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He really had the smirky, untrustworthy jack*ss look down well in his early concepts, didn't he? 
I still say getting to know that iteration of his character would have been interesting, even as I am perfectly content with the Solas we got.
I got to admit, it's the kind of look I'd actually except for young "hot-blooded and cocky" Fen'Harel... I said it about him once, that he might have had sort of a rockstar status among elvhen populace once - and that image fits it quite perfectly
I like the idea of a more cocky, free, open young Fen'Harel. I'm imagining the sass and humor Solas already has, except magnified tenfold because he's younger and his life hasn't turned to utter poop yet. And Mythal's just like "This kid..."
He really had the smirky, untrustworthy jack*ss look down well in his early concepts, didn't he?
A few things the writers have said about concept Solas over time suggest that he wasn't as much of a sympathetic character in his earlier incarnations. Which is intriguing when it comes to thinking about his future character arc trajectory, considering he's probably one of the things they've planned from the start. All I know is that if this was the case, I'm so happy we got what we got when it came to Solas.
I didn't know what continuum was until I looked it up (looks interesting
It would take a huge amount of time and random added-on plot devices and lore to make time travel all the way back to Arlathan make sense, especially when they put Alexius's Journal codex up that hints at how difficult it is.
I think they would spend more time on the story rather than trying to make the illogical seem logical.
I never mentioned time travel in the sense that I thought the game was actually going to take us back in time ><
Part of his plan. I made sure to even say that I didn't believe it would happen and we'd stop him before he could pull it off! And that's a totally loose theory based on not much of anything. Sorry, just feel like some of yas got as far as time travel and went from there. If this has nothing to do with my post and you just wanted to talk about time travel in this context, then I apologize.
He really had the smirky, untrustworthy jack*ss look down well in his early concepts, didn't he?
I'm willing to bet that at some point in the future we may be getting a book or a comic (probably closer to release of DA4 or after that).
Taking everything into consideration I'm not sure how much time and resources they'd have in the game itself to flesh his backstory out way more than they did in Trespasser - and the way things shape up we're going to travel to Tevinter, where we're likely going to have a separate plot for the game, finding out a lot about the Imperium itself, the Old Gods, the magisters, the origin of the Blight, more about Qunari (and what about Executors!?), possibly more about elves/Evanuris, dwarves and origins of humans... and then there's the arc for DA4 protag, new companions PLUS some sort of continuation of the thing they've set up between Inquisitor and Solas.
That's... A LOT.
And with so much to tackle they will likely have to relegate some things to additional material. Which I wouldn't mind - since the story from ages long past is pretty much set in stone, it's a one they CAN create a comic or book about.
In fact, with Solas being set to be likely next game's antagonist (+ the Veil creator/destroyer) and with the way they've made him layered and interesting, I'm surprised people don't demand book/comic detailing his past RIGHT NOW...
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I like the idea of a more cocky, free, open young Fen'Harel. I'm imagining the sass and humor Solas already has, except magnified tenfold because he's younger and his life hasn't turned to utter poop yet. And Mythal's just like "This kid..."
A few things the writers have said about concept Solas over time suggest that he wasn't as much of a sympathetic character in his earlier incarnations. Which is intriguing when it comes to his character arc trajectory, considering he's probably one of the things they've planned from the start. All I know is that if this was the case, I'm so happy we got what we got when it came to Solas.
I don't know what it is, but I love a cocky, self-assured, quick-witted character. A lot of people say that women always fall for the bad boy characters, but it's those things that I love the most "good" or "bad" guy.
UHH IT'S SO LATE AND I NEED TO GO TO BED BUT I DON'T WANT TO MISS THE 5000 pages celebration!!!
I never mentioned time travel in the sense that I thought the game was actually going to take us back in time ><
Part of his plan. I made sure to even say that I didn't believe it would happen and we'd stop him before he could pull it off! And that's a totally loose theory based on not much of anything. Sorry, just feel like some of yas got as far as time travel and went from there. If this has nothing to do with my post and you just wanted to talk about time travel in this context, then I apologize.
it was just about time travel in general, sorry. nothing meant against your comment(s) x-x
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"Sooo at the beginning of “In Your Heart Shall Burn,” the Inquisitor closes the Breach and everyone cheers… including Solas."
