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[Illyria]

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There's a video with a semi low approval elf who asks Solas that she wants to join him

it's a bit different.

 

That's the same a high approval/romanced Lavellan, isn't it?

[midnight tea]

That's the same a high approval/romanced Lavellan, isn't it?

 

Yup.

[NeverlandHunter]

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There's a video with a semi low approval elf who asks Solas that she wants to join him

it's a bit different.

Woah,

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every friend you've ever known!? OHMYGOODNESS what does he want to happen?? All the people expect the elves to die?! Would the dwarves survive too since they were originally there? How does the dwarf don't go to the Fade, but the Fade and the waking world were once one even work? I haven't played The Descent yet, so I might be missing something from that, but Andraste's sword!! My Lavellan loves Solas, but she would never try to help him with his plan!

[Jayla]

That's the same a high approval/romanced Lavellan, isn't it?

 

Yes to high approval/friend Inquisitor. Not with a romanced Lavellan though. I posted this a few pages back but here it is again:

 

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LAVELLAN: Let me help you, Solas.

SOLAS: I cannot do that to you, vhenan.

LAVELLAN: But you would do it to yourself? I cannot bear to think of you alone.

SOLAS: I walk the Din'anshiral. There is only death on this journey. I would not have you see what I become.

[NeverlandHunter]

<snip>

 

I'll admit this is all I ever saw Merrill as. I'd finished Inquisition before even playing DA2, but I saw my partner play it and at the time Merrill was the only character I enjoyed, and I encouraged him to romance her. Since then (and with the help of tumblr*), I've come to appreciate all the companions in DA2 (especially Fenris *purr*), but Merrill I've remained the same on. It seemed like there was a lot against her, and rather than help her out or - perhaps more importantly - guide her through it (which my Hawke in all her sarcastic beauty did try), too many people were content to tell her she was wrong and that was that. But then again, DA2's constant message was always screaming BLERD MERGIC ERS BERD!

 

Saying that, I did encourage her to shatter the thing. Regardless of where her intentions where and where the fault lay, the mirror had been the direct reason she now can't go back to her clan, and restoring a small piece of Dalish history just wasn't worth what it was doing to her.

I'm out of likes but I agree!

[Eurowande]

WOOOWWW

damn how did i missed this before if you dont kill Mythal in DA 1, at DA 2 you have 2 of her. When you bring the amulet and Merril do the rite Mythal tells you that shes just a fragment in case Morrigan try to kill her, so did this mean that if you dont kill her in Da 1,  at the end of Inquisition you have 2 Mythal walking around?

[NeverlandHunter]

WOOOWWW

damn how did i missed this before if you dont kill Mythal in DA 1, at DA 2 you have 2 of her. When you bring the amulet and Merril do the rite Mythal tells you that shes just a fragment in case Morrigan try to kill her, so did this mean that if you dont kill her in Da 1,  at the end of Inquisition you have 2 Mythal walking around?

I think her little horcrux just brought her back because she stored a piece of herself in it. I doubt it's an actual full-bodied person.

 

If you've read Harry Potter I'm sure it works like that. There were never multiple He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Nameds running around. It was just like an instant revive. Like an extra life in a video game

[Jayla]

WOOOWWW

damn how did i missed this before if you dont kill Mythal in DA 1, at DA 2 you have 2 of her. When you bring the amulet and Merril do the rite Mythal tells you that shes just a fragment in case Morrigan try to kill her, so did this mean that if you dont kill her in Da 1,  at the end of Inquisition you have 2 Mythal walking around?

 

O_O Or maybe just 1 left because of the epilogue of the main game. But, wow, I forgot about that. And there was me thinking the whole Horcrux thing with Corypheus and his dragon was a bit of a cop out.

[Cee]

So, for those of you whose Lavellans still have clans and families:

 

post-Trespasser

 

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How much exactly is your Lavellan going to tell them?

 

The whole story - Fen'Harel is real, was with the Inquisition, (you love each other), he created the Veil, led to the fall of the elves and lots of other stuff, and now is up to some very likely dangerous thing that endangers everyone, but is also attracting elves from all over? etc

 

Part of the story?

