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I think a lot of people on forum are demanding two protagonist/inquisitor controlled by player in some cutscene and devs have shown interest in multi-protagonist before. I think bioware would at least take some considerations.

I'd need a plot reason for there to be two controllable characters. For example: one character is somehow controlling the other (one PC is a golem or something), or one character is imprisoned and the other is getting them out (happened in KotOR and Origins). If the mechanic of 2 PCs is not woven into the story it would be pretty bad for immersion in my opinion. Still, I'd take a part time Lavellan over no Lavellan at all. 


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Do you think the Inquisitor is going to be the next protagonist in next game?  :crying:  :crying:  :crying:  :crying:

 

I think this is the first game in the series (someone correct me if I am misremembering) where the end of the game has actually teased that the protagonist's story isn't over. As in; they're actually shown embarking on a new mission, rather than just riding off into the sunset. So I'd say it's a possibility.

 

Prior to Trespasser's release I'd have said that I didn't even particularly want to continue with the same protagonist, but now I feel like there are too many things left unfinished, and it seems like a stretch to craft another PC with the same level of investment in Solas and his plans. I mean, anyone would want to save the world, but why would anyone but Inky want to save Solas?

 

If we were to continue with the same protagonist, I think I'd be fine with it. Happy, even.


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Hello guys   :)

I just finished Trespasser DLC some days ago.. T.T Can't stop crying... 

 

I have one question and I wanted to know what you guys think >.<  

Do you think the Inquisitor is going to be the next protagonist in next game?  :crying:  :crying:  :crying:  :crying:

I would be all for that. Confronting Solas as anyone other than quizzy would be super anticlimactic and just no. Be it a romanced/friend or enemy inquisitor. But something like GTA5 or Witcher could work. Soooo long til we know  :crying: .....and what everyone else said ^^^


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When the Quizzy/Solas confrontation DOES happen in DA4 I want the chance to say,  "If you're not a god then why don't you stop acting like one?!" I think that might get him to re-assess his plans since he despises the false gods so. 

 

You know, since completely destroying modern Thedas and recreating the world of Elvhen kinda sounds like an arrogant Old Testament God type thing to do. "I'm Solas, and I know what's best for Thedas. I'm going to decide all y'all's fates for you because I can. I'm the decider!"  


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As someone who went from really liking Solas to being super pissed at him after Trespasser, I can sort of understand how your friend feels because there ARE people who seem to bend over backwards to justify his actions for the love of the character. Or at least that's what it looks like to me. Anyway, it is also possible to be a Solas fan and keep his both his flaws and good qualities in perspective. Although I am angry with the character, I am still hoping that he's redeemable.

 

I love Solas even more after trespasser. I was really surprised how well his characterization is written and expanded, it added more layer to the character. 

 

I love his character because he is a very well written one, but not because I'm obsessed by the 'Solas is PERFECT he is never wrong' or sth sth similar. I would hate him, of course, maybe from story/inquisitor perspectives when I put myself into the game, however, as a player, he just...well, blew my mind.


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As someone who went from really liking Solas to being super pissed at him after Trespasser, I can sort of understand how your friend feels because there ARE people who seem to bend over backwards to justify his actions for the love of the character. Or at least that's what it looks like to me. Anyway, it is also possible to be a Solas fan and keep his both his flaws and good qualities in perspective. Although I am angry with the character, I am still hoping that he's redeemable.

I honestly haven't seen anyone justifying his (potential) actions - there seems to be pretty universal loathing for his plans if he goes through with them.  I have seen people being understanding of his reasons and why he is so conflicted, though, which I think is fair enough. Understanding without agreement is definitely possible :)


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4.  Cue Inquisitor, who effs things up not only for Corypheus, but also for Solas himself.

5.  Begin events of Inquisition.

 

I just read this as "cute Inquisitor", which can fill in for a Lavellan in that sentence, I guess. :P

 

I'm very much not awake yet. I had DA-related dreams again.
 


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Art post again. ;)

 

Solas and Lavellan with their baby. Starring Varric. :lol:

 

Another sexy Solavellan artwork by nanananananablr. (NSFW)

 

Fen'Harel.

 

A lovely watercolor of Solas relaxing under a tree.

