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[_Lucinia]

I think the difficulty with Solas being the main big bad is that we've had so much revealed to us already,  I think if he was going to be the only big bad in DA4 they might not have wanted so much of his plan to be revealed at this stage.  There has to be a lot being held back or it could be a bit boring, they need to be able to surprise us!

They also wanted to make him sympathetic and "sadder" for a reason.  It could be as simple as avoiding him coming across as a mustache twirling evil guy.  Which of course I realize is a big part of it.  I over think so much stuff.  (I think we're all guilty of that though, right? )  I think there's enough here with what Solas wants to do, that if that is honestly the only thing in play, it will be a great game.  DAI and the DLC has dropped some big lore bombs that hint of crazy stuff.  They've pulled down the curtain on some things, only to reveal that there are yet more curtains. 

[NeverlandHunter]

What if she's dreaming about sexy times with Solas and he's watching?

Hehehe

 

I was just about to post this.

 

Illyria, how did you get in my head?

She only goes in to heal the hurt and fix the broken!

[S.W.]

Can't say I'm a big fan of them searching for each other in their dreams. Mainly because given how my Lavellan has developed over Trespasser - she's learnt how to be angry and blunt at opportune times and it suits her so well - the moment she so much catches a hint of Solas she'd run over to him screaming and crying and conflicted between wanting to inflict violence and wanting to hold him, and never let go, never looking back.

 

Life is too short to inhibit your passionate love for other people, she's realised. So it's not very in character for her anymore

[maia0407]

I wonder if it makes him blush...

Or, maybe he's like, "I didn't know she wanted me to do that! Why didn't she tell me? Damn, my ass looks big!"

[Jayla]

I wonder if it makes him blush...

The idea of a blushing Solas is very appealing.

[NeverlandHunter]

Can't say I'm a big fan of them searching for each other in their dreams. Mainly because given how my Lavellan has developed over Trespasser - she's learnt how to be angry and blunt at opportune times and it suits her so well - the moment she so much catches a hint of Solas she'd run over to him screaming and crying and conflicted between wanting to inflict violence and wanting to hold him, and never let go, never looking back.

 

It's not very in character for her anymore

Lol. I like the searching for each other in the Fade, but my Lavellan would probably have the same reaction!

[drosophila]

 

I think it's more a matter of connection they have. If you take Bull and Cole after Chargers were saved you can get this banter:
 

Cole: "Tama, how will I follow the Qun?" Her hands, strong but gentle, rubs the stubs where the horns will be.

Cole: "You are strong, and your mind is sharp. You will solve problems others cannot." She smiles, but sadly.

Iron Bull: Looks like my old Tamassran was wrong. Bet she's pissed one of her kids went Tal-Vashoth.

Cole: Agents with hushed tones. Eyes stinging. Forms to fill out, course corrections. Reduce risk of similar losses.

Cole: I remember the little boy, too wise, eager to help. Words break in small, secret spaces. He got away. He got away.

Iron Bull: How could you know that? You've never even met her.

Cole: Your hurt touches hers.

Iron Bull: Well, that's, uh, creepy, but... Thanks.

 

 

I think similar thing happens with Solas and Lavellan - they can't help but to get connected by the Fade in dreams just by badly wanting to be together.

 

 

I think so too. I also think that any point she can look at that sad wolf and say, "Solas, if that's you, you're being creepy and a stalker, get out of my dreams!" He probably almost wants her to, so he can let go. But instead she reaches out for him, and he quickly withdraws, afraid to get too close. 

 

This is making me sad

[wildannie]

They also wanted to make him sympathetic and "sadder" for a reason.  It could be as simple as avoiding him coming across as a mustache twirling evil guy.  Which of course I realize is a big part of it.  I over think so much stuff.  (I think we're all guilty of that though, right? )  I think there's enough here with what Solas wants to do, that if that is honestly the only thing in play, it will be a great game.  DAI and the DLC has dropped some big lore bombs that hint of crazy stuff.  They've pulled down the curtain on some things, only to reveal that there are yet more curtains. 

