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My Lavellan is this way too. She just keeps herself busy with work for the past two years.

 

Mine too, and from what she says to Josie (something along the lines of "after all the dinners and paperwork it's nice to get back into exploring") it doesn't sound like there was a lot of opportunity for anything like that in the two years timeskip. x)


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Yeah, I mean, I caught some flak on the tumbles for this, but it's not like he owes her an explanation for the breakup, especially at the time of the game. He dumps her, it sucks, and staying hung up on it is fine if you want to run with it that way, but I personally find it really weird to make no attempt to move on with your life, especially over a period of two years.

 

That doesn't have to mean finding a new beau, of course, but man, I had a ten-year-long relationship end on a combination of 'it's not you, it's me', 'i like you as a friend', and 'i like this other girl as not a friend', and I was, you know, more or less fine within a month. Not happy about how the relationship ended! And I'm still not sure how I'd react if he said he wanted to try again! but a breakup is only the end of the world for a fairly short period of time.

And the thing is "moving on" isn't black and white.  

 

Like when you're ex come back with a clear face lift and saying really romantic things like ending the world...you're going to feel things even if you were pretty over it. 

 

My Lavellan moved on in the way she was convinced he would never return and that was that. So she slept around.  Worked. Hung out with Sera and Dorian when she could.  If someone came along that was important to her she would have pursued it.  

 

However, I think it makes sense that the game sort of forces you to be a bit hung up on him at the end. It would almost make no sense for a more...middle of the road....reaction with him as it stands now. It's all in or not. Because he's all in.   


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I'm a terrible tumblr friend I know *slinks off in shaaaaaame*
 

I was unsure what my Lavellan would do until Trespasser dropped, and I realized it was a two year gap. Busy with work is absolutely fine for other Lavellans, but mine would be pretty damn cranky if she hadn't gotten laid in two years :P

NOOO!!! You're just welcome to still. We also garnered a lot more followers so it may reach a bigger audience :D


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There's no real difference; in fact, I barely noticed any comments on the arrest at all.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again: there is not nearly enough dom!Lavellan in this fandom :D

Aw, shame. Thanks for the reply!

 

I agree wholeheartedly! I blame the first flirt to a mage!Lavellan Solas gives for that. :P



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And the thing is "moving on" isn't black and white.  

 

Like when you're ex come back with a clear face lift and saying really romantic things like ending the world...you're going to feel things even if you were pretty over it. 

 

My Lavellan moved on in the way she was convinced he would never return and that was that. So she slept around.  Worked. Hung out with Sera and Dorian when she could.  If someone came along that was important to her she would have pursued it.  

 

However, I think it makes sense that the game sort of forces you to be a bit hung up on him at the end. It would almost make no sense for a more...middle of the road....reaction with him as it stands now. It's all in or not. Because he's all in.   

 

I just really appreciate the fact that the game lets you be more angry than sad because he didn't trust you - that's what would really hurt me and my Lavellan. It gives you the opportunity to approach him with different mindsets. Your Lavellan could be entirely sad, or angry, or just diplomatic towards him. You can even break off the romance, after all.

 

Mine also slept around. Not a lot, but a fling here or there. She did a lot of things in two years and learned to appreciate her life more. Even though she was quite mature already, she really became a lot calmer and more collected, less hotheaded. What made her think about Solas were the simple things: Frilly cakes, a stranger saying they hate tea, things like that. But her life definitely consists of more than one ancient elf dude and his knee faces.


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And the thing is "moving on" isn't black and white.  
 
Like when you're ex come back with a clear face lift and saying really romantic things like ending the world...you're going to feel things even if you were pretty over it. 
 
My Lavellan moved on in the way she was convinced he would never return and that was that. So she slept around.  Worked. Hung out with Sera and Dorian when she could.  If someone came along that was important to her she would have pursued it.  
 
However, I think it makes sense that the game sort of forces you to be a bit hung up on him at the end. It would almost make no sense for a more...middle of the road....reaction with him as it stands now. It's all in or not. Because he's all in.


Oh baby. Tell me more about your stupid apocalyptic plans :D 

 

And I agree, Solas is really not the kind of guy who does things by halfsies.  When he cares, he cares so much it tears him up inside.  And when he gives no f***s, he's cold and even downright cruel.  

 

 

NOOO!!! You're just welcome to still. We also garnered a lot more followers so it may reach a bigger audience :D

 

Thanks <3 I'll take you up on that after I've done some polishing.

 

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Yeah, and I have absolutely no problem with the game defining 'yeah, this was an extremely significant relationship to you' because, I mean, the game's giving you lines to colour inside, it's not giving you complete control. So even for a Lavellan who's completely moved on, it's gonna mess with her head. And that works for me, I can deal with that.


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Does anyone know what happens if you take the Inquisition guard into custody when given the choice between her and the Orlesian servant?

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Wow, someone actually asked Weekes this.  :mellow:

 

 

https://twitter.com/...167223368548353

Have you seen some of the jokes Weekes makes on Twitter? What he wrote into the game with characters like Bull? I promise you those sorts of questions don't make him blush.



