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[Avejajed]

I'm with Jess, I want it all in one game!  Bouncing from one world ending crisis to the next.  Who wouldn't love that?!  No one could complain it was boring, or had pacing issues.  You'd be too busy for there to ever be lulls.

 

That would be an insane game.  It would probably be the shortest Bioware game in existence though, because cripes that is a lot of **** in one game.  lol

 

This is the BSN. People would totally complain. "These fetch quests are all intrinsically tied to the plot and give me no time just to relax! How dare you Bioware!!!"

[Sable Rhapsody]

I'm with Jess, I want it all in one game!  Bouncing from one world ending crisis to the next.  Who wouldn't love that?!  No one could complain it was boring, or had pacing issues.  You'd be too busy for there to ever be lulls.

 

That would be an insane game.  It would probably be the shortest Bioware game in existence though, because cripes that is a lot of **** in one game.  lol

 

The more the game tells me I'm doomed, the less doomed I actually feel.  It gets like Whack-a-Mole.

 

DA:O had both the Blight and Loghain breathing down my neck, but I never felt all that frightened.  Same with DA:I, Cory, and Solas.  But DA2, which had the least epic scope, was the one where I really felt the impact of all the bad stuff.  I felt the mage/templar tensions as they tore my party apart.  I felt actual rage against the Arishok when Lowtown burned.

 

Don't get me wrong.  I'm perfectly happy to play Whack-a-Mole.  Or Whack-a-Titan, or Whack-a-God.  But I can do that in almost any video game.  Saving the world is nice, but saving my nutty apocalypse boyfriend from himself?  Or dealing my possessed healer a mercy kill?  Or realizing my robot buddy has a soul--and a future?  That'll stay with me.

[Illyria]

The more the game tells me I'm doomed, the less doomed I actually feel.  It gets like Whack-a-Mole.

 

DA:O had both the Blight and Loghain breathing down my neck, but I never felt all that frightened.  Same with DA:I, Cory, and Solas.  But DA2, which had the least epic scope, was the one where I really felt the impact of all the bad stuff.  I felt the mage/templar tensions as they tore my party apart.  I felt actual rage against the Arishok when Lowtown burned.

 

Don't get me wrong.  I'm perfectly happy to play Whack-a-Mole.  Or Whack-a-Titan, or Whack-a-God.  But I can do that in almost any video game.  Saving the world is nice, but saving my nutty apocalypse boyfriend from himself?  Or dealing my possessed healer a mercy kill?  Or realizing my robot buddy has a soul--and a future?  That'll stay with me.

 

I'd like a better implimented version of Mass Effect 3's thing.  Take too much time before doing an urgent sidequest and it's gone for good.  Or maybe you get a choice of doing sidequest A or B and you can only do one (the war table did this to an extent, as did the original alpha footage of Crestwood).

[Sable Rhapsody]

I'd like a better implimented version of Mass Effect 3's thing.  Take too much time before doing an urgent sidequest and it's gone for good.  Or maybe you get a choice of doing sidequest A or B and you can only do one (the war table did this to an extent, as did the original alpha footage of Crestwood).

 

So would I.  The only time it really got implemented in DAI was with Redcliffe and Therinfall.  And I think the impact would have been much greater if you saw the aftermath of whichever side you didn't help.

 

Because I gotta admit--when I went back to Redcliffe with my Lavellan and it was pretty much peachy (except the absence of Connor), I was distinctly unimpressed.  Though I 100% understand that they already bit off more than they could chew with DA:I, and some things just couldn't be done in time or at all.

[AutumnOracle]

And here I am wondering how the heck they fit all that into just two games.  It feels like with the build up so far and what we don't have answered that it has to be more than five games.  I could live in this world forever.

[ChuChu]

I think it IS all elves but.... Not. It might indeed be like the legends of Roman/Greek mythology where there was a ruling order of deities (mages)... But before them were the more primordial forces. And I think that's what we are building to.

The codex found in the Deep Roads (trespasser) discussing the battle with the pillars of the earth...Titans, the Evanuris.... The things that must be covered up and the urges for the people to rise.....

And then the other one discussing the little children (dwarves) being a mistranslation.

Oh so many awesome lore bombs.

[_Lucinia]

The more the game tells me I'm doomed, the less doomed I actually feel.  It gets like Whack-a-Mole.

 

DA:O had both the Blight and Loghain breathing down my neck, but I never felt all that frightened.  Same with DA:I, Cory, and Solas.  But DA2, which had the least epic scope, was the one where I really felt the impact of all the bad stuff.  I felt the mage/templar tensions as they tore my party apart.  I felt actual rage against the Arishok when Lowtown burned.

