Does anyone have a suggestion how to tint the DLC armor (skin that stalks)?
Don't know how to upload photos, but I think white (nugskin) to chest and pants VS other colours works quite well, especially with shiny blue(silk brocade). Or brown-er white(halla leather) VS gentle green (everknit wool) to match with Solas
Speaking of this armor, am I the only one who think it looks very odd on male companions? Iron bull especially.
Don't know how to upload photos, but I think white (nugskin) to chest and pants VS other colours works quite well, especially with shiny blue(silk brocade). Or brown-er white(halla leather) VS gentle green (everknit wool) to match with Solas
Speaking of this armor, am I the only one who think it looks very odd on male companions? Iron bull especially.
About Stalker armours... it is bugged for males. It switches male body types for females. And Iron Bull always looks little weird in DLC armour because they use Inquisitor's body type and not his own.
Does anyone have a suggestion how to tint the DLC armor (skin that stalks)?
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I have to go with something that looks good on my Inquisitor.
Lavellan's name is Silme which means starlight in Quenya (Tolkien).. So i go with something that reminds me that. She has white hair.. So I tinted it white and silver, it looks quite nice when she moves and it shines.. Though you can't see that well in the SS.
My Trevelyan has light red hair so I made her a brown and shiney copper one, also looks really nice
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On Solas being patronizing, people shouldn't be surprised given he always had a patronizing streak. That is, unless you always agreed with what he had to say. Then he was always quite pleased with you. I guess that's why it rubbed some the wrong way, you always could please him by helping his pride. I think you hurt his pride a bit by stating the obvious to him, as if he doesn't know when he's directly the cause. Which, I can't blame him, I'm always annoyed a bit when people tell me things I not only know, but know even more than they do. Arrogant, I suppose.
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It also depends heavily on how you read it in particular. Not that Solas can't have bitter, arrogant, or jaded viewpoints, or even stubborn resignation, but the thing others found patronizing was totally not to me.
I read the exchange as "I know they were after me, and I know you were trying to get here, and that you care"...and that that would've been a motivating factor. It came off warmly to me.
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So, a friend of mine just finished Trespasser and was struggling with feels and the hell-spiral. Despite the fact that I gave up on Team Optimism after DAI and before Trespasser and had prepared myself for the absolute worst... I finished Trespasser, ruminated for a long time and gathered my thoughts... and bizarrely enough, I am actually back on Team Optimism more firmly than I ever was before.
If you need a shot of hope, then check out the spoiler Wall of Text below for my interpretation of events thus far. Obviously, it contains massive Solas spoilers of every variety imaginable.
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My friend:
I played the DLC and I'll be honest I just now finished it and am listening to the end credit music and I played this specifically because I wanted to have my Solas. Here is my reaction:
Bioware will never let you have him. Solas won't let you have him. Sleeping with my arm cut off - welp he took my heart and my arm, can I give him anymore? Oh and my Sylvia's hope of ever loving again. Oh and yeah. I'm bummed. It's ok- DA: Next I will definitely get. But just like how depressing the ending was for me in ME3 it reduces my ability to play it EVER AGAIN. It's a depressing ending. For reals. It was worth the money - it was a GOOD DLC - I'm not saying it is bad or anything. But my precious heart can't take it and my fanfic brain matter is finding a hard time working around this and pretending that it was never meant to be *cries*
My response:
Well, depending on choices you made in the "break-up" scene at the waterfall he gives you after the Temple of Mythal in the base game, you could have given him your vallaslin as well if you let him remove the slave markings. Yeah, my poor Mikayla... he took her vallaslin, her heart, and now her arm... they are NOT kidding when the Dalish curse says "Dread Wolf take you"!
Okay, I'm not quite as down in the dumps as you, but that's also thanks to a lot of meta knowledge from interviews folks did with his writer, Patrick Weekes, and such. So, here is everything I know about Solas and my personal feelings on the matter.
According to a NerdAppropriate interview with Patrick they did right after the game came out, we learned some behind-the-scenes on that final romance scene at the waterfall. Patrick flat-out says he hopes everyone came away from that realizing just how much Solas DOES love your Inquisitor. Because it's a lot. A LOT. The cinematic designer for the scene did everything possible to try and convey that. Solas didn't take you there to break up with you. He took you there because he was literally thiiiiiiiiiiiis clooooooooooose to telling Lavellan everything. And I mean, everything. Up to and including, "Hey, I'm the Dread Wolf your people fear as a corrupted god." And he was willing to put away his plans and his future to lose himself in you and his love for you.
