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[AllThatJazz]

@Solas

 

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I'll admit I'm somewhat at a loss on how to reach a man that doesn't want to be found and has access to eluvian (and thus places like the crossroad that we can't reach at all). I think maybe her plan might be to start the ball rolling on changes that even he can't ignore. Tevinter gives us an opportunity for a slave revolt of the kind that shakes an Empire. Become the Dread Wolf of the Dragon Age. Draw his gaze away from his plan and to what you're doing, while on the side you have your own people trying to infiltrate his organization to gather information.

 

Solas in his current state power-wise can't be approached directly for a confrontation. So, the Inquisitor needs to find a way he doesn't expect so she can draw him into the open.

 

Lavellan has "changed everything" once for him. She will do it again. And again, however many times it takes to make him see this world has worth saving.

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That's not only really good, but actually kind of likely. We pretty much know that Tevinter is our next destination. Dorian and Maevaris are already positioned there as allies, and Dorian's views on slavery have become more enlightened since joining the Inquisition - partly due to some of his conversations with Solas. Huh. What if, in the Save Solas campaign, it's about trying to show him that the 'God' of Rebellion has a place in Thedas, that he belongs here as much as he belonged in Elvenhan. Rebellions all over the place - led by Sera, Dorian, Bull (maybe), with Inquisitor behind the scenes - all instigated by former comrades of the Dread Wolf. That would have to have some kind of positive effect on the guy? .. Hopefully?

 

Whereas in the 'stop solas' campaign, it could be more about stabilising these places so they can be allies in the upcoming fight?

[Delphine]

Patch that Solas needs on his backpack asap.

 

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[BoscoBread]

This is just my headcanon as far as what my girl would do, but-

 

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First, disband the Inquisition. Solas is too good at attacking large power structures, and we've already been burned once. Trim down staff to the barest of bare bones. Everyone who remains apart of the plan needs to be completely trustworthy. Most of the elves already in the Inquisition will probably need to be let go. That'll make some enemies, but hopefully most of them will just think we're shutting down anyway. 

 

Tevinter is a smart move forward. It is the culture closest to Arlathan, and they absorbed almost all of their magic tech from elves. Have Dorian see what he can find with his shiny new rank. Meanwhile, once word of elves leaving start to appear- visit a few camps. See if anything can be learned about the rumors going on. But don't recruit anyone. With the exception of someone who can be 100% vouched for [like Merrill], they can't be trusted. 

 

Reach out to powerful people who don't want to have their world exploded. Morrigan for certain- she's an expert on elven culture and not an elf herself. We also know that she's fiercely protective of her son, and will not support anything that could potentially put him in danger. Yara probably wouldn't give her all of the info she has, but Morrigan is definitely worth setting off to investigate on her own.

 

Also send a team to the temple of Mythal, hunt down any of the remaining ancient elves. If we can actually manage to get ahold of one- interrogate them, and don't let them out of your sight. 

 

Then call some favors. Orlais and Fereldan want the Inquisition disbanded? Sure! But, we're going to need some money in exchange for surrendering our holdings. To cover severance payments, and whatever else we want to make up. However, we use a vast majority of that money to give to elves in difficult situations. These elves are going to be prime targets to want to follow the Dread Wolf. Hell, make that your whole cover story. You're using your former position to help elves. 

 

Hopefully, at this point one plan will have had some results. Rumors, something. If all else fails? See if Solas can ever be baited. Look up potential methods of trapping someone with strong magical powers through use of seekers, or even the spirits. But don't trust spirits too much, as there's a good chance they'll feed information back to Solas.

 

And while she doesn't want to kill him- figure out as much as can be found about how the evanuris killed Mythal. 

 Yes to all of this - Also - regarding the bolded

[Moondreamer01]

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Shooting up the breeze here, as I doubt very much that anything like that would ever happen in game, but imagine an Inquisitor willing to go to any lenght to save the man she loves. Any, even becoming a monster herself. Well, we already know Solas wants people to have some peace in the time they have left, thus his working in the wings to stop the Qunari.

