My family went to a family reunion without me, but Grandma promised to bring me home dessert. I've decided to save it for Tuesday, but I know for a fact that chocolate sheet cake will be among them.
I told my Grandma why I was saving it and she laughed at me.
Noo, I want characters! I'm one of those people who watched a lot of anime and decided they really like the Japanese language and culture.
Also, what's the character for Pride? And can we write Solas' name with that character, or does it have to be katakana?
eep. I was hoping Jewlie was going to field this one, because connotation is a minefield. Jikoku mageru would be 地獄曲げる, but the tricky thing about "pride" is that it depends heavily on context. We have a ton of synonyms in English, but none of them really have the same dualism: self-respecting, deserved confidence and cocky, disdainful arrogance. It would take a native speaker to suss out the perfect parallel.
Anyway, the only Japanese I can offer is weighted toward the latter:
誇り is the usual translation, but not sure about the positive connotation aspect
うぬぼれ is more overconfident/vain
傲慢 is arrogant, haughty
自尊心 is neutral, but not really the right idea
見識 is probably way too positive. I like it for Solas, though. ^w^
*makes batsignal for Jewlie*
If you want guaranteed fluffiness, Josephine is your woman.
There's no way they'll do anything to her character, she'll be the charming funny swan princess of awesome. I predict in Tresspasser my fem Trev warrior will marry her in a fairy tale wedding of which all of Thedas will speak for years. I will be using that playthrough to heal my heart after Solas is done.
I'd never taken an interest in Josephine at all in my other playthroughs, she just seemed dull to me. Don't kill me! But in my current PT I decided to give her a fair chance and actually paid attention to her, and she is super sweet. I even did her personal quest the long way (never again though). Before I couldn't see why other people would want to romance her, but I get it now. x)
Sadly though, I'm keen to try out Cullen's, Dorian's, Bull's, and Cass' romanced out way before I'd even think about hers.
My family went to a family reunion without me, but Grandma promised to bring me home dessert. I've decided to save it for Tuesday, but I know for a fact that chocolate sheet cake will be among them.
I told my Grandma why I was saving it and she laughed at me.
I really wish I could romance Josephine, she's the only other romance I'd be interested in aside from Solas. Unfortunately I only play one character throughout all my playthroughs, even if I do explore different options sometimes with that character. And I could never not romance Solas, and I would never romance Josephine on the side, it just seems... wrong.
Imagine that at the end of Tresspasser Solas holds your Lavellan close and their foreheads touch. Then he says, "Before you choose to come with me, I want you to try to find happiness with somebody else. My path is far too dark for your brihgt spirit to walk along unknowingly." Then he casts a spell to send your Lavellan back when it all began. You get to play the game all over again and Lavellan must try to be with somebody else, to either find peace or to show Solas that truly, no matter what, he is the one.
There. You are free. 
Go romance Josephine!
eep. I was hoping Jewlie was going to field this one, because connotation is a minefield. Jikoku mageru would be "地獄曲げる", but the tricky thing about "pride" is that its feel depends heavily on context. We have a ton of synonyms in English, but none of them really have the same dualism: self-respecting, deserved confidence and cocky, disdainful arrogance. It would take a native speaker to suss out the perfect parallel, if one exists.
Anyway, the only Japanese I can offer is weighted toward the latter:
誇り is the usual translation, but not sure about the positive connotation aspect
うぬぼれ is more the "overconfident" kind of pride, vanity
傲慢 is arrogant, haughty
自尊心 might work?
見識 is almost too positive, I think?
*makes batsignal for Jewlie*
Oooh, I demand more knowledge about the nuances of those! Jewlieeee!
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Those are all things that depend on the choices you make in game, not things that will inevitably happen. Even for Solas leaving, choosing to romance Solas is still a choice.
Romancing Josephine is still a choice too, but while you feel confident that your Trevelyan will get to run off into the sunset with her to be happy, I can't feel confident that my Adaar will get the same outcome because the games have been really good about denying the same happy ending with an LI for one PC race that they provide for a human character in the same circumstances.
Romance Alistair as a human? Yay! You get to stay together and be happy no matter what! (You get to stay with him if he stays a Warden and marry him if he becomes king.) Romance him as a non-human? Well, you'd better make the right choices if you don't want to get dumped.
