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 Yep. On my way to start chatting up Cullen (he looks much better on ultra mesh, shader and texture..), I was silly enough to strike up a word with Solas. He started to talk about dreams and ancient ruins and my poor lost Lavellan just aquired a huge crush. Cullen is so... bland for her. Aspiring, although still very weak mage, fascinated by Fade? Bring it on, Solas.

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.... looking at this screenshot now, makes me wonder. Is he happy to see her? :D :D :D

Yea I agree. I always thought Cullen was too ... (I'm going to be completely honest here) normal. 

 

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.... Yes, I guess it can be discouraging thinking that if you were in his world, he wouldn't be interested. I don't know though. I'd like to think that if I was transported into Thedas, I would automatically become an elf. I feel more "elfy" than human, and look a little more like it, and culturally connect with them more, and I've always been more on the intuitive and spiritual side, and so on.

 

I mean, in real life we're all technically non-magic humans because magic and other humanoid races don't exist, but if whatever magic got us into that world was possible, wouldn't it also be possible that those of us that would have the capacity or sensitivity to magic could become mages, and those with traits in common with... at least elves or dwarves become elves or dwarves too?

 

As it is, I can't play a human because I just don't connect with human characters. Trying to step into their shoes feels like trying to push a size fourteen foot into a size four shoe. It just doesn't fit, and it requires me to hack off pieces of myself to even try, and ultimately I just can't. Playing an elf is like slipping on an old, worn, comfortable pair of shoes, and playing a Qunari or dwarf is like slipping on a less comfortable but still flashy shoes that I enjoy wearing on a night out in the town. Whatever magic that could get me into Thedas must sense that about me and change me accordingly once I got there, so I don't feel bad about Solas liking elves....

 

 This...This is how I feel too. I connect with the elven characters and prefer their histories, cultures and the like. As for the dreamer and Fade and spiritual connection that really resonates with me. As one that dreams vivid dreams I would expect to cross over as an elf mage with sominari powers. Watch out DW my Quizzy is far cleverer than you think, and she can find you in the Fade!

 

Even though I like Elves, I would probably never manifest as an Elf I was in any fantasy world. I would end up being a Human.

 

Elves are graceful, beautiful, long lived, spiritual, patient, etc. I am anything but those things.

 

I am not very graceful (you should see me dance, its hilarious in a really bad way), I am average looking at best, my family does not have a history of long lifespan, I am not very patient and I am someone who is logical and realistic as opposed to spiritual and unearthly.

 

As for playing Human, I have 2 main playthroughs for Dragon Age. One is male Human archer rogue and the other is female Elf mage.

 

Playing as a human has its benefits. Human have no special immortality or connection to otherwordly realms or link with some primeval shaper of reality but that's what makes them special. They are ordinary yet they get the job done and they are adaptable. To me, the Rogue class is made for Humans specifically. Humans are not the toughest people in the game (that belongs to Qunari and Dwarves). Humans are also not the most magically attuned people in the game (that honor goes to Elves, specifically Ancient Elves). Humans are adaptable and diverse. That's what Rogue is. Being the adaptable underdog, if you will.

 

Personally, if I ever made a fantasy world or took on the role of Dungeon Master for a D&D session, I would make it so that Humans (non Elves in general) are incapable of innate magic, they would have to learn it or be taught. Elves would be able to acquire magic

naturally and artificially.


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#120928
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A secret in Trespasser:

 

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spoil it please!!

 

I can't replay Trespasser for a while and I want to know everything about it.

 

PM me?? 



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spoil it please!!

 

I can't replay Trespasser for a while and I want to know everything about it.

 

PM me?? 

 

I'll just post it here for others that can't play

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I'll just post it here for others that can't play

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I don't know what Solas's preferences are simply because, as any other race, you can't express interest in him.  Rather than Bioware having Solas express his preferences as they had Cassandra and others do when flirted with, they instead almost made a decision that only a Elven Female would think to flirt or be attracted to Solas. 

 

So maybe he's only attracted to Elvhen women, or maybe not. For all we know in-game, he could have just been waiting for your little Dwarf to grab him for a smooch in the Fade and was bitterly disappointed when you started daydreaming about Bull instead.

 

However, if I were to be transported into Thedas and another dismissed me because my ears weren't pointy enough or my body not lithe enough, even if they professed to be drawn to my spirit, I'd just leave them to it. My ancestors survived wars, plagues, famine and the sheer brutality of evolution to make me. I'm fine just how I am.


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My fellow Solas lovers, I come to you in need! Please tell me there is an animated gif of Solas walking towards the Eluvian in his sexy way with his sexy, tight leg armor on similar to the one of him walking towards the brazier all catty and lighting it. If it does not exist, why not? It needs to exist!

