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[The Lone Shadow]

I think that if he sees something that he can do to ease their current situation he will do it. For example, if his agents witness some kind of bullshizzle like the DAO city elf origin, they'll step in and mess some stuff up to save the elves involved. His group might try to free some slaves or defend a Dalish or two from violent humans, but it'd just be another way to try and see that these people who are going to burn in the chaos do so in relative comfort.

Because he is not a monster.

Oh Solas. You stupid sexy monster.

 

Which seems pretty pointless to me. Its like giving a hungry guy a sandwich to eat a  few minutes before shooting him in the head. It means nothing. Its not like your killing them quickly  because a big bad guy is coming and he will kill them slowly. Why even try to hide it?

[Uirebhiril]

Which seems pretty pointless to me. Its like giving a hungry guy a sandwich to eat a  few minutes before shooting him in the head. It means nothing. Its not like your killing them quickly  because a big bad guy is coming and he will kill them slowly. Why even try to hide it?

 

If the last act given to someone before they die is one of mercy and compassion, that's far better than them dying alone, starving, or cold. Small things do make a difference, but then in this particular situation it's kind of waaay different. But... who knows? Maybe the small acts would equal up to a big "I can't bring myself to do it."

 

Recognizing that we are speaking in hypotheticals, of course.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I wouldn't even know how to go about researching smut, lol. I mean you can watch it, but that would not translate to truthful writing. And trying something just for the sake of writing is beyond me. 

 

If I ever had to research, I don't think I'd start with visual porn.  Honestly, I'd probably just start going through other fanfiction to get an idea of how it's written.  

 

Here's the thing, though.  Some of the best smut I've ever read wasn't particularly kinky or exotic in terms of what the characters were doing.  The sex itself was pretty vanilla.  The descriptions, dialogue, and atmosphere were well done, and that's what made it work.  So you don't need wacky stuff for smut to be good.

[Cee]

I've been shamelessly dancing in the smutty fanfiction dumpster since I was fourteen and neck-deep in the Harry Potter fandom.  That's how I learned what NSFW meant, though I think we called explicit fanfiction lemons back in those days?  Can't remember why.

 

Writing smut is fun and challenging, but kind of weird still.  It's like...how many ways can you possibly describe f***ing before it starts to sound really weird? 

 

I don't really write smut but I also don't really like reading smut either. But touching, lots of emotion, kissing, those are the things I find are on my side of the line. Even the two times I wrote anything that even grazed a slightly smutty line it was like....kissing and licking skin.

 

Sometimes the hottest thing can be the before, the anticipation, the tension, the sensory intake, especially with heavy feelings and a growing relationship.
 

[Cee]

 

I wouldn't even know how to go about researching smut, lol. I mean you can watch it, but that would not translate to truthful writing. And trying something just for the sake of writing is beyond me. 

What Sable said, though I know for me, I sometimes looked up reference images of people touching and being affectionate. Not porn images, but just pictures of affectionate people and their faces, where their hands are, how people of, say, different heights touch, what does F/F affection and touching look like versus M/F, etc? It can spin imagination a bit. At least it worked for me. Writing affectionate scenes between Nirwen and Solas was quite different than writing them between teenage Nirwen and discovering love for the first time with Nehnariel.

[drosophila]

If I ever had to research, I don't think I'd start with visual porn.  Honestly, I'd probably just start going through other fanfiction to get an idea of how it's written.  

 

Here's the thing, though.  Some of the best smut I've ever read wasn't particularly kinky or exotic in terms of what the characters were doing.  The sex itself was pretty vanilla.  The descriptions, dialogue, and atmosphere were well done, and that's what made it work.  So you don't need wacky stuff for smut to be good.

 

Those are great points! Hmm, maybe I'll try. Maybe on Cole's bachelor party. 

[TheEggCrusher]

I don't really write smut but I also don't really like reading smut either. But touching, lots of emotion, kissing, those are the things I find are on my side of the line. Even the two times I wrote anything that even grazed a slightly smutty line it was like....kissing and licking skin.

