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Hey anybody up for a bit of theory crafting?

 

I have this crazy idea that "the Void" (where Blight comes from) is the space left behind in the bedrock of Thedas after the corpse of a dead Titan rots away.

 

Blight would be caused by interacting with the putrid, decomposing remains of a Titan - presumably slain by the Evanuris (or maybe by the Forgotten Ones).

 

Or maybe they realized that they couldn't keep extracting lyrium from the Titan once it was dead, so they used powerful blood magic to try to resurrect it to get the lyrium flowing again, and they instead created a monstrous false form of life.

 

Thoughts?


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I have it stuck in my head when it's not playing but then I play it anyway. It's layered, ominous, sweet, and sad. Reminds me of someone.



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I'm reading everyone's reply to mine and I just want to say I'm not at all saying I like these mods myself. I prefer to stick to canon as much as possible and anything that goes against it I generally avoid it (even in regards to aesthetics, like the mods that changes vallaslins, I can't do it!), and Dorian's sexuality is tied intrinsically to his personality, story, and history so I couldn't possibly go with it myself. Like many others, I'd sooner create a male Inquisitor and romance him as intended (even if I don't like the male VAs) than mod my way around it.

 

It was the open hostility against them when the important part (to me anyway) is that canonically he is gay that I couldn't really understand. I do now though, so thank you all for your responses. C: I wish I had enough likes to give around, so please take some hearts instead <3 <3 <3 <3.


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There's been plenty of times I wish I could have sexed up some of my gay male friends. The struggle is real.


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I don't think people are trying to prove their headcanons are right. The whole point of headcanon is that it's personal.

 

I keep listening to this. And got three whole lines written last night. B)

 

 

 

I am pissed that EA and Bioware haven't included the dlc soundtracks for all of their respective dlc's, which we paid for. They are all pretty amazing. The same way I find it cheap that all of the Tavern Songs aren't included in the deluxe version of Dragon Age: Inquisition but rather sold as a separate album rather than included with the Dragon Age: Inquisition soundtrack.

 

We pay 15 dollars a piece for the content as well as a pretty strong price for the base game (I waited for it to go on sale, but still)

 

that's 45$ more to have a "completed" game. If you paid for inquistion full price than that could be as high as 115$ for the game.

 

I'm a music junky and soundtrack enthusiast, it would have been nice to see some love for the fans, I mean, they don't even bundle games with ultimate cuts once they've been out for a while in order to make us pay more.

 

Dragon Age: Origins still doesn't have an Ultimate cut on the Origin platform (which is why I bought it on steam). Anyways those are my personal feelings on the subject.

 

I just wanted to say, thanks for posting the youtube link. I also love that track!


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Who said anything about going after modders? It's more like a negative opinion of those particular creations, which is not about their creators. Like a negative review of sorts, but people will do what they will do. Saying something negative about the actual mod isn't harassing anyone. Proper tagging helps a lot to avoid non-canon stuff and things like this though. :P But no one should be harassed in general.


That wasn't directed at you, or anyone else here.  Sorry for being unclear.  It's just that the modders and mod tool makers over on tumblr have been getting some really nasty comments fired their way, and it makes me sad.  


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In regards to Solas/Mythal, I am heavily leaning towards the whole guardian relationship more than a romantic one, although I really wouldn't be surprised if it was. And I don't think I'd be too bothered about it either. If Solas was finally spurred into action against the Evanuris with Mythal's death, then he was acting with his heart. But his desire to bring down the Veil in Trespasser seems to be him thinking with his head, to fix a perceived mistake he made in the past, and even though we know he loves Lavellan deeply, he broke up with her specifically so he could carry on thinking with his head, and not with his heart.

 

I've been thinking more recently about how Solas reacts to drinking an Inquisitor drinking from the Well*. He knows it would bind the Inquisitor to Mythal's will, and he knows this not because Abelas told us, but because he knows what it's like being bound to her, and this is leading me to think of a whole bunch of sad thoughts. Solas clearly held Mythal to high regard despite the fact she kept slaves too, Abelas and his sentinels were incredibly dedicated...

