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It's probably just a reference to the Evanuris in relation to Mythal. The specifics aren't exactly important, though it does allude even more to the relationship between Flemythal and the Evanuris. Interesting to think about :)

 

It's a shame we only see it if Kieran is born. If not, we go straight to where you acquire the Dragon. I thought maybe it was her twisting the Fade to what she desired or a literal metaphor for back-stabber. He kept secrets and knowledge. Maybe he revealed the secret of her blood so Elgar'nan could kill her? Just a theory of course.


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Didn't they full on confirm that they wouldn't? Maybe that's all in my head and I'm remembering wrong.

It was said at one point, but as long as they never out right said He doesn't exist they can get really close to it. I rather Him and Andraste just stay magically religious! I definitely just Luck Charm jingled that in my head.



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off topic but I think I found some foodporn for Alistair 

 

 

 

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off topic but I think I found some foodporn for Alistair 

 

 

 

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And now I'm hungry. It's a little after midnight here.


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5am here ahahha

 

writing sad stories at 5am

 

what is my life

 

i blame the biowers


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And now I'm hungry. It's a little after midnight here.

try channeling your inner-solas 

 

he hates everything nice (except frilly cakes) 

 

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try channeling your inner-solas 

 

he hates everything nice (except frilly cakes) 

 

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Well, we don't know if he likes cheese or not... which gave me some major fluff inspiration, THANK YOU


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try channeling your inner-solas 

 

he hates everything nice (except frilly cakes) 

 

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Didn't he enjoy food, and especially wine, at the Winter Palace?


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And now I'm hungry. It's a little after midnight here.

Same on both counts XD I might go make myself a grilled cheese


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I'm already sad from Solas' fic. :(

 

Some bittersweet would be nice. 

 

Something fell out of my brain. http://archiveofouro...g/works/4834727

 

Past, first love Lavellan returns.

 

I don't like my ending.
 


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Same on both counts XD I might go make myself a grilled cheese

 

I may just go ahead and do this too. Midnight? Eh.



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Didn't he enjoy food, and especially wine, at the Winter Palace?

i just like to imagine him grunting disapprovingly whenever he eats things. Then shaking his head in disappointment. 

 

Solas: "This ... is the most foul tasting meal ... no, not a meal, abomination IN THE FORM OF SUSTENANCE that I've ever had the misfortune of tasting"

 

Lavellan: "You said the exact same thing about the porridge-"

 

Solas: "IT'S ALL HORRIBLE!" *sighs wistfully* "In the times of ancient Arlathan ... food was exquisite ... like sex for the taste buds!" 

 

Lavellan: "If you are about to say you had foodsex in the fade with elf food I'm going to scream."


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Well, we don't know if he likes cheese or not... which gave me some major fluff inspiration, THANK YOU

 

My fluff capacity seems to be halted at one, maybe two. I wish I were better with it.

 

Cheese all over Thedas should certainly help though!


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My fluff capacity seems to be halted at one, maybe two. I wish I were better with it.

 

Cheese all over Thedas should certainly help though!

 

It's a half formed idea about cheese and nugs and maybe I'll put wine in there too.

 

I've been trying to work out what to do with Cole's bachelor party. 



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i just like to imagine him grunting disapprovingly whenever he eats things. Then shaking his head in disappointment. 

 

Solas: "This ... is the most foul tasting meal ... no, not a meal, abomination IN THE FORM OF SUSTENANCE that I've ever had the misfortune of tasting"

 

Lavellan: "You said the exact same thing about the porridge-"

 

Solas: "IT'S ALL HORRIBLE!" *sighs wistfully* "In the times of ancient Arlathan ... food was exquisite ... like sex for the taste buds!" 

 

Lavellan: "If you are about to say you had foodsex in the fade with elf food I'm going to scream."

 

Solas: Not to mention the wine... It's truly horrible.

 

Lavellan: You just say that because you're a weak drinker.

 

Solas: Me? Lethallan, please. One time I drank for a decade. We made a lake full of wine and didn't stop until we drained it.

