Probably, with all the nay sayers moaning about it and his abuse. Though it seemed like a fling mostly anyway.
That's not how they played it in the Trespasser DLC and in their slides. They made it sound like they were 100% committed to each other and the hardest part of working around it was a Tal-Vasoth in Tevinter but that they managed.
Serious question that if it was posed before I'm sorry.
I don't know about the rest of the people here but I really loved the Dorian/Iron Bull romance. (Since I always roll female and am not interested in Iron Bull I always want them to be together).
I don't see a way to acknowledge that in my Keep save even though my ending slides had it. If it doesn't take that into account but we get Dorian in future games I would be pretty upset. Will they add more tiles to the keep or is there another way for them to import that data. Or are we just going to pretend that it never happened
I think the Keep acknowledges it implicitly. If you didn't romance either Dorian or IB, they're automatically in a relationhsip.
The thing that bugs me the most is that gremlin vhenan and all the other gremlins are, in a way, his creations. He seems 80% responsible for the current state of the elves and the current state of the world. He recognizes that and wants to fix mistake - by killing them? Because they are not his people?
That's just incredibly insulting: I'm so sorry, tiny gremlin vhenan, my horrible mistake turned you, turned all of you into tiny gremlins. But now that it has, you are not my people anymore, you are gremlins. I will help my real people. Did I mention at first I didn't think you were real people?
Sometimes, I just want to scream at him to get his head out of his ass already 
That's not how they played it in the Trespasser DLC and in their slides. They made it sound like they were 100% committed to each other and the hardest part of working around it was a Tal-Vasoth in Tevinter but that they managed.
Really? Interesting, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at that though. I actually never had this happen in my game though, the dialogue doesn't show up in their banter :/
He's quite impatient for an immortal being, isn't he? And prideful. Things aren't as they should, so not only do they need to change RIGHT THIS MOMENT, but he's the only one able to bring about that change, screw the consequence. A bit of a martyr complex too. "I'm a monster and I'll be remembered in history as a monster who destroyed the world but although no one will thank me, things will be better. I pinky promise." *rolls eyes*
Apocalyptic Manpain
Like in my head, I just imagine him giving this speech like in Hamlet. Being over-dramatic and hamming it up with s single tear dropping from his cheek and me just being like "GOOD LORD. STOP! You're not the only that has to live in this world and suffers from it".
The thing that bugs me the most is that gremlin vhenan and all the other gremlins are, in a way, his creations. He seems 80% responsible for the current state of the elves and the current state of the world. He recognizes that and wants to fix mistake - by killing them? Because they are not his people?
That's just incredibly insulting: I'm so sorry, tiny gremlin vhenan, my horrible mistake turned you, turned all of you into tiny gremlins. But now that it has, you are not my people anymore, you are gremlins. I will help my real people. Did I mention at first I didn't think you were real people?
I think maybe he's just being grim and fatalistic, as he tends to be, and speaking metaphorically...(please don't hurt me!) 
...crawls back under her rock to hide...
The thing that bugs me the most is that gremlin vhenan and all the other gremlins are, in a way, his creations. He seems 80% responsible for the current state of the elves and the current state of the world. He recognizes that and wants to fix mistake - by killing them? Because they are not his people?
That's just incredibly insulting: I'm so sorry, tiny gremlin vhenan, my horrible mistake turned you, turned all of you into tiny gremlins. But now that it has, you are not my people anymore, you are gremlins. I will help my real people. Did I mention at first I didn't think you were real people?
That's the thing. He is pretty much the father of modern thedas. EVERYBODY - the civilizations of the humans, dwarves, elves, and qunari are all indirectly his. And like some petulant 5 year old that didn't like his lego creation, he's going to kick it all down with a big tantrum and start again.
Apocalyptic Manpain
Like in my head, I just imagine him giving this speech like in Hamlet. Being over-dramatic and hamming it up with s single tear dropping from his cheek and me just being like "GOOD LORD. STOP! You're not the only that has to live in this world and suffers from it".
PERFECT
Solas:
Lavellan:
This is so beautiful!! I really missed your pretty art.
I feel your pain...I have an XBox 360 so I can't play it either.
Thank you so much, missed being here! 
You are too kind, as always!
Also, LET ME HOOOOLLLLDD YOOOU, sister! 
I understand your pain.
I think the Keep acknowledges it implicitly. If you didn't romance either Dorian or IB, they're automatically in a relationhsip.
I hope so. The game didn't recognize it and I was super frustrated because it never triggered for me because the banter sucked.
I literally sat in the Exalted plains(where I had the most luck) for like 2 hours with them and NOTHING.
