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Anyway... all this talk about Lavellan and what she does with herself between end of the main game and Trespasser - gotta admit that I've been thinking about something somewhat related to that topic for a while and that is: while Solas may have felt like fish out of water in Thedas... how likely it is that Lavellan/approved Quizzy felt so as well?
 
And that's even before the whole Herald of Andraste business or "the burden of wearing the title that all but replaces their name".
 
They may not feel as different as Solas, accept the world as it is, have friends and family that they love dearly - but he implies during balcony scene that while Inquisitor may not be different from anyone else in terms of their body, the difference in either mind or spirit is there, and it is palpable enough to give pause to Solas and eventually they become "real" for him in relatively short time.
 
I can't say that I can't somewhat relate to this - being a person with very different interests compared to people I live around and most members of my family (artist, gamer, someone with pretty liberal views living in bastion of conservatism and traditional values). I love them all to death, but most people I interact on any sort of regular basis can't really give me what I sometimes need in terms of emotional or intellectual sustenance (hence I spend so much time on the Internet, DUH).
 
Makes me think that Quizzy might as well be in similar position. They may feel too much. They may see the world as more nuanced than it is for most people. That must have felt goddamn lonely, even among friends or family they'd give their life for - and then they meet someone who 'gets' them; who feels familiar. Maybe not entirely, but enough to create a deep connection - be it in terms of friendship or more than that.
 
... Kinda makes me think that IF it happened to Quizzies and then Solas left, it might have created a hollow spot no other relationship could fill.
 
I suppose causal flings or finding people with whom Quizzies connect on different level is not impossible, especially for those who'd REALLY need it - but taking into account all this, plus what The Lone Shadow has said about people outside of the inner circle having a hard time seeing more than the title (something that the game itself addressed more than a few times), I must come to a conclusion that at least my Lavellan (this is purely my headcanon territory here) would have a really hard time to even try and justify being with someone else. It wouldn't feel right (dare I say it wouldn't feel 'real'?), nor perhaps even fair for the person they might attempt to form new relationship with.
 
...Also - don't you think that it would also make the mission to redeem Solas even more personal as well? That way Quizzy may not just try and prove Solas that the world is worth saving, but that there is place for them both in it as well? It would make for a very interesting internal conflict, IMO.

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About moving on:
 
My Lavellan definitely did not move on. But for me, moving on means to let go of all hopes of seeing/loving him again. And of course, that just wouldn't happen. Solas is and will always be her one great love. Not moving on doesn't mean no flings though. (And I'm still trying to find a good fling partner for her... coming up blank though... Not Cullen, since he's pro-templar and she's pro-mage... Sera's difficult... IB - not going there... Blackwall? Josie's just not the fling type...).
 
I have a question for anyone who might know/be interested:
 
On the balcony, when he says "ar lath ma vhenan", the subtitles say "ar lath ma, vhenan", but when GDL says it, it sounds like "ar lath, ma vhenan". Or am I wrong? Which would be more correct?


My Mage Lavellen would have a fling with Cullen. With no regrets (she'll be happy, she's attracted towards him, although she romanced Solas, to be abandoned, yet again by him!) she still loves Solas, but I wish for my Lavellen to be happy (and not mopping over being abanonded yet again by her lover).

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Oh I almost forgot the funniest thing in Trespasser!

 

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I thought of something today.

The reason for Solas' new look...

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I think I've finally settled on a new icon. Luca's sadface was making me sad, and Laderalan is a sarcastic little ray of sunshine in comparison.

 

 

I think it's how he says it. He seems to pause a bit and it comes off awkward.

 

Oh and is it just me, or does Cullen always seem to have this vibe that makes me think if I asked to date him and was completely over Soals, he would say yes? I blame Greg for that. Cullen always seems to look at the Inquisitor with so much adoration after Haven. 