 

Need to know basis?

 

I'm figuring this out for myself, since it will affect two things I plan to write, so I figured I'd also ask you all. I think mine leans more toward a high amount of truth and detail, because this is serious, but maybe to a select few, but then how do you protect the fringe, who might be the most susceptible/vulnerable? So there's probably a leaning toward more rather than less. But still determining it.

 

Some degree of this is out via the council and witnesses. How much left the palace, I wonder.

 

 

 

[Vorathrad]

Already clarified, but no, it's not the same. 

 

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It irks me that he keeps saying he will be the only one to pay the price. He... and the modern world who will suffer so he can atone for what he did (I'm not playing the Solas hater here, but sometimes it makes me mad how blind he is to what he's actually planning)

 

Also, I asked this in the Abelas thread but I wanted to hear your opinions too, sorry if it was discussed before: Solas talks a lot of trash about the Dalish, but the end slide about his agents shows what seems to be a Dalish elf (at least it's an elf with vallaslin) And if I recall correctly, it's a Mythal vallaslin. Coincidence?

 

And now we are talking about vallaslins... Felassan has a vallaslin and Solas does mind using him for getting the eluvian network?

[Eurowande]

I think her little horcrux just brought her back because she stored a piece of herself in it. I doubt it's an actual full-bodied person.

 

If you've read Harry Potter I'm sure it works like that. There were never multiple He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Nameds running around. It was just like an instant revive. Like an extra life in a video game

But she said that is a kind of insurance in case she die... she is still alive in the Fereldan ( in case you dont kill her) , so its basically like having 2 of her

[_Lucinia]

So, for those of you whose Lavellans still have clans and families:

 

post-Trespasser

 

Spoiler

 

How much exactly is your Lavellan going to tell them?

 

The whole story - Fen'Harel is real, was with the Inquisition, (you love each other), he create the Veil and now is up to some very likely dangerous thing that endangers everyone, but is also attracting elves from all over? etc

 

Part of the story?

 

Need to know basis?

 

I'm figuring this out for myself, since it will affect two things I plan to write, so I figured I'd also ask you all. I think mine leans more toward a high amount of truth and detail, because this is serious, but maybe to a select few, but then how do you protect the fringe, who might be the most susceptible/vulnerable? So there's probably a leaning toward more rather than less. But still determining it.

 

Some degree of this is out via the council and witnesses. How much left the palace, I wonder.

 

 

 

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I'm thinking my Lavellan would tell her clan pretty much everything.  There's always the chance that there are some that would join him because of knowing the truth.  But I think it's best they be equipped to not be swayed by Solas or his agents.  I don't know.  I hadn't thought on this much.  I might think differently later.  But right now I think people need to know.  People smarter and more insightful than me will probably come up with good reasons for either way. 

[Shari'El]

Spoiler

There's a video with a semi low approval elf who asks Solas that she wants to join him

it's a bit different.

 

That's the friend version as well, it seems to have only two versions(?)

 

Irrelevant:

I like how in The Silent Grove Isabela takes an arrow to the only part of her body that is protected, he left shoulder, quite a bad aim, or.. good one.. Depending on what you were trying to achieve.

[NeverlandHunter]

So, for those of you whose Lavellans still have clans and families:

 

post-Trespasser

 

Spoiler

 

How much exactly is your Lavellan going to tell them?

 

The whole story - Fen'Harel is real, was with the Inquisition, (you love each other), he create the Veil and now is up to some very likely dangerous thing that endangers everyone, but is also attracting elves from all over? etc

 

Part of the story?

 

Need to know basis?

 

I'm figuring this out for myself, since it will affect two things I plan to write, so I figured I'd also ask you all. I think mine leans more toward a high amount of truth and detail, because this is serious, but maybe to a select few, but then how do you protect the fringe, who might be the most susceptible/vulnerable? So there's probably a leaning toward more rather than less. But still determining it.