That's the thing. He is pretty much the father of modern thedas. EVERYBODY - the civilizations of the humans, dwarves, elves, and qunari are all indirectly his. And like some petulant 5 year old that didn't like his lego creation, he's going to kick it all down with a big tantrum and start again.
He needs Inquisitor to shake some sense into him!
That's the thing. He is pretty much the father of modern thedas. EVERYBODY - the civilizations of the humans, dwarves, elves, and qunari are all indirectly his. And like some petulant 5 year old that didn't like his lego creation, he's going to kick it all down with a big tantrum and start again.
I hope so. The game didn't recognize it and I was super frustrated because it never triggered for me because the banter sucked.
I literally sat in the Exalted plains(where I had the most luck) for like 2 hours with them and NOTHING.
I finally had them all unlocking one after the other while playing JoH just after the last patch dropped (just before Trespasser). I think it fixed a lot of the banter if that's anything to go by.
Really? Interesting, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at that though. I actually never had this happen in my game though, the dialogue doesn't show up in their banter :/
I tried to get it to trigger in my second cannon playthrough. I spent literally 48 trying to get it to trigger. I got one of the required options. All Dorian wanted to do was talk to Cole. Trespasser was coming out the next day and I said **** it. So I didn't get it that playthrough and was disappointed. They obviously put a lot of thought into how that would be handled. I think to make sure that it smoothed any feathers where people thought it was an abusive relationship.
They even have a line of dialogue about Dorian never bringing tissues despite his allergies and then Iron Bull gives him his tissues.
Here's the slides. http://imgur.com/a/jDea9
Thank you so much, missed being here!
Also, LET ME HOOOOLLLLDD YOOOU, sister!
this hug gif makes me giggle..I don't know why. :-P
I tried to get it to trigger in my second cannon playthrough. I spent literally 48 trying to get it to trigger. I got one of the required options. All Dorian wanted to do was talk to Cole. Trespasser was coming out the next day and I said **** it. So I didn't get it that playthrough and was disappointed. They obviously put a lot of thought into how that would be handled. I think to make sure that it smoothed any feathers where people thought it was an abusive relationship.
OK, I maybe shouldn't open this can of worms, but curiosity compels me.
Where the f*** did the ruffled feathers over Dorian and Iron Bull come from? I got hit by the banter bug, so I never got the full set of banter from them or the epilogue slides. But I listened to it on YouTube, and they seem perfectly fine and normal? 
Or as normal as a Tal-Vashoth and Tevinter mage can get.
)
Sometimes, I just want to scream at him to get his head out of his ass already
Next time my Lavellan meets him, there will be no tearful lovey-dovey reunions. She loves him, but first priority is to beat some sense into that bald head.
I think maybe he's just being grim and fatalistic, as he tends to be, speaking metaphorically...(please don't hurt me!)
...crawls back under her rock to hide...
Noo, don't go! There's still some of @Cee's special cookies left over, have some!
There's a lot we don't know, so there might well be factors that make his plan a little more sound. He might be rushing because his people are dying quicker and quicker, and his judgement is clouded by fear they'll be gone for good. He might've reached out to the Dalish, but it didn't work out. (I so, so, so want to know WTF happened with the Dalish. Hope they address that in DA4.)
That's the thing. He is pretty much the father of modern thedas. EVERYBODY - the civilizations of the humans, dwarves, elves, and qunari are all indirectly his. And like some petulant 5 year old that didn't like his lego creation, he's going to kick it all down with a big tantrum and start again.
Yep, at first I was going to write that in a sense they're all his children, but wondered if that statement was too extreme.
OK, I maybe shouldn't open this can of worms, but curiosity compels me.
Where the f*** did the ruffled feathers over Dorian and Iron Bull come from? I got hit by the banter bug, so I never got the full set of banter from them or the epilogue slides. But I listened to it on YouTube, and they seem perfectly fine and normal?
Some tumblrina's got a hold of it and said it was abusive because IB was crass with Dorian and clearly did not respect Dorian's boundaries and requests to stop and Dorian's a drunk and doesn't have any agency????
I mean I have NO idea what they were talking about because I didn't see that AT ALL. Bull is crass with EVERYBODY. But the thing he's very sensitive and very clear behind the scenes about getting permission. So it's a front. Dorian is no more a drunk than Vivienne is. He also seems with it about 99% of the time. So that one was like...kaay? Are you playing a different game?
