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My newest Lavellan I'm going to try to finish a Hard play through. I may tweak her chin/jawline it seems a bit wide at some angles but over all I like her. I used the fuller bun hair mod and the no vallaslin because she's not Dalish in my story. She is a mage and will most likely choose the Knight Enchanter specialty. Though I may choose Rift Mage after reading TME. I'm certain Felassan was a Rift Mage. :D

 

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What is the first thing that you think about the moment you look at your Lavellan?

 

Color harmony. Red hair, tan skin, brownish vallaslin and bright eyes. I'm a big fan of warm tones, and she's probably the 'warmest' character I've got.  

 

What stands out about her the most, in terms of appearance?

 

ICly, the color red. Her hair is bright red, and she usually wears an equally bright red cloak. She is the sort of person who wants to be noticed and to have eyes on her, so she tends to dress in a manner that would attract people to her.

 

OOCly, her eyes. They are just slightly too neon, and they look like creepy little headlights in low lit environments. 

 

If you could change one thing about her, what would it be?

 

She would wear her gold earrings! She got them off a bandit, and decided to keep them after seeing shems wear them in Orlais. 


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I know, I know.  Like I said.  Personal, irrational dislike.  I can't justify why I don't like her, I just don't  :huh:

She's a milf elf, so I love her, lol. And one that gets way too much **** thrown her way for being a poor leader. She is indeed, but at least she stepped up to the plate to help her mage bretheren. That and I'm convinced Alexis manipulated her mind magically. It certainly seemed like it was heavily hinted at.



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I'm truly excited to see Solas take the spotlight as the main antagonist in DA4.

We need more layered villains like Loghain and Meredith. This isn't to say Corypheus wasn't interesting in other ways, considering what he represents in the lore.

Still, this is a welcome change.
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Ooh. Probably has been mentioned in this thread before, but it showed up on my tumblr dash. Pretty neat retexturing of Solas for a bit more of a villainous appearance.

 

I may just be a sucker for scars though. 



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So, back to the topic where Lavellans are hanging their coats after Trespasser, just wanted to say thanks for all the replies and input. I liked it all.

 

I believe I have decided that my Lavellan just lives a pretty nomadic lifestyle now traveling all over the place to gather info on things like the Veil, Fade, Solas,etc. I mean, this could lead all over the place.

 

So then I start think of all the different places she would travel to, with Zevran of course, and I was like "You know, my Lavellan should go to the Free Marches, if nothing else to visit Varric." Then I was hit by the most an incredibly wild idea that Lavellan is invited to Wycome while in the Free Marches to accept some super late public apology for the slaughter of her clan set up by Josephine or something(details can work out later). Of course this would be an incredibly difficult thing to stomach. Probably worse than being called rabbit in the Winter Palace. I mean, sitting there having to accept a political apology from Duke Antoine of Wycome, the man who had your entire clan slaughtered.

 

Then, the most ridiculously romantic thing hit me in the head. Lavellan wakes up in the middle of the night to Zevran walking in the door...or coming through the window all dressed in his "I went and killed someone" clothes, and then he hands Lavellan the Duke's ring or something. /swoon

 

Then I realized that my Lavellan has a strange set of standards on romantic after Solas.


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I did seriously consider rolling a Trevelyan mage and conscripting the templars for precisely that reason.  Because oh the delicious poetic justice :D
 
And I do think it's important to remember that what Lavellan knows and what we know are two different things.  As a player, I know where Redcliffe goes without quizzy there to help.  But she doesn't.  She knows that the mages and templars are killing each other and innocent people indiscriminately.  She knows the Chantry is paralyzed.  And she knows she is the only one who can close the Breach, and she has no plan for Redcliffe beyond a desperate gambit.  *I* knew that going to Therinfall would trigger that choice because the game told me :)  But my Lavellan just figured it'd be easier to ask from help from a bunch of guys in armor than a magister with time magic.  She had no idea that Therinfall would also be FUBAR.
 

I wouldn't say I liked her in the books, but she was fine. Maybe it's just her VA. I found Briala's VA weirdly obnoxious too.

 

My Lavellan totally enjoyed the Templars punching that preaching Chantry sister in Orlais as well  :whistle:  if there ever was a reason to side with them! I'm a terrible human being.

