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[NeverlandHunter]

 

Obsessions are not easily repressed. The news of ancient elves being alive alone would only spark her obsession back up. Granted, I always saw Merrill as a child, playing with forces she couldn't possibly understand. Silly and naive, laced with a dangerous sort of stubborn ego. Mixed all up with Blood Magic. Not my favorite character.

I understand where you're coming from, I couldn't stand Merrill during my first playthrough. She was powerful and so naive it bordered on moronic, two traits that don't mix. But as I played my second playthrough as all around nice and empathetic person I began to understand Merrill more and cherish the innocence she brought to our ragtag group of rogues. I agree that she is silly, she is naive, and she does have a dangerous sort of ego, but she has grown so much since the beginning of DA2. She's had more than 10 years of of experiencing the effect her pride can have, of understanding what true suffering is, and of finding happiness regardless of it all.

 

I'm not saying it would be easy on her, it's not going to be, but she has the support and love of her family to keep her grounded. In a lot of ways I see Merrill's journey as a mirror of my Lavellan's. They both were a bit naive about the world (Merrill more so from her lack of human interaction), they both wanted to preserve elven culture, to know more about their history, but time softened their more radical ideas and integrated them with the rest of the world. They both learned elf isn't always best and you can find lethallin's amongst every people, no matter what they look like.

 

I have a lot of sympathy for Merrill, but I think that's because she reminds me so forcefully of what I was like back in high school/college.  Clever but naive, convinced that I knew better than anyone else, that I was somehow the special-est snowflake who was immune to the consequences of what I did.  She drives me nuts in DA2 (I always rivalried her), but I can't help feeling for her regardless.

I don't think Merrill ever as an individual thinks of herself as better than other people, but as far as her culture goes she does think it's the better (at least in the beginning) you can definitely see this with her conversation with Fenris. She's a sympathetic character if you take the time to know her. 

 

I think every high-schooler thinks they are the special-est little snowflake X).

 

Awww, I like Merrill. I understand her drive to save the past, even if her understanding of it is incomplete. She can be stubborn and naive all at once, but I find it usually more endearing than annoying. 

 

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Anyone else was almost in tears when they saw the libraries. My Quizzie (in headcanon) had to ask her companions to stop a minute so she could catch her breath. She was crying and her heart was breaking at the idea that THIS is what they lost.

Out of likes, but I agree with the Merrill part and my Lavellan was absorbing information and putting it in the back of her mind. She didn't have time to process then.... Poor thing,

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with all this new found information about the Veil, the Crossroads, the Creators, and Solas on top of just loosing him again AND HER ARM.

She has a lot to deal with.

[Janic99]

Awww, I like Merrill. I understand her drive to save the past, even if her understanding of it is incomplete. She can be stubborn and naive all at once, but I find it usually more endearing than annoying. 

 

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Anyone else was almost in tears when they saw the libraries. My Quizzie (in headcanon) had to ask her companions to stop a minute so she could catch her breath. She was crying and her heart was breaking at the idea that THIS is what they lost.

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I feel like my Lavellan had like mixed emotions like she was shocked about the new information and everything that she could not even react to it like she wanted to cry and as well laugh and just scream at the same time because I feel like in her position getting so much new information is so mindblow that you cannot even really react and now I relate to this because that is how I felt with playing the DLC without any spoilers. I laughed I also cried a little but mostly I was confused and intrigued and just... so... like mindblown...

[NeverlandHunter]

With my favourite HoF being my Dalish Elf, I constantly wanted to throttle Merrill for her work on the Eluvian. 

Yay, lets take a shard from the mirrior that essentially killed two of your clan and mess around with it. That'll fix everything. Tsk.

 

I don't totally dislike her character though, and enjoyed having her around with Isabela. But I agree wholeheartedly about the childishness. I find her whole romance option really uncomfortable because I find her to be such a child. Creeps me out so much.

 

It also doesn't help that as a forced Human Protag you aren't supposed to have the elven knowledge to call her out on her BS. You just have to deal with it. As much fun as Sarcastic Hawke is, I missed my Elven Hero so freaking bad in DA2 thanks to characters like Merrill and Anders. Two people she desperately owes a slap in the face to.

