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[Caddius]

Adrian it is. Dark hair. Green eyes, Cad? You choose. But isn't there already an Adrian in Dragon Age? Speaking of names my parents didn't name me, I begged as a child to change my name to Crystal Light Smith

No idea.

I'd say dark blue or green, personally.

Technically, there's an Adrian. But if you fite her in real life, there can only be one. And she's kind of an ass.

[ChuChu]

 

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If it makes you feel better, I strongly believe the ending leaves the door wide open to the continuation of the Inquisitor's journey in some shape, whoever it is they did or didn't romance. We're just not sure how yet. also, Patrick Weeked tweeted something about the fact that Solavellan might get real closure in the future, so long as there are new games (considering DA4 hasn't been greenlit yet, but that Mike Laidlaw didn'T seem worried about it in one of his interviews, don't remember which) 

 

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I feel your feels. I refuse to accept that it's the end until Bioware themselves declare it so. It just seems a bit silly to me that our Inquisitor's story would end the way it did though. Stab map, "we're going here." and then that's it? Okay time for the next person to take over? That just seems off to me. Our Inquisitor, regardless of being a Solasmancer/Lavellan or not has the most influence on Solas, we know the most about him and in my opinion, we're the most capable of stopping him (either through force or diplomacy)

 

*waves team optimism flag*

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I really your guys' optimism, it does make me feel loads better! Thank you! I share your hopes. And I really want to believe we get to continue the Inquisitor's story.... They were a great protagonist. And yes, they have the best sway over Solas! -waves her freshly washed team optimism flag-

[Eurowande]

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wow i was going to assign Michel de Chevin and leliana choice is to get him working with Solas on the eluvians - i was like HELL NO , no help from me on this one Solas

[Moondreamer01]

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That...would actually make a great DA4.
His banter with Dorian even has him dismissive of Dorian's protest that he, y'know, probably can't free ALL of the slaves in the Imperium.
So we counter his grandiose plan by proving that we mortals can end the Arlathan style society and slavery without resorting to death and magical mayhem. All with Dorian and Maevaris as snarky political backing.
I love it.

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Awww, thanks! I was trying to do the "What would the Dragon Age writers would do" thinking, so not going toward scenario that would be impractical to implement in game, and also that could work for different types of Inquisitors. I'm probably far from anything they actually have in mind, though, eh.

[AutumnOracle]

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wow i was going to assign Michel de Chevin and leliana choice is to get him working with Solas on the eluvians - i was like HELL NO , no help from me on this one Solas

Yeah I did this right before I started my playthrough.  I was like YES! YES!

 

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We totally need to research those eluvians. Briala can't be the only one!  Then I was like .  However I will hope that maybe with that knowledge we might have some ability to traverse the eluvians if need be.

[Caddius]

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Hopefully we would get to choose what kind of Elf we are rather than being stuck as a Dalish again.

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Since the next game seems to be set in Tevinter, (assuming that our new protagonist/sidekick is also from Tevinter) there aren't any Dalish clans in Tevinter.
I can't imagine why not.  

[Cee]

Adrian it is. Dark hair. Green eyes, Cad? You choose. But isn't there already an Adrian in Dragon Age? Speaking of names my parents didn't name me, I begged as a child to change my name to Crystal Light Smith

No idea.

 

I used to wish I had the name Starlight, among others.

 

 

I'd say dark blue or green, personally.

Technically, there's an Adrian. But if you fite her in real life, there can only be one. And she's kind of an ass.

 

I wonder what might have been if they had included her on the mage side in DAI.

 

[Avejajed]

I only fite Illyria in real life.

[caridounette]

About the big plan going forward

 

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Im not sure I want my Lavellan and Solas playing a game of chess with people/agents/spies for too long, considering solas is way more inclined to sacrificing his pieces. Plus I think pushing him into a corner might just get his nasty side to show more. Like him endangering people so you go save them and let him escape. (I dont want him to become a villain. Thats the one thing that was so well written about him).  

 

 

Plus Im not sure about taking his powers away. I think Solas would prefer to die then being cut from the Fade. He was so against changing Cole. Anyway, he would not be the same person after.