 

Now, imagine an Inquisitor playing on that weakness... and start a war. Make herself the target of all eyes. The Inquisitor gone mad after the anchor was taken away. Set herself/himself as the ultimate villain as to force Solas to intervene to stop him/her and give those people the peace he wants to give. So... by making him/herself the monster, she forces Solas in the role of the savior in the hope that making him a part of this world again and have a stake in restoring peace, he'll be forced to feel for Thedas' people and so finally drop his own plan.

 

Suicidal and with little chance of succeeding perhaps, but I like contemplating possibilities lol

[Solas]

MIMS that is RAD

[Mims]

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Shooting upthe breeze here, as I doubt very much that anything like that would ever happen in game, but imagine an Inquisitor willing to go to any lenght to save the man she loves. Any, even becoming a monster herself. Well, we already know Solas wants people to have some peace in the time they have left, thus his working in the wings to stop the Qunari.

 

Now, imagine an Inquisitor playing on that weakness... and start a war. Make herself the target of all eyes. The Inquisitor gone mad after the anchor was taken away. Set herself/himself as the ultimate villain as to force Solas to intervene to stop him/her and give those people the peace he wants to give. So... by making him/herself the monster, she forces Solas in the role of the savior in the hope that making him a part of this world again and have a stake in restoring peace, he'll be forced to feel of Thedas' people and so finally drop his own plan.

 

Suicidal and with little chance of succeeding perhaps, but I like contemplating possibilities lol

 

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Main problem with that is its more likely someone else is going to kill you before Solas even starts agonizing over the decision to intervene. :[ 

 

I'd personally do the opposite, if we want to go crazy. Name yourself the new queen of the dales or something, distract elves from any rumors of dread wolves. Elves clearly need a leader- that's the only reason they are leaving their homes on the rumor of a dread wolf gathering forces.

 

If you present yourself as a real, tangible figure- then you could amass a small army. Only problem is you're going to be infested with spies, and there's no assurance Solas even needs all the elves to pull of his plan. It just might be cushioning. 

[AllThatJazz]

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Shooting up the breeze here, as I doubt very much that anything like that would ever happen in game, but imagine an Inquisitor willing to go to any lenght to save the man she loves. Any, even becoming a monster herself. Well, we already know Solas wants people to have some peace in the time they have left, thus his working in the wings to stop the Qunari.

 

Now, imagine an Inquisitor playing on that weakness... and start a war. Make herself the target of all eyes. The Inquisitor gone mad after the anchor was taken away. Set herself/himself as the ultimate villain as to force Solas to intervene to stop him/her and give those people the peace he wants to give. So... by making him/herself the monster, she forces Solas in the role of the savior in the hope that making him a part of this world again and have a stake in restoring peace, he'll be forced to feel of Thedas' people and so finally drop his own plan.

 

Suicidal and with little chance of succeeding perhaps, but I like contemplating possibilities lol

Yes yes yes, this is similar to something I was thinking (equally unlikely but who cares).

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The Inquisition fabricates a new Big Bad to go after the Dalish, forcing them to seek protection from Fen'Harel. Depending on how far you're prepared to go, this will involve some pretty nasty attacks against the Elves. He helps, out of self-interest (more lambs to the slaughter or whatever), but in defending them it effects a sea-change in how they see him. He suddenly isn;t the enemy any more. They start looking to him as a kind of father figure, and he begins to realise that they are, basically his 'children'. The children of a horrible mistaken one night stand, sure, but still - he has a responsibility to them.

 

 

Totally never happening!

[Vorathrad]

Finally caught up! I run out of likes in the way, but have a bunch of collective likes, great discussion everyone     

 

 

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I think, or rather it's wishful thinking, that the way to confront Solas may have to do a lot with the dwarves. Like some of you pointed out, darwes and the Titans seem to be the other side of the coin to elves and the Fade. Also we got tons of lore in Trespasser concerning elves (no complaints here, I'm so elfy-elf I think Sera's pixels slowly disintegrate when I play), but none about dwarves and the big revelations in Descent save the bit about elves waging war on dwarves. Maybe because after Solas drew the Veil elves wanted to control lyrium as source for their magic? 

