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Ive been reading the forums for years (Mass Effect and Dragon Age) and countless people have been asking/begging for a sympathetic or romancable "bad guy". This was especially talked about with Cory. That he was just a big gross darkspawn vint that no one gave a toss about. Even outside of BioWare people want that. Witcher fans were let down by the Aen Elle because they just turned up in Wild Hunt seemingly with no motivation outside of being really tall (hot) elves. Solas is perfect. I dont agree with his plans at all, but I can see where he is coming from and sympathize. And I really want to save him. Because b****s like saving people. And because I think he deserves to be saved. Where as other people think he is disgusting and want to murderknife him. Either way, Solas is a brilliant character. And is worth talking about...thats a good thing


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Well if we are confessing things... I got this game when it was released back in November 2014. My first Inky was human mage who romanced Cullen. My second Inky was female elf who (like me) fell for Solas and now I literally can't go back. Solas made my cry when he dumped Lavellan at Crestwood and second time he made me cry in Trespasser, but then I cried for him.

 

I've said that Trespasser made me love Solas more, but I've reached a point that I don't really care about romance. I really want to see what Patrick Weekes is going to do with really complicated character and if Lavellan can join the ride I'll be overjoyed.

 

 

Solas turning Cullenites to emotianal mess since 2nd playtrough of Dragon Age:Inquisition.


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Hawke (or at least my Hawke) helped Anders gather the ingredients for the bomb that killed hundreds at the Chantry. She was also Anders' friend, accidentally enabling him throughout the game. She didn 't intend what happened to happen, but her hands still got bloody. I wouldn't say that Hawke deserved death even though she bore some indirect responsibility. People make decisions that don't turn out how they expect and that result in awful, awful things.

 

Personally, I think that for what he's done so far, it's possible for Solas to atone by living and helping to protect this world that he inadvertently created. But I also think that such atonement depends on being able to prevent him from going all the way with his 'destroy the world' plan - or preferably, Solas realises by himself that this world has something worth preserving - because that would be a tipping-point for me, anyway, between continuing to try to save him vs killing him (if that's even possible).

 

I think this is just one of those subjective things that we will have to agree to disagree on. The Hawke situation is different because Hawke didn't know what Anders was up to. Also, maybe I'm just really morbid, but for some reason I think Solas and Lavellan dying together to stop some bad thing is a very fitting ending.


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Hawke (or at least my Hawke) helped Anders gather the ingredients for the bomb that killed hundreds at the Chantry. She was also Anders' friend, accidentally enabling him throughout the game. She didn 't intend what happened to happen, but her hands still got bloody. I wouldn't say that Hawke deserved death even though she bore some indirect responsibility. People make decisions that don't turn out how they expect and that result in awful, awful things.

 

The thing is, Anders isn't just omitting or obscuring things. He's directly lying to get you to help him.  Solas omits things and obscures others, and he does direct you in ways (Skyhold, for example), but Anders is...different.

 

And my Hawke loved him, spared him, and ran off with him even though she didn't condone what he did and was hurt by being lied to.

 

Which I think came out appropriately enough in DAI with Hawke telling that she and Anders were still together but there's a lingering tension of sorts over it that doesn't go away even though they love each other and left together.

 

Anders is more complicated than a lot give the character credit for, especially over his developments and changes. I'm Anders positive and sympathetic many times over, but also critical too.

 

Solas is much more complicated. And I love him for it.



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I can see that most people who sympathize with his character don't agree with genocide. However, there are always extremists and those were the people I am thinking about. I have read some of the old threads so it's not necessarily about people who have spoken here recently.

Well i should admit there is a small part of me that agree, but its really small part . Just after playing all the games a few times , for a first time in my life i wasnt to be able to make the evil choices, cuz part of me think modern Thedas is like a cancer . But as i whole i do not agree with mass genocide , and we dont really know if this gonna happen, thats speculations . Even Solas aint sure what gonna happen

 

Hawke (or at least my Hawke) helped Anders gather the ingredients for the bomb that killed hundreds at the Chantry. She was also Anders' friend, accidentally enabling him throughout the game. She didn 't intend what happened to happen, but her hands still got bloody. I wouldn't say that Hawke deserved death even though she bore some indirect responsibility. People make decisions that don't turn out how they expect and that result in awful, awful things.