Yeah, I would of loved for my male Mahariel Warden to set her strait (he's the quiet reasonable sort0 and my female Mahariel to give her a piece of her mind (she's the brash and opinionated sort). And ANY of my Warden's to shut Anders the fluff up! My Amell would of been all "WHAT did YOU do to Justice!?" Minus the "elves were best before, so I'm a gonna destroy the world as you know it" part she and Solas would of gotten along well.

[BoscoBread]

I have a lot of sympathy for Merrill, but I think that's because she reminds me so forcefully of what I was like back in high school/college.  Clever but naive, convinced that I knew better than anyone else, that I was somehow the special-est snowflake who was immune to the consequences of what I did.  She drives me nuts in DA2 (I always rivalried her), but I can't help feeling for her regardless.

ARe you telling us you experimented Frankstein style? 

 

Sable-stein?  

 

Also yeah - merrill drives me up a wall.  Out of all the elfy companions she's most likely to pop back up for the Thing.  Fenris possibly as well. Zevran no - he's with his love or an assassin king and he never really cared too much about slavery and elfiness.  Vellanna - potentially but she actually cares much more about Dalish as a modern culture. I don't think she'd be happy seeing it destroyed.  

 

My Lavellan is much more like Vellanna except less intense about it.  She's not uber Dalish and would like them to be more integrated into the rest of society but she enjoys their separate culture and it's important to her.  She was like 'ha solas, shut up and kiss me'. or it was more like this:

 

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[Baklava]

After completing the ending with a female mage Lavellan the other races make the game seem dull by comparison. My Qunari is going to be collecting dust for a while.

Damn you Bioware for setting the bar so high. 

 

 

[Jayla]

A lot to catch up on, apologies for the big post!

 

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Just again, to point out, he's pretty devastated sounding and utterly morose when describing his plan to a friend quizzy too. I know it's easy to get swept away with the Lavellan feels and to think of it all through the perspective of a romance, with concerns about her being the only reason he's so sad, but it's far more complex than this.

 

I think, no matter how much he protests, part of him realises that he;s just as bad as Corypheus. Sure, he's not wanting to be a god, not wanting to rule others, but he's still willing to destroy the present to (futility in my opinion) resurrect the past. He engaged with people, playing cards with Blackwall, reading Varric's books, being pranked by Sera or mind chess with Bull. It's spoken aloud with the end of the relationship when Cole says "You're real...and it means everyone else could be real too. It changes everything but it can't." but even without a relationship, I think Solas sees the Inquisitor and, somewhat slower, her companions as real also and starts to realise exactly what he'd be destroying. Not just faceless, tranquil animals but a new form of his People, just as flawed as the old and with just the same amount of potential.

 

However this ends, it won't be with a "only your love will save me" plot. I sincerely hope if there's redemption, it comes from his realisation that however flawed the people in Thedas are now, they deserve to live and not be sacrificed on the alter of his past mistakes.

 

 

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I totally agree with what you're saying, but remember with Trespasser dialogue a romanced Lavellan is the only one who hears him admit he's started seeing them as people, with the line:

 

SOLAS: ... It was like walking through a world of Tranquil.

INQUISITOR: We aren't even people to you.

SOLAS (Romanced): Not at first. You showed me that I was wrong... again. That does not make what must come next any easier.

SOLAS (Friend): The fault is hardly yours. The Veil was my creation, another of my countless mistakes.

 

There's nowhere there that suggests to me he sees people as people with a befriended Inquisitor. I put it more akin to when we walk into that cabin with all the Tranquil skulls, personal feelings about it aside everyone (well, except Bull) makes a point to say how awful it is, and how much of a waste it is. Even Solas for that matter, in my last PT he mentioned it twice!

 

I don't intend to poo-poo on the importance of a Friendmanced Solas when saying this, or to plug my ears singing "tralala" at the mention that the romance isn't sewper-sphechul, I just thought it was worth pointing out since I didn't see anyone else do it. I still agree with your overall point, a Friendmanced Solas doesn't see people as animals, unimportant, they are important. Just as we still feel awful for actual Tranquils who suffer, Solas feels awful for the people he places akin to Tranquil because of what he feels he has to do.

 

I hope I'm making some sort of sense. xD

 

Oh god.     