 

Trespasser Art: "I will never forget you." (Beautiful artwork. :crying: )

 

Trespasser Art: Lavellan (who looks a bit... crazy?) and Solas. (NSFW-ish maybe, because her clothes are unbuttoned.)

 

Trespasser Art: "Vhenan." (Solas gif)


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I think this is the first game in the series (someone correct me if I am misremembering) where the end of the game has actually teased that the protagonist's story isn't over. As in; they're actually shown embarking on a new mission, rather than just riding off into the sunset. So I'd say it's a possibility.

 

Prior to Trespasser's release I'd have said that I didn't even particularly want to continue with the same protagonist, but now I feel like there are too many things left unfinished, and it seems like a stretch to craft another PC with the same level of investment in Solas and his plans. I mean, anyone would want to save the world, but why would anyone but Inky want to save Solas?

 

If we were to continue with the same protagonist, I think I'd be fine with it. Happy, even.

 

I can't believe my likes still hasn't fully replenished yet. Have a <3 instead. :)

 

I love Solas even more after trespasser. I was really surprised how well his characterization is written and expanded, it added more layer to the character. 

 

I love his character because he is a very well written one, but not because I'm obsessed by the 'Solas is PERFECT he is never wrong' or sth sth similar. I would hate him, of course, maybe from story/inquisitor perspectives when I put myself into the game, however, as a player, he just...well, blew my mind.

 

Giving you a <3 as well. Your reaction is basically my reaction to Solas after Trespasser. Except my reaction also had a bit of sobbing to it. :P



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Your character's relationship with Solas is like my Lavellan's with Sera.  Except you get pain and betrayal and I get cookies and rooftop chats.
 

 

Yeah, my feelings on Solas are complicated.

 

On the one hand, I had gotten so used to the loathing between him and my Inquisitor that I figured he'd be one of those characters that I just fundamentally disagree with and that's that. But then all the lightning quick changes happened, and the fact that he opened up to the Inquisitor right at the end and they seemed to finally respect and like each other... it was pretty cool.   I really like that dynamic between them, and it's definitely my canon relationship with Solas.  Hate and distrust turning into camaraderie. The speed at which the change happened also makes it funny too.

 

And like I said, it made Trespasser worse. In a good way.  When Solas revealed his plan, it felt more personal, and I RP'd my Inquisitor as just losing it.  Shock turned to anger. Their delicate tie of newly formed friendship was ripping apart.   

 

I ended up choosing the 'I will stop you' option because it felt right. My Inquisitor was so pissed off at that moment. 

 

So yeah, Solas is unique in that I both like him and hate him at the same time. The like and dislike don't cancel out into indifference. 

 

 

 

 

BTW, I have yet to play as a Lavellan. I have been thinking about it, and I think that making all my canon decisions with her would be interesting.  Since I was able to trigger the 'All new faded for her' at the last second with my rogue guy, I should theoretically be able to do the same with a femLavellan, which could make a romance possible if I had flirted with him once or twice.....    She and Solas would absolutely hate each other for 99% of the game, then they suddenly realize they have feelings for each other, they shove their faces into each other and furiously make out.  He dumps her one second later, and then she jumps into Trespasser where he drops his final bomb on her.... 

 

I am tempted. 


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Honestly, I don't think he can be redeemed and still be allowed to live. Good intentions or not, he has made too many mistakes, which resulted in the deaths of too many people. I am thinking that if redeemed, he will end up sacrificing his life to stop something.



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I honestly haven't seen anyone justifying his (potential) actions - there seems to be pretty universal loathing for his plans if he goes through with them.  I have seen people being understanding of his reasons and why he is so conflicted, though, which I think is fair enough. Understanding without agreement is definitely possible :)

This !!!

We all understand his point of view , this dont mean we agree with his plan .

As i said early im so pissed right now at modern Thedas that I as a player would like to see his plan done and play in the new world he create ( tho to have a game in it it mean its gonna be as **** as now) , . But im not ready to see all my fav. chars die . I will really love to see this new world if it dont really mean destruction of the world . He said burn in chaos , if this is the worst i can deal with it, come on i kill an archdemon , killed a Crazy b*tch with red lyrium sword, killed a would be God twice , and stop a qunari invasion , i can fix everything Solas can send my way . But imagine a world where everyone have magic , where mages dont need to fear demons and elves are not 2nd hand people ....