 

So how about helping him tear the Veil in a smoother manner? Set things up so the Veil fades away over hundred of years would let people adapt to it, and living with spirits. He could guide them into a peaceful relationship and all. So he gets to undo his error, and he can be a leader, and spend time with Lavellan even if she never gets to live long enough to see the Veil gone.

 

Maybe thats just me beliving there can be a sweet ending (not sure how the Veil works anyway) but it would keep me happy until DA4.

 

[S.W.]

Some thoughts of the Inquisition's approach to Solas post-Trespasser:

 

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Solas, if any of those Fen'Harel legends are even halfway true, likely avoids conflicts of attrition, operating in the shadows as much as possible, attempting to use information to win wars - awareness of enemy supply lines and crucial defenses, knowledge of field (i.e. you do not fight Solas in the crossroads, that's his home turf), and the element of surprise. I bet he's well acquainted with guerilla tactics. So I reckon the best way of defeating him is drawing his forces out into a conflict with another power and exhausting them.

 

The most obvious third power here that they might fight is the qunari. I think I'd try somehow to convince them that Fen'Harel, not Tevinter, is the real threat at play. Even if Solas is clever about what he does, and manages to keep things together when the qunari decide he's the primary target, I think that allows us to sneak into the picture whilst he's convinced the qunari are the more immediate threat, even if not the more important one.

 

I think, whilst the idea of getting a very, very large hammer and walloping his ass with it is fun, it's not the best way to defeat the Dread Wolf. I think you need to outplay him. Downsizing, I think, works for this approach the best. I think infiltration will also be key too - if you want to outsmart him, you need to know what he's doing.

 

I also agree with a few others earlier - whilst I have a love-hate relationship with Tevinter, and would happily smash its government to pieces on a good day, I think Tevinter collapsing could potentially be the worst case scenario. What if elves turn to Fen'Harel, having lost faith in the Magisterium's ability to keep things (including themselves) under control? When the state is in crisis, the populace turns to the political fringes  - the qun, and Fen'Harel, in this case.

[Avejajed]

DELPHINE I NEED YOU

[Illyria]

About the big plan going forward

 

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Im not sure I want my Lavellan and Solas playing a game of chess with people/agents/spies for too long, considering solas is way more inclined to sacrificing his pieces. Plus I think pushing him into a corner might just get his nasty side to show more. Like him endangering people so you go save them and let him escape. (I dont want him to become a villain. Thats the one thing that was so well written about him).  

 

 

Plus Im not sure about taking his powers away. I think Solas would prefer to die then being cut from the Fade. He was so against changing Cole. Anyway, he would not be the same person after.

 

So how about helping him tear the Veil in a smoother manner? Set things up so the Veil fades away over hundred of years would let people adapt to it, and living with spirits. He could guide them into a peaceful relationship and all. So he gets to undo his error, and he can be a leader, and spend time with Lavellan even if she never gets to live long enough to see the Veil gone.

 

Maybe thats just me beliving there can be a sweet ending (not sure how the Veil works anyway) but it would keep me happy until DA4.

 

 

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I want to depower him down to normal mage levels, not remove his magic completely (assuming that could be done without tranquility). I think cutting him off from the Fade would be too much, even as a punishment.

[Cee]

I still don't have any likes left. What is this, forum?

 

 

I only fite Illyria in real life.

[MoonDrummer]

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Has the Grey Wardens going missing thing been dropped?

 

[Moondreamer01]

About the big plan going forward

 

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Im not sure I want my Lavellan and Solas playing a game of chess with people/agents/spies for too long, considering solas is way more inclined to sacrificing his pieces. Plus I think pushing him into a corner might just get his nasty side to show more. Like him endangering people so you go save them and let him escape. (I dont want him to become a villain. Thats the one thing that was so well written about him).  

 

 

Plus Im not sure about taking his powers away. I think Solas would prefer to die then being cut from the Fade. He was so against changing Cole. Anyway, he would not be the same person after.

 

So how about helping him tear the Veil in a smoother manner? Set things up so the Veil fades away over hundred of years would let people adapt to it, and living with spirits. He could guide them into a peaceful relationship and all. So he gets to undo his error, and he can be a leader, and spend time with Lavellan even if she never gets to live long enough to see the Veil gone.