 

 

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I ended up being glad my quizzy got rid of hers. There's a bit of an emotional lurch when you find that mural of him removing vallaslin. And it's not specific to Solasmancers, but after you find that mural, Sera starts drawing a copy in her journal, and scribbles it out with a little note saying "Not my hurt to keep". She's referring to elves in general, but my first time through IT REALLY FELT LIKE SHE WAS SYMPATHISING WITH INKY ABOUT SOLAS and I got a little teary. 

 

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I didn't actually think about this! I saw her diary referring to the drawing but I didn't connect it to her trying to copy the mural to preserve it! All I thought was "Not my hurt to keep, she's doing a Cole! She almost connected with her past!" URGH! I don't want to warm up to Sera, but how she grows up even over the space of two years is making me. :| Lemme be stubborn.

 

Another. Varric and Bianca have made their choices. They know what's involved. They remain, they clearly care. Bianca made a mistake, but it's a mistake.

 

Count me on the team, I really don't understand the hatred for Bianca. We forgive other companions for so much more, and she did try to fix it.

 

Aren't they adorable together.

 

 

Is that your girl? Do you have faceslides? I can never get the cheekbones exactly how I want them but yours are perfect!

 

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I don't think there can be a happy ending where Solas and my Lavellan ride off into the Emerald Graves and start a family. I just don't see it. There's too much there. 

 

I see a few possible outcomes. Redemption through death for Solas. Redemption through death of both Solas and Lavellan (she sacrifices herself for him, he sacrifices himself and prevents his plan from happening at last second. And then there's the options of him actually bringing the veil down, but I need more information before I can possibly consider outcomes.

 

There's too much power between the two of them, status, influence, known- I think at absolute BEST we can hope for is that SOMEHOW she can stop him and they can try to make a difference with the elves together, side by side. Best case scenario. Even I'm not convinced we can even dare to hope for that.

 

 

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I'm quite worried about the plot because, as you say, redemption through death is set up so clearly here. Even if the Inquisitor or the next protagonist does manage to convince him what he's doing isn't the only way, with Solas being revealed at the end of Trespasser to the Council whether you cover it up or not, everyone is going to be out for his blood. I can't see, even with TO's flag raised high, how they're going to get out of it.

 

... Unless, as someone mentioned further on, that Solas isn't the Big Bad in all this, and we will get to resolve his story before or when the actual Big Bad comes in, and he can redeem himself there in helping with the effort. That's the only way I can see it happening. And I'd love it, to be honest. x) I'm seriously hoping for that setup.

 

Between my Lavellan gaping at everything like a kid in a candy store, Dorian geeking out, and spirit!Cole being Cole, I think Iron Bull really needed to hit something hard

 

That was my team setup exactly! Except with human!Cole... but still!

[Avejajed]

 

Is that your girl? Do you have faceslides? I can never get the cheekbones exactly how I want them but yours are perfect!

 

 

I don't have sliders for her, but it would be easy enough to make them tonight when I get home, if you're interested. I have other pictures of her too.

I think this shows off her cheekbones quite nicely, though this lighting makes her hair look brown when it's really black.

 

[Avejajed]

Also I found this old thing in my Imgur. lol.My old thread rules.  Too bad it's too small to read normally.

 

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[Sable Rhapsody]

ARe you telling us you experimented Frankstein style? 
 
Sable-stein?  
 
Also yeah - merrill drives me up a wall.  Out of all the elfy companions she's most likely to pop back up for the Thing.  Fenris possibly as well. Zevran no - he's with his love or an assassin king and he never really cared too much about slavery and elfiness.  Vellanna - potentially but she actually cares much more about Dalish as a modern culture. I don't think she'd be happy seeing it destroyed.

MWAHAHAHA. Not really. I was just kind of a brat

I'd be really curious to see which characters come out of the woodwork for the end of the world as we know it. I'm not always a fan of returning characters, but in this case, I'd be down for seeing our old elfy friends again.

[AutumnOracle]

Okay I have to interject this because it's been on my mind for a couple of days.  I know it's not popular opinion from way back when...but it won't leave my head so I'm sharing it.

 

In reference to the dialogue 

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Solas: Is there at least a movement to reunite Orzammar and Kal-Sharok?

Varric: What is it with you, Chuckles? Why do you care so much about the dwarves?

Solas: Once, in the Fade, I saw the memory of a man who lived alone on an island. Most of his tribe had fallen to beasts or disease. His wife had died in childbirth. He was the only one left. He could have struck out on his own to find a new land, new people. But he stayed. He spent every day catching fish in a little boat, every night drinking fermented fruit juice and watching the stars.