 

I don't believe that should be spoilered as it was sort of in the trailer and all. If it does I can fix it.

 

And to contribute:

Spoiler


#120933
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I don't know what Solas's preferences are simply because, as any other race, you can't express interest in him.  Rather than Bioware having Solas express his preferences as they had Cassandra and others do when flirted with, they instead almost made a decision that only a Elven Female would think to flirt or be attracted to Solas. 

 

So maybe he's only attracted to Elvhen women, or maybe not. For all we know in-game, he could have just been waiting for your little Dwarf to grab him for a smooch in the Fade and was bitterly disappointed when you started daydreaming about Bull instead.

 

However, if I were to be transported into Thedas and another dismissed me because my ears weren't pointy enough or my body not lithe enough, even if they professed to be drawn to my spirit, I'd just leave them to it. My ancestors survived wars, plagues, famine and the sheer brutality of evolution to make me. I'm fine just how I am.

Personally, I think it's because they didn't have the resources. The solasmance was added on last minute. Any extra dialogue would have cost more money and time to add on. 

 

Because of this, we also don't know if it is just his preference or any other quissy is just too intimidated/creeped out or is just not interested enough in him to flirt. 

 

Also, fun fact, if a person's spirit defines who we would be in Thedas I'm fairly sure I'd be an elf, and not because I think I'm an amazing, pure spiritual individual or any crap like that. I spend most of my time thinking. And reading. And thinking some more. I'm extremely prideful, though I try to mask it with humor, and I'm very manipulative. I'd rather sit and think than go to parties or do anything actually fun. 

 

I'm extremely elfy, and there's no way around it. My friends actually say I look like an elf, which is weird (maybe because I'm greek). Also, I would probably be talking to Solas all day about fade related things and philosophical controversies, rather than drinking it up with Bull or playing pranks with Sera. 

 

That's just me though. Also I did ballet for 9 years and figure skating for 8. I'm very graceful, not that it matters. 



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I'd probably come out as some crossbred of human, elf and a dwarf. With some Cole-iness in me as well. Creepy thought. And I'd stalk Solas purely for his stories. I was disappointed to find out how little of them has he prepared for Skyhold. I'd sit there and listen whole day long.



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If we're determining what species we'd be in Thedas based on our IRL selves, I'd probably most closely resemble a nug.

Completely useless in the grand scheme of things apart from the occasional laugh, but my mating call could totally be used to draw out wyverns in a pinch.
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I'm sorry I was thinking about making another disney video XD I must say..  I was listening this... I was just thinking about Flemeth the whole time LOL 



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Even though I like Elves, I would probably never manifest as an Elf I was in any fantasy world. I would end up being a Human.

 

Then you'd be in good company, since humans are the dominant race of that world, just as humans are in this world.

 

Playing as a human has its benefits.

 

I'm sure it does, but not for me. I'm human in real life and feel out-of-place all the time; why would I go into a fantasy world to feel out-of-place there too?

 

Of BioWare's major modern RPG titles (three Mass Effect games and three Dragon Age games), 4/6 games are human-only. 5/7 if you count the upcoming ME: Andromeda. With so many games that force us to play humans despite creating such marvelous worlds with such varied and interesting humanoid races and cultures... please let me have this.  :(

 

Human have no special immortality or connection to otherwordly realms or link with some primeval shaper of reality but that's what makes them special. They are ordinary yet they get the job done and they are adaptable. To me, the Rogue class is made for Humans specifically. Humans are not the toughest people in the game (that belongs to Qunari and Dwarves). Humans are also not the most magically attuned people in the game (that honor goes to Elves, specifically Ancient Elves). Humans are adaptable and diverse. That's what Rogue is. Being the adaptable underdog, if you will.

 

If you say so. I personally think elves would make excellent rogues, since in DAO Leliana describes Thedas elves as "nimble and dextrous," and Sten as "lithe," and in The Stolen Throne Loghain comments that elves have excellent hearing and night vision, and are excellent at subterfuge and ranged combat, but to each their own.



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If we're determining what species we'd be in Thedas based on our IRL selves, I'd probably most closely resemble a nug.

Completely useless in the grand scheme of things, apart from the occasional laugh.
But my mating call could totally be used to draw out wyverns in a pinch.

aww I'm just imaging a person in a nug suit screeching at a convention like Talis in the DA:2 DLC

 

A security guard walks over to you and asks what the hell you are doing and you're just like: "Channeling my inner Thedas spirit animal" 

 

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anyways guys I'm exhausted. whatever Thedas spirit you wanna be, be it. Be as dwarfy, elfy, or nuggy as you want. Equality  ^_^

 

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*snip*

 

And to contribute:

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Now that i hink of some explanations, my poor Wolf.. I think he is a pawn in Mythal's plans and he will get himself killed in vain/or for a very different reason of what he thinks it will happen. Lavellan save him! (which be the way I hope they do give us, poor Solas always trying to save others people, noone bothered to save you..)