 

Personally, I think that for what he's done so far, it's possible for Solas to atone by living and helping to protect this world that he inadvertently created. But I also think that such atonement depends on being able to prevent him from going all the way with his 'destroy the world' plan - or preferably, Solas realises by himself that this world has something worth preserving - because that would be a tipping-point for me, anyway, between continuing to try to save him vs killing him (if that's even possible).

Mine even let him live. And she even agree the rebellion was necessary .... She regret that so many ppl had to die, but she thinks that things have to change



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Well i should admit there is a small part of me that agree, but its really small part . Just after playing all the games a few times , for a first time in my life i wasnt to be able to make the evil choices, cuz part of me think modern Thedas is like a cancer . But as i whole i do not agree with mass genocide , and we dont really know if this gonna happen, thats speculations . Even Solas aint sure what gonna happen

 

Mine even let him live. And she even agree the rebellion was necessary .... She regret that so many ppl had to die, but she thinks that things have to change

 

I can definitely see that. I mean there are times when I think the real world is **** and needs to be remade from the ground up. There is a difference between thinking about that as a fleeing/angry thought and actually carrying out complex plans to make it happen which is what Solas is doing.



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The example of "In Hushed Whispers" compared to Solas would only work if instead of 10 or 20 years, you were booted forward 300 or so. The people of the old world when you made your first choice are gone. A vague memory of the past preserved by knowledge. The battle with Corypheus is over and the world has changed into something new. There's still wars and conflict, the people are different maybe. No more Dwarves or Elves but a new hybrid people created from those that survived. Perhaps they have managed to get a balance living in a world with the Fade. And then you get to live in that world, helping those people, seeing their new lives and finding out their wars and struggles.

 

Now, do you kill them all, their lives and history to hopefully bring back a world without the Veil where they might separate back into Elves and Dwarves again? It'll mean killing most of those living in the world you are in and you'll still not get back the people you knew and loved from before. What would you do? It isn't the magic reset of Lavellan either. It isn't the "push a button and reset". It's more, drop a bomb and watch everyone burn and hope those who survive can rebuild back to what use to be. Would you still do it?

It's not quite so sanitary as 'a new hybrid race' living in a largely okay world with a few problems though, at least not from Solas's pov. Solas sees a broken world. A world where the elves that remain are either in servitude to the ruling race, or forced to live away from people altogether to avoid being wiped out. They live short, difficult lives, completely cut off from the magic that once sustained them. Dwarves have likewise been cut off, to the extent that they now make a living mining the lifeblood of the Earth (Titans) itself because there is no recollection of those Titans existing. Mages either lord it over non-magicals (Tevinter) or are treated like dangerous criminals (basically everywhere else). His beloved spirits are pulled through the veil by those wanting to bind them/use them for their own power, and corrupted into demons. On top of all that, the whole land is Blighted, with Darkspawn spilling out more and more from underground as they push the dwarves back. What happens after the last Archdemon is killed and the Dwarves are no longer numerous enough to keep the darkspawn at bay? Endless Blight is a real possibility, unless the darkspawn are just going to lie down and die en masse.

 

And it's all (or a lot of it) his responsibility. He didn't mean for any of it to happen, but it happened anyway. And he's only been in this world for about five years, which to someone as long-lived as he is, must seem like the blink of an eye.

 

His solution isn't a good one.  But I totally understand why he thinks it's what he has to do. And in that exact situation, I doubt I'd go through with it, but I can't promise I wouldn't consider it.

 

@Cee Sure, I have a Hawke who ran off with Anders too. And yeah agreed, Solas is so much more complex and marvellous. But my Hawke who loves him is still pretty hacked off that he had her collect bat guano and distract Elthina for him, while he knew what he was doing and she didn't. He made her an accomplice, something that, to be fair, Solas refuses to do with Lavellan   :(

 

@Eivuwan Hah, agree to disagree :) Have a 'like' x

 

 

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Catching up!

About solas choosing ancient ones/mythal over Lavellan. Hate to sound creepy but a little reason might be that to solas Lavellan will be dead soon anyway and we all know his fear is to die alone. Shes just mortal and he must be terribly lonely being one of the last of his kind. Selfish but...also imagine waking up in a world with no internet or netflix but 100000000 × worse, with wars and humans being crushed and enslaved by alien overlords. Ye GODS. I would sort of want to burn that world to. Hes still an idiot and I really hope there is a way that he wont have to sacrifice his people to be with lavellan that also doesnt involve pulling the reaper switch

I don't think that's a very applicable metaphor. There's wars going on, yes but there's also peace, and love, and happiness to be found. It's like you woke up, said this world sucks, then you met an slightly devolved human and fell in love with them, and you became friends with some of those aliens. You saw the beauty and joy in that world and were on the pinnacle of a different decision but then decided "Uhhhhh, but my world was just way better and the regular humans were just way better and we had internet and cellphones.... guess I must destroy this one and bring back the old one!"