And then he gets scared. Yes, the big bad Dread Wolf actually becomes fearful of what you'll think and he backpedals on the confession. When he says you deserve the truth, he was about to spill all the beans and then seized up on it and retreated into telling you the truth about the vallaslin instead. And then he realizes just how far in love he's fallen and pulls back because he feels an overwhelming duty - as Fen'Harel the Dread Wolf rather than Solas the Adorkable Fade Nerd - to try and correct his past mistakes. And he breaks it off. You can see the exact point in that scene when his heart breaks, when he realizes this and what he must do, it's in his eyes.
But the big thing about that interview was learning how far on the precipice Solas was there. I think that's important because he's already faced that precipice now. It's unlikely they would, from a writing standpoint, revisit the exact same one. So, I feel that frees up the romance to finally end up somewhere definitively somehow - for good or for ill. He made a decision and he walked away from her once... I don't see that happening again if she's given a final chance to confront him in DA4.
So, what did we have after DAI? We had a Solas who realizes how much in love he is with Lavellan but feels duty-compelled and guilt-compelled to try and right his wrong. The revelations throughout Trespasser tell us he created the Veil, he separated the elves from the Fade, and did so trying to save the elves from the uber-powerful ones who called themselves gods. And the effort was so great that he had to go into a long sleep to recover.
Then, he wakes up a year before the events of DAI and sees a world completely shattered from what he remembered. His people, the elves, have fallen. They have lost their immortality and most of their magic in direct effect of his Veil that he thought would save them from themselves. They are now either lost nomads trying to squeak by a living and hated wherever they go or they are living in squalor in human cities as homeless or servants to the other races.
AND IT'S ALL HIS FAULT.
I... can't begin to imagine the shock and guilt running through his system. It blinds him to the fact that, during his sleep, all sorts of new cultures and people have come into being and the world moved on, adapted to his machinations, and carried on in a new direction. Not "bad", not "wrong", just "different". A "new normal". Instead, he sees something that should not be. It is not much different from Inquisitors who sided with the mages and went through that red lyrium future in Redcliffe... remember how horrified you were at this potential future? And you were focused on going back in time and making sure it never happens?
That's where Solas is mentally right now. He done f*cked up - in his mind - and now he's torn between being "selfish" and running away with Lavellan to have a happily ever after or reversing his actions and trying to restore the elven people he unintentionally cast down.
Guilt can make a person do some pretty stupid things.
At the end of Trespasser, we confront a Solas who is determined to undo what he did in the first place - even at the cost of sacrificing the current world (which doesn't feel "real" to him... it is a "mistake", like the red lyrium future at Redcliffe was a "mistake" in the Inquisitor's eyes). Which is pretty damn disturbing, but I personally feel that Solas - in this very moment - is now on the Moral Event Horizon precipice.
The fact that a romanced Lavellan (or just a friend high-approval Inquisitor) can make dialogue choices that reflect not giving up on him gives me hope. Solas is running off to go do what he feels is his Fen'Harel Dread Wolf duty to the people. But the final scene at the end, right before the credits, shows an Inquisitor who - depending on that final dialogue choice - is either going to stop Solas by any means necessary or is running off to try and save him from himself.
I have no idea how long they want the Solas arc to go on or how much future content is wrapped around him. But we know the Dalish "gods" can have ends. Flemeth - Mythal - went through two games and met an "end" in this one by giving her power over to Solas. Solas, logically, could have an end in the next game. If he does, I think we will have a choice. He'll either be destroyed... or we'll be able to save him from himself, stop him and let him bow out gracefully into the sunset... perhaps, even, with Lavellan. I don't think we're going to play our Inquisitor - at least fully - in the next game, both because of the missing arm and because of the tradition of having a new protagonist each game plus the ending sequence talking about recruiting people Solas doesn't know. I think we get a new protagonist who will be working FOR the Inquisitor, though, and that the Inquisitor will ultimately decide Solas's fate once he's defeated in combat and gets some bloody f*cking sense knocked into that bald head.
