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I dont like Josie much :(

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Zevran will only ever be meant for my Tabris! And I could never play a new Lavellan and romance Solas, that would feel like cheating XD

 

Why do so many people pick an Adaar for Josie anyway?

 

Because the early flirts between Josie and Adaar are the preciousest thing to ever precious.

 

As much as she tries to be responsible, Josie has a thing for a dashing rogue.  She's almost as bad as Yvette.  So Adaar can play up the whole rough-and-tumble dashing merc thing, and it's so cute.  I made my Adaar for Dorian, and almost went for Josie instead just on those first few flirts.


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Mine is a hunter - which is strange, because she's also a delicate, pampered princess. 

 

She's 10 years old now, yet she's still brisk enough to shower me with mice, especially during autumn^^; - it's still better than a few years back, when she was a passionate bird-killer (and I myself adore birds and wish I could have a few as pets, alas...)

 

She's so much of a huntress in fact, that I'm consider renaming her from Astrea to Andruil :lol:

Cat talk, I love the Solas thread!

My arsehole cat's name is Sebastian. He isn't allowed outside because he is a natural disaster to the local wildlife and he ran away for two weeks one time while I was at my sister's. 

Yet he attempts escape in increasingly crafty and desperate ways.


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By the way, just wondering did anyone break up with Solas in Truspasser or thinking they might break up with him next time that opption comes up? I'm not sure what my first Xbox one, possibely cannon, Lavellan will do. She might even choose Iron Bull over Solas, since he's much more accepting and easier to get along with. All the while thinking "Oh, my clan won't be to mad. I mean its not like he's a shem."On that note, would you're Lavellan choose someone else in DA:I or a romance opption from another game. My new Lavellan would go with Zevran if he was still on the market and my first one would proubebly connect to much with Alister all the while thinking. "Oh S***, oh s***, I can't fall in love with a Shem. I can't fall in love with a shem. Stop falling in love with a shem." Second one would go with Fenris.



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I think whilst Solas and Anders have a lot in common, they approach romance very differently.

With Anders, you have to be, as Sable so eloquently put it, 'on the burning revolution train' or else you're manipulated and twisted into following his plans and jumping into hell with him. Arguably, that's just what Anders wants from his lover - a martyrdom partner in crime who takes mage freedom as seriously as he does - but I wish he at least said as much plainly, allowing you to clearly break up with him before he went forward with his plans, or the chance to argue back and attempt to convince him that his plans were terrible.

Solas, in contrast, takes great pains to ensure his lover doesn't get caught up in his awful plans. That is the last thing he honestly wants - he'll refuse your involvement, even. When he realises that this relationship will clash with his plans, he calls it quits - this way, both of you will be able to follow your principles clearly, and won't be forced to choose between love or principle at any.point. It's one of the things I actually admire greatly about Solas - breaking it off was a very mature, sensible, good decision.

Solas does not mess you about. He has a very honest and serious approach to the relationship, despite everything. Anders doesn't think through it nearly as much and is quite willing to hurt you in order to get what he needs. Which makes him a much nastier, messier dating experience. At the very least, Anders really sucks at relationships and does not respect their partner's needs, desires - including what they want from the relationship, and what they will and will not compromise - and differences.

I agree a lot with what you said, but I wouldn't exactly call Solas honest in the relationship, romantic or just friendship, he might not lie outright, but honesty is the unspoken words too.

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Why do so many people pick an Adaar for Josie anyway? I see a lot for Dorian too, but I assume that's for juicy Tevinter vs Qun drama
 
I wanted to romance Josephine before I came up with the character for her, but my Adaar is a mess of shy insecurity and wanting to belong in the world. She wants a simple life where she can be feminine and sweet with a partner, a family, and no one side-eyeing her, but when you factor in being qunari and a mage that was never going to be easy. In Josephine she finds everything she could ever want as far as the princess side of life is concerned and just goes for it.
 
This is also why she breaks off the romance and gives Josephine up to the guy she's engaged to. Josephine has a real chance at a life and family and everything my Adaar wanted, and Adaar was not taking that away from her. RPwise it worked out perfect. I feel for the poor girl.
 
She was also way, way more betrayed and heartbroken by Solas than my Lavellan was. Go figure. :P 


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I think Weekes took pains to make sure that Solas tried not to hurt Lavellan as best he could.  The relationship was already going to be feelsy and tragic enough.  And I think Sebastian is spot-on when he talks about Anders in Act 3: Anders will never put you above what he wants.  Ever.  

