That is as shaky as PW's tweets, actually more shaky because fans don't write canon and PW does so he can always come with a new twist for us.
Why don't I get the impression P'Tricky is laughing his head off at us fans discussing things ?
That's a very fair point. At least you admit his tweets are shaky. 
And yes for sure LOL. He will be lapping this up hahahah 
You don't have to accept it as yours, Solas? I'm not here to convince you or anybody else, I'm stating one of my reasons for doubt and saying that I get what Renmiri is saying. Besides, PW is a troll, a lovable troll, but why wouldn't he confirm it if it was so clear cut?
cause he's a sneaky witch thief and derives sustenance from causing confusion and debate
I've probably been
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The above is what everyone refers to in regards to the epilogue scene. Now we know Solas isn't an elven God with Trespasser, so just take care that these notes are for the developers guidance only, and things change as development continues, so these aren't a definitive "this is what happened", but more of a "this is what the developers had in mind at the time".
Edit: some grammar changes because I post before I think.
Thanks for replying back, though I still wonder what the difference between the "essence of her godhood" and her power is...
I guess I just can't accept "PW made a mysterious whooshing noise when questioned on the matter" as an argument in support of the fact that he didn't kill him.
He's a dev. They like to keep us guessing.
Unrelated to current discussion or to anyone here in particular, but this always bugs me when PW says something to that effect and people freak out. It seems people forget that to say "no, it didn't happen this way" can be as damaging as saying "yes, it did happen this way".
Like Cillian, someone asked him if he was an agent for Solas and PW just said "Spoilers", and people on tumblr were effectively saying "welp, he is, bugger me", when that's not what he said at all. He might be, he might not be. It's spoilers! Just because they won't say one way, doesn't mean it's automatically the other way. x)
Or, it could just be that Solas is really very good at finding people in the Fade whose spirits he is familiar with (which would be why it would be easier for him to find Felassan in the Fade than in the Unchanging World, aka reality, whether he was in uthenera or not). There's a lot we don't know about how magic and the Fade work, but it seems like distance and time are not really issues in the Fade.
Shh, lemme be a sappy mess. 
I would like to start a new debate. Whenever "frilly cakes" are mentioned it seems most people think "cupcakes". However, being that this is Orlais and has heavy French influences, I always felt that "frilly cakes" meant "petit fours". I mean, really have you seen some of them? They are SO frilly! And yummy!
I say Solas likes petit fours and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong for .. reasons!
Guest_Keeva_*
I've always said it's all-but-clear.
The Solas you met was a man who was lying at first, and then a man who was changing after that.
I was convinced it wasn't Solas until we were given proof: Cole's line in Trespasser.
I actually like the idea it is him, because the change in him is what makes him so beloved. He shows up all humble and filled with wisdom, plotting secretly to use us, then suddenly we show him that we have more open minds than he thought and he begins to fall in love with the one he uses, and she begins to become too real, so real it reminds him of what happened to Felassan and why he had to die, and now he's sad because he is in the same situation and wants to give it all up for her, but can't.
I can hear Cass swooning in the background as she hears the story.
Yah, like how long has Solas been out and about, exactly? He's had time to develop a healthy loathing for the Dalish by the time he joins the Inquisition, but if it's only been a year, he sure gave up on them pretty fast. I mean, it seems his turnaround time from waking up to plotting the downfall of the world must have been REALLY FAST, since he had to set a lot of wheels in motion, e.g., Felassan, baiting the Venatori, &c.
Super fast given the passing of a year would be quick to an immortal from the time he came from where certain spells took years to cast etc
AND extra fast given he sure af didn't spend the entire year trying to convince Dalish. He'd have other stuff to do like setting plans in motion, adjusting to the new world, etc
damn u solas first u kill my husbando then u mean to ma ppl
I actually like the idea it is him, because the change in him is what makes him so beloved. He shows up all humble and filled with wisdom, plotting secretly to use us, then suddenly we show him that we have more open minds than he thought and he begins to fall in love with the one he uses, and she begins to become too real, so real it reminds him of what happened to Felassan and why he had to die, and now he's sad because he is in the same situation and wants to give it all up for her, but can't.
I can hear Cass swooning in the background as she hears the story.
And yeah I like the idea that it was him for narrative and character establishment and development reasons.
even if i do want to punch him for killin my bae hahahaha
That he does and when he gives confirmation it's only to cause more pain- "He reeeeally loves Lavellan"...
remember the last time I was right about Solas mark my words children mark my words waves hands ominously
flies off on a broom
[this is in jest]
I've always said it's all-but-clear.
The Solas you met was a man who was lying at first, and then a man who was changing after that.
