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[NeverlandHunter]

yea XD well I think Lavellan goes well for him in this scene ( Even though I would never be able to pick this but I laughed so bad ) : 

 Haha, I almost feel bad for Solas!

[Yaslana]

Outta likes.

 

And his nose. All of the Elven noses are beautiful.. Solas, Abelas, Ameridan, I think they're all aquiline:

 

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All those ancient elves *_*

As much as I love Solas, I wouldn't know whom to choose if they were all 3 a romance option. 

Just give all 3 to me.

[NeverlandHunter]

Does anyone have a link to the story (written down, not the video) that Solas tells about the matchmaker from the Fade? I'm contemplating writing a short story about something similar.

[Tess]

No way I can catch up with 80 pages in an hour...

later, perhaps.

So, instead, some screenshots from my game.

 

The more I look at his behaviour... he's graceful, "elfy", yes... but ultimately dangerous. 

Not that my Lavellan is an innocent lamb, she has blood on her hands too. Celen, and the unfortunate demise of her entire clan by a miscalculation on her end... not that different from her lover, I suppose. Also, I've been headcannoning whether they've done the deed, while doodling whatever came to my mind. Will post the picture later. Needless to say, on that picture I was doodling on my phone... they did the deed. Hah.

 

Solas unimpressed

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Care to dance? My Lavellan post WInter Palace drama and still feeling heavily guilty about her clan, I'd guess.

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The look of a fully romanced Solas can still be... slightly scary.

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Hope all is well and people are nice to each other, also a very belated gratz on 5k posts

Back to lurking and catching up with a lot of pages here.

[FernRain]

All those ancient elves *_*

As much as I love Solas, I wouldn't know whom to choose if they were all 3 a romance option. 

Just give all 3 to me.

 

Hmm if their personalities were fleshed out like Solas'..

 

Solas is the intellectual carer,

Abelas seems like a curious loyalist,

Ameridan is the empathetic sacrificer.

 

Meh, totally musing. Just things I've noticed about them.

[FernRain]

Solas unimpressed

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That moment when the LIs raise their eyebrow has had me confused for so long. Are they raising their eyebrow at Morrigan or the inquisitor? When I first saw Solas do it, it creeped me out a bit .

[NeverlandHunter]

That moment when the LIs raise their eyebrow has had me confused for so long. Are they raising their eyebrow at Morrigan or the inquisitor? When I first saw Solas do it, it creeped me out a bit .

Morrigan! I like his reaction to her, every LI has one when they pass her, but Solas's just seems so dubious, or just "eyebrow raising" about her!

[Illyria]

So Patrick finally answered why Solas is female only.

 

https://twitter.com/...891965045448708

 

Solas was intentionally written as straight to avoid the "Depraved Bisexual" trope because of how some people would view him.

 

I frigging love Weekes.

[Illyria]

I am so hype for Maevaris in DA4.

 

So am I, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much.  There's a chance she might not show or she'll be in a smaller role than she deserves.  I'm hoping she'll be a mage companion.  She'll be like Viv, only competent
 

[Illyria]

It's nice, but I wish it didn't come at the cost of once again having plot heavy characters being straight romance only.  While I've mostly gotten over it, this being brought up again kinda re-opens an old wound for me.

 

Bioware have been pretty good at this in Dragon Age, though.  Yes, Alistair and Morrigan are both straight, but they're also both plot critical (although Morrigan gets more love from the game) so you get the option of a plot critical romance regardless.  Anders is bisexual so anyone can romance him (as is Isabela, who I would say is the Act II plot critical romance).  Solas - very usually - is plot critical and for women only.  Yes, he's straight, but he's for women which is still pretty rare in an AAA game.
 

[Catfishers]

So am I, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much.  There's a chance she might not show or she'll be in a smaller role than she deserves.  I'm hoping she'll be a mage companion.  She'll be like Viv, only competent
 

 

[Illyria]

I give him props for answering the question! And I think they probably made the right call...but it wouldn't have been a problem if there were more diversity in gay romance types. Hopefully in the future, that will be changed. 

 

Given as the devs were pretty open about wanting to make Cullen bi but scrapping it due to not working for the character then I'm guessing a gay/bi KISA is high on the agenda.  Very excited about that.  Also hoping for an ace character soon.