My Lavellan on other hand worked too hard to save the world to let it get destroyed now, she will try her best to stop Solas, tho if she have to kill him to do it, im not sure she can.


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Art post again. ;)

 

Solas and Lavellan with their baby. Starring Varric. :lol:

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this Finnish artist is amazing <3 I loved it when she made pictures of Thane as well x3



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As someone who went from really liking Solas to being super pissed at him after Trespasser, I can sort of understand how your friend feels because there ARE people who seem to bend over backwards to justify his actions for the love of the character. Or at least that's what it looks like to me. Anyway, it is also possible to be a Solas fan and keep his both his flaws and good qualities in perspective. Although I am angry with the character, I am still hoping that he's redeemable.

 

It is possible to empathise with and understand a characters plans from that characters perspective, without agreeing with them.

 

I completely understand why Solas feels he needs to carry out his plans, even though it hurts him to do so. I understand how utterly wrong modern Thedas must feel for him. It's a mistake he feels he must undo. To do nothing would be, from his perspective, a betrayal of the world as he feels it should be.

 

That does not mean I agree with his plan. But I understand it. And I also think there's more at stake here than we've been shown as yet.

 

Imagine if you would, that instead of the time magic during the 'In Hushed Whispers' quest casting your inquisitor forward one year, it cast her forward a decade. The world is broken, demons are everywhere, everything is all wrong. Now imagine that instead of being able to fix it instantly, your Inquisitor had to spend a year there, gathering the resources she needs to turn back time. During that time, she meets children born after the breach. She meets resistance fighters who, for all the hardship they've endured, have formed bonds of friendship and love that they never would have had if not for the chaos. None of these people would want those things erased. In the case of the children, none of them will even exist if your Inquisitor turns back time. She's erasing them. All because she sees the world they were born into as broken.

 

Is it broken? Well, yes. The Inquisitor knows that, because she lived in the world before it broke. But does that mean anything to the children she's going to remove from existence? Does this broken world not have the right to fight and mend itself on it's own terms? We've already made that choice for it once. We chose to erase it. Who knows what it could have become, had we chosen instead to stay and help fight.

 

Returning to Solas; is modern Thedas 'broken' in the same way that the breach future was? Solas certainly seems to think so. And how can we say otherwise? We have no point of reference, nothing to compare it to. We weren't there in Arlathan. We have no idea what was lost. Solas sees modern Thedas in the same way our Inquisitor saw the alternate future. Broken. She made her decision, and that world ceased to be. Now Solas has made his.

 

'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.'


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I'm horribly torn. On the one hand, I want to play in a post veil world. I think it would really shake up the setting, and open up the opportunity for so many different types of adventures. Otherwise I think DA runs the risk of retreading old ground - Mage/Templar conflicts, darkspawn and blights, civil wars/ invasions here and there.

Which is fine, except that things end up largely the same - with the mages back in circles, with people continuing to fundamentally misunderstand spirits and binding them etc, with elves as perpetual victims, and with all the same institutions propped up generation after generation. Removing the veil forces the entire world to change, and to confront issues that right now can be conveniently packed away the majority of the time, and just dealt with in a temporary way whenever things spill over. It seems that whatever change happens (better situation for elves, chantry reforms, better lives for mages outside of tevinter, slave uprisings within) is pretty fleeting. Removing the veil changes the game board permanently in very interesting ways.

On the other hand, I reaaaalllly don't want Solas to be the one that does it, since if it's as destructive as he thinks it will be, there's basically very little/no chance of redemption for him, certainly not without him dying, and I desperately want the chance of a different outcome, frankly even if I have to meta game the crap out of DA4. And DAI. And Trespasser.

Especially if the 'elves as blood magic sacrifice' thing is true
(and it is pretty plausible). You don't get 'redeemed' from an act that horrible. You get murder-knifed. The only thing that makes me question this, is this: we know that the anchor was capable of getting a person into the Fade. So why didn't Solas just use it to do that at the end of Trespasser, even at the cost of the Inquisitor's life? Or take us hostage so he could do it at his own time? Why destroy it instead and then go off and do something far far worse to get the same result? I find it hard to believe that Solas, a frillion times more powerful now than when we first met him, can't stabilise the mark for as long as it would take him to use it to access the Fade. Though I freely admit I could be missing something.