 

Maybe thats just me beliving there can be a sweet ending (not sure how the Veil works anyway) but it would keep me happy until DA4.

 

That would be my ideal ending too, even if I doubt we'll get seomthing this optimistic. I would love to see it happen.

 

Some thoughts of the Inquisition's approach to Solas post-Trespasser:

 

Spoiler

Solas, if any of those Fen'Harel legends are even halfway true, likely avoids conflicts of attrition, operating in the shadows as much as possible, attempting to use information to win wars - awareness of enemy supply lines and crucial defenses, knowledge of field (i.e. you do not fight Solas in the crossroads, that's his home turf), and the element of surprise. I bet he's well acquainted with guerilla tactics. So I reckon the best way of defeating him is drawing his forces out into a conflict with another power and exhausting them.

 

The most obvious third power here that they might fight is the qunari. I think I'd try somehow to convince them that Fen'Harel, not Tevinter, is the real threat at play. Even if Solas is clever about what he does, and manages to keep things together when the qunari decide he's the primary target, I think that allows us to sneak into the picture whilst he's convinced the qunari are the more immediate threat, even if not the more important one.

 

I think, whilst the idea of getting a very, very large hammer and walloping his ass with it is fun, it's not the best way to defeat the Dread Wolf. I think you need to outplay him. Downsizing, I think, works for this approach the best. I think infiltration will also be key too - if you want to outsmart him, you need to know what he's doing.

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Love that idea, but I cringe at the thought that it would mean sacrificing all the elves Solas has drawn to him for the single purpose of weakening him. I'm not sure how well it would work either. You have his troops in gridlock but that doesn't stop Solas himself from putting his plan into action, unless he specifically need his people for that (we talked of a huge blood sacrifice yesterday, which I think is still a possibility as to his plan to enter the fade). If he doesn't specifically need them, we're doing it all for naught though.

[Cee]

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Has the Grey Wardens going missing thing been dropped?

 

 

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Hard to say, but more like glossed over for now.

 

The epilogue cards span a period of at least a couple of years, but we don't know what the time period for DA4 might be yet. So they made them sound like an ending in case, maybe?

 

So, for example, I had Varric mention letters from Hawke and the epilogue card said he served as Viscount with the help of his friend Hawke. Well, for me, Hawke went to Weisshaupt.

 

I wonder if they will address this stuff in a book or in a new game. We do have at least one confirmed novel coming and the Magekiller comic.

[Illyria]

I only fite Illyria in real life.

 

 

DELPHINE I NEED YOU

 

I have no idea what these are in reference to and I am very curious.

 

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Hard to say, but more like glossed over for now.

 

The epilogue cards span a period of at least a couple of years, but we don't know what the time period for DA4 might be yet. So they made them sound like an ending in case, maybe?

 

So, for example, I had Varric mention letters from Hawke and the epilogue card said he served as Viscount with the help of his friend Hawke. Well, for me, Hawke went to Weisshaupt.

 

I wonder if they will address this stuff in a book or in a new game. We do have at least one confirmed novel coming and the Magekiller comic.

 

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Trespasser only really covered the qunari invasion and set up the Solas plot. I got the impression they're saving the Wardens for the main game.

But if Hawke makes it out and Alistair doesn't I am going to be very, very annoyed. I didn't leave Hawke in the Fade for you to die at Weisshaupt, Alistair.

[Caddius]

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Has the Grey Wardens going missing thing been dropped?

 

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I'm guessing they're going to pick it up in a book or DA4 or comic book. Or something. But they're definitely not going to drop it like that. Not with the First Warden investigating something manipulating Wardens throughout the ages, the little surprise in Last Flight, and whatever happened at Weisshaupt with the Warden Civil War.

[Moondreamer01]

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Hard to say, but more like glossed over for now.

 

The epilogue cards span a period of at least a couple of years, but we don't know what the time period for DA4 might be yet. So they made them sound like an ending in case, maybe?

 

So, for example, I had Varric mention letters from Hawke and the epilogue card said he served as Viscount with the help of his friend Hawke. Well, for me, Hawke went to Weisshaupt.