 

What if the relationship, and the whole binding-business, extends to more... brainwashyness? Like the slaves of the Evanuris were brainwashed into wanting to serve these people as gods over a time when the Evanuris collectively went insane with power and had to find some means of keeping their people in check?

 

Any thoughts?

 

*Or was supposed to react, the whole "begged you not to do it" dialogue is a bug, but it shows he was supposed to be a lot more dramatic about it, but for whatever reason they left it out. Probably because it'd make him too obvious.

 

This exactly. 

 

Solas = Heart

Dread Wolf = Brain

 

Heart = Smart

Brain = Stupid


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I am pissed that EA and Bioware haven't included the dlc soundtracks for all of their respective dlc's, which we paid for. They are all pretty amazing. The same way I find it cheap that all of the Tavern Songs aren't included in the deluxe version of Dragon Age: Inquisition but rather sold as a separate album rather than included with the Dragon Age: Inquisition soundtrack.

 

We pay 15 dollars a piece for the content as well as as a pretty strong price for the base game (I waited for it to go on sale but still)

 

that's 45$ more to have a "completed" game. If you paid for inquistion full price than that could be as high as 115$ for the game.

 

I'm a music junky and soundtrack enthusiast, it would have been nice to see some love for the fans, I mean, they don't even bundle games with ultimate cuts once they've been out for a while in order to make us pay more.

 

Dragon Age: Origins still doesn't have an Ultimate cut on the Origin platform (which is why I bought it on steam). Anyways those are my personal feelings on the subject.

 

I just wanted to say, thanks for posting the youtube link. I also love that track!

 

They gave us the soundtrack and tavern songs for free a long time ago. So I don't see what your problem is? I imagine they'll do the same for awhile when the DLC soundtracks come out.



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Hey anybody up for a bit of theory crafting?

 

I have this crazy idea that "the Void" (where Blight comes from) is the space left behind in the bedrock of Thedas after the corpse of a dead Titan rots away.

 

Blight would be caused by interacting with the putrid, decomposing remains of a Titan - presumably slain by the Evanuris (or maybe by the Forgotten Ones).

 

Or maybe they realized that they couldn't keep extracting lyrium from the Titan once it was dead, so they used powerful blood magic to try to resurrect it to get the lyrium flowing again, and they instead created a monstrous false form of life.

 

Thoughts?

 

That's,,, interesting. The idea that the dead Titan is tied to the Blight makes me wonder again about the primeval thaig in DA2. Or what was awoken and then sealed by ancient elves as pointed out in the one codex. I only wish I were awake enough to think harder on it at the moment. :P


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Mods will always dip a bit into the surreal and often disturbing (look at some of the Skyrim ones) but it really boggled my mind at the abuse some modders get. Not even for the more controversial mods either, tons of hair and clothing modders have just thrown their hands up in exasperation and quit due to the horrible reactions of some people to the content they made. For free. On their own time. For the benefit of others.

 

It makes me wish that I could reach through my monitor screen and distribute a healthy dose of some b*tchslap to those particular individuals (not the modders, to clarify, but the complainers).


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That wasn't directed at you, or anyone else here.  Sorry for being unclear.  It's just that the modders and mod tool makers over on tumblr have been getting some really nasty comments fired their way, and it makes me sad.  

 

^ That's what I was referring to as well with the open hostility. :)


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I don't think people are trying to prove their headcanons are right. The whole point of headcanon is that it's personal.

 

I keep listening to this. And got three whole lines written last night. B)

 

 

Why'd you have to do this Cee?! No wait, it's fine I know why...;)

 

I swear, every time I hear this tune all I can do is sit and sigh heavily while saying "Oh Solas..." sadly for it's duration... I can do NOTHING else!

 

Explains your three lines right?


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Hey anybody up for a bit of theory crafting?

 

I have this crazy idea that "the Void" (where Blight comes from) is the space left behind in the bedrock of Thedas after the corpse of a dead Titan rots away.