 

 

I hated Loghain at first, and killed him in both my worldstates.  Now I want to go back and apologize :( I still don't agree with a lot of the stuff he did, but he was absolutely right about the Orlesians.  They are useless, vicious asshats and if they ever lay hands on Ferelden, I will personally bring Hakkon back from the Fade and turn their stupid racist country into my personal ice rink.

 

(See?  Bonding over hate :P)

Yeah, Sebastian saw things how they were.

 

Loghain was pretty racist himself...with that said

 

Cassandra disgusted tone: Orlesians


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By the way, just wondering did anyone break up with Solas in Truspasser or thinking they might break up with him next time that opption comes up?

 

I seriously considered it.  

 

Lavellan has every right to walk away from that hot mess.  Solas has caused her so much grief.  *I* would totally take the broken heart, but it's not what my Lavellan would do, so she's still with Solas.  Stubbornly optimistic to the last.


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Ouch! I guess he deserves it :(  though it looks like I'm one of the few who are sympathetic to him right now. Lots of angry Lavellans here :P

Anger is the best cure for heartache


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I keep grabbing my fiance's hand and looking into his eyes and saying "Var lath vir suledin!"
His response is always either. "....Okay?" or "You too, dear. *head-pat*"
I have issues...


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Anger is the best cure for heartache

 

Hot hot rebound sex isn't bad either.


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Because the early flirts between Josie and Adaar are the preciousest thing to ever precious.

 

As much as she tries to be responsible, Josie has a thing for a dashing rogue.  She's almost as bad as Yvette.  So Adaar can play up the whole rough-and-tumble dashing merc thing, and it's so cute.  I made my Adaar for Dorian, and almost went for Josie instead just on those first few flirts.

Is there any actual differences in dialogue options for flirts though?



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By the way, just wondering did anyone break up with Solas in Truspasser or thinking they might break up with him next time that opption comes up? I'm not sure what my first Xbox one, possibely cannon, Lavellan will do. She might even choose Iron Bull over Solas, since he's much more accepting and easier to get along with. All the while thinking "Oh, my clan won't be to mad. I mean its not like he's a shem."On that note, would you're Lavellan choose someone else in DA:I or a romance opption from another game. My new Lavellan would go with Zevran if he was still on the market and my first one would proubebly connect to much with Alister all the while thinking. "Oh S***, oh s***, I can't fall in love with a Shem. I can't fall in love with a shem. Stop falling in love with a shem." Second one would go with Fenris.

This has been my only real issue with the ending of the romance in Trespasser as well done as the whole thing is.....

 

.....no "I care about you so I want to save you, but I think I better move on in the relationship department." option. And my Lavellan would have only picked a breaking up option after he dropped his Apocalypse 2.0 plans. So, I guess that puts me in the boat of clicking a break up option if it ever presents itself in game again.

 

And I have been in a fantastic mood developing all the details of my lovely Lavellan/Zevran scenario. I mean, it really is brilliant. Today I was thinking about how cute and exciting it would be. In between hunting down information for Solas, checking out ancient ruins and making new allies there would be great stuff like Zevran failing whenever they are out in the wilderness and being chased by a Crow or two every time they go into a city.

 

What is there really not to love about this?

 

I found headcanon heaven and its name is Zevran Arainai lol.


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I had the human Cole slide, would anyone share a screenshot of the other one? :)

 

 

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Solas is planning the complete destruction of your world.  It's a lot worse than anything Anders ever did.  But in terms of the relationship, Anders is IMO a lot more personal of a betrayal. I mean, let's be honest; unless you're playing a very particular type of Hawke who jumps on board the burning revolution train, he manipulates and emotionally blackmails you into helping him murder hundreds of people.  It makes Solas's lie by omission about his identity seem not that bad.

 

Anders still gives me the massive tragic feels in the trainwreck that Hawke lived through. It's different from Solas because, yes, it's so personal, even as there is intent in service to the higher goal of mage freedom.

 

Mine loved, worried, supported, and unknowingly helped him....AND spared him and ran off with him later.

 

In DAI, if you do that, when you ask Hawke about him, and you've marked didn't condone his actions in Keep, well, then you get the extra feels layer because they're there for one another, and she's taking care of him, helps keep him together, but what he did still hangs over them and creates a certain lasting tension.

 

Still, I don't regret the romance or that decision. It's a particularly tragic and painful existence and they shared it. But Anders was smaller scale, and given how much downward spiral everything else Hawke went through felt, it fit.