Varric: I can think of worse lives.

Solas: How can you be happy surrendering, knowing it will all end with you? How can you not fight?

Varric: I suppose it depends on the quality of the fermented fruit juice.

Solas: So it seems.

 

I know that this has traditionally been held as the Inquisitor is the juice.  Which in the context of the dialogue I agree.

 

But I can't stop thinking that the scenario has changed since he left.  He's resolved himself to keep fighting (cause that's the harder choice in his opinion than staying with us) when in reality it would actually be harder for him to stay with us and in a way he's on an island drinking himself so pity-party world ending juice right now rather than finding a way to move on and living it up.  I don't know...I can't stop thinking about it that way.   

[Wheels]

Does anyone here happen to know whether

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it is possible to find the schematics for this lovely thing? http://dragonage.wik...Captain's_Knife

It's a little OT, but I don't really post anywhere else, so...

[Avejajed]

Aw! Why is it that every time I wander into this thread, the topic makes me sad or mad?

I thought Merrill was just fine. A brilliant young woman who knew what she was doing and took every necessary precaution. I thought the issue was other people not believing in her and just ASSUMING that they knew better and they knew she couldn't succeed, and sabotaging her right and left.

If Mahariel hadn't refused magical aid to cleanse the shard of the taint, Merrill wouldn't have needed to resort to blood magic. If she hadn't refused to help Merrill research or repair the mirror after it was cleansed (and didn't poison every other elf against Merrill before she could approach or explain her position) she wouldn't have needed to struggle for years or feel she had to resort to asking th e spirit. And finally, IF MAHARIEL HADN'T LET THE DEMON POSSESS HER, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSESSED. It's that simple.

Merrill's quest reeks of Paternalism and condescension. "You poor, simple, stupid, naive, helpless little child. You can't handle this big hard magic by yourself. You need me to stop you because you're not smart or capable enough to make your own informed decisions."

I see it with the deaf kids I work with every day and I find it repulsive. Merrill is an adult who is capable of making informed decisions, and treating her like a child who needs to be restrained or had decisions made for her "for her own good" is disgusting.

Just for this, I hope Merrill's eluvian (if it wasn't shattered) plays a huge part in the next game. Perhaps the one working eluvian Solas didn't notice because it was beneath notice, and it plays a major part in catching up with and stopping him. (I know it likely won't, or if it is used in that scenario then we will use another eluvian in the case that she did break it. But still. I think Merrill deserves to be vindicated.)

 

Don't take it personally. I just disagree. Not trying to make you or anyone else mad. Also, please don't compare how I treat a fictional character to how I might treat a real life child or adult with disabilities.  Not the same thing. 

[NeverlandHunter]

HEY I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!!!!

 

So, Thedas isn't the only continent because the humans and Qunari came from somewhere else...and since Thedas is like an upside down Western Europe then I'm led to believe their is an upside down Asia, Africa, Americas, ect. out there.

 

So from what we know about the Veil and the Fade and the "real" world

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That there was a time when the Fade and the waking world were one, does this mean Solas affected the WHOLE world? There must be other lands and magics and "gods". If the Veil was cross continents how would it have affected other peoples?

It's crazy how much of the world is open, I wish we knew more, even though I know Thedas is The Dragon Age Setting! This is actually one of my pet peeves with the fantasy genre, it's always (not always I know, but mostly) set in their pseudo-Western European setting and the rest of the world is never/barely even acknowledged. Why is Thedas the center of world anyway, wouldn't the Eluvians have traveled cross continents? Couldn't Solas make his plans somewhere else? Or maybe he and the Creators had no control over the rest of the world, because of differing magic? I know this is all speculation and will never be answered, but I can't help but wonder. What do you guys think?

[BoscoBread]

HEY I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!!!!

 

So, Thedas isn't the only continent because the humans and Qunari came from somewhere else...and since Thedas is like an upside down Western Europe then I'm led to believe their is an upside down Asia, Africa, Americas, ect. out there.

 

So from what we know about the Veil and the Fade and the "real" world

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That there was a time when the Fade and the waking world were one, does this mean Solas affected the WHOLE world? There must be other lands and magics and "gods". If the Veil was cross continents how would it have affected other peoples?