 

I hope we can ally with Valta and say to Solas "Vhenan, either you come to bed already or I throw this titan to your head. You can't turn him to stone, you see"

[Moondreamer01]

Yes yes yes, this is similar to something I was thinking (equally unlikely but who cares).

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The Inquisition fabricates a new Big Bad to go after the Dalish, forcing them to seek protection from Fen'Harel. He helps, out of self-interest (more lambs to the slaughter or whatever), but in defending them it effects a sea-change in how they see him. He suddenly isn;t the enemy any more. They start looking to him as a kind of father figure, and he begins to realise that they are, basically his 'children'. The children of a horrible mistaken one night stand, sure, but still - he has a responsibility to them.

 

 

Totally never happening!

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LOL. I love the one-night stand analogy. Made me snicker

[Eurowande]

ok here is my fanfic

WARNING  its sad, its really sad, also Trespasser spoilers

i just had this idea for 2 days and i just had to get it out of my head or i was going to go crazy

Also excuse me for any errors English is not native for me

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She found him, she finally found him. She though of praying that shes not too late, but then laughed bitterly, there was no one to pray too. Her so called gods wasnt gods at all. It all have been a lie , one of many . But now she knew the trouth. After crestwood she though that letting Solas remove the blood writings from her face was a mistake and it hurted her for a long time, but now that she know what her ' gods' truely was she was proud she did it. Pride, the word hurts, it was his name.
She hurried cursing herself it was so obvious Skyhold, the place where the sky was held back, he said it himself long ago - the veil was old there, and there is elven magic sleeping under the castle. After she decide to disbanded the Inquisition they left Skyhold , now she knew this was the place the veil was created and it was the place he was thinking to tear it down. It had been 3 long years, tracking the Dread Wolf wasnt easy. If it wasnt for Dorian and his tevinter friends they was never going to be able to make it, but they did, despite all odds she tricked the trickster .She was so close to seeing him again it was almost painful. The others was behind her, it wasnt easy to convince them, but in the end they agree. They was giving her half an hour so she can try and talk him out of this , then if she fail they was going to stop him even if this was meaning to kill him , and some of them really wanted to kill him. But she begged over and over again and they agreed thats all she needed.
She was running she was almost sure where she will find him - in the rutonda. When she reach it her heart almost stoped she was late he was casting the sell already. No she can not fail , not now.
'Solas, Solas please.'
He turn slowly , shock clear on his face.
'Vhenan, what...what are you doing here, you should not be here, you will die.'
'Im going to die anyway Solas, i prefer to do it looking at you, knowing how you betray me'
She almost regret saying, the pain written on his face was too much to bare , but she had, she was going to stop him even it mean lying to him.
'I ...Im sorry' Solas closed his eyes, for a moment she though all is lost.
It felt like the time stoped, it was almost hard to breath she felt like all this magic is making the air like stone. And then it all stop. She didnt had time to be happy, she saw Solas colapsing on his knees . She run to him , hugging him to her chest.
'Ir abelas vhenan, i hope you will find happiness one day, and may be one day we will meet in another world'
'Solas, no !!! Please vhenan, ill save you no matter what it cost me ill save you. I didnt spend so much time searching for you to loose you now' But even saying this her tears was falling, he was dying and she knew it.
'There is nothing you can do , my love... i made my choice and im finally at peace with myself, I could not bare the though of you dying in my hands'
'Why, why cant we both live'
' If i did finish my spell it was going to kill you, but i was almost done with it, slowing so much power back is what is killing me, im sorry vhenan, my heart. You did prove me wrong' He tried to reach her with his hand but then he went still. Fen'Harel, The Dread Wolf was dead , in the end he choose his love.
Lavellan kept hugging his body and crying, in the end she was just hugging him. Thats how the other found them. Dorian cried in despair for Lavellan was dead, her vhenan had died , and her own heart had stop beating not long after.
Her friends was safe but no one found any joy in this victory.

[cleosilver]

I was sorting through all my DAI video clips and was reminded about this comment my Fem!Lavellan made:

 

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Solas: "What will you do with the power of the Well once Corypheus is dead?"

