I recorded all the cutscenes with both my Quizzies and put them all on my phone. I have watched many many times, all over the place.
ANY TIME, ANYWHERE.
Also, my loved ones are becoming concerned now.
They keep wondering why I'm so quiet and constantly lost in thought.
They think I'm going through some kind of bad depression like I have done in the past.
Not quite sure how to explain that I'm lost in thoughts of Solas. Wandering into headcannons of what my Lavellan's will be doing next and what kind of character's they'd bring with them and ... ah. Possibilities.
So yeah, I'm quiet because I don't have much to say outside of talking about Dragon Age. IT IS ALL CONSUMING.
I even finally picked up TW3, but as I'm wandering around, yeah, thinking of my Inquisitors.
I get a tiny bit too emotionally invested in some things...
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Bolded text is basically me ever since Trespasser. I'm starting to feel a bit bad for my mom because whenever she tries to talk to me about things, I'm always lost in thought thinking about Solas and my Lavellan and Dragon Age and how it's all going to end, etc. And she's also stated how she feels like she's being ignored so...
I think it's already becoming some sort of unhealthy obsession for me.
Random thought. You know what would be interesting to see gameplay-wise in the next game? If Solas' trjectory mirrored what the player think of Solas. To all those players who hate him and want to murder-knife him and so do and say things that reflect their world view, the game (and Solas) react by having him going farther and farther off the deep end, mirroting that fact. To those players, the Dread Wolf WILL become the monster they've constructed in their minds. On the other hand, players who still believe he can be redeemed and do and say things to that effect in game get to see that what they are doing is actually working. All that to lead to his eventual redemption. A bit like how the way we interracted with Leliana made her soft or hard, but on a game-wide scale.
Heck, I'm not even sure how that could work. Different decision trees where some decisions appear or disappear depending of previous dialogues and decision? Hidden approval (or redemption) meter? I think it could be extremely interesting and make a real change on world state while all ending up at the same place (Solas is stopped, one way or the other)
Oh ME3 was awful. I had to beg forgiveness to Kaidan for romancing Thane when all I wanted to do was to say F**k off you left me! And Jacob mancers have to beg for a kiss even though he has a pregnant girlfriend now
I didn't ask for forgiveness from Kaidan for my Shepard's relationship with Garrus, at first I did but then I panicked and thought that maybe it would couple her with Kaidan, so.. I felt just a tad bad after telling Kaidan off, but I got over it.
I like it. Basically you get the conflict--and world--that you deserve.
Pretty much so. And if you decide Solas is a monster to be stopped at all cost and so escalate the conflict, how responsible are you for all the casualties that this brings on? Who's the real monster?
I was actually wondering what my Lavellan would do post-Trespasser in regards to clan related things....because she is now the last of clan Lavellan.
So....I don't know what would make the most sense. Would a Dalish in her position find a new clan? Even with all the clans kind of disappearing? And if she did find a clan to accept her would she take their clan name or merge it to Lavellan?
I know finding a new clan would probably be a little low on the totem pole of priorities with everything else going on, but I did want to think of something happy for my Lavellan....and I figured a happy thing(after all of everything she has been through) would be her finding a new clan.
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Mine luckily survived. I'm going to start a new one, since I'm an unfortunate XBOX 360 user, but luckily I my parents are wanting to get a new computer this Christmas, one that I'm hoping I can play the game on. Her clan will also, likely survive, ( I can't stand how there is nothing done about it. No scene of the love interest or friend comforting Lavellan over the loss. Just, oh look at that your entire family is dead. Well, better get back to work.) So mine would probably pay them a visit in their new city settlement.
Since I like imagining my quizz's backstory, I head-cannoned that her and her dad are really tight. She wants to tell the others about what she saw, but she's afraid of what they will say so she tells her dad instead. Her dad, being an ex city elf that doesn't really take any religion seriously (whether that be Chantry or Dalish beliefs). His reaction would be along the lines of, "Well, sh**. If you weren't my daughter I'd sworn you are either crazy, pulling my leg, or eating mushrooms."
