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[roselavellan]

I am fairly certain that was what I had to do to get the cookies scene.  I played it as trying to see it from her point of view.  Or I was straight up lying to her because sometimes it just isn't worth it to be 'right'. 

 

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And to me it was worth it in the long run because I really loved her content in Trespasser.  She has grown a lot.

 

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So one has to lie to her and pander to her close-mindedness  to get her to mature in the DLC. Bioware seems to like counterintuitive choices  

[Solas]

here found it leli slides warning trespass spoilers 

[midnight tea]

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.... Oy, has anyone here tried to take the "I agree with your goal" option with befriended elf Inquisitor (Lavellan who ended the romance)?

 

Here's what happens:

 

Lavellan: "Let me help you, Solas"
Solas: "You cannot"

Lavellan: "You want to restore the elven people. I would give my life for that."
Solas: "Would you give the life of every friend you have ever known?"

Solas: "There is no glory here, only a price I alone will pay"

 

Goddamnit Solas    He prefers to kill Quizzies rather than to corrupt their soul *cries*

[Solas]

^ rad

[Solas]

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.... Oy, has anyone here tried to take the "I agree with your goal" option with befriended elf Inquisitor (Lavellan who ended the romance)?

 

Here's what happens:

 

Lavellan: "Let me help you, Solas"
Solas: "You cannot"

Lavellan: "You want to restore the elven people. I would give my life for that."
Solas: "Would you give the life of every friend you have ever known?"

Solas: "There is no glory here, only a price I alone will pay"

 

Goddamnit Solas    He prefers to kill Quizzies rather than to corrupt their soul *cries*

if you have tumblr, post this! i'll reblog it. it's awesome.

[Cee]

So I managed to fall lightly asleep for about 20-30 minutes and had a dream where my door was mysteriously left partly open, sacks were in my hall, I was apparently at BioWare with members of the DA team along with someone else  and told 'this was it, and asked if we had anything else to say' and they gave us some weird iPods with glowy circle thing that slipped over your left hand. And I had jellybeans.  I got a mysterious call and something something Solas in a safehouse. The jellybeans spilled onto the floor of my apartment. I was not happy. Forget the mysterious door mystery, ....my jellybeans.

 

What the hell?

[midnight tea]

if you have tumblr, post this! i'll reblog it. it's awesome.

 

Sadly no - I mean I have an account, but it's blank for now^^;

[Uirebhiril]

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.... Oy, has anyone here tried to take the "I agree with your goal" option with befriended elf Inquisitor (Lavellan who ended the romance)?

 

Here's what happens:

 

Lavellan: "Let me help you, Solas"
Solas: "You cannot"

Lavellan: "You want to restore the elven people. I would give my life for that."
Solas: "Would you give the life of every friend you have ever known?"

Solas: "There is no glory here, only a price I alone will pay"

 

Goddamnit Solas    He prefers to kill Quizzies rather than to corrupt their soul *cries*

 

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Yep. That's what I thought, and I said as much the other day. Glad to know I was right. Sort of.

 

[LobselVith8]

I love Charter. That is all.

Charter and Harding could be the ones to rope the new protagonist into the organization. There are three taking over, similar to Leliana, Josephine, and Cullen serving as the three advisors.

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Maybe Solas tries to conscript an elven main character to his side.

[Cee]

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.... Oy, has anyone here tried to take the "I agree with your goal" option with befriended elf Inquisitor (Lavellan who ended the romance)?

 

Here's what happens:

 

Lavellan: "Let me help you, Solas"
Solas: "You cannot"

Lavellan: "You want to restore the elven people. I would give my life for that."
Solas: "Would you give the life of every friend you have ever known?"

Solas: "There is no glory here, only a price I alone will pay"

 

Goddamnit Solas    He prefers to kill Quizzies rather than to corrupt their soul *cries*

 

Yes, I did this. I think I unintentionally managed to hit all of the max feels options.

 

Edit - oops.

 

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Ah you said befriended. Yeah, the romance dialogue is different. That was my unintentional max feels happened.

 

 

[Mims]

Interesting! His response suggests

 

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elves will probably survive elfpocalypse. 

[Moondreamer01]

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.... Oy, has anyone here tried to take the "I agree with your goal" option with befriended elf Inquisitor (Lavellan who ended the romance)?

 

Here's what happens:

 

Lavellan: "Let me help you, Solas"
Solas: "You cannot"

Lavellan: "You want to restore the elven people. I would give my life for that."
Solas: "Would you give the life of every friend you have ever known?"

Solas: "There is no glory here, only a price I alone will pay"

 

Goddamnit Solas    He prefers to kill Quizzies rather than to corrupt their soul *cries*

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"all the friend you have ever known"? What stranger phrasing. I've been unconvinced by the time travel hypothesis, but this seems to give weight.

[_Lucinia]

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So one has to lie to her and pander to her close-mindedness  to get her to mature in the DLC. Bioware seems to like counterintuitive choices  

No that's not what I am saying at all. 