I do think it would make a great story, I just don't think they'd have revealed everything to us now if that was the major part of what is going to actually happen... but I'm usually wrong 

[Cee]

 

I think it's more a matter of connection they have. If you take Bull and Cole after Chargers were saved you can get this banter:
 

Cole: "Tama, how will I follow the Qun?" Her hands, strong but gentle, rubs the stubs where the horns will be.

Cole: "You are strong, and your mind is sharp. You will solve problems others cannot." She smiles, but sadly.

Iron Bull: Looks like my old Tamassran was wrong. Bet she's pissed one of her kids went Tal-Vashoth.

Cole: Agents with hushed tones. Eyes stinging. Forms to fill out, course corrections. Reduce risk of similar losses.

Cole: I remember the little boy, too wise, eager to help. Words break in small, secret spaces. He got away. He got away.

Iron Bull: How could you know that? You've never even met her.

Cole: Your hurt touches hers.

Iron Bull: Well, that's, uh, creepy, but... Thanks.

 

 

I think similar thing happens with Solas and Lavellan - they can't help but to get connected by the Fade in dreams just by badly wanting to be together.

 

 

Not even just wanting to be together, but each knows there's hurt on both sides, but also deep love and a desire to make sure they're each okay in some way. Different ways. Solas believes his plan will likely end her life and that isn't even remotely easy for him to bear. She wants to stop him or help him to see better, and to prevent him from turning into something he can't be pulled back from.

 

After the breakup, she had no idea what was going on. There was a lot of confusion. Cole's banter addresses it but even the "Why don't you ask Solas?" response you can give to Josie when she asks about the vallaslin.

 

After Trespasser, if you played it through romanced, you know he loves you and you know it hurts.

 

There are just a lot of layers in this connection on both sides, so them searching in the Fade makes sense. The loss of the Anchor likely frustrates her in this very sharply.

[TheEggCrusher]

Or, maybe he's like, "I didn't know she wanted me to do that! Why didn't she tell me? Damn, my ass looks big!"

I'm imagining the weirdest things =3=

 

 

I think it's more a matter of connection they have. If you take Bull and Cole after Chargers were saved you can get this banter:
 

Cole: "Tama, how will I follow the Qun?" Her hands, strong but gentle, rubs the stubs where the horns will be.

Cole: "You are strong, and your mind is sharp. You will solve problems others cannot." She smiles, but sadly.

Iron Bull: Looks like my old Tamassran was wrong. Bet she's pissed one of her kids went Tal-Vashoth.

Cole: Agents with hushed tones. Eyes stinging. Forms to fill out, course corrections. Reduce risk of similar losses.

Cole: I remember the little boy, too wise, eager to help. Words break in small, secret spaces. He got away. He got away.

Iron Bull: How could you know that? You've never even met her.

Cole: Your hurt touches hers.

Iron Bull: Well, that's, uh, creepy, but... Thanks.

 

 

I think similar thing happens with Solas and Lavellan - they can't help but to get connected by the Fade in dreams just by badly wanting to be together.

 

Yeah, I think so too. But Solas is a somniari, as in he has complete control over his dreams. He's purposefully stalking her basically. Not that I have anything wrong with that. It's sweet, if not really creepy. I mean, it's better than nothing, right? 

 

 

What if she's dreaming about sexy times with Solas and he's watching?

 

Uuummm, yeah. Probably. I mean her boyfriend left her and she's still crazy in love (if you chose the "ar lath ma" blah blah I'll save you options). What if he joins in sometimes ..

 

LAH LAH LAH TOO CREEPY EW NO

[_Lucinia]

I do think it would make a great story, I just don't think they'd have revealed everything to us now if that was the major part of what is going to actually happen... but I'm usually wrong 

No doubt.  It's making for some great speculation and theories.  Revealing Solas' plan might just be a hook to get people to play the next game.  I don't think they've ever ended a game on such a big cliffhanger before.  I am thinking the same as you, there's more stuff coming. 

[NeverlandHunter]

Not even just wanting to be together, but each knows there's hurt on both sides, but also deep love and a desire to make sure they're each okay in some way. Different ways. Solas believes his plan will likely end her life and that isn't even remotely easy for him to bear. She wants to stop him or help him to see better, and to prevent him from turning into something he can't be pulled back from.