Ah, but to counter argue with you my friend, the more "interesting" sciences will get more funding/attention.
Who gets how much funding is decided by the government or private funding agencies. We don't know how funding for scientific research works in Thedas. Is it supplied by the court? By the Chantry? Private funds raised by universities? Not sure, but in any case, in Southern Thedas the predominant mood is against magic, so the powers that be will be even more inclined to fund research efforts that are independent of magic.
Also, there are separate funding agencies for different fields. They do get different budgets, but I think it's a complicated combination of 1) how much it costs to do the research (it's cheaper for example to research math theory than molecular biology, since you need all these expensive chemicals and human labor for the biology). 2) how many people are currently working in the field. 3) lobbyists, etc. So it's not simply a question of interesting, and in any case, if there is more funding available, every field will get enough to be productive.
And in DA specifically I'll bring up the non mage healer again. When you have mages and their healing magic at your disposal why learn how to heal/how the body works yourself?
If you had the Eluvians why would you need to build learn to build ships that can cross seas?
If you have alchemy why ever bother to learn chemistry?
And other than the astrariums have Thedasians looked starward at all? To other continents? To cells and human anatomy? Or even the ecosystem?
They look at the Fade and the Veil and wonder all about that, but what about everthing else?
And I will also bring up the very sound research of Harry Potter. Those friggin' wizards no shite about modern technology.
Because it's not just about technology. It's about knowledge.
You don't do research just to be able to invent things, but also to know how things work. Why learn about Physics and the stars when you have magic? Because there will always be those people who would want to know what the stars are and why things fall. And when you pick a question to devote the better part of your life to, you may have to consider what's interesting to others, but you better think really seriosuly about what's interesting to you.
As for why the surgeon seems to know so little: It's just harder and slower to make progress in some fields. But just because you can heal a heart attach with a spell doesn't mean that nobody will want to know what a heart looks like.
I'm willing to bet that at some point in the future we may be getting a book or a comic (probably closer to release of DA4 or after that).
With Solas being set to be likely next game's antagonist and with the way they've made him layered and interesting, I'm surprised people don't demand book/comic detailing his past RIGHT NOW...
Please don't give THAT *looks around* side of the fandom any ideas, please. 
If we ever get to time travel.. 'Young Fen'harel with hair' could work:
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I don't know what it is, but I love a cocky, self-assured, quick-witted character. A lot of people say that women always fall for the bad boy characters, but it's those things that I love the most "good" or "bad" guy.
I personally suspect that a large reason for the stereotype is that "bad boy characters" were better-written overall. In the past, it seemed that writers thought that the only characteristic a "nice guy" character needed was to be nice, which meant there wasn't much else to him. The "bad boy characters" tended to have confidence, charm, wit, depth, complexity, be enjoyable to watch, have more interesting personal stories, etc.
I personally really, really, really don't like "bad boy" characters, but before I discovered Alistair in DAO and Cullen and Solas in DAI, I always went for the "bad boy" love interest character in video games because they had more depth, complexity, and characteristics besides just being "nice," "polite," "noble," or "selfless."
I'm willing to bet that at some point in the future we may be getting a book or a comic (probably closer to release of DA4 or after that).
With Solas being set to be likely next game's antagonist and with the way they've made him layered and interesting, I'm surprised people don't demand book/comic detailing his past RIGHT NOW...
I desperately want anything about Solas right now, trust me. I don't care what medium of story-telling it is. It could be a freaking series of youtube puppet shows and I would still obsess over it.