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By the way, just wondering did anyone break up with Solas in Truspasser or thinking they might break up with him next time that opption comes up? I'm not sure what my first Xbox one, possibely cannon, Lavellan will do. She might even choose Iron Bull over Solas, since he's much more accepting and easier to get along with. All the while thinking "Oh, my clan won't be to mad. I mean its not like he's a shem."On that note, would you're Lavellan choose someone else in DA:I or a romance opption from another game. My new Lavellan would go with Zevran if he was still on the market and my first one would proubebly connect to much with Alister all the while thinking. "Oh S***, oh s***, I can't fall in love with a Shem. I can't fall in love with a shem. Stop falling in love with a shem." Second one would go with Fenris.

Oooh, good question. If my Lavellan was the Warden (she would of been 14 XD age her up a bit) from the first game I can't say I'd see her with Zevran or Alistair. I'm going to lean more towards Alistair since Zevran isn't for the faint of heart and that puppy dog personality could probably widdle away anyone after a year together (she definitely would set his a** on fire if he broke up with her though, but I doubt she'd have made him king).

If she was Ithilia Hawke definitely not Anders, so Fenris XD haha but I could actually see her falling for Fenris. She feels for his suffering and pain, even if his views on mages annoy her, and that compassion turns to LUUUVVV *.*

... 

*coughs*

But she has Solas.



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I wanted to romance Josephine before I came up with the character for her, but my Adaar is a mess of shy insecurity and wanting to belong in the world. She wants a simple life where she can be feminine and sweet with a partner, a family, and no one side-eyeing her, but when you factor in being qunari and a mage that was never going to be easy. In Josephine she finds everything she could ever want as far as the princess side of life is concerned and just goes for it.
 
This is also why she breaks off the romance and gives Josephine up to the guy she's engaged to. Josephine has a real chance at a life and family and everything my Adaar wanted, and Adaar was not taking that away from her. RPwise it worked out perfect. I feel for the poor girl.
 
She was also way, way more betrayed and heartbroken by Solas than my Lavellan was. Go figure. :P

 

That's sad. If your Adaar did that to me I would tell her not to treat me like a child, that I could make my own choices, and that being with you makes me happy *.* apparently I'm in love with your Adaar.

 

Anders still gives me the massive tragic feels in the trainwreck that Hawke lived through. It's different from Solas because, yes, it's so personal, even as there is intent in service to the higher goal of mage freedom.

 

Mine loved, worried, supported, and unknowingly helped him....AND spared him and ran off with him later.

 

In DAI, if you do that, when you ask Hawke about him, and you've marked didn't condone his actions in Keep, well, then you get the extra feels layer because they're there for one another, and she's taking care of him, helps keep him together, but what he did still hangs over them and creates a certain lasting tension.

 

Still, I don't regret the romance or that decision. It's a particularly tragic and painful existence and they shared it. But Anders was smaller scale, and given how much downward spiral everything else Hawke went through felt, it fit.

:( Not to my Hawke

 

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So Grease just came on and I thought of this line...

 

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And I couldn't help but apply it to Solas...

 

Everything goes straight to Solas.

 

Help me.


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 I'm planning on one day doing a play through for all the romances and since I haven't played a male yet I have a two-handed Adaar, archer Lavellan, and sword and shield Trevelyan planned. I actually want to start a new game with one of them soon, but out of Josie, Cass, and Dorian who should I romance first and with whom should they be romanced with?

 

Important life questions!!!!

 

I'm going to make m!Lavellan mage and go for Cassandra. I also have a Trevelyan mage for Sera coming. I love Josie but she's too much like me so it feels weird. But she's adorable and her romance is so sweet, so I'd say do it. Since you can also romance Josie with a woman if you'd like, maybe go for the ones you can't, like Cass or Dorian first?
 


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That's sad. If your Adaar did that to me I would tell her not to treat me like a child, that I could make my own choices, and that being with you makes me happy *.* apparently I'm in love with your Adaar.

 

I'm sure my Adaar is flattered by your love. :D

 

I know it's a problematic way to consider a relationship, but I did say she's a mess. Probably why she was more hurt by Solas than Lavellan was; she's younger, saw him as a mentor and someone to truly relate to and trust. He done eff'd that up good, but I think it was also a character defining moment for her. There's a good chance I'll never get to see where that takes her, if we get a new protagonist next game... but it would be interesting as heck to find out.


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This has been my only real issue with the ending of the romance in Trespasser as well done as the whole thing is.....