It's crazy how much of the world is open, I wish we knew more, even though I know Thedas is The Dragon Age Setting! This is actually one of my pet peeves with the fantasy genre, it's always (not always I know, but mostly) set in their pseudo-Western European setting and the rest of the world is never/barely even acknowledged. Why is Thedas the center of world anyway, wouldn't the Eluvians have traveled cross continents? Couldn't Solas make his plans somewhere else? Or maybe he and the Creators had no control over the rest of the world, because of differing magic? I know this is all speculation and will never be answered, but I can't help but wonder. What do you guys think?

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The qunaris came from a testtube - it's heavily hinted at in this dlc that ghilanain created them. they are elves possibly mixed with dragon's blood.  the theory is they were used for more powerful blood sacrifices.  

 

but yes thedas is NOT the only continent.  we know that dwarves - a long long time ago - came over from another dying titan.  it's possible that this continent is just one titan. 

[NeverlandHunter]

ARe you telling us you experimented Frankstein style? 

 

Sable-stein?  

 

Also yeah - merrill drives me up a wall.  Out of all the elfy companions she's most likely to pop back up for the Thing.  Fenris possibly as well. Zevran no - he's with his love or an assassin king and he never really cared too much about slavery and elfiness.  Vellanna - potentially but she actually cares much more about Dalish as a modern culture. I don't think she'd be happy seeing it destroyed.  

 

My Lavellan is much more like Vellanna except less intense about it.  She's not uber Dalish and would like them to be more integrated into the rest of society but she enjoys their separate culture and it's important to her.  She was like 'ha solas, shut up and kiss me'. or it was more like this:

 

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Sooo romantic XD I kept listening to it because I wanted to see if it had any other lyrics and then it was like I was caught in a trance.

 

Ah, yes Velanna. I doubt she'd be coming back though, the Keep didn't ask if she survived

 

MWAHAHAHA. Not really. I was just kind of a brat

I'd be really curious to see which characters come out of the woodwork for the end of the world as we know it. I'm not always a fan of returning characters, but in this case, I'd be down for seeing our old elfy friends again.

BLASPHEMY IN THE HIGHEST FORM! 

I live for the little cameos and how are they doings! I wish we only had more and anything on characters we haven't heard from (Oghren, Sigrun, Velanna, even Shale only got a little remark in DA2). 

[Avejajed]

Speaking of Ghilly- does anyone have the Trespasser codex's that mention her?

[OhDaniGirl28]

One thing I found interesting about Solas in Trespasser was

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his complete lack of mage staff.

Perhaps he has moved on from the need of such primitive things.

[AutumnOracle]

I'm currently reading the World of Thedas Volume two.  It's taking longer than usual(cause I'm forum posting/reading) and there is SOOOOO much that they elude to beyond just elves that has to be dealt with.  A good example that comes to mind is figuring out what Mythal told Marric as Flemeth during her prophecy session and how that ties into the blood of Calehad. Lots of Tevinter lore(probably answered in the next game).  Lots of other things going on with Antiva and other continents.  

 

 

So while a lot seems like it's coming to a head.  I truly feel like they are still building the climax point of the 5 game series.  This is why I think Solas gets resolved mid game DA4(or at the very latest end game) and we get a reveal of the bigger baddies/things not revealed yet and another giant cliffhanger into the fifth game. 

[NeverlandHunter]

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The qunaris came from a testtube - it's heavily hinted at in this dlc that ghilanain created them. they are elves possibly mixed with dragon's blood.  the theory is they were used for more powerful blood sacrifices.  

 

but yes thedas is NOT the only continent.  we know that dwarves - a long long time ago - came over from another dying titan.  it's possible that this continent is just one titan. 

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They've been hinting around for awhile that the Qunari are the result of some type of unholy mixture with a person and a dragon, but I competely missed the Ghilan'nain hints! I thought they came from the north? 

I need to play the Descent 

I wonder if that other species that Gaider (I think it was him) hinted about will become canon and actually make an appearance.

[BoscoBread]

@NeverlandHunter - this DLC try wandering around and going into other nooks and crannies

 

alright im off

[NeverlandHunter]

One thing I found interesting about Solas in Trespasser was

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his complete lack of mage staff.

Perhaps he has moved on from the need of such primitive things.