 

Sometimes the hottest thing can be the before, the anticipation, the tension, the sensory intake, especially with heavy feelings and a growing relationship.
 

yeah same. smut kinda creeps me out. it's the intimate stuff that's nice, imo. where you can tell there is real love in the relationship. 

 

no crazy detailed banging required

[NeverlandHunter]

I've had thoughts about this. Why wouldn't Solas be bi, other than because of resources? I think it's a shame he isn't. Maybe it's my own sexuality that's biasing me, but isn't he all about the spiritual (and spirits are genderless) and freedom and such?

Yeah, but everyone has their own preferences. 

 

Creation wise I wonder why not, it would of given all those idiots going "But du girlz get more loverz than we dooo" something to shut up about... of course those idiots were usually of the straight male sort, but I digress.

 

Personality wise I don't think Solas's views on spirits and spiritual freedom and such should effect his sexuality much. But honestly I don't know. Are people who are born into cultures that are very sexually open more likely to be bisexual? Maybe just more bicurious?

[drosophila]

What Sable said, though I know for me, I sometimes looked up reference images of people touching and being affectionate. Not porn images, but just pictures of affectionate people and their faces, where their hands are, how people of, say, different heights touch, what does F/F affection and touching look like versus M/F, etc? It can spin imagination a bit. At least it worked for me.

 

Thanks! I actually have no problem headcanoning touching, etc. I just always thought no one would read it, since it's mostly, well, just lovemaking. Maybe I'm being too picky. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

Thanks! I actually have no problem headcanoning touching, etc. I just always thought no one would read it, since it's mostly, well, just lovemaking. Maybe I'm being too picky. 

 

The fandom is always thirsty for more sexytimes.

 

In my own (worst) opinion, the best stuff I've ever written is never the smut.  And yet you wouldn't know it by the comments

[TheEggCrusher]

Yeah, but everyone has their own preferences. 

 

Creation wise I wonder why not, it would of given all those idiots going "But du girlz get more loverz than we dooo" something to shut up about... of course those idiots were usually of the straight male sort, but I digress.

 

Personality wise I don't think Solas's views on spirits and spiritual freedom and such should effect his sexuality much. But honestly I don't know. Are people who are born into cultures that are very sexually open more likely to be bisexual? Maybe just more bicurious?

bicurious probably, if elvhenan was open with sexuality. 

 

bisexual though ... that's a whole other thing. has to do with how you're biologically built. but because it would make sense with his personality in a poetic sense, i was mainly wondering if the writers canonically pictured him as bi 

[SamanthaJ]

I don't really write smut but I also don't really like reading smut either. But touching, lots of emotion, kissing, those are the things I find are on my side of the line. Even the two times I wrote anything that even grazed a slightly smutty line it was like....kissing and licking skin.

 

Sometimes the hottest thing can be the before, the anticipation, the tension, the sensory intake, especially with heavy feelings and a growing relationship.
 

 

I agree. I like smut as a way of portraying intimacy, but only vanilla smut between two fully consenting people. For a while I went far away from the fandom because a few of the fics I stumbled upon were so traumatizing that they made me physically ill and made it difficult for me to sleep. I was pretty cranky about the whole situation too. I've learned to be very careful where I tread.

[NeverlandHunter]

Which seems pretty pointless to me. Its like giving a hungry guy a sandwich to eat a  few minutes before shooting him in the head. It means nothing. Its not like your killing them quickly  because a big bad guy is coming and he will kill them slowly. Why even try to hide it?

*giggles* and also that reminded me of the scene in A Storm of Swords (I think one of the ASOIAF books)

Spoiler

where Arya gives this guy a drink of water before he's killed.

I think there is a point, but I did get a laugh out of your comment!

[midnight tea]

It might be more about familiarity than supremacy, at least if you bother to befriend/romance him.

 

Think about it in a RL sense that's much less extreme.  If you were in a foreign country where the language, culture, and people were very different from you, and came across a bar full of people from your home country, you'd probably gravitate toward them.  It's not that you think your people are inherently superior; you just prefer what's familiar.

