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[midnight tea]

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Ok so ... In Hushed Whispers, go into the future, the Veil is shattered, Solas says that no barrier exists between the physical world and the Fade.  Wouldn't the Evanuris have been released then?  In Trespasser you can ask him that if he takes down the Veil then wouldn't the false gods be released and Solas will say he had plans.  But what about in the alternate future during the mage questline?

 

 

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Who said that they weren't released?

 

Things definitely weren't going according to Corypheus plans, at least according to notes and his lackeys desperately trying to find out how come Inquisitor knew about the ritual in the Temple of Sacred Ashes (why would that matter if Cory's goal was accomplished?) or Alexius being ordered to research his time magic to reverse time prior to the Breach.

 

Then, at the very end, we don't really know what was going on, aside from the fact that so far Cory ruled, everything is overgrown with red lyrium, demons are everywhere, and at the very end Corypheus apparently was coming to Redcliffe to end everyone.

[RedMagister]

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I forget where I saw it, or who said it... someone on this thread maybe? About how Solas's speech pattern, or attitude is just slightly different when he does that chuckle and talks about Mythal's death and the imprisonment. With the suggestion that maybe Mythal is driving somewhere in there. Not sure I follow with that, but it does really make me wonder about their former relationship and just what really happened. What's behind the idea that eternal torment is actually fitting instead of just killing them and being done with it? Why shut them away in such a way that the whole world is changed for it?

 

And we have such a long time to wait for more answers. Argh,

 

Ah me too me too.

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he looked like he really loved her. and didn't he say the world would have literally broke form war if they continued the way they were? hence the veil; it was because Mythal, the one that sort of kept everyone at bay, did die.

 

man I hope I make incredible progress in my life by the time the next game is out.

[Cee]

while thread dad explains all the things LOL 

 

I think we're covering the bases.

[Uirebhiril]

Also...

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world did not go boom.

 

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It was certainly burning in chaos, however.

[MayriyaNoori]

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Ok so ... In Hushed Whispers, go into the future, the Veil is shattered, Solas says that no barrier exists between the physical world and the Fade.  Wouldn't the Evanuris have been released then?  In Trespasser you can ask him that if he takes down the Veil then wouldn't the false gods be released and Solas will say he had plans.  But what about in the alternate future during the mage questline?

 

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OMG there was a reality where the Pantheon was unleashed and my Quizzy destroyed it!

 

UGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

So could have met them. And they probably hated Coryphishness and may have been the ones at the forefront of trying to fix things for all we know. Somewhere out there.

 

*disgruntled noise*

 

[Solas]

Renmiri I'm out of likes but 

[midnight tea]

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I think this is actually a decent possibility.  I don't remember which dev said it, but Solas's relationship with Mythal is supposedly "complicated."  Alternatively, he may have been a petitioner who sought out Mythal for guidance and justice.

 

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Maybe that's what Cole means when he says in Trespasser "He did not want a body, but she asked him to come. He left a scar when he burned her off his face."

 

Perhaps he removed her vallaslin? Also - is that the origin of a scar on his forehead  ?

[Elessara]

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Who said that they weren't released?

 

Things definitely weren't going according to Corypheus plans, at least according to notes and his lackeys desperately trying to find out how come Inquisitor knew about the ritual in the Temple of Sacred Ashes why would that matter if Cory's goal was accomplished) or Alexius being ordered to research his time magic to reverse time prior to the Breach.

 

Then, at the very end, we don't really know what was going on, aside from the fact that so far Cory ruled, everything is overgrown with red lyrium, demons are everywhere, and at the very end Corypheus apparently was coming to Redcliffe to end everyone.

 

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Or, it's taken a year for the Veil to come completely down and the Evanuris are perhaps just now waking up.  But otherwise I'd have expected them to make their presence known.  As powerful as they were they could probably just roll over everything in their path and they don't really seem the type to be subtle.  Especially Elgar'nan heh.

 

[Cee]

Bwahaha. Mike Laidlaw spilled coffee on his Nintendo DS and...

 

https://twitter.com/...739295917248516

 

https://twitter.com/...742207607279616

 

 

I am just done.

 

Ha, I was the one who said "3DS: "What are the cheese wheels for?" and then like 3 minutes later, the pic with the cheese appeared. I was laughing so so hard.

[drosophila]

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definitely agree with this.

I don't understand why anyone would try to make out that Mythal is somehow better than Solas when she's been complicit in this all along. She gave him her power, she agreed with him, at the end of DA:I, that they needed to do whatever was necessary to save 'the people'. In that sense, her hands aren't clean. You could argue that Mythal has helped people in Thedas since then, eg. saving the wardens so they could stop the blight - but, so has Solas, knowing he had to kill them. In DA:O/2, what we knew of Flemeth is that she quite bitter, can be ruthless, and believes in destiny - likely that hasn't changed much since we found out she was Mythal in part, and her need for vengeance is... alarming, honestly.