 

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There were some glances between the Inquisitor and Cullen that made me feel terrible that I didn't romance him, because he clearly adores them. I may have to go back and attempt him instead of Solas for once, as I already have two heartbroken Lavellans.



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ok im thinking to do something crazy as i always get the mages i was thinking to go for the templars just to see the story so i decide ill make 4 mages party :D. I just cant decide if im going for Dorian or for Solas again... i want to try Dorian im even willing to make a male char, i never play male if i have the choice, but ill NEVER use a mode for Dorian. I like him the way he is, I am Bi and im not ashamed of it.

About Fenris and Anders , first time i play DA 2 i romanced Anders and i loved it, but my 2nd time i found Fenris and that was it ....

BTW i have a question for you all :

If there is Apostate in DA 4 will you romance him/her *evil grin*



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I have to say....I don't know if the writers did this on purpose or it was just me thinking "Cullen is really cute" but I always got the vibe that Cullen was into my Lavellan. Even with him being all "WTF are you doing freeing mages?!?!?!?!" So, I always felt really bad because it was like Cullen was in the ultimate friendzone with my Lavellan. After she got over being scared of him.....cause of the whole ex-templar thing.

 

....I would feel awful to have my Lavellan have a fling with Cullen though. =(

 

Cullen deserves happiness just like Lavellan does........

 

 

......oh no.

 

no no no

 

 

no

 

*buries head under pillow hoping headcanon goes away*


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I have to say....I don't know if the writers did this on purpose or it was just me thinking "Cullen is really cute" but I always got the vibe that Cullen was into my Lavellan. Even with him being all "WTF are you doing freeing mages?!?!?!?!" So, I always felt really bad because it was like Cullen was in the ultimate friendzone with my Lavellan. After she got over being scared of him.....cause of the whole ex-templar thing.

 

....I would feel awful to have my Lavellan have a fling with Cullen though. =(

 

Cullen deserves happiness just like Lavellan does........

 

 

......oh no.

 

no no no

 

 

no

 

*buries head under pillow hoping headcanon goes away*

 

I felt that way too. My Lavellan adored him too, but he was her Commander and she not only respected him, but admired him and knew that with his struggles and his past feelings for Amell, her broken and impossible to mend heart would not help. She was grateful he never left her though and always promised to return if she needed him.


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I have a question for anyone who might know/be interested:

 

On the balcony, when he says "ar lath ma vhenan", the subtitles say "ar lath ma, vhenan", but when GDL says it, it sounds like "ar lath, ma vhenan". Or am I wrong? Which would be more correct?

 

I honestly don't think it makes a difference to the translation as far as it goes, tbh. Remember the words are chosen for euphony; there's no defined preference as far as vocal stress goes. 


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After Trespasser, my Lavellan

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...Just that Angel was boring and worthless and clearly Spike was the best.

 
 

ANGEL WAS THE BEST.

 
 

There are few things I will IRL fight people about and that is one of them. 
 
GET OUT OF HERE.  LOOK AT HIM!!!

 
 

NO. ANGEL IS BEST. I'LL FITE YOU.

 
 

Psh, Spike all the way...


This would be a good time to say something that gets me dog piled, wouldn't it? All ya'll are clearly wrong and need to report to the Ben-Hassrath reeducators. Angel and Spike are both ridiculously hot and deliciously angsty.

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They both get all of my Rawrs. My favorite eps of Angel were when they had to team up. It was fantastic. But! I can't stand Buffy. That's right. So the answer to this argument is naturally Angel (the series) > Buffy (the series) because there's so much less of her in it and that's always important. :3

But just in case you need further proof. Here it is.

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Totally off-topic but I used BtVS (starting at season 4, 25 year-old me appreciates Riley a lot more than 16 year-old me)  as a means to help me through the boring* bits of DAI when I was racing to get a main save ready for Trespasser and about ready to drop the game altogether, and I have to say I'm so happy to see it mentioned here. ^^ Spike's the best.