I absolutely agree about the veil coming down being the most interesting way the franchise can go and I absolutely want it to happen.  I also share your view on not wanting it to be Solas who does it though.  What I think would be interesting and actually quite possible, is that ultimately Solas is a bit of a red herring.  I don't doubt that his currently stated plans are genuine, but I would not be surprised if depending on circumstances, he can have some kind of change of heart or that some better option can present itself which allows some room for a redemption arc.  However, I think there will be another player, possibly Morrigan, but much more likely the trapped Evanuris that have been working behind the scenes, who drop the veil regardless of Solas actions.  I don't think it will be as catastrophic for the people of Thedas as Solas currently predicts.  Perhaps himself and Morrigan can fight the chaos to mitigate the damage and enable the inevitable confrontation with the Evanuris.  I can't imagine they're not going to be a major antagonist at some point.  

 

Hello guys   :)

I just finished Trespasser DLC some days ago.. T.T Can't stop crying... 

 

I have one question and I wanted to know what you guys think >.<  

Do you think the Inquisitor is going to be the next protagonist in next game?  :crying:  :crying:  :crying:  :crying:

As other have said,  there is much more reason to go that way than for other DA protagonists but I think a dual protagonist type thing is more likely.  It would be really rubbish to have to deal with Solas with a new protag and I would also hate to be a spectator in any convo with my Lavellan and Solas.

 

One of my friends was extremely uncomfortable about the fact that I still love solas character after trespasser. Genocide and so and so, she has become a Solas hater, and a Solas fan hater. She said she doesn't understand why people can still fall in love with psychopath who actions clearly cannot be justified. 

 

Some people just ridiculously don't understand that being a fan of certain character doesn't mean you would agree blindly to all his actions and thoughts. 

 

Just whining though, Sorry for any interruption :lol:

I am surprised how touchy some people are about people liking his character.  He's clearly not a psychopath.  I don't approve of his goal at all but I can empathize with his own position.  


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Honestly, I don't think he can be redeemed and still be allowed to live. Good intentions or not, he has made too many mistakes, which resulted in the deaths of too many people. I am thinking that if redeemed, he will end up sacrificing his life to stop something.

I disagree with this. If he goes through with his current plan and loads of people die and it turns out there was a better option, then sure, I don't see a way back from that either.

 

But the creation of the veil was entirely different. The Evanuris were planning something that was worse for the world. As much as the veil solution sucked (and he couldn't have known how much it sucked at the time anyway, hindsight is 20/20), it was either the best or the only solution available to him, particularly after Mythal 'died' (which probably meant that he no longer had enough power to kill the Evanuris outright, so the best he could do was lock them away).

 

It's a really crappy decision to end up on the shoulders of one guy who was just trying to help ordinary Elves - and whatever he did, would have been the wrong thing. A classic lose/lose decision. I really don't think he deserves to die for that, it would be sending a really dodgy message in my view - basically that doing absolutely nothing as the world falls apart around you is better than doing something, even if that something isn't ideal. 

 

@wildannie - yes, agreed! There are definitely players we don't know about yet, and I also believe that Solas will have a change of heart :) Team Optimism and all that! x


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It appears the great Llama has converted to Solavellan Abyss !

 

 

FluffyNinjaLlama's comment -

 

It just goes to show you how talented Patrick Weekes really is. Its not everyday you find someone who can draw fangirls away from Cully Wully by the power of writing.

 

literally went "muwahahahaha" after reading the quotes.

 

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Am I evil? Why am I enjoying this? What is wrong with me??



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I disagree with this. If he goes through with his current plan and loads of people die and it turns out there was a better option, then sure, I don't see a way back from that either.

 

But the creation of the veil was entirely different. The Evanuris were planning something that was worse for the world. As much as the veil solution sucked (and he couldn't have known how much it sucked at the time anyway, hindsight is 20/20), it was either the best or the only solution available to him, particularly after Mythal 'died' (which probably meant that he no longer had enough power to kill the Evanuris outright, so the best he could do was lock them away).