I'll explain

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Oh no, don't apologize. I'm sorry to freak out... again. (I'm sorry, I seem to do it a lot on this thread.  :( )

 

When you define it like that, I guess "sexual orientation" seems to be the closest analogy we have to understanding his feelings.

 

Oh, I understand. Yes, I guess it can be discouraging thinking that if you were in his world, he wouldn't be interested. I don't know though. I'd like to think that if I was transported into Thedas, I would automatically become an elf. I feel more "elfy" than human, and look a little more like it, and culturally connect with them more, and I've always been more on the intuitive and spiritual side, and so on.

 

I mean, in real life we're all technically non-magic humans because magic and other humanoid races don't exist, but if whatever magic got us into that world was possible, wouldn't it also be possible that those of us that would have the capacity or sensitivity to magic could become mages, and those with traits in common with... at least elves or dwarves become elves or dwarves too?

 

As it is, I can't play a human because I just don't connect with human characters. Trying to step into their shoes feels like trying to push a size fourteen foot into a size four shoe. It just doesn't fit, and it requires me to hack off pieces of myself to even try, and ultimately I just can't. Playing an elf is like slipping on an old, worn, comfortable pair of shoes, and playing a Qunari or dwarf is like slipping on a less comfortable but still flashy shoes that I enjoy wearing on a night out in the town. Whatever magic that could get me into Thedas must sense that about me and change me accordingly once I got there, so I don't feel bad about Solas liking elves.

 

And... in talking about this, I just put too much thought into it... Moving on!

 

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Since we're sharing, I'm someone who just absolutely loves playing elves when I have the chance in games like Dragon Age, The Elder Scrolls etc. Obviously, I'm a human IRL and most video games has you play a human so when given the chance to play as another race, I'd take it. ;) And playing humans in a fantasy game just bores the hell out of me for some reason. It's the reason why my Hawke is not my favorite PC.

 

I'm just amazed and fascinated with elves in general. I love their history and their culture. They're spiritual, beautiful, magical, and immortal. Everything that I'm not. Though tbh, if I was transported to the Dragon Age world, I'd probably be more of a dwarf than an elf in terms of physical similarites (I'm not tall, I'm not lithe, and I'm certainly not graceful). Maybe that's another reason I love elves. I have self confidence issues and an elf seems to embody a lot of things that I want to be. (Yes, they can be arrogant and prideful but oh well, nobody's perfect. :P)

 

And I do love Dragon Age's take on the elves. Different from your standard fantasy elves but still retain enough traits that keeps them "elfy" (Am I making sense? Probably not.)

 

As for what kind of elves I prefer playing? I tend to lean towards the forest-dwelling elves like the Wood Elves/bosmer of The Elder Scrolls or the Dalish of Dragon Age. Bow and arrows tend to be my preferred weapons though I would not say no to using daggers, swords, and shields. I am a HORRIBLE mage player btw so preference tends to be either rogues (speed and stealth), warriors (strength). Or if the game allows it, a mixed class like a magic rogue (like the Spellcloak in Kingdoms of Amalur) or a magic warrior (I think the Vanguard class for Mass Effect was this?).


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It's funny, the wish to be placed in Thedas, IRL. I've sometimes thought about it myself in a kind of "Oh, wouldn't it be amazing to be in Thedas, as the Inquisitor, meeting these brilliant characters."

 

Then of course, my more skeptical, detail oriented side of me screams "Nooooo, that would be absolutely horrible."

 

Thinking on it practically, I'd fail immediately at being the Inquisitor in all respects. Doesn't matter if i went down as me or as a Elf or a Mage, I'd just insta-fail. Firstly because, I've never fought in my life. I worked in a hospital to get me through uni from the age of about 17 - 23. I saw wounds and injuries and tons of blood. I also saw death. But to actually kill. To physically take a life, even in self defense, never mind the amount of fighting your group does. Nope. I'd just be a sobbing, vomiting mess. Added to that having never been in a battle. I wouldn't know how my fight-flight reactions would go. Maybe I'd just freeze, weapon awkwardly in hand before I was cut down. How would i even know to use a weapon? Even the lowliest bandit in Thedas would have a massive one-up on me. 