 

That's the problem with having a romance that was added at the very last moment!

 

And why I get really annoyed when I hear people say that non-romanced/m!Lavellan should get the vallaslin scene, or even (and this one is REALLY petty of me, I'm aware) that the friendship meant just as much to him as the romance because no.  We get so little in this romance.  Let us have our tiny things, please.

 

(and I'm using the tarot cards as evidence that the friendship - while important - was not as important as the romance.  Only Solavellans get the fluffy wolf card).

Definitely, that Cresswood scene was horrible special to me. They did a good job for him being last minute anyway, but I do wonder why Cullen (who was also last minute) had sooo many more scenes.

 

Do you mind if I use that for the Dread Wolf Pirate Mage Bad Boy!Solas/Halla Princess!Lavellan friendfic I'm writing as Cassandra?
 

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Yes you can use it! I'd love to read it when you're done! 

 

The more i play the 3 games the more I ( as a player) an willing to let Solas burn Thedas .

I want to level Orlairs with the ground, and put all **** templars in circles guarded by mages.

I guess my Warden is the lucky one , cuz she didnt really saw the ugly part of Thedas this much, and she didnt had time to get into politics till the end . Oh no i dont say it was easy, her family was killed, she still have nightmares cuz of the Fereldian Circle, and im not sure she want to see dwarf noble again in her life, and still she's she lucky one even with the archdeamon  .

My Hawke - she got dragged in every **** conflict in this city , made to dance btw the tempars and the mages and the Qunari , by the end of the game when anders go BOOM , she just wanted to start hitting him on the head yelling - WHY DIDNT YOU TOLD ME? WHY ONLY THE CHANTRY ? By the end of the game my Hawke was sick of everything , she was sick of how elfs was treated, she was sick of the templars , she was sick of the nobles, she was even sick of the Maker, so yeah.... in the end she had only 1 city to care about ...

My Lavellan got the short straw , She got to travel all over Thedas and see all the **** going on first handed , both as mages and as elf , but shes also the only one of my chars that feel responsible for like everyone one else...I think for her sake i need to re-thing her priorities , or she in for a long painful ride ....

Personally, I can't abide the murder of innocent people, no matter the apparent rewards. Even when I play more roguish characters they're only deviant in the way Sera is. There is always good to be found in the toughest situations. Kind templars, humans campaigning for elven rights, people who want the world to be better, but see that you can't make things better with innocent blood on your hands.

 

I won't say I like Solas less, but I have far less respect for him now. I imagine all my Quizzies, romanced or not, being utterly devastated that someone they trusted and respected would stand in front of them and say "this world isn't right and I can only fix it through destruction".

 

Also, the allusions to his choice being the same as the Quizzie's in Redcliffe, it is absolutely not the same. We get ported to a future world where the sky is torn open, demon armies and jebus only knows what ravage the lands, killing thousands. Cities burn. Nations fall. Those lives born would have probably have been conceived before Corypheus's rule and will most likely be snuffed out before their first birthday.People are terrified, spirits are warped and twisted. It's hell, in short. Our Quizzy is given the chance to go back to exactly what it was before. Everything is reset to that past point in time. The year of terror doesn't happen. It never existed save in Dorian and the Quizzies memories.

 

Solas wants to tear down the Veil but he's not reversing time. He's not just resetting the world to exactly as it was before he tore it down. He's not bringing back those lives that were lost after he first created the Veil. He's bringing down the Veil and the people in the current world will just have to suffer through it's destruction, their destruction, until only those ancient elves who still remain and the few living that can adapt are left. It's almost mass extinction, like the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs except it's not a natural disaster but a chosen one. Like a nuclear bomb. Worse, he's lived and walked among them. he's seen the best and the worst and the life and he's decided that all that history, all their struggles and triumphs just aren't good enough to exist. 