 

Blight would be caused by interacting with the putrid, decomposing remains of a Titan - presumably slain by the Evanuris (or maybe by the Forgotten Ones).

 

Or maybe they realized that they couldn't keep extracting lyrium from the Titan once it was dead, so they used powerful blood magic to try to resurrect it to get the lyrium flowing again, and they instead created a monstrous false form of life.

 

Thoughts?

 

Here, I'm sure you'd be comfortable posting on my thread, I made it specifically for people who love theory crafting, the invitation stands for anyone interested on this thread, which is filled with cool people in my opinion.

 

http://forum.bioware...discussions-20/



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That's,,, interesting. The idea that the dead Titan is tied to the Blight makes me wonder again about the primeval thaig in DA2. Or what was awoken and then sealed by ancient elves as pointed out in the one codex. I only wish I were awake enough to think harder on it at the moment. :P

 

It will wait!  Let your unconscious work on in the Fade while you sleep.  :-)



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Here, I'm sure you'd be comfortable posting on my thread, I made it specifically for people who love theory crafting, the invitation stands for anyone interested on this thread, which is filled with cool people in my opinion.

 

http://forum.bioware...discussions-20/

 

Thanks, yeah.  I like to lurk in this thread and the people here are cool.  It used to be a hotbed of awesome theory crafting, too.  But I'm not opposed to taking it elsewhere if it's not what the community is in the mood to talk about.



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That wasn't directed at you, or anyone else here.  Sorry for being unclear.  It's just that the modders and mod tool makers over on tumblr have been getting some really nasty comments fired their way, and it makes me sad.  

 

People lack common decency, courtesy and respect. Especially on Tumblr.


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They gave us the soundtrack and tavern songs for free a long time ago. So I don't see what your problem is? I imagine they'll do the same for awhile when the DLC soundtracks come out.

 

The soundtrack is included in the deluxe download of Inquisition, not the tavern songs. if you got the tavern songs for free (which are not included in the inquisition soundtrack) then by all means, send me a link or direct me to where that can be found. As for the DLC soundtracks, in my opinion they should have been included with the product.

 

And as specified above I don't have a problem, I have an opinion. You don't need to share it, I'm just expressing how I feel about the Origin (EA) business practices compared to other distribution companies and developers.



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I don't think people are trying to prove their headcanons are right. The whole point of headcanon is that it's personal.

 

I keep listening to this. And got three whole lines written last night. B)

 

I am also so inspired.. I already did a small tribute but I am trying to decide whether to make a new one with this in the backround *_* But omg if you write something... please share <3



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People lack common decency, courtesy and respect. Especially on Tumblr.

 

For the few months that I was actively using Tumblr, people were perfectly kind.  But I also never left the safety of the vhenantrash dumpster :P  And now that I'm slowly poking my head back into the DA fandom, I can't say I really plan on venturing into deep space tumblr.  -1d100 SANITY does not sound like a good use of my time.


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I thought Asaris are like that. They look female but they do not have a gender actually. They are both male and female and can have babies with any gender any race. Does that not count? 

Edit: Oh wait I think I read your comment wrong lol XD sorry 

That's okay!

The Asaris confuse me, but maybe I need to play the games to understand.

 

I quite like the premise of this, but asexuals don't really define themselves by having sex 'for reproduction' or anything -though those do exists. There are those that like sex, those that would never go near another person's genitals. Then there are those that are grey-asexual and just feel asexual partly, those that are demi and thus need a strong bond towards another person before they can feel sexual about them and so on. And THEN there are the aromantic people, who cannot feel romantic stuff. They can still like it or they don't, but, well, they just don't fall into the cuddle wuddle trope. Also, another layer of complexity is added because asexual does not mean you are panromantic and vice versa. Oh help, humans are complex! :)

Oh I know! But obviously a species that doesn't have sex at all will die out... unless they're scientifically asexual as in they can reproduce with themselves...

0.0 Kind of weird to think about, but I consider myself pretty open-minded

 

I'm genuinely confused about the whole hostility towards modders who create the "equal opportunity" mods for characters, and I'm noticing it especially towards gay characters. As far as I'm aware, no one loses their **** over a mod that lets Solas be romancable by men or other races, but people seem to freak out if Dorian or Sera are made bi through these mods.