 

Though to bring it back to Solas, he definitely is racist against humans and qunari, dismissive of the modern dwarves, and varies between pitying the modern elves and despairing that they aren't his people.  So...class act in that department 

 

To be honest, I think it's a bit more complicated than that. He said it verbatim to Quizzy - that he woke up in a world that blocked most people's conscious connection to the Fade. He's like a tetrachromat in the world of colourblind: he sees colors and wonders people have have no awareness or even capacity to understand. I'm not surprised that they're "like Tranquil" to him and why he feels the world is so alien.

 

Kinda makes me think "his people" may not exactly mean what we think he may mean. Let's not forget his slip-up right after Halamshiral, when he tells non-elf Quizzy who says that they're glad that "his people" should be better now on with "How are mages going to be treated better?"

 

Then there's the fact that, aside from Abelas (who's a mentor to young Sentinels), he calls both approved elf Quizzy AND spirit of wisdom 'lethallan'- neither are ancient elves, yet he recognizes them as kin.

 

Therefore I don't think Solas is straightforwardly racist, or confused about what elves are 'his people': the difference between "his people" may lie mostly in the mindset, rather than specific bloodline or provenience.

 

And considering that the Veil has been alluded to actually NOT be a physical barrier, but sort of a collective illusion that touches more the mind of the living I'd say that "his people"... may be pretty much everyone.

 

Thing is, when the Veil itself would lift, they'd all likely experience a 'hard reset' - it likely will lead to shedding of all their previous identity or they'd be made forget about them (no time travel would be necessary, if Solas will just make the world forget about things. We know Evanuris were capable of making powerful entities forget how to wake up and I'm pretty sure that Solas himself knows that trick as well, even if he needs some sort of elaborate ritual and accumulated power to amplify it). Such scenario effectively means "death" to their old selves and all races that 'evolved' or appeared after the Veil was created*, or perhaps even earlier than that, prior to Evanuris getting the bright idea to mess things up.

 

*(... because yeah, I'm still waiting for a bombshell when it's going to be revealed that EVERYONE descended from the elves, but they've had to "evolve" in some way to survive in new reality).

 

edit: modern elves are likely the group that either consciously or unconsciously remembers being what they were before the Veil the most of all people, even if it's not enough of a memory to guarantee the survival of identity in the 'new' world.

[drosophila]

Yeah, but everyone has their own preferences. 

 

Creation wise I wonder why not, it would of given all those idiots going "But du girlz get more loverz than we dooo" something to shut up about... of course those idiots were usually of the straight male sort, but I digress.

 

Personality wise I don't think Solas's views on spirits and spiritual freedom and such should effect his sexuality much. But honestly I don't know. Are people who are born into cultures that are very sexually open more likely to be bisexual? Maybe just more bicurious?

 

I guess, the way I looked at it, Solas always seems to be attracted to Lavellan's spiritual side. It seemed to me that what he's looking for is not exactly physical, although, of course, there's a physical component to it. So it follows he'd be equally likely to see that thing in male as well as female elves. But I'm well aware it might just be me projecting, I'd be super attracted to somebody smart, creative, kind, all those spiritual qualities, regardless of their gender. 

[MayriyaNoori]

We did! And less smutty fics were limes, I think. I remember my first "lemon" when I didn't know what a lemon was. I was in elementary school. It was a Vageta and Bulma from DBZ. There was a shower. I was so shocked such a thing existed...but I've never quite been the same. Then Harry Potter came alone, and then Naruto introduced me to other things...

 For some reason I find comfort knowing that DBZ was the first for someone else in that regards.....

 

.......though I don't think it was Vageta and Bulma...I want to say Trunks and Pan......or Pan's parents....I can't remember, long time ago.

 

Solas......

[Cee]

Thanks! I actually have no problem headcanoning touching, etc. I just always thought no one would read it, since it's mostly, well, just lovemaking. Maybe I'm being too picky. 

 

I think for me it's just a grounding technique for writing. I look through images to see if I see something I might not have imagined or experienced.

 

 

I've had thoughts about this. Why wouldn't Solas be bi, other than because of resources? I think it's a shame he isn't. Maybe it's my own sexuality that's biasing me, but isn't he all about the spiritual (and spirits are genderless) and freedom and such?