 

I wonder if they will address this stuff in a book or in a new game. We do have at least one confirmed novel coming and the Magekiller comic.

I wonder if they might close the Grey Warden chapter in a book, actually. The Wardens seem to be more or less tengential to the path the overarching plot is going, so I could see them do that with the situation in Weisshaupt.

[Illyria]

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I'm guessing they're going to pick it up in a book or DA4 or comic book. Or something. But they're definitely not going to drop it like that. Not with the First Warden investigating something manipulating Wardens throughout the ages, the little surprise in Last Flight, and whatever happened at Weisshaupt with the Warden Civil War.

 

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I want to find a giant codex on Lisme. I want the entire of the DA fanbase to know about them.

 

And a griffon.

[Sable Rhapsody]

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I'm guessing they're going to pick it up in a book or DA4 or comic book. Or something. But they're definitely not going to drop it like that. Not with the First Warden investigating something manipulating Wardens throughout the ages, the little surprise in Last Flight, and whatever happened at Weisshaupt with the Warden Civil War.

 

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Blackwall makes a very obvious and foreshadow-y point of mentioning the conflict in the Wardens if that's where you send him.  So I think you're right: it's not getting dropped, it's just backburner for now.

 

 

I have no idea what these are in reference to and I am very curious.

 

 

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But if Hawke makes it out and Alistair doesn't I am going to be very, very annoyed. I didn't leave Hawke in the Fade for you to die at Weisshaupt, Alistair.

 

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Seriously.  As much as I would love my Lavellan to get a happy ending (and she certainly deserves it the most of my PCs), it's looking like bittersweet is the best she can do at this point.  Which makes Alistair and Amell my only happy couple in my canon worldstate, since Hawke is dead.  So seriously, BioWare.  They've made it 12 years in-game as of Trespasser, and 6 IRL.  Please don't take them from me   

[Avejajed]

I have no idea what these are in reference to and I am very curious.

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Trespasser only really covered the qunari invasion and set up the Solas plot. I got the impression they're saving the Wardens for the main game.

But if Hawke makes it out and Alistair doesn't I am going to be very, very annoyed. I didn't leave Hawke in the Fade for you to die at Weisshaupt, Alistair.

You I love. Thats why I like to fite you. But I needed Delphine to keep me from fiting someone else!

[Illyria]

You I love. Thats why I like to fite you. But I needed Delphine to keep me from fiting someone else!

 

[Moondreamer01]

You I love. Thats why I like to fite you. But I needed Delphine to keep me from fiting someone else!

Deep breaths are needed Else, you can do like Bull and ask someone to hit you

[S.W.]

That would be my ideal ending too, even if I doubt we'll get seomthing this optimistic. I would love to see it happen.

 

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Love that idea, but I cringe at the thought that it would mean sacrificing all the elves Solas has drawn to him for the single purpose of weakening him. I'm not sure how well it would work either. You have his troops in gridlock but that doesn't stop Solas himself from putting his plan into action, unless he specifically need his people for that (we talked of a huge blood sacrifice yesterday, which I think is still a possibility as to his plan to enter the fade). If he doesn't specifically need them, we're doing it all for naught though.

 

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Yeah, it's pretty damn ruthless The main problem with trying to defeat Solas by outsmarting him is that it's a race to the bottom of how cruel you can be - you'll end up having to treat your own men as sacrificial pawns. I did think the withdrawal of lots of elves suddenly, as hinted at in the epilogue, implied that he needed lots of people - even if they're just spies - to get what he needs. Doubt he'll go down the blood sacrifice route, though, it's not his area of expertise and I'd hope he hasn't sunk that low.

 

I think, if you're willing to defeat him at any cost, fine, but it's probably going to strengthen his resolve rather than weaken it. I think another approach which I'm quite fond of is trying to shake the resolve of his own soldiers - infiltrate his numbers and sow the seeds of dissent. I wonder if he'd pause if he was being challenged by his own people in high enough numbers? He might justify what happened to Felassan as an anomaly, but if half his agents felt the same, he'd possibly pause to reconsider.