 

Some degree of this is out via the council and witnesses. How much left the palace, I wonder.

 

 

 

My Ithilia Lavellan will tell her clan everything. They are her family, her people, and they deserve to know. Some of them will be angry, because it's throwing everything they thought they knew to wind, but her aunt and Keeper will believe her, along with her closest lethallans, and the more open-minded (the Lavellan clan is pretty openminded as far as the Dalish go in the first place. One or two of the set-in-their-way elders may leave but for the most part they'll become better from this. The biiger question for my Lavellan and her clan is whether or not to call an Arlathven. The other Dalish deserve to know too, but they'd be less likely to believe and what if his agents showed up and tried to turn the gatherers towards his cause?

[NeverlandHunter]

<snip>

 

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It irks me that he keeps saying he will be the only one to pay the price. He... and the modern world who will suffer so he can atone for what he did (I'm not playing the Solas hater here, but sometimes it makes me mad how blind he is to what he's actually planning)

 

Also, I asked this in the Abelas thread but I wanted to hear your opinions too, sorry if it was discussed before: Solas talks a lot of trash about the Dalish, but the end slide about his agents shows what seems to be a Dalish elf (at least it's an elf with vallaslin) And if I recall correctly, it's a Mythal vallaslin. Coincidence?

 

And now we are talking about vallaslins... Felassan has a vallaslin and Solas does mind using him for getting the eluvian network?

Solas is a hypocrite. A huge frustrating hypocrite. 

[Solas]

So, for those of you whose Lavellans still have clans and families:

 

post-Trespasser

 

Spoiler

 

How much exactly is your Lavellan going to tell them?

 

The whole story - Fen'Harel is real, was with the Inquisition, (you love each other), he create the Veil and now is up to some very likely dangerous thing that endangers everyone, but is also attracting elves from all over? etc

 

Part of the story?

 

Need to know basis?

 

I'm figuring this out for myself, since it will affect two things I plan to write, so I figured I'd also ask you all. I think mine leans more toward a high amount of truth and detail, because this is serious, but maybe to a select few, but then how do you protect the fringe, who might be the most susceptible/vulnerable? So there's probably a leaning toward more rather than less. But still determining it.

 

Some degree of this is out via the council and witnesses. How much left the palace, I wonder.

 

 

 

Spoiler

Her family is her clan, and the clan is extremely tight-knit and close, as well as forward-thinking and open-minded (it's HER that was the most isolationist/stubborn of them, ironically). First of all, she'd do it ASAP, she'd do it herself (it has to come from her), and she'd do it in person (messages aren't secure anymore).

 

She'd make sure all of them knew the truths she's learned about the People's past for a start (the true nature of the false-gods, the true reason for the fall, the true meaning for the vallaslin, etc), and she'd recount the story of the Inquisition to all of them. She'd urge that they forget the past and work to build something for themselves in the present. 

 

And then she'd convene a council of the Keeper, First, Second, the clan's hahrens and elders and other leaders, and fighters. This group would be told of the Dread Wolf and how he's real and walking the earth, and of how he infiltrated the Inquisition and what he plans going forward, and how he must be found and stopped. She's the clan's war leader and they'd almost certainly be going to war in an effort to stop him, or at least they must be told in order that they can keep the clan safe from the looming threat. The children and similar members of the clan don't need to know these gory details yet because there's no reason to cause them needless fear.

 

Her personal relationship with Solas is irrelevant to these discussions, even if they had heard of it already from rumors or whatever. She's incredibly businesslike. She might share it with the Keeper and some of her closest friends in the clan (like her second-in-command) but that's it.

[midnight tea]

Solas is a hypocrite. A huge frustrating hypocrite. 

 

Or we yet don't know much what's going on... I don't want to excuse him, but I think that there's yet a lot of context and information we miss - be it in case of Solas, or Flemythal or else.

[Jayla]

So, for those of you whose Lavellans still have clans and families:

 

post-Trespasser

 

Spoiler

 

How much exactly is your Lavellan going to tell them?