The way they leave that final dialogue open to chocie - to choose to oppose Solas or try to save him - gives me hope. We had a choice to kill or redeem Loghain. We had a choice to kill or not kill Anders. I see no reason we can't have a choice to kill or redeem Solas. And if we redeem him, I don't see a reason why he can't stay by Lavellan's side. Because if we defeat and spare him, he's no longer bent on trying to "correct" the world... he no longer has the thing from which he stepped back from the romance precipice for. There would be nothing left standing in the way of following his damned heart and being with Lavellan. Hell, even the epilogue slides after Trespasser state that he visits her in dreams from afar in wolf form... all sad panda and still so very much in love that it hurts him... and that she is hell-bent on trying to change his heart.
I don't think this is being all set up for an ultimate heartbreak. I personally think this could - depending on your player decisions - become the best damned love story ever told.
I WILL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP. I WON'T PUT MY HANDS UP AND SURRENDER. THERE WILL BE NO WHITE FLAG ABOVE MY DOOR. I'M IN LOVE AND ALWAYS WILL BE.
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It also depends heavily on how you read it in particular. Not that Solas can't have bitter, arrogant, or jaded viewpoints, or even stubborn resignation, but the thing others found patronizing was totally not to me.
I read the exchange as "I know they were after me, and I know you were trying to get here, and that you care"...and that that would've been a motivating factor. It came off warmly to me.
I read that situation same as you. I mean (my) Lavellan clearly wanted to reach Solas before Qunari could kill him and Solas just appreciates her worry about his well-being.
Also on this spirit of hope stuff, my main problem with it isn't the possibility of it being true, but what it does to my outlook on the story. What makes Dragon Age Inquisition's story surprisingly good for me is as previously said, the not knowing. The idea that we could have Andraste on our side or simply be someone capable that by chance was given power, magical, political and militarily speaking is what makes it so compelling for me. And the fact that we're discussing still what was the cause of our rise shows the point perfectly.
Granted, this spirit of hope thing is presented as a theory, not a fact, and that discussion still continues. However, if I began to accept said theory even a little, it starts to take away from the story in my opinion. You can be a "spirit of hope" without being a spirit of hope. A symbol. And from what I gathered, that's what was being said. And if that's the case, and you don't mean the Inquisitor just popped out of the fade, and rather they were simply born with a special soul that makes them more likely to be an agent of hope for the world to explain this supposed fate to be always in charge, then why is the explanation of a special soul needed, when it's, in my opinion, much more interesting and compelling to say you're the current time's symbol of hope? Chance or fate brought you here, but what you did with the opportunity and how you handled things is what made you continue to be influential. You don't need a special spirit for that.
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It also depends heavily on how you read it in particular. Not that Solas can't have bitter, arrogant, or jaded viewpoints, or even stubborn resignation, but the thing others found patronizing was totally not to me.
I read the exchange as "I know they were after me, and I know you were trying to get here, and that you care"...and that that would've been a motivating factor. It came off warmly to me.
Depends on the person. I see what you mean I think. I personally would be reasurred if I said that I've come because I care, basically, and someone tells me they know, even if it is stated in a way that makes it seem as though my words were unecessary. To others, that is dismissive, and considering Solas left and said nothing of what he was doing, I can understand why people would consider this patronizing. He's already dismissed you, and now he's doing it again without much care, seemingly.
edit: And it's hard to pass the "he's just saying he knows we care" thing when he says he's the cause of it, making it seem like he's just referring to his knowledge of what's going on, rather than your motivations for being involved.
Sorry to interrupt what's being discussed at the moment, but I'm doing another Solavellan playthrough (disaster mage, gonna make all the wrong choices!), and I found it absolutely hilarious that the first thing Solas talks about when you ask him about the Fade is what it'd be like if the Veil wasn't there. And when you're talking about spirits you can say:
Inquisitor: Is there a way to change that? To coexist without such open hostility? (Or something to that effect, I can't remember right now)
AND SOLAS SAYS: Not in the world we know today, but it matters that you thought to ask.
NNNNNNNNGH! I'M ENCOURAGING HIM!
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EDIT: Crap, I just realized my post is on top! SOURCE.
Im sorry to bring an old topic back, im always sooo behind, this thread goes to fast for me to keep up .
About the mythal/solas ex-lovers case, I wanted to leave my thoughts/feelings here. For one this would be gross, and very diminishing regarding our Lavellans, and i dont think would be such a case.