Inquisitor: "I'll use whatever power I have to undo the chaos that Corypheus and his allies have caused."

Solas: "You would put things back to they way they were before?"

Inquisitor: "Yes, I mean... Not exactly"

Solas: "I know what you mean. Thank you."

Inquisitor: "For what?"

Solas: "You have not been what I expected Inquisitor. You have, impressed me. You honour the past and work to recover what was lost, even if the cost is high. I respect that and I am indebted to you for reminding me."

 

IT WAS ALL MY FAULT GUYS.

I REGRET EVERYTHING.

 

 

 

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Not just your fault. My Lavellan said that too.  And she regrets nothing. Let the world burn in chaos and flames and bring back ELVHEN GLORY. Her elves are a dying race anyway.

 

[NightSymphony]

Little art break

 

Gave her a castle...B*tches love castles

http://dark-umeko.de...venan-559597781

 

Solas and Lavallen...cute little Anime hug.

http://sugikon.devia...ellan-559581150

 

Vanity Fair - Solas looks pretty good in a tux

http://virberrocal.d...ragon-559631518

 

 

SPOILER!!!!!!

http://uuyly.deviant...las-2-559567595

[Illyria]

my dad lmfao

 

Tell your dad we said hi.

 

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Hopefully we would get to choose what kind of Elf we are rather than being stuck as a Dalish again.

 

We were lucky to be able to play as an elf at all in this game.

 

I think I could spend hours just reading everything people write on here. Heck, I already do spend hours reading all the theories people have. Solas fans really are the best  ​

 

*hugs*

 

Finished Trespasser this morning, woooooo! You know, it sure would have been a lot easier if

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Lavellan's vhenan had told the guardians that he was expecting visitors. It sure would have been awkward if one of his goons had killed the inquisitor.

Like, I get that he wanted her to solve the Qunari threat on her own, because autonomy is his jam. But adding indiscriminate killbots to the mix is just making it more difficult for no reason, haha.

I also really liked that there was a codex about

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the dreadnought. What its name was, how big the crew was, etc. Touching on that theme of how easy it is to do horrible things to "them" for the sake of "us". The People are Solas' Chargers.

But mainly,

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T-T that last scene was hard, in a good way. His stubbornness. The way he says he isn't a monster one breath after explaining how he'll ("most likely") destroy the world. He keeps hammering on how getting to know the inquisitor made it harder to contemplate his mission, so secretly I'm hoping that will turn into second thoughts at some point? Who knows, maybe his followers have enough momentum that he can't even turn the ship around anymore. *sigh*

The whole time I was bouncing between "is that a seed of doubt I hear?" and "I feel like I'm in an ant farm, looking up through the glass." I had big expectations for this DLC, but I wasn't prepared for how delicately they'd capture that confusion and dread. Solas is so alien, so palpably ancient, I could barely stand it.

Out of all the DLCs and base games, Trespasser may be my favorite.

 

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If you drink from the Well you can just walk past those guys.

I really like your description of how Solas' mission is like Demands of the Qun. There's actually a lot of cases in DAI where the question of 'what would you sacrifice to keep the people you love safe'. There's Crestwood's Mayor who floods the village to save his people, the owner of the mine in Sarnia who sells the sick and eldary to the Red Templars to protect the many, Bull's sacrifce of his people to save the Chargers.

 

 Yes to all of this - Also - regarding the bolded

 

You just want to be the one to do the interrogating.

 

This is just my headcanon as far as what my girl would do, but-

 

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First, disband the Inquisition. Solas is too good at attacking large power structures, and we've already been burned once. Trim down staff to the barest of bare bones. Everyone who remains apart of the plan needs to be completely trustworthy. Most of the elves already in the Inquisition will probably need to be let go. That'll make some enemies, but hopefully most of them will just think we're shutting down anyway. 

 

Tevinter is a smart move forward. It is the culture closest to Arlathan, and they absorbed almost all of their magic tech from elves. Have Dorian see what he can find with his shiny new rank. Meanwhile, once word of elves leaving start to appear- visit a few camps. See if anything can be learned about the rumors going on. But don't recruit anyone. With the exception of someone who can be 100% vouched for [like Merrill], they can't be trusted. 

