 

 

Will surely do the same, to be honest. And then, start the download, go to sleep, and start playing it the next morning. And try to stop coming here in the meantime, cause Americans will probably have played it during my sleeping (and dreaming about it) D:

[Caddius]

CADDIUS!  ヾ(✪ω✪)ｼ   I caught the phrase "loremonger's smorgasboard" in Laidlaw's interview and had to check in with the mechaMordin.  

 

I see some are already here...   *waves frantically*   Any sign of Oxy?  Squish?  Gwyvian?

Oxy?

Ahem.

I HAVE HEARD IT SAID THAT SOLAIRE IS NOT IN FACT GYWN'S FIRST SON AND THAT ALL OF THAT THEORY-CRAFTING WAS FOR NAUGHT!

That should do it.

I'm not sure how to bring in Squish, that's more your field of expertise, and I don't have enough paprika to lure any Hungarians in.