You also said that you can't see them screwing over an entire race of PCs while everyone else gets their happy ending, but they already did that with the Elven Inquisitor. Our race-specific war table missions are the only ones that result in our entire family slaughtered (doesn't happen to any other Inquisitor), and Solas is the only love interest who can only be romanced by an Elf, and he's the only one who leaves no matter what. (Cullen is the only other race-gated romance, but he's available to humans and he's doesn't leave no matter what you do.) (P.S. Oh yeah, Sera also only gives you an ultimatum and dumps you if you're a Dalish Inquisitor. She doesn't do that to any other raced Inquisitor.)
And saying, "Well, romancing them in the first place is still a choice" doesn't really count because we don't choose to go into the relationship planning to have our hearts broken. When you think about it, the game doesn't warn that the love interest will definitely leave unless we definitely do X, so we're kind of tricked into it. And since the "tricked into heartbreak" scenarios tend to happen to non-human protagonists who pick a love interest compared to human protagonists who choose the same love interest in the same scenario, I think I have every right to feel cautious.
Imagine that at the end of Tresspasser Solas holds your Lavellan close and their foreheads touch. Then he says, "Before you choose to come with me, I want you to try to find happiness with somebody else. My path is far too dark for your brihgt spirit to walk along unknowingly." Then he casts a spell to send your Lavellan back when it all began. You get to play the game all over again and Lavellan must try to be with somebody else, to either find peace or to show Solas that truly, no matter what, he is the one.
There. You are free.
Hahahahaha. Could you imagine how pissed off people would be.
I doubt it will end like this
Romancing Josephine is still a choice too, but while you feel confident that your Trevelyan will get to run off into the sunset with her to be happy, I can't feel confident that my Adaar will get the same outcome because the games have been really good about denying the same happy ending with an LI for one PC race that they provide for a human character in the same circumstances.
Romance Alistair as a human? Yay! You get to stay together and be happy no matter what! (You get to stay with him if he stays a Warden and marry him if he becomes king.) Romance him as a non-human? Well, you'd better make the right choices if you don't want to get dumped.
You also said that you can't see them screwing over an entire race of PCs while everyone else gets their happy ending, but they already did that with the Elven Inquisitor. Our race-specific war table missions are the only ones that result in our entire family slaughtered (doesn't happen to any other Inquisitor), and Solas is the only love interest who can only be romanced by an Elf, and he's the only one who leaves no matter what. (Cullen is the only other race-gated romance, but he's available to humans and he's doesn't leave no matter what you do.) (P.S. Oh yeah, Sera also only gives you an ultimatum and dumps you if you're a Dalish Inquisitor. She doesn't do that to any other raced Inquisitor.)
But Trevelyans can have many terrible things happen to them as well. If fem Trev romances Cullen and tells him to take lyrium, she will have her heart broken. My fem Trev's a templar, so that makes it a really sensitive issue between the two of them. If a male Trev romances Cassandra, he will have his heart broken when Cassandra goes off to become Divine. The world state can also end up being pretty bad, just as with other races, depending on the choices made.
Some very harsh things can happen to elven Inquisitors in game, and that makes sense, given the position of the elves in Thedossian society. But so far there always have been options which if picked ensure just as happy an ending as one would have with a human Inquisitor.
And saying, "Well, romancing them in the first place is still a choice" doesn't really count because we don't choose to go into the relationship planning to have our hearts broken. When you think about it, the game doesn't warn that the love interest will definitely leave unless we definitely do X, so we're kind of tricked into it. And since the "tricked into heartbreak" scenarios tend to happen to non-human protagonists who pick a love interest compared to human protagonists who choose the same love interest in the same scenario, I think I have every right to feel cautious.
Anders.
Romancing Josephine is still a choice too, but while you feel confident that your Trevelyan will get to run off into the sunset with her to be happy, I can't feel confident that my Adaar will get the same outcome because the games have been really good about denying the same happy ending with an LI for one PC race that they provide for a human character in the same circumstances.
Romance Alistair as a human? Yay! You get to stay together and be happy no matter what! (You get to stay with him if he stays a Warden and marry him if he becomes king.) Romance him as a non-human? Well, you'd better make the right choices if you don't want to get dumped.
You also said that you can't see them screwing over an entire race of PCs while everyone else gets their happy ending, but they already did that with the Elven Inquisitor. Our race-specific war table missions are the only ones that result in our entire family slaughtered (doesn't happen to any other Inquisitor), and Solas is the only love interest who can only be romanced by an Elf, and he's the only one who leaves no matter what. (Cullen is the only other race-gated romance, but he's available to humans and he's doesn't leave no matter what you do.) (P.S. Oh yeah, Sera also only gives you an ultimatum and dumps you if you're a Dalish Inquisitor. She doesn't do that to any other raced Inquisitor.)