 

I love Solas's character but I absolutely loath his plan. I hope we can redeem him, I really, really do. I just can't understand the people that would want to help him though. You spent all that time in game with Cassandra and her faith and passion, with Varric and his gentle humour and his hopes for Kirkwall, with Dorian and his fervent goal to make Magisterium and his homeland better, and you would happily watch them and their lives and dreams and goals burn and die along with everything else in the hopes that the Ancient Elves come along and what? Have a better life? That their happiness and hopes and dreams are intrinsically worth more than your friends and all the other people of Thedas? Just the thought makes my skin crawl a bit.

This is really well put, you've wrapped up my thoughts completely.

 

Still catching up to the thread so I don't know if someone's already linked you the fanart, but are you referring to this one?  :lol:

 

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Source: http://twilisart.tum...e-avatar-parody

 

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Oh my goodness XD it looks like a bodice ripper!!

 


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I can definitely see that. I mean there are times when I think the real world is **** and needs to be remade from the ground up. There is a difference between thinking about that as a fleeing/angry thought and actually carrying out complex plans to make it happen which is what Solas is doing.

Oh i definitely dont agree as a whole , i understand him , i understand why he want to do it, i understand how he feels , and i still love him, but i do not agree. I still not that crazy :D



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Well i should admit there is a small part of me that agree, but its really small part . Just after playing all the games a few times , for a first time in my life i wasnt to be able to make the evil choices, cuz part of me think modern Thedas is like a cancer . But as i whole i do not agree with mass genocide , and we dont really know if this gonna happen, thats speculations . Even Solas aint sure what gonna happen

 

Mine even let him live. And she even agree the rebellion was necessary .... She regret that so many ppl had to die, but she thinks that things have to change

My Hawke allowed Anders to live as well. She just didn't see any value in killing him as he was a man broken by the circles and by a twisted spirit of vengeance residing in him. It felt more like shoving a knife in the back of a mentally ill patient that is not truly responsible for his actions. She wanted to find a way to separate him from the spirit. She did, however, break up with him as his mental faculties seemed to be too diminished to continue a romantic relationship with him.



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More Art

 

DA4 - Trying to stop Solas

http://majesticmurde...ellan-561417032

 

Solas and The Dread Wolf

http://mayu-photogra...harel-561408169

 

This Is Not The End - Gorgeous!!

http://didiher.devia...e-end-561376937

 

LOL- Back Off Wolf..I'm Armed!

http://1taurus1demon...K-OFF-561327601


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Imagine if in the next game we meet the rest of the Evanuris and it turns out that they are not as bad as Solas makes them out to be. That would be a real plot twist. After all, we are only getting his side of the story.


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The thing is, Anders isn't just omitting or obscuring things. He's directly lying to get you to help him.  Solas omits things and obscures others, and he does direct you in ways (Skyhold, for example), but Anders is...different.

 

And my Hawke loved him, spared him, and ran off with him even though she didn't condone what he did and was hurt by being lied to.

 

Which I think came out appropriately enough in DAI with Hawke telling that she and Anders were still together but there's a lingering tension of sorts over it that doesn't go away even though they love each other and left together.

 

Anders is more complicated than a lot give the character credit for, especially over his developments and changes. I'm Anders positive and sympathetic many times over, but also critical too.

 

Solas is much more complicated. And I love him for it.

Solas is also much more sympathetic in my opinion. 

Anyone else notice that DA boyfriends are steadily giving you up for bigger and crazier things?

Origins: Alistair breaks up with you to become king

DA2: Arsehole Anders uses you to help him blow up a Chantry full of people

Inquisition: Solas works with you until he leaves to go destroy the world

 

Also, as much as I hated that Solas broke it off with my Lavellan, it was much better than what Arsehole Anders did. I'm going to manipulate you into helping you using your love for me... but I do love you! Really!!


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Well if we are confessing things... I got this game when it was released back in November 2014. My first Inky was human mage who romanced Cullen. My second Inky was female elf who (like me) fell for Solas and now I literally can't go back. Solas made my cry when he dumped Lavellan at Crestwood and second time he made me cry in Trespasser, but then I cried for him.

 

I've said that Trespasser made me love Solas more, but I've reached a point that I don't really care about romance. I really want to see what Patrcik Weekes is going to do with really complicated character and if Lavellan can join the ride I'll be overjoyed.

 

 

Solas turning Cullenites to emotianal mess since 2nd playtrough of Dragon Age:Inquisition.