 

Lavellan: Was it then when you came up with this plan of yours?


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WOAH!! Don't know how I missed that!

 

How do you know it's Dirthamen though?

 

The Raven landmark: "scholars of elven history hypothesized that the elves may have intended the sculpture as a representation of Dirthamen".

 

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Also Mythal and Urthemiel are standing on an ouroboros:

 

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Didn't he enjoy food, and especially wine, at the Winter Palace?

Solas's loves:

Lavellan

Spirits

The Fade

Frilly cakes

Fur over his shoulder

Inquisitor Lavellan

Young love

The underdog

Wolf symbolism

Lavellan

Painting

Snarky comments at other people

Reading

Theorizing 

Being right

Lavellan

Being asked questions

Lavellan asking him questions

Sleeping

Traveling

Befriending spirits

Lavellan

Being asked his opinion

Lavellan asking him his opinion

Court intrigue

His People's history

Lavellan

His jawbone necklace

Saying the Veil is

His vhenan

Lavellan

His love

The one he'll never forget

Lavellan


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-snip-

 

This made me a little teary


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-snip-

So basically Lavellan and being a nerd? and also being a nerd with Lavellan? 


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Gee, wonder how Fenris will take to an Ancient Elven Mage looking to destroy the world? Doubt he'll stand by and let it happen.


LoL. He'd roll his eyes and sigh. Again, mages!

Ugh I hope not! I don't want my Lavellan being the lover that he loved only because she reminded him of a past love. :unsure:


It's unlikely that weekes would ever write him that way. His love for lavellan is genuine.

but I think he loved mythal. not like a lover, however. Honestly, if they did It'd be very hush hush.

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This made me a little teary

oh my lil friend today is so NOT the day for you in terms of happy Solavellan feels it seems  :D  :lol:



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oh my lil friend today is so NOT the day for you in terms of happy Solavellan feels it seems  :D  :lol:

 

Happy Solavellan feels is an oxymoron, falon. 

 

But no, I'm supposed to be thinking of light, happy things... And this thread and all the creativity on it is dragging me to the dark side of angst. 


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Solas & Mythal, relationship, Plans Then & Now

Although a lot of questions have been answered in Trepasser,a few still remain. Is Mythal truly dead? (her essence at least) If so then she sacrificed herself in order to power Solas. This tells me a couple of things.

 

She trusted him wholly, she believed he was the one that needed to restore their people and to that end, she truly is The Great protector and the All-Mother, sacrificing herself in order to help save her people. The fact that he is able to absorb her essence at the end of inquisition is proof of this. However, even if she does so willingly, I believe she knew she wouldn't be able to match his power, being only a shadow of what she once was, which is why I believe she sent part of her essence to Morrigan. She doesn't see the mortal world as Solas does and therefore she doesn't want him to destroy it, even if she wants her people to be restored.

 

We see her send something through the eluvian before she gives herself to Solas. I believe this is her "gift" to Morrigan, who will become her legacy and most likely take her role as the next All-mother. Having been bonded with Flemeth for so long, she knows of the mortal races' worth. I believe she's playing The game, planning a long con, and Morrigan'nan plays into that plan, taking over as her "heir ascendant".

 

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Solas tells us he had "plans" for dealing with the Evanuris once the veil was torn down. Whether those plans are still relevant, unchanged and in effect after Corypheus' interference remains to be seen, but this is not why I brought it up.

 

Remember that Flemythal not only has been among the mortal races for centuries if not millennia, but she is bonded to one. She has seen the world through a mortal's eyes and has suffered as well as felt joy along with her. Mythal saw kinship through Flemeth. She found acceptance and probably felt vulnerable for the first time in her life and both of these women found the courage to help each other in their time of need. Mythal said that for centuries she suffered broken, a wisp of her former self. That gives you time to put things in perspective.