 

It's a really crappy decision to end up on the shoulders of one guy who was just trying to help ordinary Elves - and whatever he did, would have been the wrong thing. A classic lose/lose decision. I really don't think he deserves to die for that, it would be sending a really dodgy message in my view - basically that doing absolutely nothing as the world falls apart around you is better than doing something, even if that something isn't ideal. 

 

@wildannie - yes, agreed! There are definitely players we don't know about yet, and I also believe that Solas will have a change of heart :) Team Optimism and all that! x

 

Well, he already started implementing his tear down the veil plan with Corypheus. It didn't go as expected, but he already got his hands dirty because a lot of people died from that.



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I feed off drama and Solas hasn't let me down yet. All I ever want out of a romance is for it to tell me a good story. For a lot of Inquisition romances? The book is open and shut. Some got an epilogue in Trespasser. Some hint at a bit of headcanon towards the end.

 

Solas's story isn't over yet. In fact, it ramped up. As long Solas's characterization isn't trashed in the process, and given Trespasser I don't think it will, I can't see how I couldn't be intrigued where this whole story is going. 

 

Lately bioware fandom has had this sort of mob mentality happen where any character that has something 'problematic' about them must either be: a. purged away by blaming the writer, or b. reviled and any fans of said character must be problematic themselves. I don't think there's anyone saying genocide is right, even if they wanted an option for their Lavellan to join in on the elfpocalypse. People just want to be told a good story, and not everyone needs a character that's only going to give out hugs. 

 

Bioware games would be extremely boring if they were populated by 'yes' men. Having a sympathetic villain isn't tricking you. Sometimes you love bad people. 

 

Not that you can't hate the character. I think its pretty clear bioware loves if people hate characters too- so long as its for the right reasons. Hating Solas because he's an bastard who is considering an elfpocalypse= right reason. Hating Anders because he flirted with your male character once= wrong reason. 

 

I don't know where I'm going with this, I just work up. TLDR; the ride never ends. 


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It is possible to empathise with and understand a characters plans from that characters perspective, without agreeing with them.

 

I completely understand why Solas feels he needs to carry out his plans, even though it hurts him to do so. I understand how utterly wrong modern Thedas must feel for him. It's a mistake he feels he must undo. To do nothing would be, from his perspective, a betrayal of the world as he feels it should be.

 

That does not mean I agree with his plan. But I understand it. And I also think there's more at stake here than we've been shown as yet.

 

Imagine if you would, that instead of the time magic during the 'In Hushed Whispers' quest casting your inquisitor forward one year, it cast her forward a decade. The world is broken, demons are everywhere, everything is all wrong. Now imagine that instead of being able to fix it instantly, your Inquisitor had to spend a year there, gathering the resources she needs to turn back time. During that time, she meets children born after the breach. She meets resistance fighters who, for all the hardship they've endured, have formed bonds of friendship and love that they never would have had if not for the chaos. None of these people would want those things erased. In the case of the children, none of them will even exist if your Inquisitor turns back time. She's erasing them. All because she sees the world they were born into as broken.

 

Is it broken? Well, yes. The Inquisitor knows that, because she lived in the world before it broke. But does that mean anything to the children she's going to remove from existence? Does this broken world not have the right to fight and mend itself on it's own terms? We've already made that choice for it once. We chose to erase it. Who knows what it could have become, had we chosen instead to stay and help fight.

 

Returning to Solas; is modern Thedas 'broken' in the same way that the breach future was? Solas certainly seems to think so. And how can we say otherwise? We have no point of reference, nothing to compare it to. We weren't there in Arlathan. We have no idea what was lost. Solas sees modern Thedas in the same way our Inquisitor saw the alternate future. Broken. She made her decision, and that world ceased to be. Now Solas has made his.

 

'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.'

 

Well, if my Lavellan did get the option to work with freedom fighters for a year, then she may very well decide to leave things as they were and just keep fighting. Or at least she will take into account other people's thoughts and decisions. I don't think the the hush whispers quest is a good parallel to what Solas is doing. Lavellan could only act on the information she had on that quest, which was very limited. Solas, on the other hand, knows wayyyy more than she does. How should I say this. I can SEE how Solas ends up deciding on his current path, but I don't empathize with it. More than whether his decision is right or wrong, I think the part that annoys me the most is the God complex he has and his hypocrisy when it comes to his values.