I have same feelings with you. I mean I love him and it was amazing story.. but even the friendship (I have seen those versions) are as touching for me. He is incredible as a character. It's hard to say what he feels but in the other hand you can see it from his eyes. He is complicated and mysterious. Yet he does everything to seal the breach and to help you out. It's just really intensive story with him.. and thinking about how since the 1st game came DAO 6 years ago... since then all the elvhen mythology and legends and history and the beginning of everything the lore.. the gods.. etc.. stuff like that how everything begun... just when I played that freaking trespasser and I got to know finally everything.. my head just blew up! 


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Imagine if in the next game we meet the rest of the Evanuris and it turns out that they are not as bad as Solas makes them out to be. That would be a real plot twist. After all, we are only getting his side of the story.

Maybe! Though to be fair, we did spend the first two games being told that the rest of the gods were awesome and fluffy and Fen'harel was the most evil beast to stalk the earth. It's only in Inquisition (and more specifically Trespasser) that we heard his side of the story. 

 

Though I agree, I'd like it if they weren't all bad (personally still holding out hope for June!)



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Personally, I can't abide the murder of innocent people, no matter the apparent rewards. Even when I play more roguish characters they're only deviant in the way Sera is. There is always good to be found in the toughest situations. Kind templars, humans campaigning for elven rights, people who want the world to be better, but see that you can't make things better with innocent blood on your hands.

 

Nah me either, i just replayed DA 2 2 times for 2 weeks , and it was too much i really got sick of all thats going on, even of the mages that kept proving the whole game that they are indeed irresponsible .

But i said my poor Levallan wants to help everyone , to save everyone and to make everyone happy. She believe there is a peaceful way. So as i said if i dont change her PoV a bit hes in for a painful raid from now on....

Bioware though me that sometime you must be ruthless , it just didnt work well for my gentle heart elf



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.Anyone else notice that DA boyfriends are steadily giving you up for bigger and crazier things?

Origins: Alistair breaks up with you to become king

DA2: Arsehole Anders uses you to help him blow up a Chantry full of people

Inquisition: Solas works with you until he leaves to go destroy the world

 

Well, for some of us, the Alistair romance had both drama and fluff and ended in a wedding. But it was playing a Cousland Warden, then Hawke, that made me decide to play Dalish in DAI. I was tired of 1)Humans 2) nobles.

 

And I am very glad I did.



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Solas is also much more sympathetic in my opinion. 

Anyone else notice that DA boyfriends are steadily giving you up for bigger and crazier things?

Origins: Alistair breaks up with you to become king

DA2: Arsehole Anders uses you to help him blow up a Chantry full of people

Inquisition: Solas works with you until he leaves to go destroy the world

 

Also, as much as I hated that Solas broke it off with my Lavellan, it was much better than what Arsehole Anders did. I'm going to manipulate you into helping you using your love for me... but I do love you! Really!!

Well the first time i play DA:O i got dumped in the end cuz i was elf and a mage....

The first time i play Da 2 i choose Anders

The it was Solas...

I said a lot of times - im NOT romancing anyone in Da 4, im just afraid what ill choose this time, and I for sure will stay away from apostates....



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It's not quite so sanitary as 'a new hybrid race' living in a largely okay world with a few problems though, at least not from Solas's pov. Solas sees a broken world. A world where the elves that remain are either in servitude to the ruling race, or forced to live away from people altogether to avoid being wiped out. They live short, difficult lives, completely cut off from the magic that once sustained them. Dwarves have likewise been cut off, to the extent that they now make a living mining the lifeblood of the Earth (Titans) itself because there is no recollection of those Titans existing. Mages either lord it over non-magicals (Tevinter) or are treated like dangerous criminals (basically everywhere else). His beloved spirits are pulled through the veil by those wanting to bind them/use them for their own power, and corrupted into demons. On top of all that, the whole land is Blighted, with Darkspawn spilling out more and more from underground as they push the dwarves back. What happens after the last Archdemon is killed? Endless Blight is a real possibility, unless the darkspawn are just going to lie down and die en masse.

 

 

Okay, so taking that scenario. The fact is that Solas's plan would likely destroy 90% of those people. The poorly treated Elves would die right alongside the detached Dwarves and persecuted Mages and up themselves Humans and I bet if you asked each one they'd rather live their crummy lives than have one guy decide that they aren't real and should be killed to make way for the "better" Ancient Elves and the new world. Even the ending with the darkspawn, we have no idea how the tear in the Veil will effect the Blight or darkspawn.

