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#118101
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I think it could work as a picture book.  Are you going to use the same style as the ending slides?  Because that is how I pictured it.

 

Yes. I want to make it simple, without a lot of shading or colour. Obviously, my drawing skills aren't nearly as good as those of professionals, but I really wanted to practice drawing 'simple', yet effective things for a long time. I think I will end up with 8 or 14 pictures in total, depending on how many pictures I want to draw for every 'section' of the little story. =)



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If I might add my two cents:

 

My boyfriend once said that fantasy races tend to be exaggerations of aspects of human nature, and he has a point; orcs are the bulky, brutish, thuggish; dwarves the miners, smiths, artisans and craftsmen; halflings the curious, light-hearted, gypsy-like; gnomes the philosophers, intellectuals, and tinkerers.

 

I think most modern fantasy elves are seen to embody aspects of humanity that is not "cool" to the general public. They are the slim and slight, the intuitive and artistic, the emotional and mystical. They are the environmentalists, the "hippy tree-huggers," the wine-sippers, the cat-lovers, the poets and (non-rock or rap) musicians.

 

They aren't generally seen as big, buff, hairy, "manly," or "badass" like your typical grizzled beefcake Hollywood action star or AAA game protagonist. They are seen to embody softer, gentler, and more emotional (and dare I say it? "feminine") features, while most people prefer the rougher, tougher, more stoic and violent and "action-y" features.

 

Given our modern society's generally (though not universally) anti-intellectual, artistic, and environmental mainstream attitudes, I think people will find some reason to dislike fantasy elves.

 

Bayonet Hipshot Very Greatly Approves

 

That is the main reason I like Elves. Not because of Lord of the Rings but because they portray the behaviors many humans label as uncool or weird or abnormal.



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Spoiler

 

Might be worth editing that for spoiler tagging, just in case.

 

But..

 

Spoiler

 

And if anyone else knows... is there a notable difference in how travel in the crossroads works for non-elf characters?


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Spoiler

 

I am now laughing in the middle of still continuing to process my feelings.



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Not much. The Crossroads actually looks different for non-elves. It's very drab and colorless, and I was totally surprised doing my Lavellan as my second Trespasser run.


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Had to play my level 8 human tonight to play with new abilities (not really a spoiler, just new playthrough thing available with new DLC) and I'm about to do In your Heart Shall burn for the first time with Calpurnia with Cory instead of Samson. I miss Dorian.

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People can be attracted to whatever and whoever they want, makes no difference to me. People who complain about stupid things are stupid.
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Gryff Lavellan Greatly Disapproves.

 

And yeah, I see where you're coming from.

 

*shrug* Just my observations.

 

Wait, so in the fandom where they're actually racist, genocidal slave owners they're loved for it, and in the fandom where they're historically opressed people they're hated for it.

 

Altmer Aedric superiority !

 

You dare fight a Dunmer, N'wah ?!

 

Bosmer cannbalism & tree hugging !

 

Mutated blind Snow Elves.

 

Deep Elf technological superiority !

 

No one bests an Orc !
 

Say what you will about TES Elves but they are badasses. They are the kind of Elves you would not want to mess around with.

 

Case and point.

 

Masculine and "Badass" (even if morally degenerate) = good.

 

Perceived softer, gentler, more vulnerable (like historically oppressed slaves) = bad.

 

 

I also have a theory that modern fantasy elves are generally dislike hated because they threaten people's perceptions of humanity. If elves are shown to be morally equal or superior to humans, it threatens a commonly held belief that humans are so freaking awesome that we're the best race ever, both in the real world and any fictional world, so they automatically hate elves or pick the elves' faults apart to reassure themselves that humanity is still the best.

 

I think a lot of the hatred of Thedas elves also comes from suppressed guilt. Yes, Thedas elves are oppressed victims, but humans are the oppressors. Admitting that the elves deserve better means admitting that humanity did wrong (and that there's something fundamentally flawed with humans that we oppressed and destroy everything we can't control), so it's easier to assure themselves that elves suck, elves deserve their fate, elves did the same to each other, elves would do the same in human shoes, etc. etc.

 

I mean, given some of the revelations in The Masked Empire and Dragon Age Inquisition alone, it's amazing how many people jump to say, "See? The elves oppressed each other, so that makes it okay for us to oppress them!"


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What we need is Thranduil. He'd solve this elf dilema.
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What we need is Thranduil. He'd solve this elf dilema.

If we produce enough eyebrow mods, he will be summoned. :D


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Might be worth editing that for spoiler tagging, just in case.

 

But..

 

Spoiler

 

And if anyone else knows... is there a notable difference in how travel in the crossroads works for non-elf characters?

Sorry! I just did. I forgot the DLC hasn't been out for long. I edited my post.

 

I haven't tested my Human Inquisitor yet but I thought you see the crossroads differently? Also the mark might help while walking through them~



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I just looked at my screenshots. :mellow:


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regarding my post up there:

SPOILERS DONT CLICK

Spoiler

It was more than a beautiful post,much more,and also i honestly believe that the writers come often to visit this forum,so it is beautiful that there are fan like you who are perfectly capable to grasp the non yet secure info,long before that they are "canonized"It's just show that there is a planning in DA unlike the Mass effect series.



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I have so many pages to read to catch up!  I stayed away until I finished.

I have some thoughts and feelings.  I'll write them down later.

 



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*shrug* Just my observations.

 

 

 

Case and point.

 

Masculine and "Badass" (even if morally degenerate) = good.

 

Perceived softer, gentler, more vulnerable (like historically oppressed slaves) = bad.