 

Yeah, Weekes said it was written for female elves but it was also largely gated due to resources. We've seen the Adaar/Solas videos.   The Cullen one was then gated to just humans and elves for budget. He kind of got the Kaidan ME1 treatment. I don't think it's so bad to have some characters just be monosexual. People just have preferences and various orientations. Solas, however, I don't think it would've ultimately changed his character, which is why the mod doesn't bother me.

[NeverlandHunter]

bicurious probably, if elvhenan was open with sexuality. 

 

bisexual though ... that's a whole other thing. has to do with how you're biologically built. but because it would make sense with his personality in a poetic sense, i was mainly wondering if the writers canonically pictured him as bi 

Yeah, well it seems he was always intended to be straight, perhaps he's bicurious though!

[RedMagister]

bicurious probably, if elvhenan was open with sexuality. 

 

bisexual though ... that's a whole other thing. has to do with how you're biologically built. but because it would make sense with his personality in a poetic sense, i was mainly wondering if the writers canonically pictured him as bi 

I don't think they intended to make him bi before. then again, why consider it?

[TheEggCrusher]

someone should seriously ask Weekes if he's bi. 

 

i demand answers o-o 

 

(pretty please?) 

[Sable Rhapsody]

Thing is, when the Veil itself would lift, they'd all likely experience a 'hard reset' - it's likely will lead to shedding of all their previous identity or they'd be made forget about them (no time travel would be necessary, if Solas will just make the world forget about things. We know Evanuris were capable of making powerful entities forget how to wake up and I'm pretty sure that Solas himself knows that trick as well, even if he needs some sort of elaborate ritual and accumulated power to amplify it). Such scenario effectively means "death" to their old selves and all races that 'evolved' or appeared after the Veil was created*, or perhaps even earlier than that, prior to Evanuris getting the bright idea to mess things up.

 

I'm personally inclined to take the "death" of modern Thedas a bit more literally.  He can say to quizzy, "Live well, while time remains."  That sounds more like permanent death and less like an evolution or transformation a la Synthesis.

 

And I'm totally willing to admit that my impression of Solas's prejudices is biased from playing Adaar.  Solas has some spectacularly nasty things to say about the qunari, and while my Adaar is no fan of the Qun, it is really jarring having Solas compliment you with one breath and call everyone else who looks like you a savage in the next.  It's a bit like the whole Felassan thing: a very uncomfortable reminder of Solas's flaws.

[TheEggCrusher]

I don't think they intended to make him bi before. then again, why consider it?

cause i'm bi and it would be something i could feel connected to. like when you find out a stranger likes DA and you're just like YAAASS ME TOO

 

just something nice that would me really happy if it was true

[Cee]

I guess, the way I looked at it, Solas always seems to be attracted to Lavellan's spiritual side. It seemed to me that what he's looking for is not exactly physical, although, of course, there's a physical component to it. So it follows he'd be equally likely to see that thing in male as well as female elves. But I'm well aware it might just be me projecting, I'd be super attracted to somebody smart, creative, kind, all those spiritual qualities, regardless of their gender. 

 

No, that's how I am too (I usually use pan over bi when people will understand it) and I completely get this. But I guess I also understand the gating because this sort of thing happens in real life. You can be attracted to someone but they're just not able to return it.

 

Semi-related, I read this earlier: http://femhype.com/2...exist-in-games/I admit, Cassandra pulled me in.
 

[drosophila]

Yeah, Weekes said it was written for female elves but it was also largely gated due to resources. We've seen the Adaar/Solas videos.   The Cullen one was then gated to just humans and elves for budget. He kind of got the Kaidan ME1 treatment. I don't think it's so bad to have some characters just be monosexual. People just have preferences and various orientations. Solas, however, I don't think it would've ultimately changed his character, which is why the mod doesn't bother me.

 

Cullen is Golden Boy, the perfect man you bring home to your parents. I can see how he'd be straight, since his romance was basically designed to cater to stereotypical F/M romantic fantasies. 

 

Solas is Dread, Despair, falling in love with the bad boy, shouldering the burden, and paying the price. Why not have more male fans share in the misery?

 

(I'm well aware there's mods, of course. And that the real answer is resources.)

[Cee]

I'm totally open to everyone sharing in the beautiful pain that is Solas.