 

After the breakup, she had no idea what was going on. There was a lot of confusion. Cole's banter addresses it but even the "Why don't you ask Solas?" response you can give to Josie when she asks about the vallaslin.

 

After Trespasser, if you played it through romanced, you know he loves you and you know it hurts.

 

There are just a lot of layers in this connection on both sides, so them searching in the Fade makes sense. The loss of the Anchor likely frustrates her in this very sharply.

Yeah, especially if you're not a mage Lavellan, and you are just having normal dreams.

[Illyria]

I was just about to post this.

 

Illyria, how did you get in my head?

Hehehe

 

She only goes in to heal the hurt and fix the broken!

 

I was going to make a joke about how I'm secretly creeper!Solas, but I like Neverland Hunter's version better.

[RynJ]

There is no conflict though.  In the last 2 weeks I can't recall even one time that anyone over here said anything that could be taken as bashing another character or their fans.  We make jokes about a lot of things, including Solas, and ourselves.  No one has intent to offend or harm anyone else.  Unless I missed something crazy earlier today I don't see where any of this is coming from.  The Solas thread has a reputation for being a Unicorn on the internet for a reason.  That doesn't mean we're infallible and don't have things crop up once in a while.  I have never seen an Abelas vs Solas conflict.  Not in this thread, not recently.  If there was stuff while I was on hiatus well *shrug* I guess I am wrong. 

 

Yep! People express their honest opinions about characters here and that's fine. I commented about Abelas because someone else brought him up and it wasn't particularly nice, I guess, but I just don't find him to be even an iota as interesting as Solas (naturally, since we saw him for like 5 minutes in game only). That's all I said! Nobody complained when some were going off about Anders. We can't pick and choose who we get to be honest about in this thread. 

 

I'd say we just avoid getting too far into a Solas vs. anyone debate in here. We actually did have a whole little passive aggressive spat months ago that stemmed from the amount of Abelas talk and praising in the thread and the perceived simultaneous bashing of Solas. It was a silly time that definitely doesn't need a continuation. 

[AutumnOracle]

I figure that eventually he'll snap. Like in the Crestwood breakup scene when he won't let you touch him. In the dreams if you reach out for him he disappears.

If he ever touches you it will be Fade kiss 2.0.

[Cee]

Yeah, especially if you're not a mage Lavellan, and you are just having normal dreams.

 

Yep, mine is a rogue. That adds to the frustrated feelings in this whole situation for her.

[NeverlandHunter]

I figure that eventually he'll snap. Like in the Crestwood breakup scene when he won't let you touch him. In the dreams if you reach out for him he disappears.

If he ever touches you it will be Fade kiss 2.0.

I'd take it! Just give me mooooreee!!!

 

 

Edit: TOP!! Here's the Trespasser trailer again!

This trailer got me so excited!!

 

And here is this funny!

Spoiler

http://kelgrid.tumblr.com/

 

And this one Solas and Lavellan!

Spoiler

http://purple-meow.d...ellan-509994033

[TheEggCrusher]

Yeah, especially if you're not a mage Lavellan, and you are just having normal dreams.

I never thought about that. It must suck for a non-mage!Lavellan to keep seeing Solas in her dreams, and having barely any control in what she does and maybe not fully remembering what happened when she wakes up. Makes me feel very bad for her. Solas definitely has the upper-hand in that situation. She can't seek him out but he can seek her. He can leave with her barely even protesting. Nuh uh not cool. I would be very disoriented and upset in that situation. 

[Ajna]

Oh crap, 5k pages...

 

Off you go then guys... I have nothing.

[NeverlandHunter]

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[AutumnOracle]

Yep, mine is a rogue. That adds to the frustrated feelings in this whole situation for her.

I play rogue too. I figure it's more once the path is shown it doesn't go away. In the calling novel one of the non-mages realizes he's dreaming and plays along with the dream cause it's what they want...not cause they don't realize/can't manipulate it.

[Illyria]

HAPPY 5000!

 

What we've had was real, vhenans.

[drosophila]

5000 pages! 

 

      to all of you! 

[Cee]

Oh right, we've hit 5000.