 

My Lavellan never went to Redcliffe to meet the mages. I struggle to role a character who would see the weird time distortions and Tevinter presence and not get sucked in to that quest (I also love In Hushed Whispers way more than Champions of the Just so I have to steer clear of it or I'll do the damn thing  :lol: ) So I had her focus purely on getting enough reputation to get her into Therinfal Redoubt and worry about what the mages want later. One track mind Lavellan! Focus on the Templars first. Of course, she wouldn't get a chance to sort out the mages after, but she would have gone to visit if the game had allowed.

 

 

I swear this forum is being tight fisted with it's likes. I was showing some love for all the great Lavellan stories and pretty pictures, and now I've reached my quota already  :crying:

Fine. FINE. I'll go to sleep and hope I can get more in the morning. I wasn't finished liking things.



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It seems I'm out of likes, so I can't go back and like all the lovely Quizzy's everyone has made.

 

My first attempt was terrible, she was a f Trevelyan Mage and the poor girl looked like a clown because of the lighting in the CC deceived me. This was before the Black Emporium and even though I tried to get Cassandra as Divine I ended up with Vivienne :X I deleted that save long before the DLC came out. I thought I had saved a copy but didn't so I had to rush through my farthest Lavellan play-through which made the ending that much harder because I started from the Well of Sorrows and the first rejection/break-up was still very fresh. She was also my very first Solas romance. But will not be the last. My poor Lavellans are fated to court the Dread Wolf.

 

 I still have my newest Trevelyan, Mia (Amelia) that is a rouge duel dagger assassin but I can't find any screenshots of her. I guess all her footage is video. She has short dark red hair and lyrium blue eyes with purple centers the color turned out really striking in the game. I've tried to do green eyes but they tend to come out too neon green for my taste. So I alternate between bright lyrium blues and purples.



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I get the feeling this is the main reason why there is so much Solas-hate.

Guys don't like other guys with balls. Then again, a lot of women don't either, lol.


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Ooh. Probably has been mentioned in this thread before, but it showed up on my tumblr dash. Pretty neat retexturing of Solas for a bit more of a villainous appearance.
 
I may just be a sucker for scars though. 


Sith Lord Solas, away!

Then, the most ridiculously romantic thing hit me in the head. Lavellan wakes up in the middle of the night to Zevran walking in the door...or coming through the window all dressed in his "I went and killed someone" clothes, and then he hands Lavellan the Duke's ring or something. /swoon
 
Then I realized that my Lavellan has a strange set of standards on romantic after Solas.


Oh, Zev, how sweet of you to murder the Duke! *kissynoises* :P

I think Lavellan has a strange set of standards on most things after Solas. He definitely skewed my Lavellan's perception of normal.
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I must say that Solas' armor in trespasser is amazing. I guess he doesn't actually LIKE looking like a hobo. He just wanted to be inconspicuous.


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Then let's hope your average Thedosian will be totally cool with magic when Solas tears down the Veil  :unsure: Though the worldstate goes to having both the College of Enchanters and the Circle no matter what you do.

 

Well, my Lavellan didn't know that at the time.

 

Eh, I think you credit the average Thedosian as being more informed than they actually are.

 

I don't care how informed they are. Most of them choose to become Templars knowing that their primary role is to be the anti-magic police who, despite possibly having other duties and jobs, still can be called upon at any moment to hunt down, kill, imprison, and/or guard locked up mages. And most of them choose that line of work knowing what their primary function is.

 

And since Templars can only be humans, they have more options to get on in Andrastian society than mages or elves. "Hm... do I want to join the city guard, the army, the Chantry as a lay brother/sister or cleric or scholar...?"

 

Mages don't even get even that luxury. They don't get a choice in what they want to do for a living, or whether or not they want to go to the Circle. They get sought out, hunted down, and dragged to the Circle (sometimes kicking and screaming) the second their abilities are known. They get sent by the Circle by other people, with absolutely no choice or input from them, for no other reason than they have magic. (It's not even like they can choose between different places to go or jobs to have if discovered as mages. "You want to live in that fareaway island over there with the Isolationists, join the Chantry and be a traveling healer, go to the Circle to study magic in private, etc?" No, it's "You're a mage? Circle" *chuck*)

 

When mages complain about how much it sucks in the Circle, I'm like, "Yeah, you didn't get to choose whether or not you wanted to go there and then got subjected to horrific abuses by people with swords. That sucks."

 

With Templars, I personally have less sympathy. "Oh, you picked a job that you knew involved slipping a leash on people that you know hurts them, and now you've found out that you have a leash that hurts you? Fancy that."