The details are also sketchy as to exactly how she treated her people. She had vallaslin - and so owned slaves, in some form. I have difficulty understanding how a revolutionary who devoted himself, initially, to freeing slaves and empowering people, giving them the choice to fight against their masters, would be fond of a slave owner, however benevolent, however good her intentions. Perhaps Mythal was dead by this point - the slave-freeing only begun afterwards. Solas may also lack the vantage point of someone 'on the ground' and fail to understand how Mythal's sympathy was useless for most slaves trying to change material conditions.

I know it's unlikely, but I wonder if Solas was formerly a slave himself - perhaps even Mythal's - and Mythal freed him from his shackles, perhaps seeing that it was unfair/unjust, or perhaps recognising intelligence and talent in him. That would explain why he speaks so highly of her.

 

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I always really liked the theory that Solas used to be a slave. I wonder if there were any other social classes back then except the evanuris, the slaves, and the rebels of Fen'Harel. I think it's possible that Mythal freed him and I still wonder if the sinner in the Ancient Elven Writing codex entry is him. 

 

Other reasons he could like her: through Flemeth we know Mythal is shrewd herself. I could see how she would notice the potential in an alliance with his organization, which apparently was troubling the evanuris back then. She could have been putting her very best foot forward in front of him, so that he could have him and his rebels on her side.

[Solas]

I think we're covering the bases.

[Avejajed]

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It was certainly burning in chaos, however.

Minor detail.

[_Lucinia]

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Ok so ... In Hushed Whispers, go into the future, the Veil is shattered, Solas says that no barrier exists between the physical world and the Fade.  Wouldn't the Evanuris have been released then?  In Trespasser you can ask him that if he takes down the Veil then wouldn't the false gods be released and Solas will say he had plans.  But what about in the alternate future during the mage questline?

 

 

 

Also...

Spoiler

world did not go boom.

 

 

Spoiler

It was certainly burning in chaos, however.

 

 

Spoiler

 

OMG there was a reality where the Pantheon was unleashed and my Quizzy destroyed it!

 

UGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

So could have met them. And they probably hated Coryphishness and may have been the ones at the forefront of trying to fix things for all we know. Somewhere out there.

 

*disgruntled noise*

 

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Now I am really scratching my head.  Like a dunce I totally forgot that the Veil was down in the horrible future.  Yep it was in chaos all right.  Considering Solas plans to bring down the Veil anyways I wonder why he wasn't pushing to just keep that future .  Yeah I know he didn't have all of his power.

 

Ok.  Struggling to articulate my thoughts. 

 

So yeah the Evanuris would have been free in that future then huh?  Cuz he does say in Trespasser that removing the Veil would free them, but he "had a plan".  Make no wonder that future scared him so bad.  He couldn't enact his plan in his current powerless state and they were probably all free.

[MayriyaNoori]

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I always really liked the theory that Solas used to be a slave. I wonder if there were any other social classes back then except the evanuris, the slaves, and the rebels of Fen'Harel. I think it's possible that Mythal freed him and I still wonder if the sinner in the Ancient Elven Writing codex entry is him. 

 

Other reasons he could like her: through Flemeth we know Mythal is shrewd herself. I could see how she would notice the potential in an alliance with his organization, which apparently was troubling the evanuris back then. She could have been putting her very best foot forward in front of him, so that he could have him and his rebels on her side.

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There were at least nobles. Solas mentions them. And I imagine priest/priestesses who were probably treated far better than slaves.

 

[Uirebhiril]

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Now I am really scratching my head.  Like a dunce I totally forgot that the Veil was down in the horrible future.  Yep it was in chaos all right.  Considering Solas plans to bring down the Veil anyways I wonder why he wasn't pushing to just keep that future .  Yeah I know he didn't have all of his power.

 

Ok.  Struggling to articulate my thoughts. 

 

So yeah the Evanuris would have been free in that future then huh?  Cuz he does say in Trespasser that removing the Veil would free them, but he "had a plan".  Make no wonder that future scared him so bad.  He couldn't enact his plan in his current powerless state and they were probably all free.

 

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Aaaand he said the world was an abomination that must never come to pass. Sooo... is it just the nature of how the Veil was taken down that made things so bad, or did future!Solas realize his plan was stupid, but failed to mention that before sending Inquisitor back to their proper timeline. Hmm.

[_Lucinia]

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Aaaand he said the world was an abomination that must never come to pass. Sooo... is it just the nature of how the Veil was taken down that made things so bad, or did future!Solas realize his plan was stupid, but failed to mention that before sending Inquisitor back to their proper timeline. Hmm.

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Oh snap! 