 

Hearts for everyone if I didn't like your comment. <3

 

* Not to say there is such a thing as a boring bit in DAI, but I've only ever had 2 completed saves of DAI, but I've ran Emprise du Lion, Emerald Graves, and Exalted Plains at least 6 times.



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ok im thinking to do something crazy as i always get the mages i was thinking to go for the templars just to see the story so i decide ill make 4 mages party :D. I just cant decide if im going for Dorian or for Solas again... i want to try Dorian im even willing to make a male char, i never play male if i have the choice, but ill NEVER use a mode for Dorian. I like him the way he is, I am Bi and im not ashamed of it.

About Fenris and Anders , first time i play DA 2 i romanced Anders and i loved it, but my 2nd time i found Fenris and that was it ....

BTW i have a question for you all :

If there is Apostate in DA 4 will you romance him/her *evil grin*

 

We had blood mage Merril, and we could have had blood mage Jowan. I would like a male blood mage from Tevinter who is charming like Dorian but darker and mysterious and NOT all drama and this relationship ends badly as almost all mage ones do!

 

 

After Trespasser, my Lavellan

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Don't you love it when the game plays itself out like a beautiful but tragic love story you get so caught up in, you aren't even aware that fate stepped in?


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Ok im making Male char and going for Dorian and ill try really hard ( and most likely fail epic) to ignore Solas ....

On 2nd though ill make it human ...


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Do your best to stick with it, Dorian's is super sweet and really refreshing after one of the heavier romances, it's a wonderful change of pace.



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This thread makes me sad now. 

 

I don't imagine my girl "got over" him or "moved on," and she definitely didn't have flings since she's young, asexual, and Solas is her only love.

 

While she didn't melt into a puddle of her own tears or lie catatonic in his study, gazing hollowly at his frescos, she was sad, grieved, missed him while he was gone, and kept searching for him and hoping for the day they'd be together again. While I imagine she kept busy with the Inquisiton, staying positive that she could make a difference for elves everywhere and eventually find him again (her smile at the sunset in the end seems to say, "I know you're out there, and I will find you")... she still missed him. There's nothing wrong with missing someone you love after they leave.  :(

 

On a side note, last night my Origin said there was a conflict between saves, and asked whether I wanted to go with my Cloud save or desktop save files. I clicked cloud, then found that all my saves from the last six months were missing. My entire Qunari Inquisitor, 30+ hours of my "perfectionist Solavellan playthrough," and all my Trespasser saves from my "imperfect Solavellan playthrough." Does anyone know how I can access my other saves again?  :(


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This thread makes me sad now. 

 

I don't imagine my girl "got over" him or "moved on," and she definitely didn't have flings since she's young, asexual, and Solas is her only love.

 

While she didn't melt into a puddle of her own tears or lie catatonic in his study, gazing hollowly at his frescos, she was sad, grieved, missed him while he was gone, and kept searching for him and hoping for the day they'd be together again. While I imagine she kept busy with the Inquisiton, staying positive that she could make a difference for elves everywhere and eventually find him again (her smile at the sunset in the end seems to say, "I know you're out there, and I will find you")... she still missed him. There's nothing wrong with missing someone you love after they leave.  :(

 

On a side note, last night my Origin said there was a conflict between saves, and asked whether I wanted to go with my Cloud save or desktop save files. I clicked cloud, then found that all my saves from the last six months were missing. My entire Qunari Inquisitor, 30+ hours of my "perfectionist Solavellan playthrough," and all my Trespasser saves from my "imperfect Solavellan playthrough." Does anyone know how I can access my other saves again?  :(

Different strokes for different folks.  

 

You are not alone given the discussion above. But I think it's great that there are a wonderful variety of personalities.  And as long as people are respectful, talking about why their Lavellan is a certain way is cool.  They are just sharing their character with people and what better place to do it than on here. Noone is saying either is wrong. 

 

It's the same thing about did Solas and Lavellan do the do. Both are valid. 