 

Reach out to powerful people who don't want to have their world exploded. Morrigan for certain- she's an expert on elven culture and not an elf herself. We also know that she's fiercely protective of her son, and will not support anything that could potentially put him in danger. Yara probably wouldn't give her all of the info she has, but Morrigan is definitely worth setting off to investigate on her own.

 

Also send a team to the temple of Mythal, hunt down any of the remaining ancient elves. If we can actually manage to get ahold of one- interrogate them, and don't let them out of your sight. 

 

Then call some favors. Orlais and Fereldan want the Inquisition disbanded? Sure! But, we're going to need some money in exchange for surrendering our holdings. To cover severance payments, and whatever else we want to make up. However, we use a vast majority of that money to give to elves in difficult situations. These elves are going to be prime targets to want to follow the Dread Wolf. Hell, make that your whole cover story. You're using your former position to help elves. 

 

Hopefully, at this point one plan will have had some results. Rumors, something. If all else fails? See if Solas can ever be baited. Look up potential methods of trapping someone with strong magical powers through use of seekers, or even the spirits. But don't trust spirits too much, as there's a good chance they'll feed information back to Solas.

 

And while she doesn't want to kill him- figure out as much as can be found about how the evanuris killed Mythal. 

 

Quoting so I can basically give this a second like.

[drosophila]

My flimsy shot at a strategy.

 

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Keep the Inquisition running as a false target to give his spies something to do. Do small retirement-type operations, occasioanlly insterspersed with more significant peace keeping missions to give the impression you're living well while time remains. 

 

On the side, assemble a separate shadow organization composed of your most trusted people. Find someone you trust whom Fen'Harel does not know and put them in charge as the figurehead, while you take a mid-level rank and act as an 'advisor' behind the scenes. 

 

Your goals are:

 

1. Find him.

2. Draw him out.

3. Find some way to convince him. Remember you've already given him your sincere love and friendship and that made him regret what he must do, but it didn't change his actions. So you need to do more than that. 

 

1. This is the toughest thing for me to figure out, but the best I can come up with is: Cast a wide net with as many sources as you can. Keep close ties with the nobility to detect the slightest chance of his meddling in Thedas politics. Scout the elven ruins nonstop. Use Tevinter mages and their ability to control spirits to interrogate spirits who may have seen him. (You'll have to use blood magic, bind, and potentially kill a few spirits, sorry. How far are you willing to go with this?) Keep close watch on the slaves, I bet many of them will be his agents. Also, if it's been several years and he still hasn't carried out his plan, there's something he needs: Is it a magical artefact? Is it a particular blood ritual that he's gathering people for sacrifice? Anything that can be used to enter the fade physically. If there's knowledge about it , it will be in Tevinter.

 

2. Once you find out what he needs, you need to get to it first. The artefact, the specific place and time for the blood ritual, etc., get there before he does.

 

3. So I think the best way to reform him would be to strip him of his power. You made some progress with him in Skyhold and convinced him to view Thedosians as people while he was there in his weakened state. While he is acting as Fen'Harel, he will be intentionally steeling himself, and there would be little you can say or do. So, use your connections to the Chantry and have a crapload of templars and seekers. They helped seal the Breach which was his magic. Then can help neutralize him now, but you probably need three times as many. You'll have to pump those guys chock full of lyrium, sorry. Have an army of mages ready to also help dispell him. Hope you were on good terms with Vivienne. Finally, you will need Morrigan to take Mythal's power from him. 

 

Once he has been stripped of power, don't imprision him or do anything cruel like that, it will only ahrden his heart more against people. Assign him to doing some research to re-create some of those ancient elven worders he misses into the current world. 

 

If all fails, be ready to make the choice whether to kill him or tell him that Thedas can burn and pelad to be with him once more. 