And saying, "Well, romancing them in the first place is still a choice" doesn't really count because we don't choose to go into the relationship planning to have our hearts broken. When you think about it, the game doesn't warn that the love interest will definitely leave unless we definitely do X, so we're kind of tricked into it. And since the "tricked into heartbreak" scenarios tend to happen to non-human protagonists who pick a love interest compared to human protagonists who choose the same love interest in the same scenario, I think I have every right to feel cautious.
But you forgot about the dark ritual) DAO was my first computer game at all, so it was a huge experiment, and I played as a female human noble and of course Alister was my first romance choise because he was sweet and awkward and I was a teen who dreamed of a guy like this. So when the time for the ritual came, I couldn't even imagine letting anyone else (especially Morrigan) to have sex with Alister, and I thought all that stuff about death was bullshit, so I didn't perform the ritual, believing that anyway if anyone die in this game, it will be my Cousland. And than Alister stopped her saying stuff like he can't allow this to happen and he died instead, never giving me a chance to say "No, be alive and rule Ferelden and so on". I was SO frustrated, I cried for days. I never romanced him since that moment))
My point is - it's always about right choices, no matter what race you chose.
"Noooooooo!!!" *Clings to Solas, sobbing*Imagine that at the end of Tresspasser Solas holds your Lavellan close and their foreheads touch. Then he says, "Before you choose to come with me, I want you to try to find happiness with somebody else. My path is far too dark for your brihgt spirit to walk along unknowingly." Then he casts a spell to send your Lavellan back when it all began. You get to play the game all over again and Lavellan must try to be with somebody else, to either find peace or to show Solas that truly, no matter what, he is the one.
There. You are free.
[chimes in] Totally a matter of perspective I think. Fem Lavellans have six romance options, or four if we're talking straight options only, compared to two options for some race/gender/sexuality combinations. In that regard who's being screwed over and who is blessed? Both 'base' romances which were available to her (Iron Bull, Blackwall) can end happily. Solas and Cullen were added as 'extras'. And then if none of them don't do it for you, you can try Jose or Sera! When I found myself with my preferred race/gender/sexuality combo having 6 options compared to not 4 but 2, it was insane!
Plus, Elven Inquisitors also got spades of lore and ties to the plot via their race - for Qunari and Dwarf Inquisitors in that department it's said by a good number of folk to be lacking. DAI is an Elf-PC game up the wazoo and after humans they had it best in this game in terms of fit and focus. sidenote: iirc the clan ops' handling was a bit of a ****-up and the devs admitted that, so it's not like it was designed that way intentionally. We go into these games with the meta knowledge that Thedas is a crapsack world, that the games are ones of choice and consequence, and that there are many decisions to make and many potential tragic twists/ends and even some unavoidable ones, but then subsequent alternative paths or completely different options that you can take to assuage the negativity. Like real relationships, they don't always have happy endings - but, there are plenty other options there should you wish to experience that in-game. If an author writes a book, and you get attached to a character in the book, and then they die - the author isn't tricking you then. Same thing here. And another thing; Thedas is a universe with a lot of entrenched intense racism. It fits the lore that this is reflected in some of the romances, where appropriate. No way can a dwarf or elf be Queen of Ferelden the way southern Thedas is right now, for example - especially an elf. We're talking about a place where nobles raping elves in the alienages is not punished by the law, and where chevaliers in the next country over kill elves for entrance ceremony sport. & so forth
I don't think the devs can win with Solasmance tbh, whatever they do with it people are going to be angry or dissatisfied it seems.
If anyone's interested in baking something for Trespasser, I think these cookies would be perfect comfort food. 
I can't play it for a while because of apartment hunting this week and I'm hoping to stay unspoiled. 
But stay strong, falons! ♥ I'll be thinking fondly of you!
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If anyone's interested in baking something for Trespasser, I think these cookies would be perfect comfort food.
I can't play it for a while because of apartment hunting this week and I'm hoping to stay unspoiled.
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Do you have a source for the forehead touching screenshot? The forehead touching moment is one of my favorite.
Do you have a source for the forehead touching screenshot? The forehead touching moment is one of my favorite.
My flycam screenshots! ^^; I've been messing around with it. It's actually the kissing part, but from a weird angle. (I think it was as Solas was starting to pull away from her.)