 

I just don't get it; it's a mod, not canon. Your representation isn't made null with the existence of these mods. They're for fun, for people who want them, just like every other damn mod that changes something with a character. Now if an official update released by BioWare did something like this, then I'd understand.

 

It just seems hypocritical. "Ah, yes, a mod that makes Solas bi, yes, wonderful. WHAT! A mod that makes Dorian bi?! RRAAAAGGGEEEE!"

 

Disclaimer: I'm not saying anyone here holds these particular views, but if you do I'd love to hear why. I'm all up for broadening my horizon and I'm sure I'm probably missing something.

Well they can express some very harmful ways of thinking.There is something very demeaning about mods that make people of color white. Like there is something that needs to be changed about them to make them better. But, since people don't make "I'll make Solas black mods" (as far as I'm aware) then it doesn't completely translate to your point.

 

Now this stuff gets extremely iffy. You can say "but it's equality to treat everyone the same. You should be able to make gay Cullen fanfiction and straight Dorian fanfiction without any backlash! Just because someone's in the majority doesn't mean they should be singled out!"

But there are reasons we (Americans I don't know about other countries) have things like black history month and gay pride week. Eventually in beautiful fantasy future we shouldn't need things like affirmative action or have people get upset about straight Dorian and not gay Cullen, but for now minority people should have places and times and things that make them feel safe and special, since most of the world is still against them.

Spoiler

 

Wow, heavy topic XD

Back to Solas


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The soundtrack is included in the deluxe download of Inquisition, not the tavern songs. if you got the tavern songs for free (which are not included in the inquisition soundtrack) then by all means, send me a link or direct me to where that can be found. As for the DLC soundtracks, in my opinion they should have been included with the product.

 

And I don't have a problem, I have an opinion. You don't need to share it, I'm just expressing how I feel about the Origin (EA) business practices compared to other distribution companies and developers.

OMG then I should have it!? omg 

*Edit: I cannot find it on my soundtracks.. hmm let me see if I am in correct folder..


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As a side note, given the whole Solas and Mythal might have been an item thing maybe the fem elf only romance could have other plot tie ins. Perhaps Lavellan could become a vessel for Mythal instead of Morrigan. The whole "you two'd make a cute couple" line you could interrupt with while Morrigan and Solas were arguing at the Temple of Mythal originally made me wonder if something weird was being foreshadowed. It gave me a bad feeling even though I was completely unspoiled at the time. :alien:

 

My Lavellan: F***************** NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


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The soundtrack is included in the deluxe download of Inquisition, not the tavern songs. if you got the tavern songs for free (which are not included in the inquisition soundtrack) then by all means, send me a link or direct me to where that can be found. As for the DLC soundtracks, in my opinion they should have been included with the product.

 

And I don't have a problem, I have an opinion. You don't need to share it, I'm just expressing how I feel about the Origin (EA) business practices compared to other distribution companies and developers.

 

The tavern songs were given away for free in a limited-time promotion on the site and promoted on all the DA social media accounts.



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My Lavellan: F***************** NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

LOL.  Same for mine.

 

While she's not thrilled by any means over losing her left hand and the Anchor, I think secretly, my Lavellan is a little relieved.  The thing that marked her as the "Herald" is gone.  She handled being Herald so poorly that I think she would throw an actual screaming temper tantrum if she became a vessel for Mythal.


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For the few months that I was actively using Tumblr, people were perfectly kind.  But I also never left the safety of the vhenantrash dumpster :P  And now that I'm slowly poking my head back into the DA fandom, I can't say I really plan on venturing into deep space tumblr.  -1d100 SANITY does not sound like a good use of my time.

 

I got rid of my Tumblr because people got way too preachy about all kinds of things that didn't interest me. Too many requests for money, sob stories, political agenda rants, stories about cats, etc. I'm like, nope! Plus, we see all the good art here anyway.


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