 

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The fact that she knows just how dangerous the Evanuris are, not only having been one of them, but having been struck down by them, then it is not unlikely that her perspective is infinitely different than that of Solas, who is a stranger in a strange world. He depersonalized beings in order to complete his mission. Of course the Inquisitor made him see the world as it was, which tore Solas up, but ultimately did not dissuade him. He has not lived through the same things Mythal has and given his notion of time, then what is 3 years to an effectively immortal being.

 

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With that said we know Mythal has been nudging and (when needed) "shoving" events forward, subtely positioning players across the board that encompasses a grander scheme. Whatever her end goal is, I believe her plans were designed to outlast her. I believe Solas did "end" Mythal as we knew her when he abosrbed her essence, but whatever part of her she sent across the Eluvian was in anticipation of that moment. She has been grooming Morrigan for this purpose, readying her for what's to come.

 

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Here is some proof to back up my claims and expand on my thoughts. This is Abelas' "journal". A codex found in the temple of Mythal.

 

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When Abelas says "You cannot imagine, each time we awaken, it slips further from our grasp."

 

He is talking about  the knowledge of old and the Well of Sorrows, how it was used by their Elders to store their knowledge before they died. He also mentions the younger Elvhen who were born in the temple do not remember what Mythal was in her fullness or the "keeness" of what they lost. He also goes on to say that

 

"I will teach them. They must serve. We must prepare for those who cast Mythal down."

 

Abelas seems to suggest the Evanuris will be unleashed at some point or that their imprisoning is not a permanent solution. Solas mentions he "has plans" for dealing with the Evanuris once he "tears down the veil". Whether Abelas (if you kept him alive) and other Elvhen are (or were, if you killed them) part of that plan remains to be seen, though I think not.

 

I rather believe Mythal is the one who told them to prepare, visiting them as Flemythal (which would make sense as Abelas mentions the younger Elvhen not remembering how Mythal was in her "fullness", and she states to the inquisitor she is only a shadow of her former self. This suggests that she visited them in her "lesser" form much earlier than when her essence was absorbed by Solas).

 

This brings me to the next topic I want to discuss. The relationship between Solas and Mythal. Whether their bond is rather one of mutual respect, extreme friendship and kinship. Whatever the case, I believe she helped him rebel against the rest of the Evanuris. Solas says they killed her in their lust for power but we don't know the context in which this happened.

 

This is my theory on their relationship based off the information we've gathered from recent Trespasser codices

 

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"These statues are old. Better shape than anything I've seen on the surface. Many of them are for Mythal, though. And Fen'Harel. Not in a spot of honor but guarding, attending.

 

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I thought that the first part was perhaps referring to Elvhen people who had no magical talent, yet that is impossible in a time before the veil because of Elvhen nature. The fact that some modern Elves aren't mages is simply because they lost more of their conscious connection to The Fade compared to mages. Dreamer mages actually found a way to keep their conscious connection which is why they don't need to dream to enter The Fade (being their consciously).

 

Now I figured well they can't be talking about Dwarves... because Dwarves connected to Titans don't sleep, which is why they have no conscious or unconscious, connection to The Fade. But then that hit me. Mythal struck down a Titan, what then, happens to Dwarves who lose their symbiotic relationship. Their is an emptiness that resides, something that needs to be filled. I believe Mythal took advantage of this. Whether or not hers was a misguided compassion (given the Elvhen People did not perceive Dwarves as "real" people because they lacked a connection to The Fade, the same way Solas considers modern races of Thedas) remains to be seen, though maybe at this time she was more ruthless and held her goals in higher priority than her ideals, the same way Solas is driven with restoring his people. So in giving them "dreams" Mythal saw this as a boon, elevating the Dwarves. However, given the Evanuris practice of slavery, I think she used this connection. She used it to make the Dwarves mine lyrium for her. This is why there was no resistance. No "war" with the Dwarves.

 

It would also explain the

 

"My little Dwarves,

Never yours the sun (as she kept them underground to mine lyrium for her and the Elvhen people)

Forever, Forever (because the Titan is felled and she now has control)

 

It would explain the statues, the demesne being afforded to the Elvhen people, who now had control of Dwarven "slaves".