 

The other saves should be there.  They are saved on your hard drive. 



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Don't you love it when the game plays itself out like a beautiful but tragic love story you get so caught up in, you aren't even aware that fate stepped in?


What I like about her, specifically, is that she's blatantly more compatible with Sera than Solas. But life sometimes plays out in weird ways. Even now, she still has that tension of Sera being "the one that got away", yet couldn't imagine being with anyone but Solas.

I think about this song, sometimes, when I play her: http://m.youtube.com...h?v=Gaid72fqzNE ;)

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On Cullen: Nope nope NOPE.  I already inflicted the really twisted one-sided crush with Amell on Cullen in my canon playthrough, which he's mercifully outgrown as of Inquisition.  He is firmly in elder brother territory to my Lavellan.  And yes, you can easily headcanon that he has a thing for Lavellan too, but I simply choose not to.  I actually like him now.  I don't want him to turn back into the poor damaged fool from DA:O.
 
My Adaar flirted with him though :D  Because Adaar flirts with everyone!

Do your best to stick with it, Dorian's is super sweet and really refreshing after one of the heavier romances, it's a wonderful change of pace.


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I didn't. I love that line, but at that point, my Lavellan was trying to be the grown-up and hold it together because everyone ELSE was running around like chickens with their heads cut off. But the stunned silence that follows her outburst is just priceless.
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Actually, yeah.

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I'd like to take a moment to deviate a little from the Lavellan side of the discussion to speculate as to what bioware has in store regarding Solas's future. In all likelihood, in my honest opinion I think he will ultimately fail in his mission to restore the elves to their former glory which I personally find to be a little sad because I really like the character and I don't want to see him pushed into to becoming the next great enemy of Thedas destined to die though I'm sure that's what will ultimately happen with him mainly because there is just no way the writers are going to wipeout the other races; but also because I feel that taking that oh so predictable route passes up what could otherwise be an interesting opportunity to further the dynamics of Thedas. For instance, with the vail lowered magic in Thedas flows freely, unobstructed from the fade into the world as it did before the vail was created making mages that much more powerful. The same goes for both spirits/demons. This could give rise to the creation of new factions throughout the nations of Thedas consisting of mages, former/active Templars (depending on canonical development), qunari, etc. all of whom come together out of their shared concerns regarding the state the world now finds itself in as they seek to restore it back to the way it was before either by recreating the vail or something similar allowing magic to once again be regulated but also as a way to reign in the elves due to the fact that without the vail to block their connection to the fade, many would consider them a serious threat to the other nations as they would most likely possess the greatest magical talent surpassing even the most skilled practitioners humanity has to offer with potentially no real deterrent keeping them from conquering their neighbors causing humanity to scramble for an adequate answer resulting in the two races jockeying for control. In full disclosure I prefer the elves to the other races and find the prospect of their restoration appealing, but like I said I doubt that will happen. I've already seen early reports that the next chapter in the story will take place in a new comic series surrounding a pair of assassins from Tevinter who specialize in the hunting and killing of mages. The series is set to be called "Mage Killer" I believe. Gee I wonder who their next target will be? If true this just goes to show that the writers would rather maintain the status quo rather than up the ante. At least that's how I see it. Feel free to respond if you agree or not.
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After Trespasser, my Lavellan

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I like that. Yes, friendship would be more than enough in this situation, since she's still in love with Solas.

 

To be honest, you know who my Lavellan really wants to hang out with? Lord Trifles Minutiae! I think my Lavellan would have the best time in the tavern with Varric and Trifles, maybe they could drink and play games all night. That would be better than any fling.


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Nah my Lavellan is NOT over Solas at all, she cry when no one cant see her, and makes plans how to find and stop him ( stop as in makes him see hes wrong , not in kill him way) , and they will be together and happy in the end. Solas just have no idea what he got in when he romanced my Lavellan....

 

PS. i suck at character creation .... i like my male human , i really do but i cant make him as pretty as you guys do