 

.....no "I care about you so I want to save you, but I think I better move on in the relationship department." option. And my Lavellan would have only picked a breaking up option after he dropped his Apocalypse 2.0 plans. So, I guess that puts me in the boat of clicking a break up option if it ever presents itself in game again.

 

And I have been in a fantastic mood developing all the details of my lovely Lavellan/Zevran scenario. I mean, it really is brilliant. Today I was thinking about how cute and exciting it would be. In between hunting down information for Solas, checking out ancient ruins and making new allies there would be great stuff like Zevran failing whenever they are out in the wilderness and being chased by a Crow or two every time they go into a city.

 

What is there really not to love about this?

 

I found headcanon heaven and its name is Zevran Arainai lol.

 

I think that if you don't pledge to save him, but instead stop him at all cost, it's sort of a breakup.

He treats Lavellan like a friend with high-approval after that, but I can't be certain. I haven't seen the epilogue slides for someone who did it.



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I feel the same way about Anders. Honestly I don't know what it is that makes me despise him so much, yet still love and sympathize with Solas. There both radical, misguided, with a serious case of martyrdom, they both betrayed your trust and possibly your love, and chose their perception of the greater good over you, yet I loooaaaatttthhhheeee Anders, and love Solas.

 

They did do a good job getting different reactions to him. I wrote a lengthy post about it at one point.

*goes to find it*

Anders' character seemed kind of static to me. I know the reason I didn't care for Anders, initially, was that he was so flippant about the deaths of the Templars when you first meet him in Awakening, and I never really got over that or thought that he was cute because he liked cats. I sympathized that he had a horrible life with a lot of tragedy, that what was happening in Kirkwall was unacceptable, but making my Hawke complicit in terrorism without explaining what he was doing... yeah, I killed him in horrified anger and sadness. 

 

Solas, on the other hand, is very serious and reserved, very considerate and polite, and appears to really care about people and what happens to them (even if initially he sees them as lesser beings). You don't know until later, that he wanted to blend into the background until this thing with the orb was resolved, and be able to walk away. Yet, you watch him over the course of the game changing, opening up, being curious about and connecting with you (if you befriend or romance him) and your companions and ultimately questioning his beliefs and his duty.

 

He is a ball of regrets in the end, wishes there were another way, but his sense of duty towards his people who he feels he had wronged, is too strong. So Solas is every bit as tragic and misguided as Anders if not moreso - but by the end of Trespasser, (if you befriended or romanced him) you aren't left with the feeling that you cannot alter his course, or change his mind about his plans, or that there is literally nothing you can do to keep him from his disastrous intentions. I think that's what makes all the difference between them. Anders was an unstoppable time bomb, Solas (I hope) may be defusable.

 

The Inquisitor, I have always thought, is kind of this beacon of hope to people (Wouldn't it be cool if the thing about their spirit that Solas sees as special, is because they actually are some sort of incarnation of a spirit of Hope, or touched by one? :D), and has the strength and character to make changes and inspire, has good insights and perspective. Solas needs someone like that in his life, or he wouldn't have been been visiting a spirit of Wisdom on a regular basis before it died.

 

The Veil may be doomed to collapse but perhaps Solas will ultimately not be the one to pull the trigger, so to speak, or there will be more to the situation than that. I really hope we are given something more than, so sad, he broke the world, no fixing it, so he has to die, the end.


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:( Not to my Hawke

 

 

 

 

Not smaller scale than what Solas is trying to do? :P



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I think that if you don't pledge to save him, but instead stop him at all cost, it's sort of a breakup.

He treats Lavellan like a friend with high-approval after that, but I can't be certain. I haven't seen the epilogue slides for someone who did it.

 

Yep, I that option seems to end the romance as well - which I'm not surprised by, considering that first option to break up before we find out what Solas plans to do; plus Inky is determined to stop Solas with 'whatever means necessary' if they pick that option, which means that they likely plan to sacrifice or forget their friendship or romance to stop him by all costs.

 

We'd likely get option to break up with him with Lavellan in future game (IF we'd get to make choices with our Inquisitor that is) as well, because I expect the story to be trying for their bond (or friendship with approved Inquisitor for that matter), though I do hope that determined Inquisitors who go extra length and suffer additional pain will eventually be rewarded with something special, even if bittersweet or downright sad.



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SOLAS IS A GODDAMN MONSTER. F!LAVELLAN IS A PSYCHO. 

 

Thank you for playing Dragon Age...


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