I 100% did not even notice! Of course

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Neither Lavellan or Solas have their tool on them, but it definitely looks like Solas doesn't need one anymore I wonder what he did with all my crap that I had equipped to him before he left? I'm going to headcanon he keeps them in a trunk somewhere because he couldn't bear to get rid of them.

[RedMagister]

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There's a video with a semi low approval elf who asks Solas that she wants to join him

it's a bit different.

[NeverlandHunter]

I'm currently reading the World of Thedas Volume two.  It's taking longer than usual(cause I'm forum posting/reading) and there is SOOOOO much that they elude to beyond just elves that has to be dealt with.  A good example that comes to mind is figuring out what Mythal told Marric as Flemeth during her prophecy session and how that ties into the blood of Calehad. Lots of Tevinter lore(probably answered in the next game).  Lots of other things going on with Antiva and other continents.  

 

 

So while a lot seems like it's coming to a head.  I truly feel like they are still building the climax point of the 5 game series.  This is why I think Solas gets resolved mid game DA4(or at the very latest end game) and we get a reveal of the bigger baddies/things not revealed yet and another giant cliffhanger into the fifth game. 

Other continents or just the other countries? I might actually put the money fourth to by World of Thedas V2... or just go searching through the wiki.

 

@NeverlandHunter - this DLC try wandering around and going into other nooks and crannies

 

alright im off

My first playthrough is always slightly rushed... and I really really wanted to see Solas!

[Jayla]

I don't have sliders for her, but it would be easy enough to make them tonight when I get home, if you're interested. I have other pictures of her too.

I think this shows off her cheekbones quite nicely, though this lighting makes her hair look brown when it's really black.

 

 

I'm very interested. She's so pretty!

 

Also I found this old thing in my Imgur. lol.My old thread rules.  Too bad it's too small to read normally.

 

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I need to print this out and have it on the wall above my computer. xD

 

Aw! Why is it that every time I wander into this thread, the topic makes me sad or mad?

I thought Merrill was just fine. A brilliant young woman who knew what she was doing and took every necessary precaution. I thought the issue was other people not believing in her and just ASSUMING that they knew better and they knew she couldn't succeed, and sabotaging her right and left.

If Mahariel hadn't refused magical aid to cleanse the shard of the taint, Merrill wouldn't have needed to resort to blood magic. If she hadn't refused to help Merrill research or repair the mirror after it was cleansed (and didn't poison every other elf against Merrill before she could approach or explain her position) she wouldn't have needed to struggle for years or feel she had to resort to asking th e spirit. And finally, IF MAHARIEL HADN'T LET THE DEMON POSSESS HER, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSESSED. It's that simple.

Merrill's quest reeks of Paternalism and condescension. "You poor, simple, stupid, naive, helpless little child. You can't handle this big hard magic by yourself. You need me to stop you because you're not smart or capable enough to make your own informed decisions."

I see it with the deaf kids I work with every day and I find it repulsive. Merrill is an adult who is capable of making informed decisions, and treating her like a child who needs to be restrained or had decisions made for her "for her own good" is disgusting.

Just for this, I hope Merrill's eluvian (if it wasn't shattered) plays a huge part in the next game. Perhaps the one working eluvian Solas didn't notice because it was beneath notice, and it plays a major part in catching up with and stopping him. (I know it likely won't, or if it is used in that scenario then we will use another eluvian in the case that she did break it. But still. I think Merrill deserves to be vindicated.)

 

I'll admit this is all I ever saw Merrill as. I'd finished Inquisition before even playing DA2, but I saw my partner play it and at the time Merrill was the only character I enjoyed, and I encouraged him to romance her. Since then (and with the help of tumblr*), I've come to appreciate all the companions in DA2 (especially Fenris *purr*), but Merrill I've remained the same on. It seemed like there was a lot against her, and rather than help her out or - perhaps more importantly - guide her through it (which my Hawke in all her sarcastic beauty did try), too many people were content to tell her she was wrong and that was that. But then again, DA2's constant message was always screaming BLERD MERGIC ERS BERD!

 

Saying that, I did encourage her to shatter the thing. Regardless of where her intentions where and where the fault lay, the mirror had been the direct reason she now can't go back to her clan, and restoring a small piece of Dalish history just wasn't worth what it was doing to her.