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TLDR; the ride never ends. 

 

^^ I am out of likes, but everything you said is  <3  <3  <3



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I feed off drama and Solas hasn't let me down yet. All I ever want out of a romance is for it to tell me a good story. For a lot of Inquisition romances? The book is open and shut. Some got an epilogue in Trespasser. Some hint at a bit of headcanon towards the end.

 

Solas's story isn't over yet. In fact, it ramped up. As long Solas's characterization isn't trashed in the process, and given Trespasser I don't think it will, I can't see how I couldn't be intrigued where this whole story is going. 

 

Lately bioware fandom has had this sort of mob mentality happen where any character that has something 'problematic' about them must either be: a. purged away by blaming the writer, or b. reviled and any fans of said character must be problematic themselves. I don't think there's anyone saying genocide is right, even if they wanted an option for their Lavellan to join in on the elfpocalypse. People just want to be told a good story, and not everyone needs a character that's only going to give out hugs. 

 

Bioware games would be extremely boring if they were populated by 'yes' men. Having a sympathetic villain isn't tricking you. Sometimes you love bad people. 

 

Not that you can't hate the character. I think its pretty clear bioware loves if people hate characters too- so long as its for the right reasons. Hating Solas because he's an bastard who is considering an elfpocalypse= right reason. Hating Anders because he flirted with your male character once= wrong reason. 

 

I don't know where I'm going with this, I just work up. TLDR; the ride never ends. 

 

I can see that most people who sympathize with his character don't agree with genocide. However, there are always extremists and those were the people I am thinking about. I have read some of the old threads so it's not necessarily about people who have spoken here recently.



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I feed off drama and Solas hasn't let me down yet. All I ever want out of a romance is for it to tell me a good story. For a lot of Inquisition romances? The book is open and shut. Some got an epilogue in Trespasser. Some hint at a bit of headcanon towards the end.

ha!ha! Apparently I feed off drama as well. On my first playthrough I rolled a human and romanced Cullen; while his romance is sweet and very well done, it didn't have enough drama to get the feels going! My Trev found Solas fascinating and attractive, but there was no romance option, obviously.

 

After the end reveal that Solas was the dread wolf, I was all like, uh, gotta' roll an elf! Gotta' roll an elf! Drama here I come! I'd never played an elf before and was really put off by how thin she was but my elf playthrough is my fave now.


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Well, he already started implementing his tear down the veil plan with Corypheus. It didn't go as expected, but he already got his hands dirty because a lot of people died from that.

Hawke (or at least my Hawke) helped Anders gather the ingredients for the bomb that killed hundreds at the Chantry. She was also Anders' friend, accidentally enabling him throughout the game. She didn 't intend what happened to happen, but her hands still got bloody. I wouldn't say that Hawke deserved death even though she bore some indirect responsibility. People make decisions that don't turn out how they expect and that result in awful, awful things.

 

Personally, I think that for what he's done so far, it's possible for Solas to atone by living and helping to protect this world that he inadvertently created. But I also think that such atonement depends on being able to prevent him from going all the way with his 'destroy the world' plan - or preferably, Solas realises by himself that this world has something worth preserving - because that would be a tipping-point for me, anyway, between continuing to try to save him vs killing him (if that's even possible).


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The example of "In Hushed Whispers" compared to Solas would only work if instead of 10 or 20 years, you were booted forward 300 or so. The people of the old world when you made your first choice are gone. A vague memory of the past preserved by knowledge. The battle with Corypheus is over and the world has changed into something new. There's still wars and conflict, the people are different maybe. No more Dwarves or Elves but a new hybrid people created from those that survived. Perhaps they have managed to get a balance living in a world with the Fade. And then you get to live in that world, helping those people, seeing their new lives and finding out their wars and struggles.

 

Now, do you kill them all, their lives and history to hopefully bring back a world without the Veil where they might separate back into Elves and Dwarves again? It'll mean killing most of those living in the world you are in and you'll still not get back the people you knew and loved from before. What would you do? It isn't the magic reset of Lavellan either. It isn't the "push a button and reset". It's more, drop a bomb and watch everyone burn and hope those who survive can rebuild back to what use to be. Would you still do it?


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