 

Don't get me wrong.  I'm perfectly happy to play Whack-a-Mole.  Or Whack-a-Titan, or Whack-a-God.  But I can do that in almost any video game.  Saving the world is nice, but saving my nutty apocalypse boyfriend from himself?  Or dealing my possessed healer a mercy kill?  Or realizing my robot buddy has a soul--and a future?  That'll stay with me.

I actually wouldn't mind if the next game would be more intimate like DA2 was.  Before all the DA2 haters tar, feather me, and string me up; I don't mean copy pasted caves and the same maps for 30+ hours!  Origins and Inquisition was all about saving the world from a big threat.  I honestly would get fatigued, especially since I am also a Mass Effect fan, if it was a grand scale world disaster again.  I have faith that they will still tell a good story.  DA2 had it's faults, I would never argue that it didn't.  But given more time, I think they could do a focused story like that again and do it right this time.  Although the chances of that right now, ehh I dunno.  they did spend a lot of money and time switching to the Frostbite engine.  Ok I am going to start rambling, I'm just going to end this post now lol.

 

(seriously what was in my coffee today?!)

[AutumnOracle]

So would I.  The only time it really got implemented in DAI was with Redcliffe and Therinfall.  And I think the impact would have been much greater if you saw the aftermath of whichever side you didn't help.

 

Because I gotta admit--when I went back to Redcliffe with my Lavellan and it was pretty much peachy (except the absence of Connor), I was distinctly unimpressed.  Though I 100% understand that they already bit off more than they could chew with DA:I, and some things just couldn't be done in time or at all.

 

I noticed in the keep there is someone/something you can lose. On the storm coast.  The problem for me is I didn't even know that existed.  That it was time sensitive wasn't really conveyed.  So I guess that if they do that I'm cool with it as long as it's clear that this is a timed mission and if you don't do it then you'll lose out.

[Illyria]

So would I.  The only time it really got implemented in DAI was with Redcliffe and Therinfall.  And I think the impact would have been much greater if you saw the aftermath of whichever side you didn't help.

 

Because I gotta admit--when I went back to Redcliffe with my Lavellan and it was pretty much peachy (except the absence of Connor), I was distinctly unimpressed.  Though I 100% understand that they already bit off more than they could chew with DA:I, and some things just couldn't be done in time or at all.

 

The whole 'Alexius threw the other chantry priests out but I remain to help' think from the Mother falls flat when you walk past a dozen or so priests to get to her...

[Moirin]

And this is why Solas has to get resolved in the middle of DA4.  I mean...I love you Solas but there is SO MUCH MORE I WANT TO KNOW.  There has to be more than 3-4 people....HAS TOO.

 

Agreed!

[Illyria]

I noticed in the keep there is someone/something you can lose. On the storm coast.  The problem for me is I didn't even know that existed.  That it was time sensitive wasn't really conveyed.  So I guess that if they do that I'm cool with it as long as it's clear that this is a timed mission and if you don't do it then you'll lose out.

 

I've looked at the Keep and can't find the choice you mentioned.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I actually wouldn't mind if the next game would be more intimate like DA2 was.  Before all the DA2 haters tar, feather me, and string me up; I don't mean copy pasted caves and the same maps for 30+ hours!  Origins and Inquisition was all about saving the world from a big threat.  I honestly would get fatigued, especially since I am also a Mass Effect fan, if it was a grand scale world disaster again.  I have faith that they will still tell a good story.  DA2 had it's faults, I would never argue that it didn't.  But given more time, I think they could do a focused story like that again and do it right this time.  Although the chances of that right now, ehh I dunno.  they did spend a lot of money and time switching to the Frostbite engine.  Ok I am going to start rambling, I'm just going to end this post now lol.

 

(seriously what was in my coffee today?!)

 

There's no reason they can't tell a more focused story with Frostbite.  The same engine can be used to build many different kinds of games, and they already have the groundwork in place this time around.

 

And I loved DA2 as well.  As a game, it was riddled with problems.  But it was such an interesting deconstruction of the standard Western RPG--by the same company that basically wrote the book on the modern Western RPG.  I liked how personal it got.  I liked having a family.  I liked that reality didn't break its rules to suit my PC's whims.

[_Lucinia]

I noticed in the keep there is someone/something you can lose. On the storm coast.  The problem for me is I didn't even know that existed.  That it was time sensitive wasn't really conveyed.  So I guess that if they do that I'm cool with it as long as it's clear that this is a timed mission and if you don't do it then you'll lose out.

Are you sure that wasn't The Fallow Mire?  If you don't rescue the soldiers there before sealing the breach you lose them.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Are you sure that wasn't The Fallow Mire?  If you don't rescue the soldiers there before sealing the breach you lose them.

 

Might be the mission to rescue Sutherland.  If you don't do it upon your next visit to the Storm Coast, they die.