I was convinced it wasn't Solas until we were given proof: Cole's line in Trespasser.
i asked PW just 3 hours after the DLC hit the streets, he still told me "Spoilers". If it was his intention for it to be a crystal clear proof why wouldn't he confirm it ?
I concede one point to you. It is possible that Solas killed Felassan. It is possible that Solas was written that way at the time TME was written, then PW got to write Solas on the game and add the romance and changed Solas. Or kept Solas as planned: changing as you see him. I just don't think so.
But today's Solas, the one we saw in trespasser, fully developed by his author, is not the same as that thing on TME. And I know PW is a tricky devious genius. So I'm pretty sure what we will find out is going to be surprising.
"There would be no arguing, no reasoning.." is Solas to you ?
When it comes down to his mission? Totally.
i asked PW just 3 hours after the DLC hit the streets, he still told me "Spoilers". If it was his intention for it to be a crystal clear proof why wouldn't he confirm it ?
I concede one point to you. It is possible that Solas killed Felassan. It is possible that Solas was written that way at the time TME was written, then PW got to write Solas on the game and add the romance and changed Solas. Or kept Solas as planned: changing as you see him. I just don't think so.
But today's Solas, the one we saw in trespasser, fully developed by his author, is not the same as that thing on TME. And I know PW is a tricky devious genius. So I'm pretty sure what we will find out is going to be surprising.
Addressed first point before: because so close to release, things are spoilers
Addressed second point before: because it's a potential plot point/thing to be mentioned going forwards (ex. maybe Felassan was only made Tranquil); because being not 100% clear creates debate and confirming one way or the other dampens that debate; because's he's PW and he's tricksy
I was already surprised by the twist that it WAS Solas that killed him. Pre-DLC I didn't think it was.
Today's Solas vs TME Solas isn't because Solas was changed in terms of what kind of character he would be; it was because of character development through time from TME to Trespasser (this is only my opinion tho). The fact that you think Solas acted that way because he was changed as a concept in the development process rather than because he developed as a character from his experiences in DA:I suggests to me that although you say otherwise, you do indeed have an issue seeing Solas as someone who would kill his friend. The previous times we had this discussion that was the argument you made; the [very good!] point about the entity not being able to leave the Fade etc is only being brought to the table now.
No matter what a writer intends when writing their characters they are still beholden to what the developers and game director intend. Plot lines change all the time in game development. Of course almost everything is going to be answered with RiverSong.jpg. The dangerous thing with fandoms is that sometimes answering the tiniest little thing can sometimes bite you in the ass later when unforeseen circumstances force a change in the narrative, or the character. Other times they just honestly don't want to spoil it. Fans have a tendency to latch onto things and not let go, and don't react well if something was altered. "You lied!" type of reactions come to mind. They have to watch what they say and be clear all of the time because stuff gets twisted and people set unrealistic expectations. Easier to just say "spoilers".
Other times they just haven't decided exactly where they want a particular character or plot development to end up. I swear I had a better point when I started to type all of this. I'm just saying I don't take Patrick, or anyone else, answering things with "spoilers" as indicative of anything. We all have great imaginations and we're deeply emotionally involved with these games and the characters. It's easy to take that word as meaning the worst, or in other cases good news.
Anywho, carry on
I would like to start a new debate. Whenever "frilly cakes" are mentioned it seems most people think "cupcakes". However, being that this is Orlais and has heavy French influences, I always felt that "frilly cakes" meant "petit fours". I mean, really have you seen some of them? They are SO frilly! And yummy!
I say Solas likes petit fours and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong for .. reasons!
Seriously, so pretty and frilly and French:
Guest_Keeva_*
i asked PW just 3 hours after the DLC hit the streets, he still told me "Spoilers". If it was his intention for it to be a crystal clear proof why wouldn't he confirm it ?
I concede one point to you. It is possible that Solas killed Felassan. It is possible that Solas was written that way at the time TME was written, then PW got to write Solas on the game and add the romance and changed Solas. Or kept Solas as planned: changing as you see him. I just don't think so.
But today's Solas, the one we saw in trespasser, fully developed by his author, is not the same as that thing on TME. And I know PW is a tricky devious genius. So I'm pretty sure what we will find out is going to be surprising.
I think the problem is, what Cole says about it and about a dumped Lavellan connect to Solas and no one else.
Solas: You cannot heal this, Cole. Please, let it go.
Inquisitor: Perhaps Cole can get a better answer from you than I did.
Cole: He hurts, an old pain from before, when everything sang the same.
Cole: You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything, but it can't.
Cole: They sleep, masked in a mirror, hiding, hurting, and to wake them... (Gasps.) Where did it go?
Solas: I apologize, Cole. That is not a pain you can heal.