I finished Trespasser five days ago and I'm still not over it so. Hello T_T. I need a hug
And man that plan. I was one of the people who didn't think he'd be aiming to dismantle the Veil, because look at what the Breach did to Thedas. I thought him wanting that wouldn't be in character. Turns out his character was just more ruthless than I ever thought. And I don't know. On one hand (haha) I want the Veil gone too. I want to see the Fade wash over the world, and for Thedas's current oppressive power structures to collapse. But on the other hand, I suspect doing that would make Thedas inhabitable for all modern races, even elves. The anchor was the only reason Quizzy and party were able to survive the Fade after all, and we couldn't even hold onto the anchor for longer than 3 years, give or take.
And how's he going to go about removing the Veil?
...I've thought up this horrible theory that since the anchor's no longer an option, he might go with what the magisters did: mass blood sacrifice (of mostly elven blood), only on a worldwide scale.
Somebody please tell me there's another way T_T
Heh this reminds me of the good ol' days where we were discussing this, and Solas' capacity to be ruthless. I'm not one to say I told ya so though. (Yes I am XD )
Kidding, lol. I'm glad he indeed had a ruthless side, but hope he wouldn't go quite so far, not unless maybe he was using certain people like say... Orlesians, hehehe.... for the sacrifice. Then for me, even if we lose, I win.
But the last thing I want is him going "Muahaha!" bad. Ruthless, yes, but don't turn him into a big bad, or you'll make one of the most interesting characters rather boring. Main villain is fine though.
I don't know, I thought it was an open question whether he now has the power of the anchor back.I finished Trespasser five days ago and I'm still not over it so. Hello T_T. I need a hug
And man that plan. I was one of the people who didn't think he'd be aiming to dismantle the Veil, because look at what the Breach did to Thedas. I thought him wanting that wouldn't be in character. Turns out his character was just more ruthless than I ever thought. And I don't know. On one hand (haha) I want the Veil gone too. I want to see the Fade wash over the world, and for Thedas's current oppressive power structures to collapse. But on the other hand, I suspect doing that would make Thedas inhabitable for all modern races, even elves. The anchor was the only reason Quizzy and party were able to survive the Fade after all, and we couldn't even hold onto the anchor for longer than 3 years, give or take.
And how's he going to go about removing the Veil?
...I've thought up this horrible theory that since the anchor's no longer an option, he might go with what the magisters did: mass blood sacrifice (of mostly elven blood), only on a worldwide scale.
Somebody please tell me there's another way T_T
Some tumblrina's got a hold of it and said it was abusive because IB was crass with Dorian and clearly did not respect Dorian's boundaries and requests to stop and Dorian's a drunk and doesn't have any agency????
I mean I have NO idea what they were talking about because I didn't see that AT ALL. Bull is crass with EVERYBODY. But the thing he's very sensitive and very clear behind the scenes about getting permission. So it's a front. Dorian is no more a drunk than Vivienne is. He also seems with it about 99% of the time. So that one was like...kaay? Are you playing a different game?
I did read the rest of the explanation, but the only thing that stuck was "tumblrina." 
Why are you so good at words?!
Heh this reminds me of the good ol' days where we were discussing this, and Solas' capacity to be ruthless. I'm not one to say I told ya so though. (Yes I am XD )
Kidding, lol. I'm glad he indeed had a ruthless side, but hope he wouldn't go quite so far, not unless maybe he was using certain people like say... Orlesians, hehehe.... for the sacrifice. Then for me, even if we lose, I win.
But the last thing I want is him going "Muahaha!" bad. Ruthless, yes, but don't turn him into a big bad, or you'll make one of the most interesting characters rather boring. Main villain is fine though.
Realizing that elves are leaving alienages and quite possibly flocking to his side, there was some discussion a week or two ago about what could be done with so many people willing to sacrifice their lives for the cause. There's no way Solas doesn't know about what the Magisters did to enter the Fade (or if he doesn't, he can check it out in the Fade). If the anchor's power is unusable and there is no other way, and if Solas feels desperate enough (and I would say he is), what would it matter to him that he did a few more horrible deeds? The future will be better once he pulls down the veil. it HAS to be, as it's the only reason he has of living at the moment. He's already a monster so what's more blood on his hands? After all, he tells a romanced Lavellan that he doesn't want her to see the monster he'll become...
But, a tweet from Patrick Weekes seems to say he's gotten the anchor back, so he shouldn't need the blood sacrifice. Hopefully.
I did read the rest of the explanation, but the only thing that stuck was "tumblrina."
Why are you so good at words?!
I cannot take credit for that one. That's an old derogatory word for the community on there - mostly people that start **** without thinking critically or promoting fake news stories because they can't be bothered to check the facts.
But, a tweet from Patrick Weekes seems to say he's gotten the anchor back, so he shouldn't need the blood sacrifice. Hopefully.
Which tweet is that?
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