 

I'm sorry, but I will never feel nearly as sorry for the Templars as mages. 



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Sith Lord Solas, away!


Oh, Zev, how sweet of you to murder the Duke! *kissynoises* :P

I think Lavellan has a strange set of standards on most things after Solas. He definitely skewed my Lavellan's perception of normal.

Most importantly her standards on the fine art of baked goods.


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Well, that's going to happen no matter what. My Lavellan didn't know that at the time.

 

 

I don't care how informed they are. Most of them choose to become Templars knowing that their primary role is to be the anti-magic police who, despite possibly having other duties and jobs, still can be called upon at any moment to hunt down, kill, imprison, and/or guard locked up mages. And most of them choose that line of work knowing what their primary function is.

 

And since Templars can only be humans, they have more options to get on in Andrastian society than mages or elves. "Hm... do I want to join the city guard, the army, the Chantry as a lay brother/sister or cleric or scholar...?"

 

Mages don't even get even that luxury. They don't get a choice in what they want to do for a living, or whether or not they want to go to the Circle. They get sought out, hunted down, and dragged to the Circle (sometimes kicking and screaming) the second their abilities are known. They get sent by the Circle by other people, with absolutely no choice or input from them, for no other reason than they have magic. (It's not even like they can choose between different places to go or jobs to have if discovered as mages. "You want to live in that fareaway island over there with the Isolationists, join the Chantry and be a traveling healer, go to the Circle to study magic in private, etc?" No, it's "You're a mage? Circle" *chuck*)

 

When mages complain about how much it sucks in the Circle, I'm like, "Yeah, you didn't get to choose whether or not you wanted to go there and then got subjected to horrific abuses by people with swords. That sucks."

 

With Templars, I personally have less sympathy. "Oh, you picked a job that you knew involved slipping a leash on people that you know hurts them, and now you've found out that you have a leash that hurts you? Fancy that."

 

I'm sorry, but I will never feel nearly as sorry for the Templars as mages. 

I feel sorry for them because they remind me of our police officers that go in trying to do good, only to find out they're working with a bunch of dicks who take advantage of the system, and their only choices are to go along with it and become a part of the problem, or hit the unemployment line for standing up to the douche bags. Many have lost their jobs by doing their jobs. Templars have it even harder because of all the constant stress of facing possible demonic influences and having your mind toyed with, while still trying to see the people who inadvertently cause this threat as people all the same, and at the same time recognizing that you can't drop your guard around them.

 

It's not a job for the weak minded, yet weak minded individuals keep signing up.


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Solas is terribly patronizing. I never noticed it much with people he respects, like Lavellan or Cassandra, but you just have to listen to his banters with Sera or Vivienne to know it's true.


Vivienne deserves it. As for Sera, I thought he seemed actually kind to her.

The worst he did was trying to scare her with the idea that she could be a late bloomer mage, but it didn't sound mean spirited.

Solas is a fairly reasonable person, really. The closest thing I remember to him being an actual jerk is when he calls Varric "Master Tethras" or "Child if the Stone". That kinda rubs me the wrong way.
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I'm truly excited to see Solas take the spotlight as the main antagonist in DA4.

We need more layered villains like Loghain and Meredith. This isn't to say Corypheus wasn't interesting in other ways, considering what he represents in the lore.

Still, this is a welcome change.

Yeah they've also made it a lot more personal for the players.  There's a new protagonist each game in DA so we're more than likely dealing with Solas with someone new.  But it's different going after an adversary that you spent an entire game with them as one of your companions.  I am really looking forward to how it will play out in the next game.



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I must say that Solas' armor in trespasser is amazing. I guess he doesn't actually LIKE looking like a hobo. He just wanted to be inconspicuous.

 

He doesn't look like a hobo but I'm not sure how I feel about the wolf pelts and kneefaces  :unsure:


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Vivienne deserves it. As for Sera, I thought he seemed actually kind to her.

The worst he did was trying to scare her with the idea that she could be a late bloomer mage, but it didn't sound mean spirited.

Solas is a fairly reasonable person, really. The closest thing I remember to him being an actual jerk is when he calls Varric "Master Tethras" or "Child if the Stone". That kinda rubs me the wrong way.

You can be patronizing and still be reasonable. I think most of his patronizing remarks, like the comments to Quizzy about his race, are unintentional. When he wants to be patronizing, lol, you'll know it. Just ask Iron Bull.


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Vivienne deserves it. As for Sera, I thought he seemed actually kind to her.