Oh ME3 was awful. I had to beg forgiveness to Kaidan for romancing Thane when all I wanted to do was to say F**k off you left me! And Jacob mancers have to beg for a kiss even though he has a pregnant girlfriend now
Although she leaves your crew in ME2 to handle some very important things (that happened in large part because she took a chance and that led us all to where we are anyway) and you only have a moment in the main game and romance content in DLC, this is more reason why Liara (IMO)
Pretty much so. And if you decide Solas is a monster to be stopped at all cost and so escalate the conflict, how responsible are you for all the casualties that this brings on? Who's the real monster?
I think what would be nice would also to see this mirrored in the Inquisitor's own tactics.
You want to beat the Dread Wolf? You want to outsmart him, outplay him? Then you'll have be more ruthless, more cunning - you'll need to make the hard decisions, sacrifices, to do what's necessary to save the world.
The irony is delicious.
(Although I hope 'redemption' isn't too easy, either).
His coldness does break the heart, I'm still digesting it.
He seems a bit regretful that he had to kill him (if I remember his tone correctly), I'm wondering whether he did it so this "ill thought" won't spread to other agents, it could have caused a stir in their ranks. Also, he may have just awakened and was in fragile state of mind, it was probably something he really didn't want to hear because it threatens what he feels right now, which is probably a roller coaster of emotions and guilt.
By the way, I looked again at the dialogue tree
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When the Inquisitor asks "what would've happened if Corypheus would have died and you'd recovered the orb?"
To that he answers "I would have entered the Fade, using the mark you now bear. Then I would have torn down the Veil. As this world burned in the raw chaos, I would have restored the world of mine... the world of the elves"
So from that it sounds like he means to stick around after to get the elves back to their feet, it doesn't sound like he is about use time magic since he says "as", he also says that the world would burn "in the raw chaos"...
It sounds less like insta-death and more like the chaos that the tearing of the Veil would bring is what meant to be the end of the world (as said in a few posts back, adjustment issues).
Edit: Another interesting thing is that besides that he doesn't refer to bringing down the Veil, I just read the entire dialogue tree. He just speaks of restoring his people and he won't answer why this would mean the death of the world. Does he plan on doing something else? Because he does answer to what will happen if the Veil was torn down (chaos) but he won't answer that question. This is actually.. Pretty suspicious.
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Cole talks about the Titans "not remembering how to wake up". After the initial flood of arcane energy from shutting down the Veil, you're going to have a multitude of angry Titans who can reshape the world at a whim.
It could be that Solas has some means of controlling the Titans or an alliance with them to reform the world back to how it was during the time of Arlathan. Geological upheaval of that scale would probably kill most of the indigenous population.
Or maybe this isn't the first time Solas attempted this grand plan of his? This is just his latest attempt to fix his mistake?
I dodged a lot of ME3's problems since I romanced Garrus in 2/3 and no one in 1, but that game's RP issues went beyond romance. Thessia, for example. Why is my FemShep, who has been very cool and contained in 150+ hours of gameplay, suddenly losing it at her pilot who's just trying to help? Why is my ManShep, who was so bitter about the Alliance in ME2, suddenly bro-ing it up with them like nothing bad happened?
I could go on and on, and I HAVE at length before But it's good that DA:I seems to have avoided a lot of those pitfalls, and I hope the series continues to do a good job of accommodating lots of RP room.
I think what would be nice would also to see this mirrored in the Inquisitor's own tactics.
You want to beat the Dread Wolf? You want to outsmart him, outplay him? Then you'll have be more ruthless, more cunning - you'll need to make the hard decisions, sacrifices, to do what's necessary to save the world.
The irony is delicious.
(Although I hope 'redemption' isn't too easy, either).
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I will expect the redemption path to be shock full of sacrifices, but probably not the same kind of sacrifices. But, for those who are hell bent on killing Solas, I want there to be consequences... the kind of consequence that leaves a taint to their Inquisitor's soul. There is NO way you can outsmart the man who says he couldn't fight the enavuris without getting a lot of blood on his hands without the very same thing. You think he became a monster in his fight against them? Well, you will become as he is so you can stop him. There is no winning side in this war. No moral high ground.