 

Taking in all the other factors; technology or lack thereof, the travelling, the responsibilities of thousands of lives all on you, the politics and the pressure. Most of all, being away from my family and friends, worrying about them, the thought of never coming back. No, going to Thedas in any form would probably be more akin to the worst Nightmare imaginable which no amount of interesting characters would be able to compensate for (and who even says they'd actually like you anyway?).

 

It makes for a great daydream, with all the practicalities handwaved away (which most fanfics of that nature do), but when it gets down to a "if a rift opened up in front of you right now, would you step through it?", I'd just grab my dog and run.


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It's funny, the wish to be placed in Thedas, IRL. I've sometimes thought about it myself in a kind of "Oh, wouldn't it be amazing to be in Thedas, as the Inquisitor, meeting these brilliant characters."

 

Then of course, my more skeptical, detail oriented side of me screams "Nooooo, that would be absolutely horrible."

 

Thinking on it practically, I'd fail immediately at being the Inquisitor in all respects. Doesn't matter if i went down as me or as a Elf or a Mage, I'd just insta-fail. Firstly because, I've never fought in my life. I worked in a hospital to get me through uni from the age of about 17 - 23. I saw wounds and injuries and tons of blood. I also saw death. But to actually kill. To physically take a life, even in self defense, never mind the amount of fighting your group does. Nope. I'd just be a sobbing, vomiting mess. Added to that having never been in a battle. I wouldn't know how my fight-flight reactions would go. Maybe I'd just freeze, weapon awkwardly in hand before I was cut down. How would i even know to use a weapon? Even the lowliest bandit in Thedas would have a massive one-up on me. 

 

Taking in all the other factors; technology or lack thereof, the travelling, the responsibilities of thousands of lives all on you, the politics and the pressure. Most of all, being away from my family and friends, worrying about them, the thought of never coming back. No, going to Thedas in any form would probably be more akin to the worst Nightmare imaginable which no amount of interesting characters would be able to compensate for (and who even says they'd actually like you anyway?).

 

It makes for a great daydream, with all the practicalities handwaved away (which most fanfics of that nature do), but when it gets down to a "if a rift opened up in front of you right now, would you step through it?", I'd just grab my dog and run.

 

You would simply be Finn. Remember the lovable Circle dork from Witch Hunt ? He is a Spirit Healer, he has never killed before and he does not like really like to adventure. 

 

The bolded line why I am thankful that I do long distance running as a hobby, have some martial arts training and play sport archery. I will never be able to do a Leaping Shot in my life (which I why I hate that ability despite it being so good) but at least I can use a bow properly.


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That hilarious moment when you realise;

 

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My fellow Solas lovers, I come to you in need! Please tell me there is an animated gif of Solas walking towards the Eluvian in his sexy way with his sexy, tight leg armor on similar to the one of him walking towards the brazier all catty and lighting it. If it does not exist, why not? It needs to exist!

 

I don't believe that should be spoilered as it was sort of in the trailer and all. If it does I can fix it.

 

And to contribute:

Spoiler

 

Spoiler


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Personally, it's very likely that I'm asexual because I experience little to no physical attraction or desire at all, and what few trace amounts I do quickly fade away. I'm panromantic though, so I'm capable of forming emotional and romantic attachments to people of any gender, gender identity, or even level of conventional "attractiveness." To me, love and attraction is on a purely intellectual, spiritual, and emotional level. So in that way, I can understand Solas being attracted only to those he feels he can connect with on a spiritual, emotional, and intellectual level.

 

 

I don't know. For all we know, he might be right.

 

When he talks about the Fade, he talks about being able to experience the thoughts and emotions of others as though he was there. He's witnessed countless battles from the perspectives of those who were there. Perhaps elven souls "feel" different from human or dwarf or qunari.

 

He also talks about a "collective consciousness," which might be related to those connected to the Fade being able to share and experience each other's thoughts and feelings. Like Cole, who's able to read the thoughts and emotions of those near him, like they're experiencing... a collective consciousness.

 

In fact, during Trespasser,

Spoiler

 

Perhaps Solas doesn't just "think" being elven affects the spirit directly; perhaps he knows from firsthand experience.

 

*shrug*

 

I'm sitting here amused by this post as a pan/pan empath. :lol:

 

Let's just say I understand all these points of view well. And I have a certain intuition that led me to really appreciate Cole more than I might have.



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Not actually a big elves person here - normally, I'd mock all the forest frolicking and flower crowns and unintelligible riddles and grace. ugh. not what I want in a partner. I mean, I love poetry, and I love pretty forests, but it's just so cliché, those qualities are used to make a character 'elfy' without exploring what those qualities entail, and how they contribute to a real, whole person.