 

The whole story - Fen'Harel is real, was with the Inquisition, (you love each other), he create the Veil and now is up to some very likely dangerous thing that endangers everyone, but is also attracting elves from all over? etc

 

Part of the story?

 

Need to know basis?

 

I'm figuring this out for myself, since it will affect two things I plan to write, so I figured I'd also ask you all. I think mine leans more toward a high amount of truth and detail, because this is serious, but maybe to a select few, but then how do you protect the fringe, who might be the most susceptible/vulnerable? So there's probably a leaning toward more rather than less. But still determining it.

 

Some degree of this is out via the council and witnesses. How much left the palace, I wonder.

 

 

 

 

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Well, given how the Council behave at the end of Trespasser, I find it difficult to imagine anything's going to be kept secret, and there's the nobles who comment on your relationship with Solas in the main room in Skyhold, so I think - one way or the other - everyone's going to find out that everything. Plus we don't know if Varric intends to write an Inquisition equivalent of the Champion of Kirkwall and how much he intends to spill.

 

I'm curious how the scandal that the main drive behind stopping Solas was also in love with him will play out (great, now I sound like the noble xD). I think, personally, my girl is going to be very vocal about stopping Solas -even with his death- but to a select few, her clan included, her true efforts is going to convince him out of his plans. I've headcanoned that my Ilaria's core group of hunters and her twin brother come to Skyhold quite late into the main game, and Mahanon reeaally isn't in the Solas fanclub. So I'm picturing a lot of friction there when he finds out, especially since Ilaria and Mahanon are effectively estranged anyway (but that's not down to Solas, that's down to past events when they were in their early twenties). Her core hunting group, however, are supportive, and mostly want to go out adventuring with her again.

[Sable Rhapsody]

So, for those of you whose Lavellans still have clans and families:
 
post-Trespasser
 

Spoiler

 
How much exactly is your Lavellan going to tell them?

 

Spoiler

I think my Lavellan knows she can never go home.  She's seen too much, done too much, to ever really belong with her clan again.  She no longer has a sense of what's best for the clan.  So she basically gives her Keeper and family the complete truth, then lets the Keeper decide how much to tell everyone else.

It's rather sad, actually, because while she still loves her family and cares about her clan, I think she feels the loneliest when she's with them. Like the burden of truth placed upon her, and her history with Solas, keep her apart from them.

 

BLASPHEMY IN THE HIGHEST FORM! 
I live for the little cameos and how are they doings! I wish we only had more and anything on characters we haven't heard from (Oghren, Sigrun, Velanna, even Shale only got a little remark in DA2).

I'd rather have them be fewer but more meaningful. If there's a reason for the character to get brought up and involved in the story, wonderful. 100% on board. But if it's a cameo for the sake of a cameo, I'm pretty meh.

[drosophila]

So, for those of you whose Lavellans still have clans and families:

 

post-Trespasser

 

Spoiler

 

How much exactly is your Lavellan going to tell them?

 

The whole story - Fen'Harel is real, was with the Inquisition, (you love each other), he create the Veil and now is up to some very likely dangerous thing that endangers everyone, but is also attracting elves from all over? etc

 

Part of the story?

 

Need to know basis?

 

I'm figuring this out for myself, since it will affect two things I plan to write, so I figured I'd also ask you all. I think mine leans more toward a high amount of truth and detail, because this is serious, but maybe to a select few, but then how do you protect the fringe, who might be the most susceptible/vulnerable? So there's probably a leaning toward more rather than less. But still determining it.

 

Some degree of this is out via the council and witnesses. How much left the palace, I wonder.

 

 

 

 

Spoiler

Yeah, I've been wondering that for writing purposes too. This is how I see it:

 

1. Some high-ups from the council and the witnesses would know, but I think everyone would try to keep things as hushed as possible. Imagine all of Thedas finding out that there's this Dread Wolf elven god (which to most people translates as Demon) who is plotting to destroy the world. The resulting chaos is not something you want if you're trying to remain in power, or if you're trying to hunt him down, for that matter. I think chaos would work in Solas' favor and they would try to avoid it.