In Trespasser Cole says:
"His friend had to die. Because he thought they were people. A slow arrow breaks in the sad wolf's jaws."
And the wolf part is a dead giveaway. Later in Trespasser Cole calls Solas a wolf.
i asked PW just 3 hours after the DLC hit the streets, he still told me "Spoilers". If it was his intention for it to be a crystal clear proof why wouldn't he confirm it ?
I concede one point to you. It is possible that Solas killed Felassan. It is possible that Solas was written that way at the time TME was written, then PW got to write Solas on the game and add the romance and changed Solas. Or kept Solas as planned: changing as you see him. I just don't think so.
But today's Solas, the one we saw in trespasser, fully developed by his author, is not the same as that thing on TME. And I know PW is a tricky devious genius. So I'm pretty sure what we will find out is going to be surprising.
Uh, you asked a question about Solas killing Felassan, who was revealed to be his agent in the DLC, and that information is dependent on people having played the DLC to understand the reference. AND you did so merely 3 hours after it was released.
Of course Weekes and all the devs are going to be like "spoilers!" to anyone who asks a question related to information or characters from the DLC for several weeks at least. You cannot expect to be able to use a cagey Twitter response to confirm or deny your position on any topic, much less "did Solas reaaaally kill Felassan or no?"
It's interesting. Previously, even with the post credit scene with Flemeth, I've always been rather meh with Solas before this.
But now? Now he's got this very visceral reaction from me. Now I want to beat him to a bloody pulp with my bare hands. But in a good way. Not like with Michel where I just have an irrational hatred of the character, but in a way where I'm actually impressed they were able to get this rise out of me.
There's actually a queue forming for that. It's bring your own weaponry.
I get where your coming from with Solas. I'm a Solas fan and I found myself actually hating him in Trespressar and rejecting the idea of there being anything good in him. But having spent the time discussing meta and even looking at the thing from Solas' perspective I find him tragic, flawed, horribly messed up, and absolutely the most interesting and well written Bioware companion I've ever met. And he's still my favourite DAI character and LI.
But I also understand why a lot of other fans hate him. Let's face it - we're in the Solas fan thread. We're his fans. We spend a lot of time analysing and discussing his character. People in other parts of the BSN are more likely to say 'that guy is a monster' and leave it at that.
I feel the same way about Anders. Honestly I don't know what it is that makes me despise him so much, yet still love and sympathize with Solas. There both radical, misguided, with a serious case of martyrdom, they both betrayed your trust and possibly your love, and chose their perception of the greater good over you, yet I loooaaaatttthhhheeee Anders, and love Solas.
They did do a good job getting different reactions to him. I wrote a lengthy post about it at one point.
*goes to find it*
No likes so have a 
I mean, Felassan was pretty much a "traitor" to a cause that is everything to Solas and that he's willing to risk everything for. I still feel like I'm the only one who thinks Felassan, though horrible, of course, is one of his more understandable actions thus far. What he's doing now, after Trespasser and after what he's learned, is much worse to me. Felassan doesn't make me find him any less redeemable than I did before.
Cole definitely doesn't seem to sway his opinion on Solas due to that either, even when he obviously knows everything about that. I always roll team Cole, even if his view might be flawed. Maybe it's just that even though I liked him, I didn't care about Felassan as much as others did. *shrug*
"His friend had to die. Because he thought they were people. A slow arrow breaks in the sad wolf's jaws."
Yes it's about Felassan and Solas, I can't find anything else to connect it to. "His friend had to die" is not the same as "He killed his friend". It could be "He let his friend be killed" or "He ordered someone to kill his friend". PW left this ambiguous and I find that interesting.
I'm out of likes sorry Renmiri I want to be liking your and others' posts but I can't 
remember the last time I was right about Solas
flies off on a broom
[this is in jest]
TBH we might see me being the winner of this one, but not because I'm right
What I read on PW's last tweet is that he is still writing and deciding the story and I think he already caught up that 99% of fans have the "Solas killed Felassan" as sure, and guess what authors like to do with things fans think are written in stone ?
So we will see, but if I win this one it might be because PW is a tricky devious genious writer that loves to mess up with his fans, not because I was ever right 
Guest_Keeva_*
Yes it's about Felassan and Solas, I can't find anything else to connect it to. "His friend had to die" is not the same as "He killed his friend". I could be "He let his friend be killed" or "He ordered someone to kill his friend". PW left this ambiguous and I find that interesting.
Exactly why he dumped Lavellan. She was becoming real, meaning everyone in this world was real, so he pushed her away. He even prefers it if you get angry, and if you break up with him in Trespasser he's in less pain than if you stay with him.
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