But then... I love the plays on moralities a game can bring, and it might simply be too complicated to implement (and it might also sail way over the head of some of the players, if the reactions to Bull's betrayal are to be believed).
Bolded text is basically me ever since Trespasser. I'm starting to feel a bit bad for my mom because whenever she tries to talk to me about things, I'm always lost in thought thinking about Solas and my Lavellan and Dragon Age and how it's all going to end, etc. And she's also stated how she feels like she's being ignored so...
I think it's already becoming some sort of unhealthy obsession for me.
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A response not just to you, but to everyone in this position, and there are many of us.
Give it time! Let your loved ones give it time!
It's only been, what, 5 days? Grieving takes longer than that.
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I definitely liked how Trespasser didn't pull its punches. This fandom keeps yelling about how much it wants consequence for choices, and Trespasser IMO delivered.
Cullen's struggled with lyrium addiction and mental instability for as long as we've known him. What did you think would happen if you made him take the stuff indefinitely? Bull went back to be re-educated. Again, what did you think would happen? It might be a gut punch for the players who did it, and I feel for their feels. But it's not bad things for the sake of bad things; it's a logical consequence of the choices they made.
Mine luckily survived. I'm going to start a new one, since I'm an unfortunate XBOX 360 user, but luckily I my parents are wanting to get a new computer this Christmas, one that I'm hoping I can play the game on. Her clan will also, likely survive, ( I can't stand how there is nothing done about it. No scene of the love interest or friend comforting Lavellan over the loss. Just, oh look at that your entire family is dead. Well, better get back to work.) So mine would probably pay them a visit in their new city settlement.
Since I like imagining my quizz's backstory, I head-cannoned that her and her dad are really tight. She wants to tell the others about what she saw, but she's afraid of what they will say so she tells her dad instead. Her dad, being an ex city elf that doesn't really take any religion seriously (whether that be Chantry or Dalish beliefs). His reaction would be along the lines of, "Well, sh**. If you weren't my daughter I'd sworn you are either crazy, pulling my leg, or eating mushrooms."
Haha, I love your quizzy's dad.
My Lavellen, being a mage, is a little cut off from most of her clan. Her dad - a hunter - died several years ago in a gruesome fight, so she's really protective of her mother. So Lavellen's only close relationship, asides from the keeper, is with her mother, the clan storyteller - she's a sweet thing, romantic, known for gentle, wouldn't hurt a fly, although I think Lavellen feels she lives a little bit too much in the clouds, and perhaps never got over her dad's death. Her mother also has a very personal + deep relationship with dalish history and spirituality - it's the one guiding light in her life, I think, that she believes will never leave her.
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She does not take any news about what's happened to Lavellen well. She's annoyed that her daughter can't come back. She feels that her daughter's abandoned the gods. She freaks out when Lavellen has removed her vallaslin. She does not like the fact that after spending years of spurning advances by other dalish elves, that she chosen now to fall for a non-dalish apostate.
As you can imagine, they argue all the time. About everything.
I'm not even sure if Lavellen can tell her anything about Fen'Harel or the Dread Wolf. I suppose she has to, in case anyone in the clan decides to run off and join him. I think her mother's heart would break if she found out.
I suppose my Lavellen should be glad that her clan survived, and that her keeper has a smart head on her - still, she's honestly dreading telling them the news.
I dodged a lot of ME3's problems since I romanced Garrus in 2/3 and no one in 1, but that game's RP issues went beyond romance. Thessia, for example. Why is my FemShep, who has been very cool and contained in 150+ hours of gameplay, suddenly losing it at her pilot who's just trying to help? Why is my ManShep, who was so bitter about the Alliance in ME2, suddenly bro-ing it up with them like nothing bad happened?
I could go on and on, and I HAVE at length before But it's good that DA:I seems to have avoided a lot of those pitfalls, and I hope the series continues to do a good job of accommodating lots of RP room.