 

No effing kidding.  Holy moly.  And we come full circle in a way.  What if that future Solas would never have carried out his plan after seeing the chaos.  But because we pulled a Solas by going back in time and destroying that future.  He's never going to know that his plan is bad and he doesn't want to do it anymore.

 

Daaaaang.  That's messed up. 

[drosophila]

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Aaaand he said the world was an abomination that must never come to pass. Sooo... is it just the nature of how the Veil was taken down that made things so bad, or did future!Solas realize his plan was stupid, but failed to mention that before sending Inquisitor back to their proper timeline. Hmm.

 

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OMG, how awesome would it have been if Redcliffe!Solas came back with Dorian and Inky to try to convince himself not to do it?! Can you imagine the two Solases arguing with each other?!

[Miss This or That]

Not to be overly optimistic or anything, but Bioware has posted an assistant writer position for a position somewhere in Canada (so either the Edmonton on Montreal office I would guess). Hiring new people means starting on new projects, right guys? *puppy dog eyes* Right?

 

Can't I be, like, nine years older with a bachelor's degree in game design and a crap load of experience? Please? Seriously, for around four years game design has been my dream. I also took an advanced art course in school, am a game design hobbyist (I'm talking about RPGMaker here, plus I hope to start learning how to use unity and program based computer languages soon), plan to study game design as soon as my art skills are on par with what I deem worthy of even trying to get accepted into a university, draw almost every day to achieve said amount of drawing skills aaand I'm desperately trying to learn japanese because that could be to my advantage as well. Like, working for Bioware one day is probably my biggest dream of my life because of their big focus on story and characters. And I say that with a certainty of 100%. Being young, from a normal class family and from a country were there are only two "free" universities for game design, both only taking 25-30 people per year, sucks. Gosh I hope I can fulfill my dream of studying it one day. I'd give anything for the chance. 

 

Sorry for the short rant.

 

Solas is love. Solas is life.

[Avejajed]

Maybe!

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We can go forward in time, with Dorian help, and show Solas what a terrible idea it is! Lol

[Jayla]

****! Something just hit me!

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How the frig is my girl supposed to wield a bow or a PAIR of daggers with only one arm? How is she gonna get stuff done?!

I should have made her a mage...

[Moondreamer01]

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Speaking of Solas as slave, it would actually fit quite well, considering what Cole says and a few other things. I wonder if he didn't use to be something like Abelas, some kind of guardian of Mythal. Mythal is, almost everywhere, found with statues of wolves as if guarding her. The wolves of Mythal. And then, we learn Solas got the nickname of "dread wolf" as a sort of insult, that he got to wearing with pride. Dread wolf has very little to do with freeing slaves in general, so you do have to wonder how he got by it. As a close servant of Mythal however? One of her wolves, and the one she'd use to carry out her justice (maybe?) It would fit...

[Avejajed]

****! Something just hit me!

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How the frig is my girl supposed to wield a bow or a PAIR of daggers with only one arm? How is she gonna get stuff done?!

I should have made her a mage...

Enchantment?

[MoonDrummer]

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Ok so ... In Hushed Whispers, go into the future, the Veil is shattered, Solas says that no barrier exists between the physical world and the Fade.  Wouldn't the Evanuris have been released then?  In Trespasser you can ask him that if he takes down the Veil then wouldn't the false gods be released and Solas will say he had plans.  But what about in the alternate future during the mage questline?

 

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Maybe Cory killed them or they were just keeping their heads down buying time? If Solas wasn't strong enough to use his orb when he woke up I don't them being able to either.

[Moondreamer01]

Can't I be, like, nine years older with a bachelor's degree in game design and a crap load of experience? Please? Seriously, for around four years game design has been my dream. I also took an advanced art course in school, am a game design hobbyist (I'm talking about RPGMaker here, plus I hope to start learning how to use unity and program based computer languages soon), plan to study game design as soon as my art skills are on par with what I deem worthy of even trying to get accepted into a university, draw almost every day to achieve said amount of drawing skills aaand I'm desperately trying to learn japanese because that could be to my advantage as well. Like, working for Bioware one day is probably my biggest dream of my life because of their big focus on story and characters. And I say that with a certainty of 100%. Being young, from a normal class family and from a country were there are only two "free" universities for game design, both only taking 25-30 people per year, sucks. Gosh I hope I can fulfill my dream of studying it one day. I'd give anything for the chance. 

 

Sorry for the short rant.

 

Solas is love. Solas is life.

Well, it's a writer position, not an art or programming-based one, and it says they're not necessarily looking for someone with prior experience in game deisgn. If you're interested, I could find again the posting of what they're looking for.

[Sable Rhapsody]

****! Something just hit me!

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How the frig is my girl supposed to wield a bow or a PAIR of daggers with only one arm? How is she gonna get stuff done?!

I should have made her a mage...

 

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Arm.  Bow.

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