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Nope, that's it. And that was a diplomatic decision on my part.


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Have you seen some of the jokes Weekes makes on Twitter? What he wrote into the game with characters like Bull? I promise you those sorts of questions don't make him blush.

 

Oh, I'm sure he's fine with it.  I mean, this is the guy who took the creepy Tali sweat thing in his stride.  It's just...sometimes I get frustrated with this need for fandom to poke the creators on everything.

 

 

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That's what I figured too (still out of damn likes AUGH)


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Have you seen some of the jokes Weekes makes on Twitter? What he wrote into the game with characters like Bull? I promise you those sorts of questions don't make him blush.

 

Yeah, it's just still kind of a tacky question to ask, I think. Not a big deal and still probably better than people going 'but why didn't you fulfil my personal unreasonable wishlist'. but yeah. A bit tacky.


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Have you seen some of the jokes Weekes makes on Twitter? What he wrote into the game with characters like Bull? I promise you those sorts of questions don't make him blush.

 

Yeah, but... does it even really matter? A person can write it if they want to, whichever way they want to, and that's all it needs to be. Asking a creator to state definitively one way or another about something like that, when that character's sex life is left up to us to interpret in the first place...

 

I think Solas said it best. "Oh for -- really?"

 

Though I have to admit wondering why a romanced Bull can't be asked what Solas's watch word might be. I'd have loved to see what he came up with. :P


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Yeah, I mean, I caught some flak on the tumbles for this, but it's not like he owes her an explanation for the breakup, especially at the time of the game. He dumps her, it sucks, and staying hung up on it is fine if you want to run with it that way, but I personally find it really weird to make no attempt to move on with your life, especially over a period of two years.

 

That doesn't have to mean finding a new beau, of course, but man, I had a ten-year-long relationship end on a combination of 'it's not you, it's me', 'i like you as a friend', and 'i like this other girl as not a friend', and I was, you know, more or less fine within a month. Not happy about how the relationship ended! And I'm still not sure how I'd react if he said he wanted to try again! but a breakup is only the end of the world for a fairly short period of time.

 

The thing is, people move on with their lives in different ways and at different speeds. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to go and have flings or even be interested in other relationships at the time. Two years isn't 10 years. It's not Lavellan becoming Miss Havisham. You can heal and move forward without jumping into something else, or even want casual flings and such.

 

I'm cool with whatever people want to headcanon for their characters but this notion that if you haven't hooked up with others you're pining away or haven't moved on with your life is a bit silly. Everyone operates differently.


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yeah he won't be phased by it but like the sexual/asexual Solas war just.. headcanon whatever you want, headcanon whatever fetishes and write whatever sexual inclinations or lack thereof into your fic I just don't get the need to.. idk, but who asks JK Rowling 'does Harry Potter like butt play'??? .. likely someone but it's .. weird and distasteful.


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I think people can headcanon whatever the **** they want as long as they leave other people's headcanon out of it.


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Yeah, but... does it even really matter? A person can write it if they want to, whichever way they want to, and that's all it needs to be. Asking a creator to state definitively one way or another about something like that, when that character's sex life is left up to us to interpret in the first place...

 

I think Solas said it best. "Oh for -- really?"

 

Though I have to admit wondering why a romanced Bull can't be asked what Solas's watch word might be. I'd have loved to see what he came up with. :P

Personally, I find it hilarious - I mean like you say, "Oh for - really?" Patrick lampshaded fandom so well with that scene and I love it that he'll play along.



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Wow, someone actually asked Weekes this.  :mellow:

 

 

https://twitter.com/...167223368548353

 

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Yeah, I mean, I caught some flak on the tumbles for this, but it's not like he owes her an explanation for the breakup, especially at the time of the game. He dumps her, it sucks, and staying hung up on it is fine if you want to run with it that way, but I personally find it really weird to make no attempt to move on with your life, especially over a period of two years.

 

That doesn't have to mean finding a new beau, of course, but man, I had a ten-year-long relationship end on a combination of 'it's not you, it's me', 'i like you as a friend', and 'i like this other girl as not a friend', and I was, you know, more or less fine within a month. Not happy about how the relationship ended! And I'm still not sure how I'd react if he said he wanted to try again! but a breakup is only the end of the world for a fairly short period of time.

Just my two cents on what those people giving flak on tumblr might be thinking.

Moving on with life doesn't necessarily mean loving someone else or even sleeping with someone else. It means getting up in the morning, going to work, socializing with friends, keeping up on your hobbies. It's like when someone you love dies. The relationship doesn't end (at least on your end) just because they are no longer around. You keep living, but you also keep them in your heart. If there was a chance to reunite you might hold on to that relationship--that love--even tighter. 