This kind of stuff has been happening before ME3. In ME1, why is every option my FemShep has to finish her conversation with Kaidan sound like she's hitting on him? Why is my Femshep being flirty with Jacob every time she opens her mouth? Why is FemShep hitting on the big muscle guy in ME 3 whos name I forgot?
I definitely liked how Trespasser didn't pull its punches. This fandom keeps yelling about how much it wants consequence for choices, and Trespasser IMO delivered.
Cullen's struggled with lyrium addiction and mental instability for as long as we've known him. What did you think would happen if you made him take the stuff indefinitely? Bull went back to be re-educated. Again, what did you think would happen? It might be a gut punch for the players who did it, and I feel for their feels. But it's not bad things for the sake of bad things; it's a logical consequence of the choices they made.
Ah crap sorry. It's fixed now.
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And yes, I loved the fact there were real consequences to our choices. I only wish the Leliana bit had been a little clearer from the start, but at the same time you don't always know IRL what impact your words have on other people, so I guess it was a nice reflection of this in game. Your Inquisitor, after all, has a lot of impact on everyone around them..
This kind of stuff has been happening before ME3. In ME1, why is every option my FemShep has to finish her conversation with Kaidan sound like she's hitting on him? Why is my Femshep being flirty with Jacob every time she opens her mouth? Why is FemShep hitting on the big muscle guy in ME 3 whos name I forgot?
This was all so much fun when playing a lesbian Shepard. I did get the 'be nice to Kaidan' ninjamance love triangle. Jacob I stopped talking to. Vega, I let be a bit more playful but it was perfectly clear to everyone that she was with Liara.
My Lavellen, being a mage, is a little cut off from most of her clan. Her dad - a hunter - died several years ago in a gruesome fight, so she's really protective of her mother. So Lavellen's only close relationship, asides from the keeper, is with her mother, the clan storyteller - she's a sweet thing, romantic, known for gentle, wouldn't hurt a fly, although I think Lavellen feels she lives a little bit too much in the clouds, and perhaps never got over her dad's death. Her mother also has a very personal + deep relationship with dalish history and spirituality - it's the one guiding light in her life, I think, that she believes will never leave her.
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She does not take any news about what's happened to Lavellen well. She's annoyed that her daughter can't come back. She feels that her daughter's abandoned the gods. She freaks out when Lavellen has removed her vallaslin. She does not like the fact that after spending years of spurning advances by other dalish elves, that she chosen now to fall for a non-dalish apostate.
As you can imagine, they argue all the time. About everything.
I'm not even sure if Lavellen can tell her anything about Fen'Harel or the Dread Wolf. I suppose she has to, in case anyone in the clan decides to run off and join him. I think her mother's heart would break if she found out.
I suppose my Lavellen should be glad that her clan survived, and that her keeper has a smart head on her - still, she's honestly dreading telling them the news.
I had been planning a 'visit to the clan' fic to take place between the end of the game and Trespasser. But now I realize I need to do two of them, one before and after each. And yeah, there will be some definitely conflict each time. She has he clan, her parents, and two younger siblings. Her sister was the intended of the clan's First, who (since all possible PCs are at the Conclave), traveled there with her and then died. Then my Lavellan comes back to see her family with no vallaslin and her close friends the Tevinter and the spirit.
Still working on the post-Trespasser headcanons. But I think once I have that, I'll finally write both.
I suppose my Lavellen should be glad that her clan survived, and that her keeper has a smart head on her - still, she's honestly dreading telling them the news.
I gave my quizzy a relatively loving and supportive family because the girl has enough angst in-game without me adding to it, and enough people who probably think she's crazy for trying to save Solas.
Also I'm a bit tired of my poor PCs having nonexistent or terrible families. I can be a hero and have normal parents, damnit!
Mine luckily survived. I'm going to start a new one, since I'm an unfortunate XBOX 360 user, but luckily I my parents are wanting to get a new computer this Christmas, one that I'm hoping I can play the game on. Her clan will also, likely survive, ( I can't stand how there is nothing done about it. No scene of the love interest or friend comforting Lavellan over the loss. Just, oh look at that your entire family is dead. Well, better get back to work.) So mine would probably pay them a visit in their new city settlement.