 

[Wulfram]

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You know what I think was missing in that last scene? Jokes. My Lavellan would have laughed at the irony of the situation. Something like:

-Oh I can't wait to tell the Keeper
 
or
 
-Oh by the way, congratz, you're  a dad now.
- What?
- Just kidding.
 
You see the general idea.

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Solas: What is the old dalish curse, "may the Dread Wolf take you?"
Inquisitor: Well I didn't want to say anything at the time, but it was kind of disappointing

Hey, pettiness can be fun

[roselavellan]

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That, and the way he said "I know, Vhenan, but we are running out of time."

 

 

GDL's voice acting is incredible.

 

 

 

 

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We're lucky that Solas was so well written and so well performed in Trespasser. In lesser hands, we would have been raging with fury at what is essentially... not actually an ending

[Solas]

Illyria lmao I will! ^^

[Avejajed]

I KNOW VHENAN PLS

 

*ugly sobs*

 

[Moondreamer01]

My flimsy shot at a strategy.

 

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Keep the Inquisition running as a false target to give his spies something to do. Do small retirement-type operations, occasioanlly insterspersed with more significant peace keeping missions to give the impression you're living well while time remains. 

 

On the side, assemble a separate shadow organization composed of your most trusted people. Find someone you trust whom Fen'Harel does not know and put them in charge as the figurehead, while you take a mid-level rank and act as an 'advisor' behind the scenes. 

 

Your goals are:

 

1. Find him.

2. Draw him out.

3. Find some way to convince him. Remember you've already given him your sincere love and friendship and that made him regret what he must do, but it didn't change his actions. So you need to do more than that. 

 

1. This is the toughest thing for me to figure out, but the best I can come up with is: Cast a wide net with as many sources as you can. Keep close ties with the nobility to detect the slightest chance of his meddling in Thedas politics. Scout the elven ruins nonstop. Use Tevinter mages and their ability to control spirits to interrogate spirits who may have seen him. (You'll have to use blood magic, bind, and potentially kill a few spirits, sorry. How far are you willing to go with this?) Keep close watch on the slaves, I bet many of them will be his agents. Also, if it's been several years and he still hasn't carried out his plan, there's something he needs: Is it a magical artefact? Is it a particular blood ritual that he's gathering people for sacrifice? Anything that can be used to enter the fade physically. If there's knowledge about it , it will be in Tevinter.

 

2. Once you find out what he needs, you need to get to it first. The artefact, the specific place and time for the blood ritual, etc., get there before he does.

 

3. So I think the best way to reform him would be to strip him of his power. You made some progress with him in Skyhold and convinced him to view Thedosians as people while he was there in his weakened state. While he is acting as Fen'Harel, he will be intentionally steeling himself, and there would be little you can say or do. So, use your connections to the Chantry and have a crapload of templars and seekers. They helped seal the Breach which was his magic. Then can help neutralize him now, but you probably need three times as many. You'll have to pump those guys chock full of lyrium, sorry. Have an army of mages ready to also help dispell him. Hope you were on good terms with Vivienne. Finally, you will need Morrigan to take Mythal's power from him. 

 

Once he has been stripped of power, don't imprision him or do anything cruel like that, it will only ahrden his heart more against people. Assign him to doing some research to re-create some of those ancient elven worders he misses into the current world. 

 

If all fails, be ready to make the choice whether to kill him or tell him that Thedas can burn and pelad to be with him once more. 

 

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That is actually awesome and very well rounded. I love it. 

 

I wonder if the Cass and the Seeker working on their cure for Tranquility could somehow help with finding an alternate strategy to bringing the veil down all at once. After all, that cure involves bringing the Tranquil's connection to the fade back. It's deadly for now, as seen in Pharamond losing his mind, but there might be ways to refine it so it's not anymore.

 

I think part of any strategy going forward should include researches on an alternate strategy to Solas' end of the world scenario.

[drosophila]

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That is actually awesome and very well rounded. I love it. 

 

I wonder if the Cass and the Seeker working on their cure for TRanquility could somehow help with finding an alternate strategy to bringing the veil down all at once. After all, that cure involve bringing the TRanquil's connect to the fade back. It's deadly for now, as seen in Pharamond losing his mind, but there might be ways to refine it so it's not anymore.