Solas respected mythal as she cared and protected people and his love for her comes from that. I dont know why their relationship is "complex", it could be many things, i wont get into this (former promoted guardian, a freedom spirit embodied on call, an entity older that all evanuris/oldgods or whatever, fighting for freedom-be it body/material as in slavery or mental as having the freedom of thought and choice-is always present/needed whatever the realm/time is), there are many possibilities, hopefully explained in coming games. They surely have been a lot together, they were allies aligned by the same goals. But none of this suggests any of them being in-love, despite the intimacy they seem to have. In times of war/conflict comrades in battle tend to get intimate/close like this without anything erotic between them.
In Lavellan, he sees all these traits he respects in mythal, but unexpectanly finds even more than he did till now:
She never aspired to rulership, or claims to be other that a simple person (mythal was an evanuris afterall, never rejected her 'godhood' and she had slaves). Quizzy had a great chance claiming a title for her self through all her accomplishments, but still did not, she still remains as was.
She believes in equality (she never treated anyone of lower status with superiority afaik, or she never feared to oppose nobles when they were injust), she is a strong woman when facing enemies, tries to be fair and not vindictive in her judgment (although some may literally throw goats at her walls for this, lolz) but in their private moments she is very sweet, shyly alluring and caring, bringing his own same-as-this self on surface too.
While I agree for the most part, I'm pretty sure you can claim your title and pretend like you actually ARE Herald of Andraste and still romance Solas. Not that I did, but I'm fairly sure you can. He may not like it either, but it's possible I think.
It also depends heavily on how you read it in particular. Not that Solas can't have bitter, arrogant, or jaded viewpoints, or even stubborn resignation, but the thing others found patronizing was totally not to me.
I read the exchange as "I know they were after me, and I know you were trying to get here, and that you care"...and that that would've been a motivating factor. It came off warmly to me.
Agreed!
Sorry to interrupt what's being discussed at the moment, but I'm doing another Solavellan playthrough (disaster mage, gonna make all the wrong choices!), and I found it absolutely hilarious that the first thing Solas talks about when you ask him about the Fade is what it'd be like if the Veil wasn't there. And when you're talking about spirits you can say:
Inquisitor: Is there a way to change that? To coexist without such open hostility? (Or something to that effect, I can't remember right now)
AND SOLAS SAYS: Not in the world we know today, but it matters that you thought to ask.
NNNNNNNNGH! I'M ENCOURAGING HIM!
Yes, I'm re-doing my playthrough as well and thinking I'm going to change some of my responses that might have encouraged his destroy the world mind set.
Like killing the mages that summoned his friend, allowing him to do that could be encouraging his thoughts that the people of this world are worth less then the people he cares about. I used to let him kill them because I believe my Lavellan figured anybody who screws around with magic/demons/spirits and aren't careful about kinda deserve what they get, a sort of natural selection I suppose.
I'm also probably going to take a different choice at the balcony and use "I'm just like everyone else" instead of my usual joking "Sorry to disappoint" one.
Mine chose that because she was curious and open-minded.
Sigh, Solas.
Yes, mine did too. She's very curious, likes to ask lots of questions. Solas being able to answer them is initially what attracted her to him in the first place. I read a fanfic once that summed it up about right: "She was the girl with a million questions and found the man with a million answers."
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Which is why I was offering the other read on it. Because it does vary per person and character, and didn't seem the least bit patronizing to me.
Were we still talking about the bit where you point out you know he's Fen'Harel and he has that smirky face and says "Well done!" to you? Because that's what I found a bit patronizing. It's like he wanted to pat you on the head and give you a cookie for being a clever girl. To be fair, that line fit my Adaar perfectly, but for Lavellan it was just all wrong. She knew by then what was up, but after reading and seeing everything in the crossroads she wasn't going to demonize him and accuse him of anything. At least not to start. She wanted to be sure he was all right first, and the nice thing is I was able to select options that fit her.
I do really wish the only romance option we could take before finding him did not make her sound "what's a Mythal" levels of stupid.
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Solas is terribly patronizing. I never noticed it much with people he respects, like Lavellan or Cassandra, but you just have to listen to his banters with Sera or Vivienne to know it's true.
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Were we still talking about the bit where you point out you know he's Fen'Harel and he has that smirky face and says "Well done!" to you? Because that's what I found a bit patronizing. It's like he wanted to pat you on the head and give you a cookie for being a clever girl.
No, someone mentioned they found the "I came to find you" one, the way he says "I know", to seem patronizing.