Since I like imagining my quizz's backstory, I head-cannoned that her and her dad are really tight. She wants to tell the others about what she saw, but she's afraid of what they will say so she tells her dad instead. Her dad, being an ex city elf that doesn't really take any religion seriously (whether that be Chantry or Dalish beliefs). His reaction would be along the lines of, "Well, sh**. If you weren't my daughter I'd sworn you are either crazy, pulling my leg, or eating mushrooms."
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I love your Lavellan's dad. xD
Since we're talking headcanons, Lavellan clan also survived in my playthrough. I always headcanoned that my Lavellan would pay a visit to her clan one of these days. They'd be wondering about her lack of vallaslin and even start whispering that she has spent too long with the shems and abandoned their elven gods. I imagine she would probably have a talk with her twin brother (who is the First) about it first, since they're pretty close. I haven't decided exactly what his reaction would be about the whole "elven gods were not actually gods but were instead very powerful mages" but I imagine that he would be a bit shocked that his sister fell in love with the Dread Wolf. ("Dammit, Sis! I know you tend to be reckless and all, but it's my duty as First to protect you and the clan from the Dread Wolf and here you tell me you slept with him?!" )
And yes, I loved the fact there were real consequences to our choices. I only wish the Leliana bit had been a little clearer from the start, but at the same time you don't always know IRL what impact your words have on other people, so I guess it was a nice reflection of this in game. Your Inquisitor, after all, has a lot of impact on everyone around them..
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I agree. I felt Leliana's bit was a bit misleading, because she talks about quickly dealing with a spy so he can't escape or get word to our enemies. I was afraid that if I let her spare him, it would lead to more corruption and spies selling secrets and later weakening the Inquisition (much like how going easy on deserters and rioters in DAA caused mass desertions and greater riots that had to get put down violently), but it turned out that the spy had nothing to do with it. It was just about Leliana's morality; and I was kicking myself.
Since we're talking headcanons, Lavellan clan also survived in my playthrough. I always headcanoned that my Lavellan would pay a visit to her clan one of these days. They'd be wondering about her lack of vallaslin and may even start whispering that she has spent too long with the shems and abandoned their elven gods. I imagine she would probably have a talk with her twin brother (who is the First) about it first, since they're pretty close. I haven't decided exactly what his reaction would be about the whole "elven gods were not actually gods but were instead very powerful mages" but I imagine that he would be a bit shocked that his sister fell in love with the Dread Wolf. ("Dammit, Sis! I know you tend to be reckless and all, but it's my duty as First to protect you and the clan from the Dread Wolf and here you tell me you slept with him?!" )
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My Lavellan...used the Inquisition's clean-up tasks as an excuse NOT to go back after Corypheus's defeat. She just didn't know what to say to them. She still kept in contact with her immediate family via letters, but she didn't know how to face them. Trespasser forced her to face them, because she absolutely doesn't want her clan fall in with Solas. And while her immediate family's generally supportive, I think going to Wycome is the final nail in the coffin for her. She's never going to be able to go back to that life, and I think at this point, she doesn't even want to.
If I had to pick a group of people with whom she can let her guard down completely, it'd be the Avvar of Stone-Bear Hold and not the Dalish.
I gave my quizzy a relatively loving and supportive family because the girl has enough angst in-game without me adding to it, and enough people who probably think she's crazy for trying to save Solas.
Also I'm a bit tired of my poor PCs having nonexistent or terrible families. I can be a hero and have normal parents, damnit!
After RPing a Shepard with Earthborn and Sole Survivor backgrounds, someone with heavy trust issues and a lot of associated pain, I was not doing that again.
So she has her parents and is the eldest of three. By Trespasser's end she's about 33. Her sister is 25, and little surprise brother is nearly 17. She also has a super close relationship with her longtime friend and onetime first love and her wife. So I definitely gave my Lavellan cushions to fall on.
IT IS ALL CONSUMING.
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But it's good that DA:I seems to have avoided a lot of those pitfalls, and I hope the series continues to do a good job of accommodating lots of RP room.
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