 

It's actually a very interesting thing. With the magic and spirits/demons unleashed by a completely collapsed Veil, how would the darkspawn and archdemons react. Would they suddenly come into their own kind of magic, blight magic. Would the Darkspawn become more sentient  with the veil pulled down? We have no idea at the moment what, if any, link there is between darkspawn, archdemons and the Fade.



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I don't think that's a very applicable metaphor. There's wars going on, yes but there's also peace, and love, and happiness to be found. It's like you woke up, said this world sucks, then you met an slightly devolved human and fell in love with them, and you became friends with some of those aliens. You saw the beauty and joy in that world and were on the pinnacle of a different decision but then decided "Uhhhhh, but my world was just way better and the regular humans were just way better and we had internet and cellphones.... guess I must destroy this one and bring back the old one!"

 

 

 

 

Yep :) . I was more going along the lines of "communication/sharing/knowing"  as in current world being cut off from the fade. I know Im not very good with metaphors lol. My point was rather going about a solas before meeting a friend inqy and the low approval meeting with Trespasser Solas suggests that inqy is the main reason he changes his views on modern people. He's really cold if he dislikes the inquisitor. He still doesnt want anyone hurt but he comes off as he couldnt really give a danm as well so unless your inqy is his love or friend I dont think he really see's any beauty in the modern world?? 



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I have  a theory that even if we're able to convince Solas to change his plans, it will be too late. Some things will be put in motion and the final action will be required, Solas might stop at this... but he's not the only one who wants the Veil gone. Someone else will tear down the Veil. My bet is on whoever drank from the Well of Sorrows.

 

There were no consequences for it yet, and we know there will be. Flemeth says that she has no orders for you...yet. It will matter a great deal in the end.


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....Though I have to admit, in my Lavellan playthrough I just can't not imagine her secretly rooting for Solas and Lavellan to end up being together.

 

Oh, do I mean secretly? I mean - completely and openly encouraging Lavellan to save Solas.

 

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Lavellan (after she explains what transpired behind closed eluvian): "....So you see Cassandra. I... I'm sorry. Aside from Solas being who he is, this new information about the Veil and stuff... it must be hard for you as well to make sense of it all."

 

Cassandra (ignores the last sentence as she bites a wet handkerchief): "This... this is... SO ROMANTIC"

 

Lavellan: " :blink: What?"

 

Cassandra: "Inquisitor! You have to save Solas!"

 

Lavellan: "I uh... I thought you'd be angry about... uh, betraying our trust and all."

Cassandra (with fire in her eyes): "Such nonsense! Can't you see what's happening, Inquisitor? The love that connects you doesn't happen every day, so don't give up on it yet! I won't! You two are destined to be together! And I shall help you fulfill your destiny! TO WORK THEN!"

 

(she stuffs confused Lavellan under her arm and goes to plan the mission codenamed "The Romance To End All Romances").

 

I agree about Cassandra sticking around.

 

As for her rooting for Solavellan... It's like headcanon for me. I can't imagine her any other way.

I like imagining the climax of the next game, something along the lines of bringing down the Veil safely, rocks formations floating mid-air, Solas and Lavellan standing on one, watching the Veil falling, some beautiful cinematic, and then they hold hands, Cassandra on the ground, watching from afar, positively ecstatic, squeeing silently while Dorian eyes her weirdly :D

 

I am still working on the how to redeem him part -cough-


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I just finished Trespasser on my Solasmancer, Aela Lavellan.

 

My reaction:

:o

:( 

:crying:

 

Anyway, the DLC and "conclusion" to the Solas romance made me think of this song, and now I have it stuck in my head.  I think I'm going to make a video with it.

Lyrics:

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I think the key to redeeming or stopping Solas is his answer to your question of why is it necessary to destroy the world in order to bring by the elves. It's more than just bringing down the veil because he told Lavellan about that without hesitation. I don't really have any idea what this missing information might be though.



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Just a thought but wouldn't newer spirits also be traumatised by the Veil being abruptly torn down, or does Solas consider them an acceptable loss too?  

 

If modern elves can't survive the worlds being re-combined then aren't Fade creatures, who frankly seem mentally fragile, be more at risk because they came into being after the Veil was created.  


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