 

I also believe this might have been a coup in order to perhaps bolster her followers' magic with lyrium in anticipation of The Evanuris and their greed. Perhaps she was working with them, but the fact that this place was specifically littered with and only with Mythal statues and Fen'Harel statues (her guardian) makes me suspicious of her motives. There was purpose to her actions just as she has always danced to the music, manipulating sound waves like ripples through water.

 

I had also speculated on Solas' actual role as Myhtal's guardian, and him having been her high keeper and perhaps more, makes perfect sense. He could also have freed himself of her service once she was murdered, honoring who she was and what she represented to the people.

 

Remember, Fen'Harel was an insult, a name given to him by the Evanuris. I believe this was in reference to his role as a guardian to Mythal, whom he protected loyally. I'm guessing the slur was in reference to him being on a "leash". A guard dog. But the wolf showed his bite was worse than his bark and his cunning preyed on their pride. This I think would explain how easily he could have caught them off guard. It also perhaps explains his "connection" to The Forgotten Ones, who saw his strength because of his "position". He did not show entitlement and did not rely on his nature but rather on his deeds to claim "power", even if it wasn't his goal but rather a twist of fate.

 

I just want to add these two things to reinforce my points

 

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For their dreams had been devoured by a demon who prowled the fade (Their Pride=Solas, will consume them)

As a wolf hunts a herd of deer (But the wolf showed his bite was worse than his bark)

Taking first the weakest and frailest of hopes, (This I think would explain how easily he could have caught them off guard)

and when there was nothing left,

destroying the bright and bold,

by subtlety and ambush and cruel arts (and his cunning preyed on their pride, for he knew of it well)

 

The prophesy might also refer to what will happen once Solas tears down the veil, rather than when he imprisoned the Evanuris.

 

(If these quotes below refer to Solas, then it fits)

 

He (Solas) did not want a body but she (Mythal) asked him to come,

he left a scar when he burned her (Vallaslin) off his face.

Bare-faced but free, frolicking, fighting, fierce.

He wants to give wisdom (as he once did), not orders (but he must honor his "maker's" plight and save his people)

 

He (Solas) did not want a body but she (Mythal) asked him to come,

he left a scar when he burned her (Vallaslin) off his face.

 

A spirit of wisdom was called forth by Mythal to take physical shape, and in her pride, he found himself, a pale reflection, shaped in her image. He was eventually bound to her but found a way to free himself. Leaving a scar both physically and emotionally. Either pertaining to the "goddess" or to himself. Perhaps this "spirit turned high keeper/guardian" had a special place in the heart of whomever bound him or called him forth, whether against his will or not (he either took form out of misguided love, respect or desperation or, was forced into shape out of misguided love, respect or desperation).

 

Bare-faced but free, frolicking, fighting, fierce.

He wants to give wisdom (as he once did), not orders (but he must honor his maker and save his people)

 

"Solas was released from his "shackles"/"duties". He is not used to freedom, nor is he used to being without standing. I believe he was Mythal's High Keeper and/or Guardian. Bare-face but free suggests his Vallaslin gave him a sense of importance, maybe it showed position, unlike average slaves. the fact that he wants to give wisdom is what makes me feel it suggests he was a either a priest or High Keeper (that was once a spirit of Wisdom, but now is a Man wrought with Pride) . He is now fighting as Fen'Harel rather than for his All-Mother, once again in a position of standing, a begrudging leader, seen to some as a god. Though he fights for what he believes to be right, he rather do as he did before  he was subservient, before things came with the complications of form. Teach rather than command."

 

It slightly changes my interpretation of two of the Cole quotes below on number 10, but the meaning remains the same. It also comes together with my Old God theory. Interesting revelations and provoking thoughts to ponder...


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Happy Solavellan feels is an oxymoron, falon. 

 

But no, I'm supposed to be thinking of light, happy things... And this thread and all the creativity on it is dragging me to the dark side of angst. 

I have some happy prompts sitting in my inbox like "sunshine" but I literally don't know what to do with them LOL I'm so terrible at writing