The worst he did was trying to scare her with the idea that she could be a late bloomer mage, but it didn't sound mean spirited.

Solas is a fairly reasonable person, really. The closest thing I remember to him being an actual jerk is when he calls Varric "Master Tethras" or "Child if the Stone". That kinda rubs me the wrong way.

I don't think him calling Varric Master Tethras was rude... it's  his actual title and Solas never sounded sarcastic when he said it.


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Yeah they've also made it a lot more personal for the players.  There's a new protagonist each game in DA so we're more than likely dealing with Solas with someone new.  But it's different going after an adversary that you spent an entire game with them as one of your companions.  I am really looking forward to how it will play out in the next game.

Would be even better if they'd let us be Quizzy again, but I don't see that happening anymore.



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Hey guys! If anyone's interested here's a video of all the dialogue options with romance Solas in Trespasser!

 

Also, does anyone know how long Solas knew that the Anchor would eventually kill you? I think someone mentioned awhile back that he'll tell a low approval Inquisitor that only he could of bore it without it killing him, but I can't find a video.

 

If he knew that the Mark was a death sentence from the beginning it makes everything he did with Lavellan all the more sad. What was else was he thinking during the Crestwood scene? I understand that he didn't want to "betray" himself by giving up everything for Lavellan, but he left her knowing she was dying, without saying anything  :mellow:.


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Adding something to ponder about to the mix... Anyone finds it interesting that the malfunctioning archivist still managed to recognize elven Quizzy as the elvhen?

 

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It even recognizes what Cole is (both spirit!Cole and human!Cole, if I remember correctly from my mage Trevelyan PT).

 

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... Yet it doesn't recognize Solas? (who we know has been actively trying to stop the Qunari from progressing by activating old defenses and so on?)

 

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I know it's been hinted even in the base game that Solas is good at masking his identity, to a point of turning near invisible or at last hard to detect, even for spirits. But I wonder if there's more to this than that? Were Evanuris or "his people" kind of a different tribe of Elvhen?


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Would be even better if they'd let us be Quizzy again, but I don't see that happening anymore.

Yep, I was always rooting for the Inquisitor to get to continue his/her journey.  I'm just hoping that they're still going to be important in the next game.  And implemented better than Hawke was.  Some folks are thinking we might get dual-protags so Inky can still get to deal with Solas.  I think it would be cool, but I don't know if BioWare would do it.  CDPR handled it well in The Witcher 3 with Ciri and Geralt.  Although Ciri wasn't exactly a protagonist.  But it was fun getting to play as her for her story segments. 


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Adding something to ponder about to the mix... Anyone finds it interesting that the malfunctioning archivist still managed to recognize elven Quizzy as the elvhen?

 

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It even recognizes what Cole is (both spirit!Cole and human!Cole, if I remember correctly from my mage Trevelyan PT).

 

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... Yet it doesn't recognize Solas? (who we know has been actively trying to stop the Qunari from progressing by activating old defenses and so on?)

 

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I know it's been hinted even in the base game that Solas is good at masking his identity, to a point of turning near invisible or at last hard to detect, even for spirits. But I wonder if there's more to this than that? Were Evanuris or "his people" kind of a different tribe of Elvhen?

 

Cole mentions that Solas has a way of talking to spirits so they listen. I assumed he just asked them to either not remember him, or not talk about it. Hard to say if its a kind of magic, or if he just has some sort of natural affinity with spirits. 



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Adding something to ponder about to the mix... Anyone finds it interesting that the malfunctioning archivist still managed to recognize elven Quizzy as the elvhen?

 

ar01_by_midnighttea7-d9ag12m.jpg

ar02_by_midnighttea7-d9ag12y.jpg

 

It even recognizes what Cole is (both spirit!Cole and human!Cole, if I remember correctly from my mage Trevelyan PT).

 

ar03_by_midnighttea7-d9ag13c.jpg

 

... Yet it doesn't recognize Solas? (who we know has been actively trying to stop the Qunari from progressing by activating old defenses and so on?)

 

ar04_by_midnighttea7-d9ag13i.jpg

 

 

I know it's been hinted even in the base game that Solas is good at masking his identity, to a point of turning near invisible or at last hard to detect, even for spirits. But I wonder if there's more to this than that? Were Evanuris or "his people" kind of a different tribe of Elvhen?

It might be something like how he can make Cole forget certain things.  Maybe he does like a spirit mind wipe on his way out to cover his tracks?