 

I think part of any strategy going forward should include researches on an alternate strategy to Solas' end fo the world scenario.

 

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Agree, researching an alternative is good, but might be a more long-term goal. You can even have him do research on that once the initial threat of him ending the world has been neutralized.

[Solas]

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I think one of gryffs moves would be hunt eluvians and smash any she finds

yea is horrible sad loss of ancient elven culture but solas and his ppl will use them to get around

she'd try to hamstring him that way as much as possible. tactical

[BoscoBread]

My flimsy shot at a strategy.

 

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Keep the Inquisition running as a false target to give his spies something to do. Do small retirement-type operations, occasioanlly insterspersed with more significant peace keeping missions to give the impression you're living well while time remains. 

 

On the side, assemble a separate shadow organization composed of your most trusted people. Find someone you trust whom Fen'Harel does not know and put them in charge as the figurehead, while you take a mid-level rank and act as an 'advisor' behind the scenes. 

 

Your goals are:

 

1. Find him.

2. Draw him out.

3. Find some way to convince him. Remember you've already given him your sincere love and friendship and that made him regret what he must do, but it didn't change his actions. So you need to do more than that. 

 

1. This is the toughest thing for me to figure out, but the best I can come up with is: Cast a wide net with as many sources as you can. Keep close ties with the nobility to detect the slightest chance of his meddling in Thedas politics. Scout the elven ruins nonstop. Use Tevinter mages and their ability to control spirits to interrogate spirits who may have seen him. (You'll have to use blood magic, bind, and potentially kill a few spirits, sorry. How far are you willing to go with this?) Keep close watch on the slaves, I bet many of them will be his agents. Also, if it's been several years and he still hasn't carried out his plan, there's something he needs: Is it a magical artefact? Is it a particular blood ritual that he's gathering people for sacrifice? Anything that can be used to enter the fade physically. If there's knowledge about it , it will be in Tevinter.

 

2. Once you find out what he needs, you need to get to it first. The artefact, the specific place and time for the blood ritual, etc., get there before he does.

 

3. So I think the best way to reform him would be to strip him of his power. You made some progress with him in Skyhold and convinced him to view Thedosians as people while he was there in his weakened state. While he is acting as Fen'Harel, he will be intentionally steeling himself, and there would be little you can say or do. So, use your connections to the Chantry and have a crapload of templars and seekers. They helped seal the Breach which was his magic. Then can help neutralize him now, but you probably need three times as many. You'll have to pump those guys chock full of lyrium, sorry. Have an army of mages ready to also help dispell him. Hope you were on good terms with Vivienne. Finally, you will need Morrigan to take Mythal's power from him. 

 

Once he has been stripped of power, don't imprision him or do anything cruel like that, it will only ahrden his heart more against people. Assign him to doing some research to re-create some of those ancient elven worders he misses into the current world. 

 

If all fails, be ready to make the choice whether to kill him or tell him that Thedas can burn and pelad to be with him once more. 

 

 

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Really interesting - and you bring up a neat thought. I thought the Templar/Mage choice was just lazy writing(the way it was done) but I think it may actually play into what happens. If you keep the Templar Order and have the Seekers AND end up fighting a crap-load of actual mages -- mages who potentially never had to fight them before(dreamers).  You may have an actual advantage.  

 

I think the game is setting up the end of magic in someway -- at least the magic that is shown in the series.  History has shown an entire society of mages is really not stable. Yello Elvhenan and Tevinter.  To what we have now...not great and the story is now setting up that a war between mages is brewing AGAIN.   This is pure pure speculation but I wonder if the next game may be the last of this incarnation of Dragon Age.  Like if they continue with the series it would be "something else Age" with a downplay on magic. AN emphasis on technology.

[MoonDrummer]

 

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I think one of gryffs moves would be hunt eluvians and smash any she finds

yea is horrible sad loss of ancient elven culture but solas and his ppl will use them to get around

she'd try to hamstring him that way as much as possible. tactical

 

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Or find them all and hang them over the lava pit in Orzammar.