Some of them are on my tumblr too.
Guys......tomorrow is Monday......
Only one more full day.....
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I just bought the Alexiad for some reason. That should see me through...
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But Trevelyans can have many terrible things happen to them as well. If fem Trev romances Cullen and tells him to take lyrium, she will have her heart broken.
That happens to any Inquisitor who tells him to take lyrium though, although the only non-human who can romance Cullen is--who else?--Lavellan.
Let's try this again:
Solas = female elf only = leaves no matter what.
Cullen = not female elf only = doesn't leave no matter what.
The two would only be comparable if Cullen was a human-only romance and he dumped the human PC and left no matter what by the end of the game, while every other love interest available to non-human protagonists had at least the option to stick around.
But you forgot about the dark ritual) DAO was my first computer game at all, so it was a huge experiment, and I played as a female human noble and of course Alister was my first romance choise because he was sweet and awkward and I was a teen who dreamed of a guy like this. So when the time for the ritual came, I couldn't even imagine letting anyone else (especially Morrigan) to have sex with Alister, and I thought all that stuff about death was bullshit, so I didn't perform the ritual, believing that anyway if anyone die in this game, it will be my Cousland. And than Alister stopped her saying stuff like he can't allow this to happen and he died instead, never giving me a chance to say "No, be alive and rule Ferelden and so on". I was SO frustrated, I cried for days. I never romanced him since that moment))
My point is - it's always about right choices, no matter what race you chose.
Not really. Race and class has absolutely no bearing on the dark ritual. Mage, human, elf, or dwarf, say yes to the ritual and you both remain together. Say no to the ritual and one of you dies.
With the Landsmeet, it's different. Keep him a Warden and you both remain together, woo hoo. But make him a king and race does factor into whether you can remain happy together. Make him king as a mage or non-human and he dumps you made prior (unsavory) choices. Make him king as a noble human and you can marry him without having to make any prior choices.
Simple as that.
Listen, I'm not saying that human noble protagonists never get hard knocks, nor that they never get kicked in the teeth romantically for making the "wrong" in-game choices. I'm just making an observation that as a fan of non-human noble player characters, I've noticed that non-human noble protagonists seem to get kicked in the teeth romantically for not having "the right birth" more often than human noble protagonists. So far a human-only love interest hasn't dumped and left a human protagonist no matter what (even Anders can stick around), and a love interest hasn't given an ultimatum to or dumped a human protagonist because they had the wrong birth (the way King Alistair dumps a non-human noble Warden, or Sera dumps a Dalish for daring to be "elfy." Sera also hates human nobles, but she doesn't force Trevelyan to choose between their culture/land/titles whatever and her the way she does to a Dalish Inquisitor.)
I can't find any videos of Inquisition in Spanish 
. Every video I found on youtube was just subtitled.
Is it even out in Spanish? I would've though so if they have French and German..
With the Landsmeet, it's different. Keep him a Warden and you both remain together, woo hoo. But make him a king and race does factor into whether you can remain happy together. Make him king as a mage or non-human and he dumps you made prior (unsavory) choices. Make him king as a noble human and you can marry him without having to make any prior choices.
Yup, plus Alistair's very valid reason for ending the relationship-- he needs an heir. Two Grey Wardens are unlikely to produce one--is conviently a non-factor should you be a noble human.
Which probably annoys me more than having my Surana dumped. Yeah, she's a mage and an elf. The Chantry barely considers her a person. Still. I really wish they would've either been consistant--or brought up the mage/race issue. It could've been awesome and heartbreaking. Alistair loves the non noble but knows his people, the very ones he now has appease, or be back where they started, will never accept her.
If you want guaranteed fluffiness, Josephine is your woman.
I think I have to finally do her romance one day, but Josie just reminded me too much of myself and therefore I never flirted with her at all.
However, after being reminded when playing out my endgame save for Trespasser how distracting Cassandra can be, I may have to actually play DA as a man for once someday. 
But after Trespasser comes and goes, I plan to finally make my kind of serious Trevelyan mage who believes in the Maker and supports the Chantry/Templars and takes Vivienne as a mentor...and becomes pretty undone by Sera, who drags the fun side of her out. 
I can't find any videos of Inquisition in Spanish
Is it even out in Spanish? I would've though so if they have French and German..
I have only found Spanish subtitles. Even JoH translated and subtitled but the audio is English.
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