 

(though that bit's also buggy as all hell  )

[AutumnOracle]

I actually wouldn't mind if the next game would be more intimate like DA2 was.  Before all the DA2 haters tar, feather me, and string me up; I don't mean copy pasted caves and the same maps for 30+ hours!  Origins and Inquisition was all about saving the world from a big threat.  I honestly would get fatigued, especially since I am also a Mass Effect fan, if it was a grand scale world disaster again.  I have faith that they will still tell a good story.  DA2 had it's faults, I would never argue that it didn't.  But given more time, I think they could do a focused story like that again and do it right this time.  Although the chances of that right now, ehh I dunno.  they did spend a lot of money and time switching to the Frostbite engine.  Ok I am going to start rambling, I'm just going to end this post now lol.

 

(seriously what was in my coffee today?!)

 

I'm cool with this.  I really disliked DA2 but it wasn't the story as much as the technical issues.

 

I wasn't cool with all the characters being bisexual(I love gating with options for all), the lack of different races(cause I love elves) and some of the limitations for character fighting styles.  I still miss the ranger abilities BTW Bioware.

[_Lucinia]

There's no reason they can't tell a more focused story with Frostbite.  The same engine can be used to build many different kinds of games, and they already have the groundwork in place this time around.

 

And I loved DA2 as well.  As a game, it was riddled with problems.  But it was such an interesting deconstruction of the standard Western RPG--by the same company that basically wrote the book on the modern Western RPG.  I liked how personal it got.  I liked having a family.  I liked that reality didn't break its rules to suit my PC's whims.

Oh for sure.

 

I guess what I mean with the Frostbite engine is that they've invested so much in going open world that it might be considered a waste, of sorts, to scale back more like DA2.  I really want to run around Tevinter.  Maybe the next game will be focused on Minrathous like Kirkwall in DA2.

 

(I also love DA2.  I didn't give it a chance first time I played it because I was expecting more Origins.  But I immediately replayed it with an open mind and I ended it up playing it more than I ever did Origins.  It struck the same chords for me that it did for you.)

[_Lucinia]

Might be the mission to rescue Sutherland.  If you don't do it upon your next visit to the Storm Coast, they die.

 

(though that bit's also buggy as all hell  )

Oh duh!  Forgot about that.  I actually had that happen my first PT.

 

edit:  Have some top Solas!

 

Spoiler

[AutumnOracle]

I've looked at the Keep and can't find the choice you mentioned.

 

Sutherland's company.

[Illyria]

Might be the mission to rescue Sutherland.  If you don't do it upon your next visit to the Storm Coast, they die.

 

(though that bit's also buggy as all hell  )

 

Speaking of Sutherland - does anyone else think the dialouge doesn't match up with the quest.  Sutherland's dialouge implies that the fight was against humans who had thought Sutherland and his company worthless for ransom, but the actual in game fight is against Darkspwan.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Maybe the next game will be focused on Minrathous like Kirkwall in DA2.

 

So much want.

 

I would love it if Minrathous was like Sigil in Planescape: Torment.  This confusing, dangerous, labyrinthine city where the next turn could take you to a hidden treasure from centuries ago, or a crazy old man selling fruit that tastes like hellfire.  Or kill you.  Instantly.  With near-infinite layers to it, and almost as many ways to get into terrible trouble.

[Jayla]

Are you sure that wasn't The Fallow Mire?  If you don't rescue the soldiers there before sealing the breach you lose them.

 

That's good to know for my Disaster Mage playthrough. >:3

[Illyria]

So much want.

 

I would love it if Minrathous was like Sigil in Planescape: Torment.  This confusing, dangerous, labyrinthine city where the next turn could take you to a hidden treasure from centuries ago, or a crazy old man selling fruit that tastes like hellfire.  Or kill you.  Instantly.  With near-infinite layers to it, and almost as many ways to get into terrible trouble.

 

Really sounds like you'd enjoy Fallen London and/or Sunless Sea.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Really sounds like you'd enjoy Fallen London and/or Sunless Sea.

 

I really liked Fallen London, though it's been a while since I've played.  Haven't gotten around to Sunless Sea yet.

 

Oh duh!  Forgot about that.  I actually had that happen my first PT.

 

I had the quest bug out because I'd already finished the Temple of Mythal before I reached the relevant point in Sutherland's quest.

[Cee]

This reminds me that I signed up for Fallen London and then never actually played it.

[Oswin]

Oh for sure.

 

I guess what I mean with the Frostbite engine is that they've invested so much in going open world that it might be considered a waste, of sorts, to scale back more like DA2.  I really want to run around Tevinter.  Maybe the next game will be focused on Minrathous like Kirkwall in DA2.

 

If they did set it in Minrathous I'd want it to be more interactive than Kirkwall was. 

 

Basically I want to be my usual RPG Hero who walks into every home and takes everything.

 

 

Kirkwall sorely lacked homes I could loot.