 

Solas dumped her, but he called her vhenan as he did so. He told her he couldn't say he didn't care. Then he says "what we had was real" right before he leaves in the base game. Yes, he ended their courtship, but the love never ended. Why he broke it off is more important than the fact that he did. He was hurting himself as much or more so than he was hurting Lavellan. I suppose players who take offense to Lavellan sleeping around in fanfic probably think her giving up on Solas is selfish. It depends how serious/clingy/empathetic/idealistic your Lavellan is.


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If someone wants to play their Lavellan as not having moved on, who cares. It doesn't mean they play their character as clingy or idealistic. Maybe the character is perfectly independent and realistic, but hasn't found anyone they like. Or maybe they play it like Solas is the great epic love of their life and there will never be another.

 

It's a RPG. There is no "right" answer, and just because someone "thinks they should have moved on" doesn't mean everyone has to play their character that way. I wish people would stop stepping all over other people's headcanon because they think their headcanon is better. This is the same with the sexuality issue, the same with the "did he or did he not sleep with her" issue. It's left up in the air to give people room to play their characters how THEY want, within reasonable confines.

 

People need to get over it. You can think what you want, they can think what they want. Done. Let it ****** go already.


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I'm cool with whatever people want to headcanon for their characters but this notion that if you haven't hooked up with others you're pining away or haven't moved on with your life is a bit silly. Everyone operates differently.

 

My Lavellan had partners and a family -- babies and everything -- in her past. She was content where she was in her life when she met Solas, and then the bastard blindsided her and she fell in love. When it ended, she accepted it and went on doing what she had done before Solas -- lived her life, did her job, and was content to be by herself. She missed him and was confused, but was neither pruding nor pining. She can take or leave the physical side of a relationship, so unless someone else comes along who can knock her sideways with the same emotional and spiritual depth Solas gave her, she'll sit by herself in the nun corner and not give two s**** what anyone thinks about it.

 

Isn't the freedom of headcanon and character creation awesome?

 

Oh oh oh... I forgot Ameridan. Yes. My Lavellan was really strongly attracted to Ameridan. But that was just a physical thing, because damn if they didn't make him look fine. -_-


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The thing is, people move on with their lives in different ways and at different speeds. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to go and have flings or even be interested in other relationships at the time. Two years isn't 10 years. It's not Lavellan becoming Miss Havisham. You can heal and move forward without jumping into something else, or even want casual flings and such.

 

I'm cool with whatever people want to headcanon for their characters but this notion that if you haven't hooked up with others you're pining away or haven't moved on with your life is a bit silly. Everyone operates differently.

 

Oh, sorry if it sounded like I meant that I think she has to be seeing other people to be 'moved on'; that's not what I meant to convey at all. I've just come across a lot of content that was seriously acting as though the breakup didn't/couldn't occur solely because he still loves her, or because he didn't explain why, and so on (and creators who agreed with this position). And that I find legit creepy.

 

He revokes consent to be in an active relationship with her. That's all that's necessary. Doesn't matter how happy anyone was with the outcome. Lavellan needs to move on with her life, somehow, and especially over a period of two years, I'm unsettled by one who doesn't at all. Doesn't mean someone can't/shouldn't write it. But I object to that being portrayed as the ideal.



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If someone wants to play their Lavellan as not having moved on, who cares. It doesn't mean they play their character as clingy or idealistic. Maybe the character is perfectly independent and realistic, but hasn't found anyone they like. Or maybe they play it like Solas is the great epic love of their life and there will never be another.

 

It's a RPG. There is no "right" answer, and just because someone "thinks they should have moved on" doesn't mean everyone has to play their character that way. I wish people would stop stepping all over other people's headcanon because they think their headcanon is better. This is the same with the sexuality issue, the same with the "did he or did he not sleep with her" issue.

 

People need to get over it. You can think what you want, they can think what they want. Done. Let it ****** go already.

I hope you're not thinking I'm stepping someone else's headcanon. I used positive and negative adjectives (like empathetic and clingy) to describe a Lavellan who "stays true to Solas" to be diplomatic. I suppose my diplomacy skills are lacking.

 

I happen to be one of those "didn't move on" folks myself because of the epic love you mentioned. My headcanon is no better than anyone else's. I only wish to facilitate understanding amongst the folks here. Seeking understanding of other people's perspectives is a good thing, I think. 


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Let's be honest here: mostly my Lavellan wanted to get laid again :D  She's capable of decoupling sex and romantic love by this point.

 

And as a player (and occasional fanfic scribbler), I wanted her to have some fun.  She rarely gets the chance to be silly, playful, and easygoing in Solas stuff because I've just been having trouble writing fluff for that character pairing after Trespasser.


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The thing is, people move on with their lives in different ways and at different speeds. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to go and have flings or even be interested in other relationships at the time. Two years isn't 10 years. It's not Lavellan becoming Miss Havisham. You can heal and move forward without jumping into something else, or even want casual flings and such.

 

I'm cool with whatever people want to headcanon for their characters but this notion that if you haven't hooked up with others you're pining away or haven't moved on with your life is a bit silly. Everyone operates differently.

 

Amen.


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