I don't like the "You're the Dread Wolf" line myself, it's too...accusatory for my Lavellan. But I also don't find his "well done" patronizing either. To me, it's like he expected you capable of it.
But I also prefer when he himself tells you he's Fen'Harel, even if it's slightly roundabout.
Solas is terribly patronizing. I never noticed it much with people he respects, like Lavellan or Cassandra, but you just have to listen to his banters with Sera or Vivienne to know it's true.
With Vivienne he can be, definitely. With Sera....to a degree, but then he has a lot of respect for her. With Bull, especially if he remains with the Qun, it's sharp and undisguised. Even Dorian's sincerity can sometimes get undeserved snark in return.
Yes, mine did too. She's very curious, likes to ask lots of questions. Solas being able to answer them is initially what attracted her to him in the first place. I read a fanfic once that summed it up about right: "She was the girl with a million questions and found the man with a million answers."
Oh admit it, she liked asking questions because she liked seeing that "Solas slightly approves" in the corner of her screen Or was that me xDDD
Solas is terribly patronizing. I never noticed it much with people he respects, like Lavellan or Cassandra, but you just have to listen to his banters with Sera or Vivienne to know it's true.
He can be; I like that he has negative personality traits like that... makes him seem a more complex character. I noticed it a lot on my non-Solavellan playthrough (was using a dwarf, consequently).
So, a friend of mine just finished Trespasser and was struggling with feels and the hell-spiral. Despite the fact that I gave up on Team Optimism after DAI and before Trespasser and had prepared myself for the absolute worst... I finished Trespasser, ruminated for a long time and gathered my thoughts... and bizarrely enough, I am actually back on Team Optimism more firmly than I ever was before.
If you need a shot of hope, then check out the spoiler Wall of Text below for my interpretation of events thus far. Obviously, it contains massive Solas spoilers of every variety imaginable.
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My friend:
I played the DLC and I'll be honest I just now finished it and am listening to the end credit music and I played this specifically because I wanted to have my Solas. Here is my reaction:
Bioware will never let you have him. Solas won't let you have him. Sleeping with my arm cut off - welp he took my heart and my arm, can I give him anymore? Oh and my Sylvia's hope of ever loving again. Oh and yeah. I'm bummed. It's ok- DA: Next I will definitely get. But just like how depressing the ending was for me in ME3 it reduces my ability to play it EVER AGAIN. It's a depressing ending. For reals. It was worth the money - it was a GOOD DLC - I'm not saying it is bad or anything. But my precious heart can't take it and my fanfic brain matter is finding a hard time working around this and pretending that it was never meant to be *cries*
My response:
Well, depending on choices you made in the "break-up" scene at the waterfall he gives you after the Temple of Mythal in the base game, you could have given him your vallaslin as well if you let him remove the slave markings. Yeah, my poor Mikayla... he took her vallaslin, her heart, and now her arm... they are NOT kidding when the Dalish curse says "Dread Wolf take you"!
Okay, I'm not quite as down in the dumps as you, but that's also thanks to a lot of meta knowledge from interviews folks did with his writer, Patrick Weekes, and such. So, here is everything I know about Solas and my personal feelings on the matter.
According to a NerdAppropriate interview with Patrick they did right after the game came out, we learned some behind-the-scenes on that final romance scene at the waterfall. Patrick flat-out says he hopes everyone came away from that realizing just how much Solas DOES love your Inquisitor. Because it's a lot. A LOT. The cinematic designer for the scene did everything possible to try and convey that. Solas didn't take you there to break up with you. He took you there because he was literally thiiiiiiiiiiiis clooooooooooose to telling Lavellan everything. And I mean, everything. Up to and including, "Hey, I'm the Dread Wolf your people fear as a corrupted god." And he was willing to put away his plans and his future to lose himself in you and his love for you.
And then he gets scared. Yes, the big bad Dread Wolf actually becomes fearful of what you'll think and he backpedals on the confession. When he says you deserve the truth, he was about to spill all the beans and then seized up on it and retreated into telling you the truth about the vallaslin instead. And then he realizes just how far in love he's fallen and pulls back because he feels an overwhelming duty - as Fen'Harel the Dread Wolf rather than Solas the Adorkable Fade Nerd - to try and correct his past mistakes. And he breaks it off. You can see the exact point in that scene when his heart breaks, when he realizes this and what he must do, it's in his eyes.