 

2. My Lavellan wouldn't tell anything to her clan, just because I RP her as someone rather pragmatic and, again, the Dalish finding out right now would just create disruption. Maybe Keeper Deshanna would find out, because I headcanon Deshanna as super shrewd political advisor who through letters contributed to some of the Inquisition's decisions. But she wouldn't share the truth with anyone. This does mean some elves might join with Fen'Harel, but my Lavellan knows there will be less-than-ethical sacrifices if she's set out on this hunt. 

 

3. To counter his efforts, she would be secretly building her network, but as little as possible would be shared in the open. Good thing I have hardened Leliana, some leaks may need to eliminated.

 

That's just my opinion and headcanon, of course. (Why do I like to RP horrible people? I'm a good person IRL, I promise!)

 

[Jaderail]

I might have missed something, but I honestly don't know

 

Spoiler

what Solas is talking about when he says he awoke from his slumber. I know he's mentioned it a few times, first time was at the post-credits scene of the main game and then he says it again when you meet up with him in Trespasser.

 

Does anyone know *why* or how he slept for so long?

[Cee]

Spoiler

Her family is her clan, and the clan is extremely tight-knit and close, as well as forward-thinking and open-minded (it's HER that was the most isolationist/stubborn of them, ironically). First of all, she'd do it ASAP, she'd do it herself (it has to come from her), and she'd do it in person (messages aren't secure anymore).

 

She'd make sure all of them knew the truths she's learned about the People's past for a start (the true nature of the false-gods, the true reason for the fall, the true meaning for the vallaslin, etc), and she'd recount the story of the Inquisition to all of them. And then she'd convene a council of the Keeper, First, Second, the clan's hahrens and elders and other leaders, and fighters. This group would be told of the Dread Wolf and how he's real and walking the earth, and of how he infiltrated the Inquisition and what he plans going forward. She's the clan's war leader and they'd almost certainly be going to war in an effort to stop him, or at least they must be told in order that they can keep the clan safe. The children and similar members of the clan don't need to know these gory details yet because there's no reason to cause them fear.

 

Her personal relationship with Solas is irrelevant to these discussions. She's incredibly businesslike. She might share it with the Keeper and some of her closest friends in the clan (like her second-in-command) but that's it.

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To clarify, I meant immediate family and then rest of clan/extended. But yes, the clan is family.

 

As far as their relationship goes, I see mine telling her siblings, parents, Keeper, and two friends. But I want to also write a visit that happens between end of game and Trespasser, and she'll be going to see her family without vallaslin and already armed with some new knowledge, which I planned on having her share. So I'm navigating how much she'll share there post-Trespasser, since there will be more to tell. But I think my headcanons are leaning in a similar direction.

 

[NeverlandHunter]

 

But she said that is a kind of insurance in case she die... she is still alive in the Fereldan ( in case you dont kill her) , so its basically like having 2 of her

I don't think that's how it works *shrugs*, but I could be wrong.

[Solas]

Spoiler

 

To clarify, I meant immediate family and then rest of clan/extended. But yes, the clan is family.

 

As far as their relationship goes, I see mine telling her siblings, parents, Keeper, and two friends. But I want to also write a visit that happens between end of game and Trespasser, and she'll be going to see her family without vallaslin and already armed with some new knowledge, which I planned on having her share. So I'm navigating how much she'll share there post-Trespasser, since there will be more to tell. But I think my headcanons are leaning in a similar direction.

 

I know! Just discussing my Inquisitor specifically. She doesn't have immediate family.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I might have missed something, but I honestly don't know what Solas is talking about when he says he awoke from his slumber. I know he's mentioned it a few times, first time was at the post-credits scene of the main game and then he says it again when you meet up with him in Trespasser. 
 
Does anyone know *why* or how he slept for so long?

He doesn't specify.

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My current working theory is that something as dramatic as putting up the Veil drained him of his powers to a point where he was near death. He had to enter uthenera or die, basically. The magical equivalent of sleeping off the worst hangover ever