 

 

I also have a theory that modern fantasy elves are generally dislike hated because they threaten people's perceptions of humanity. If elves are shown to be morally equal or superior to humans, it threatens a commonly held belief that humans are so freaking awesome that we're the best race ever, both in the real world and any fictional world, so they automatically hate elves or pick the elves' faults apart to reassure themselves that humanity is still the best.

 

I think a lot of the hatred of Thedas elves also comes from suppressed guilt. Yes, Thedas elves are oppressed victims, but humans are the oppressors. Admitting that the elves deserve better means admitting that humanity did wrong (and that there's something fundamentally flawed with humans that we oppressed and destroy everything we can't control), so it's easier to assure themselves that elves suck, elves deserve their fate, elves did the same to each other, elves would do the same in human shoes, etc. etc.

 

I mean, given some of the revelations in The Masked Empire and Dragon Age Inquisition alone, it's amazing how many people jump to say, "See? The elves oppressed each other, so that makes it okay for us to oppress them!"

 

I guess this is why I like Elves.

 

I will now make a confession that I have not made anywhere else (you all should be honored !) and it is this:- I have never really felt a very strong human bond with a lot of other humans and I find it hard to relate to many other humans. In fact I tend to call humans sometimes for no reason, as ****** Sapiens as though I am something else, something different. (Why the f**k is the work H**o censored ?! Bioware this political correctness is crazy)

 

I do not hate other humans but I am indifferent to them. I prefer books, gadgetry, knowledge, toys, cats and dogs over people, you know ? I like some people but the circle is small and the people are like are in some way, like me. They share a hobby with me or a philosophical viewpoint or a cause of sorts. Otherwise I am indifferent. Polite but ultimately indifferent.

 

It also helps that I am 5'5" / 1.65m in height and 127 pounds / 58 kg in weight. So I am short and thin, not tall and muscular like other men. I do have lots of hair though, comes with being an Asian Indian.

 

That is why I think I like playing as an Elf in fantasy games. Because they are indifferent introverts who prefer to pursue scholarly pursuits or artistic pursuits or what have you and because they are not big buff people.


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Ha. And then there's this...

 

 

 

*wipes Oreo crumbs off shirt*

*cracks knuckles*

So Trespasser spoilers, naturally.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

If we produce enough eyebrow mods, he will be summoned. :D

omg out of likes. This. 


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This might feel like a low blow, but...

 

No. But not tagging it as a spoiler is. Maybe go back and do that? We're all doing pretty good here, but thanks for thinking about us. ;) 



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I guess this is why I like Elves.

 

I will now make a confession that I have not made anywhere else (you all should be honored !) and it is this:- I have never really felt a very strong human bond with a lot of other humans and I find it hard to relate to many other humans. In fact I tend to call humans sometimes for no reason, as ****** Sapiens as though I am something else, something different. (Why the f**k is the work H**o censored ?! Bioware this political correctness is crazy)

 

I do not hate other humans but I am indifferent to them. I prefer books, gadgetry, knowledge, toys, cats and dogs over people, you know ? I like some people but the circle is small and the people are like are in some way, like me. They share a hobby with me or a philosophical viewpoint or a cause of sorts. Otherwise I am indifferent. Polite but ultimately indifferent.

 

It also helps that I am 5'5" / 1.65m in height and 127 pounds / 58 kg in weight. So I am short and thin, not tall and muscular like other men. I do have lots of hair though, comes with being an Asian Indian.

 

That is why I think I like playing as an Elf in fantasy games. Because they are indifferent introverts who prefer to pursue scholarly pursuits or artistic pursuits or what have you and because they are not big buff people.

 

I can understand you so well! I, myself, am just 5'1''/1.55m in height and I weigh around 55 kg. People oftentimes overlook me or don't take me seriously, at best I am seen as "That sweet, cute little girl that could do nothing wrong." - it kind of really sucks sometimes. I loves games, weird fan articles like figures or pendants etc, I want to become a game designer one day, love drawing and writing. I do enjoy the contact with other humans and I was very, very lonely for a long time in my life, until I finally found good friends. Still, there aren't a lot of people that have experienced what I have experienced in my short life (I turn 19 this month) and even fewer that I can openly talk with about all of the things that I really want to discuss.

 

My issue isn't that I don't want to be open towards others, it's just that I am pretty introverted and while I do not judge people easily (I really try not to judge people and I am a very compassionate person) I am still very wary of others. Sadly, I am almost always right with trying to determine how certain people function. Just a few days ago I finally broke completely away from a guy who I had a crush on over a year ago. I never had a relationship with him, but still wanted to reach out to him and be a good friend. I really, really cared about him, but he hurt me over and over again over a span of roughly three years. It doesn't even hurt me anymore that he treated me so badly, it just hurts that I was right about everything once again.

 

So yeah, I really love elven people in fiction, be it the Lord of the Rings or video games or books. Elves always seem to have some sort of mystery surrounding them, they are artistic and free and wonderful in their entire being. They might be feminine, more feminine at least than other races, but they are my favourite race of all 'modern' fantasy races. They often carry a whole lot of knowledge with them, too, which I love. I'm always trying to learn new things - be it another drawing technique or another language. Hah, elves are great. At least I think so. =)



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What we need is Thranduil. He'd solve this elf dilema.

Or Iorveth. :D


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Sorry for being off-topic!

 

Skimming the last few pages I see some talk of PoE, Aloth, Eder and Matt Mercer.

If you want to see just how great this guy is Critical Role is for you.  It also features voice actors like Laura Bailey, Ashley Johnson, and Liam O'Brien.  I am totally addicted to it. 

 

http://geekandsundry.../critical-role/

(It's a Dungeon and Dragons show featuring voice actors that are also friends.  They've been doing this campaign for about 2-3 years.)