Please don't give THAT *looks around* side of the fandom any ideas, please.
the ideas are already forming ... we will have our due ... (of solas related stories) 
It's funny because I sort of say that I don't like bald heads, but truthfully, what attracts me are personality and character above looks or gender/presentation (which play their parts but one category can affect others), but bald is not my preference. Though again, Solas seems so "Solas" with the bald head, and he won me over and fit my Lavellan's character too. We were both doomed to this pain. 
I desperately want anything about Solas right now, trust me. I don't care what medium of story-telling it is. It could be a freaking series of youtube puppet shows and I would still obsess over it.
the ideas are already forming ... we will have our due ... (of solas related stories)
I know there's a new dragon age comic series due out on Dark Horse soon, i think either at the end of this month or in November. I've been waiting for it eagerly. In fact I'll recheck the exact date to make sure, I'll edit to let you know when.
Edit: Damn, it's in December... 16th
Here's the article
Acclaimed Writer Brings A New, Original ‘Dragon Age’ Story To Dark Horse
Y'know, with the revelations from Inquisition (especially Trespasser) in mind, does anyone else wonder if;
I dunno, how would this sort of retcon sit with everyone; does he come across as just an unwitting pawn or even more of a tragic anti-villain?
(Reposting this from something I wrote over on the Anders' thread, since I figured more people might see it here... there's less tumbleweed)
Who gets how much funding is decided by the government or private funding agencies. We don't know how funding for scientific research works in Thedas. Is it supplied by the court? By the Chantry? Private funds raised by universities? Not sure, but in any case, in Southern Thedas the predominant mood is against magic, so the powers that be will be even more inclined to fund research efforts that are independent of magic.
Also, there are separate funding agencies for different fields. They do get different budgets, but I think it's a complicated combination of 1) how much it costs to do the research (it's cheaper for example to research math theory than molecular biology, since you need all these expensive chemicals and human labor for the biology). 2) how many people are currently working in the field. 3) lobbyists, etc. So it's not simply a question of interesting, and in any case, if there is more funding available, every field will get enough to be productive.
Because it's not just about technology. It's about knowledge.
You don't do research just to be able to invent things, but also to know how things work. Why learn about Physics and the stars when you have magic? Because there will always be those people who would want to know what the stars are and why things fall. And when you pick a question to devote the better part of your life to, you may have to consider what's interesting to others, but you better think really seriosuly about what's interesting to you.
As for why the surgeon seems to know so little: It's just harder and slower to make progress in some fields. But just because you can heal a heart attach with a spell doesn't mean that nobody will want to know what a heart looks like.
I think most of Thedas's mindset is too control magic, and to control something you have to know how it works and put effort and research into it,
and I don't doubt that one day someone in Thedas will watch the rain fall and wonder how that happens. I just think (from what I've seen) that so much of the resources and talents Thedas has now goes into unlocking the secrets of magic, not discovering the world of science. I also think having a luxury like magical healing will definitely keep (at least for a time) people from dissecting and inspecting a heart. I can go to a grocery store and buy something to cook in the microwave at home. I have absolutely no desire to learn how to kill an animal and butcher it for food. There are some people that are still interested in learning, but not as near as many if there weren't any grocery stores and microwaves.
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Checked out the article.
"Dragon Age: Magekiller will begin in the capitol city of Tevinter, just before the events of Dragon Age: Inquisition."
Interesting .....
This seems to be an introduction to the next game, as it is being alluded to be set in Tevinter.
I'm definitely going to read this 
thanks!
top (because you guys were talking about Solas with hair XD):
I personally suspect that a large reason for the stereotype is that "bad boy characters" were better-written overall. In the past, it seemed that writers thought that the only characteristic a "nice guy" character needed was to be nice, which meant there wasn't much else to him. The "bad boy characters" tended to have confidence, charm, wit, depth, complexity, be enjoyable to watch, have more interesting personal stories, etc.
I personally really, really, really don't like "bad boy" characters, but before I discovered Alistair in DAO and Cullen and Solas in DAI, I always went for the "bad boy" love interest character in video games because they had more depth, complexity, and characteristics besides just being "nice," "polite," "noble," or "selfless."