But the big thing about that interview was learning how far on the precipice Solas was there. I think that's important because he's already faced that precipice now. It's unlikely they would, from a writing standpoint, revisit the exact same one. So, I feel that frees up the romance to finally end up somewhere definitively somehow - for good or for ill. He made a decision and he walked away from her once... I don't see that happening again if she's given a final chance to confront him in DA4.
So, what did we have after DAI? We had a Solas who realizes how much in love he is with Lavellan but feels duty-compelled and guilt-compelled to try and right his wrong. The revelations throughout Trespasser tell us he created the Veil, he separated the elves from the Fade, and did so trying to save the elves from the uber-powerful ones who called themselves gods. And the effort was so great that he had to go into a long sleep to recover.
Then, he wakes up a year before the events of DAI and sees a world completely shattered from what he remembered. His people, the elves, have fallen. They have lost their immortality and most of their magic in direct effect of his Veil that he thought would save them from themselves. They are now either lost nomads trying to squeak by a living and hated wherever they go or they are living in squalor in human cities as homeless or servants to the other races.
AND IT'S ALL HIS FAULT.
I... can't begin to imagine the shock and guilt running through his system. It blinds him to the fact that, during his sleep, all sorts of new cultures and people have come into being and the world moved on, adapted to his machinations, and carried on in a new direction. Not "bad", not "wrong", just "different". A "new normal". Instead, he sees something that should not be. It is not much different from Inquisitors who sided with the mages and went through that red lyrium future in Redcliffe... remember how horrified you were at this potential future? And you were focused on going back in time and making sure it never happens?
That's where Solas is mentally right now. He done f*cked up - in his mind - and now he's torn between being "selfish" and running away with Lavellan to have a happily ever after or reversing his actions and trying to restore the elven people he unintentionally cast down.
Guilt can make a person do some pretty stupid things.
At the end of Trespasser, we confront a Solas who is determined to undo what he did in the first place - even at the cost of sacrificing the current world (which doesn't feel "real" to him... it is a "mistake", like the red lyrium future at Redcliffe was a "mistake" in the Inquisitor's eyes). Which is pretty damn disturbing, but I personally feel that Solas - in this very moment - is now on the Moral Event Horizon precipice.
The fact that a romanced Lavellan (or just a friend high-approval Inquisitor) can make dialogue choices that reflect not giving up on him gives me hope. Solas is running off to go do what he feels is his Fen'Harel Dread Wolf duty to the people. But the final scene at the end, right before the credits, shows an Inquisitor who - depending on that final dialogue choice - is either going to stop Solas by any means necessary or is running off to try and save him from himself.
I have no idea how long they want the Solas arc to go on or how much future content is wrapped around him. But we know the Dalish "gods" can have ends. Flemeth - Mythal - went through two games and met an "end" in this one by giving her power over to Solas. Solas, logically, could have an end in the next game. If he does, I think we will have a choice. He'll either be destroyed... or we'll be able to save him from himself, stop him and let him bow out gracefully into the sunset... perhaps, even, with Lavellan. I don't think we're going to play our Inquisitor - at least fully - in the next game, both because of the missing arm and because of the tradition of having a new protagonist each game plus the ending sequence talking about recruiting people Solas doesn't know. I think we get a new protagonist who will be working FOR the Inquisitor, though, and that the Inquisitor will ultimately decide Solas's fate once he's defeated in combat and gets some bloody f*cking sense knocked into that bald head.
The way they leave that final dialogue open to chocie - to choose to oppose Solas or try to save him - gives me hope. We had a choice to kill or redeem Loghain. We had a choice to kill or not kill Anders. I see no reason we can't have a choice to kill or redeem Solas. And if we redeem him, I don't see a reason why he can't stay by Lavellan's side. Because if we defeat and spare him, he's no longer bent on trying to "correct" the world... he no longer has the thing from which he stepped back from the romance precipice for. There would be nothing left standing in the way of following his damned heart and being with Lavellan. Hell, even the epilogue slides after Trespasser state that he visits her in dreams from afar in wolf form... all sad panda and still so very much in love that it hurts him... and that she is hell-bent on trying to change his heart.
I don't think this is being all set up for an ultimate heartbreak. I personally think this could - depending on your player decisions - become the best damned love story ever told.
I WILL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP. I WON'T PUT MY HANDS UP AND SURRENDER. THERE WILL BE NO WHITE FLAG ABOVE MY DOOR. I'M IN LOVE AND ALWAYS WILL BE.