 

People mentioned a lot of other ways they still managed to befriend her while still disagreeing with her after Temple of Mythal.  I was talking about how it was the conversation that finally bumped me enough approval to get the cookie scene.  I was a dummy and didn't flirt with Harding.  I had done too much helping in the Hinterlands before I recruited her so I missed out on a lot of approval gains.  I apologize for failing to go into greater detail about my PT.  But that was how I personally roleplayed it to get the scene because of previous choices I had made or failed to make. 

[OxidantsHappen]

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So one has to lie to her and pander to her close-mindedness  to get her to mature in the DLC. Bioware seems to like counterintuitive choices  

 

The only time you have to somewhat agree with her is if you are in a romance with her & want to continue the romance.  Even then, the game allows you to "reluctantly" agree by her telling you that if you care then you'll just tell her what she wants to hear.  Kind of like when your girlfriend asks if this dress makes her look fat & even if it totally does but you lie to keep your relationship (&your extremities) intact. 

[BoscoBread]

The only time you have to somewhat agree with her is if you are in a romance with her & want to continue the romance.  Even then, the game allows you to "reluctantly" agree by her telling you that if you care then you'll just tell her what she wants to hear.  Kind of like when your girlfriend asks if this dress makes her look fat & even if it totally does but you lie to keep your relationship (&your extremities) intact. 

Yeah.  Presumably, at that point, a romanced dalish elf would know what sera was about anyway and to them, dealing with her hangups, would be worth it.  

[roselavellan]

No that's not what I am saying at all. 

 

People mentioned a lot of other ways they still managed to befriend her while still disagreeing with her after Temple of Mythal.  I was talking about how it was the conversation that finally bumped me enough approval to get the cookie scene.  I was a dummy and didn't flirt with Harding.  I had done too much helping in the Hinterlands before I recruited her so I missed out on a lot of approval gains.  I apologize for failing to go into greater detail about my PT.  But that was how I personally roleplayed it to get the scene because of previous choices I had made or failed to make. 

 

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that was what you said. That is, however, what I'm more or less getting from all the approval actions necessary for Sera. Perhaps she and I has just diametrically opposed.

 

I always ally with the mages and exile the wardens. And I rarely flirt with Harding, and almost never give in to her anti-elf rants. And I remember our argument after the the Lord Harmond incident got me an enormous amount of disapproval from her. Our "friendship" was an unmitigated disaster.

 

Edit: Oh! And Sera hates all my Sit in Judgment decisions!

 

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I do want to try again though, I'm curious to see Sera mature.

[BoscoBread]

Hey guys did you hear this regarding Solas? 

 

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Someone said they found a codex entry hinting Solas may have been a Fade spirit made flesh by Mythal.

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Ive heard that theory bandied about since the game came out. If you can find it that would be excellent

[_Lucinia]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that was what you said. That is, however, what I'm more or less getting from all the approval actions necessary for Sera. Perhaps she and I has just diametrically opposed.

 

I always ally with the mages and exile the wardens. And I rarely flirt with Harding, and almost never give in to her anti-elf rants. And I remember our argument after the the Lord Harmond incident got me an enormous amount of disapproval from her. Our "friendship" was an unmitigated disaster.

 

Edit: Oh! And Sera hates all my Sit in Judgment decisions!

 

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I do want to try again though, I'm curious to see Sera mature.

Well I guess my only advice is to maybe try a PT where you don't make those choices.  I would never presume to tell someone how to play their game.  I have a tendency in most RPGs to make almost the same choices every time I replay it.  If you're really curious about seeing how Sera's friendship can be when you're not butting heads, maybe try a run where you don't exile the Wardens.  I know that can be difficult to do sometimes if a choice feels way too wrong.  There are choices I have never made in Bioware games, even for curiosity sake, just to see the other outcomes. 

 

I'm a little more forgiving to Sera's viewpoint because I think back to how I was when I was younger, 18-21.  Such an idealist, and so set in my beliefs that it went beyond being stubborn.  Thankfully I got older and grew out of that frame of mind. 

[Mims]

I don't think it is a codex entry. It's a line Cole says during the DLC.

 

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"He did not want a body. But she asked him to come. He left a scar when he burned her off his face."

"Bare-faced but free, frolicking fighting, fierce. He wants to give wisdom, not orders."

 

Solas has a scar on his forehead, and Mythal's vallaslin also sits on the forehead. Mythal also seemed to use Fen'Harel in some capacity, like a guard dog. So theory goes that he was pulled from the fade by Mythal, and then broke free.

 

Keeping in mind that most elves are likely spirits. It could be that Solas was pulled 'too soon' from the fade, if this is true. Another codex talks about spirits spending hundreds of years deciding to materialize on their own.

 

However Cole doesn't identify more than that, so hard to say.

[Mims]

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Ah so that scar on his forehead is from removing her slave markings? This does hint he was a spirit of Wisdom and explains why his friends are other spirits and not people. He sounds liek a babe. A young thing compared to the other Gods. I always found him that way before all of this.

 

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I wouldn't say it is or it isn't. Cole just says 'he', which people have taken to mean Solas. But he is the only character with a forehead scar that I can think of, so it definitely is possible.