 

I really like BW's approach to elves - which is to bring them down to earth, having gone through a dramatic fall from grace, where they now live as a racial underclass who are struggling to combat human oppression. I think that makes them 1000x more human (pardon the pun), although that is not to say that systematic racism is something that should be used to make character 'interesting' (ew), but it's part of a richer, more nuanced, (and also really tragic) history which doesn't reduce them to flat stereotypes.

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I think that's why I used to prefer city elves to dalish elves - city elves play less to type than dalish ones - but having played a Lavellen, and having learnt so much about ancient elves, I've changed my mind, and quite like each in their own way. 100% on modern elf defence squad here.


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It's funny, the wish to be placed in Thedas, IRL. I've sometimes thought about it myself in a kind of "Oh, wouldn't it be amazing to be in Thedas, as the Inquisitor, meeting these brilliant characters."

 

Then of course, my more skeptical, detail oriented side of me screams "Nooooo, that would be absolutely horrible."

 

Thinking on it practically, I'd fail immediately at being the Inquisitor in all respects. Doesn't matter if i went down as me or as a Elf or a Mage, I'd just insta-fail. Firstly because, I've never fought in my life. I worked in a hospital to get me through uni from the age of about 17 - 23. I saw wounds and injuries and tons of blood. I also saw death. But to actually kill. To physically take a life, even in self defense, never mind the amount of fighting your group does. Nope. I'd just be a sobbing, vomiting mess. Added to that having never been in a battle. I wouldn't know how my fight-flight reactions would go. Maybe I'd just freeze, weapon awkwardly in hand before I was cut down. How would i even know to use a weapon? Even the lowliest bandit in Thedas would have a massive one-up on me. 

 

Taking in all the other factors; technology or lack thereof, the travelling, the responsibilities of thousands of lives all on you, the politics and the pressure. Most of all, being away from my family and friends, worrying about them, the thought of never coming back. No, going to Thedas in any form would probably be more akin to the worst Nightmare imaginable which no amount of interesting characters would be able to compensate for (and who even says they'd actually like you anyway?).

 

It makes for a great daydream, with all the practicalities handwaved away (which most fanfics of that nature do), but when it gets down to a "if a rift opened up in front of you right now, would you step through it?", I'd just grab my dog and run.

 

 

Most of this applies to me as well. I've never fought. I have messed up ankles from multiple sprains. I'm certainly not elflike and graceful :lol:

 

I play dagger-wielding rogues first and generally, I'm drawn to stealth classes. These let me be not-me. I like me, but being not-me for a while can also be quite nice. I'd never want to cut people down with daggers in real life, but RPing is sure fun sometimes.


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It's funny, the wish to be placed in Thedas, IRL. I've sometimes thought about it myself in a kind of "Oh, wouldn't it be amazing to be in Thedas, as the Inquisitor, meeting these brilliant characters."

 

Then of course, my more skeptical, detail oriented side of me screams "Nooooo, that would be absolutely horrible."

 

Thinking on it practically, I'd fail immediately at being the Inquisitor in all respects. Doesn't matter if i went down as me or as a Elf or a Mage, I'd just insta-fail. Firstly because, I've never fought in my life. I worked in a hospital to get me through uni from the age of about 17 - 23. I saw wounds and injuries and tons of blood. I also saw death. But to actually kill. To physically take a life, even in self defense, never mind the amount of fighting your group does. Nope. I'd just be a sobbing, vomiting mess. Added to that having never been in a battle. I wouldn't know how my fight-flight reactions would go. Maybe I'd just freeze, weapon awkwardly in hand before I was cut down. How would i even know to use a weapon? Even the lowliest bandit in Thedas would have a massive one-up on me. 

 

Taking in all the other factors; technology or lack thereof, the travelling, the responsibilities of thousands of lives all on you, the politics and the pressure. Most of all, being away from my family and friends, worrying about them, the thought of never coming back. No, going to Thedas in any form would probably be more akin to the worst Nightmare imaginable which no amount of interesting characters would be able to compensate for (and who even says they'd actually like you anyway?).

 

It makes for a great daydream, with all the practicalities handwaved away (which most fanfics of that nature do), but when it gets down to a "if a rift opened up in front of you right now, would you step through it?", I'd just grab my dog and run.

 

Walking in on Corypheus + Justinia like

 

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Art post time. :P

 

Non-Trespasser Art

 

Venture forth! (Final Fantasy and Dragon Age crossover. :D)

 

Which the more I look at it, should be alternately titled;

 

"Anders, Solas and Cole rushing to the stage to perform "Yellow Submarine", as part of their Beatles tribute act..."

 

;)


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