Lol. Solas doesn't fall under bad boy character yet?
Y'know, with the revelations from Inquisition (especially Trespasser) in mind, does anyone else wonder if;
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I dunno, how would this sort of retcon sit with everyone; does he come across as just an unwitting pawn or even more of a tragic anti-villain?
(Reposting this from something I wrote over on the Anders' thread, since I figured more people might see it here... there's less tumbleweed)
Uh, I hope not (and I doubt it) I want to hate Anders in peace, without thinking he was some hapless victim of a larger plot. What benefit would Solas have gotten out of blowing up the Chantry? Plus, acts of terrorism seem very unSolas-y.
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Destroying the world isn't an act of terrorism.
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Aw! Eivuwan he's just holding it all in! He's angry at himself for all the pain he's caused you! He can't let himself falter, or it might break him enough to tell you everything!
I think most of Thedas's mindset is too control magic, and to control something you have to know how it works and put effort and research into it,
and I don't doubt that one day someone in Thedas will watch the rain fall and wonder how that happens. I just think (from what I've seen) that so much of the resources and talents Thedas has now goes into unlocking the secrets of magic, not discovering the world of science. I also think having a luxury like magical healing will definitely keep (at least for a time) people from dissecting and inspecting a heart. I can go to a grocery store and buy something to cook in the microwave at home. I have absolutely no desire to learn how to kill an animal and butcher it for food. There are some people that are still interested in learning, but not as near as many if there weren't any grocery stores and microwaves.
I think there's a lot more non-magical science research going on that is not emphasized in the game.
We get to hear about the secrets of magic because of the fantasy genre.
But they are doing a lot more than that:
1) Take weaponry. From swords to trebuchets, they want to be making better weapons, and to do that they will need to know physics. To know how to handle silverite vs dawnstone, they will need to know chemistry.
2) You need to build bridges, fortresses and buildings. That requires physics.
3) Creature research table? Biology.
4) There are people actively studying dragon nesting/hunting patterns. So again, biology.
So there are already plenty of active non-magical sceintific activity and there is the incentive to pursue these fields woven in this world.
Uh, I hope not (and I doubt it) I want to hate Anders in peace, without thinking he was some hapless victim of a larger plot. What benefit would Solas have gotten out of blowing up the Chantry? Plus, acts of terrorism seem very unSolas-y.
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Destroying the world isn't an act of terrorism.
I also doubt the whole Anders connection. What would be really interesting though is if they brought him back to help fight the impending doomsday elf apocalypse. I really don't like him as a character, but having him as a good guy would add some really nice depth to him. I'll still hate him though, but ya know, gotta love those deep character dichotomies.
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Honestly, I hate/love Solas. He's always been cold, though I've dealt with that since that is basically how I am in real life. I even talk similarly to him, so it's kind of creepy. Anyways, I loved that scene, because I think we really got a good look into Solas's intentions and his slow descent into becoming Fen'Harel once again. That's why I think he was more cold than before, because he's trying to distance himself from Lavellan as well as "harden his heart" for what he must do (destroy the world).
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Funny enough, I had pretty much the opposite reaction to how he talked to Lavellan! To me, it sounded like he was trying so hard to keep his cool. Trying desperately to steel himself to what he has to do in the face of her. Then again, I was really influenced by his facial expressions during that scene too which conveyed all of that to me. I really enjoyed it and thought it was a powerful next (and hopefully not final) step to their relationship!
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it too, but that's understandable! It was a lot of really bad vibes to take in in one scene.
If it helps, Patrick Weekes confirmed on Twitter that Solas looks particularly angry during the romanced Lavellan interaction because he's hurting.
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My initial reaction was also like 'wow, dude is cold as ice.' But the longer I played through the scene the more apparent it became that his stand-offish demeanour is very much a front, and not a very well maintained one at that.
If anything, it really drove home for me that he loves Lavellan far more than I'd initially assumed. He can't even trust himself with her anymore. Keeping her at arms length is the only way he can cope. It's tragic.
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