[Abelis]

About all the discussion of Solas and his plan. Let me put it in another perspective:

What if bringing down the Veil ,'destroys' the material form of who cannot outlive it, but their spirits leave their bodies to be reborn if they wish (which seems possible with all we know about how spirit can take a material form). This doesnt mean that the spirits would be the same people (in terms of memories), a parallel of what he says when his spirit friends in his personal mission dies (if one is strongly willed, a new alike spirit will form but with no previous memories). But then again Justinia in the Fade (or a spirit with her memories? or whatever it is?) seems to remember everything.

I'm not saying this will be a better or worse world (probably a lot better or a lot worse, no between), but it will surely have a lot of potential in terms of shaping and creating. How could you see things then?

[Shari'El]

There is a "you failed" ending for ME3, though you actually have to try harder to do that badly and get such a low EMS.  Though that's probably not what you wanted.  I dunno.  If the next DA wraps up this Age, branching endings might work.  Then the next game in the series would be a reboot, taking place in the future.  Or maybe across the sea.  But drastically diverging endings don't work so well when you want the game's events to carry over directly into the sequels.  The Dark Ritual was headache enough.

 

You could also hit star child and get a horrible ending xD

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

Trespasser: The Tearing of the Veil by paperwick. A cleaned up updated version of this comic of hers.

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Source: http://paperwick.tum...-you-sleep-ever

 

 

Would Solas be a dog person or cat person?

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Source: http://niklisson.tum...niklisson-would

 

A lot answered cat:

 

 

While others answered dog:

 

 

Doge:

 

 

Cat version:

 

 

I can show you the Faaaaade! (Solas and Lavellan)

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Source: http://fischotterche...-like-one-of-my

 

 

Drunk flirting? (Solas and male Lavellan)

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Source: http://schrodanger.t...ou-started-nerd

 

 

Solas and Lavellan sketch.

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Source: http://sibylance.tum...lavellan-comics

 

[dragondreamer]

Bioware have been pretty good at this in Dragon Age, though.  Yes, Alistair and Morrigan are both straight, but they're also both plot critical (although Morrigan gets more love from the game) so you get the option of a plot critical romance regardless.  Anders is bisexual so anyone can romance him (as is Isabela, who I would say is the Act II plot critical romance).  Solas - very usually - is plot critical and for women only.  Yes, he's straight, but he's for women which is still pretty rare in an AAA game.
 

 

Heh, when they left the DA2 model for the romances, I *knew* the plot important characters were going to be straight only again.  And sure enough...  Alistair and Morrigan were both sore points for me to begin with, and what happened with Solas just reinforced it.  And women, particularly straight women, usually have the most romance choices in DA games.  I'm well aware.  (Oh, so you're unavailable too, Cass?  Alrighty.)  My canon Lavellan was originally going to be male, and I ended up genderswapping him because I knew I was going to regret it if I was too stubborn.  The characters that are typically available to the kind of character I prefer to play are very enjoyable characters, but they never have the juicy story the straight romances get.  And there was no way I was sitting out on a story that was likely to be heavily elven lore in nature.

 

I've made my peace with it, and I wouldn't change my canon Lavellan now, but I'm always going to carry that little bitter grain.

 

(And bless Bull for coming out of left field and sweeping up my Dudevellan.  Tho ironically enough, he could fall under that "depraved bisexual" trope as well.)

[FernRain]

While on Solas' artifact quest he says this about veilfire:

 

 

I mean.. I know he said to the inquisitor that he only lied by omission (about being the Dread Wolf?), but Cassandra was the one to ask about the veilfire. Would he, of all people, have never seen it? It's even in the Vir Dirthara..

[Shari'El]

While on Solas' artifact quest he says this about veilfire:

 

 

I mean.. I know he said to the inquisitor that he only lied by omission (about being the Dread Wolf?), but Cassandra was the one to ask about the veilfire. Would he, of all people, have never seen it? It's even in the Vir Dirthara..

 

Yeah, it bothered me as well at the time, I can't believe it to be true because of the Dread Wolf puzzles and the veilfire rune on the titan mural, I'm 90% certain Solas created that rune >_>

[flabbadence]

While on Solas' artifact quest he says this about veilfire:

 

 

I mean.. I know he said to the inquisitor that he only lied by omission (about being the Dread Wolf?), but Cassandra was the one to ask about the veilfire. Would he, of all people, have never seen it? It's even in the Vir Dirthara..

 

...maybe it worked differently before the Veil? Like, maybe you didn't have to activate it before, didn't have to call on the Fade, the writing and fire and everything was plain for everyone to see.

[Shari'El]

...maybe it worked differently before the Veil? Like, maybe you didn't have to activate it before, didn't have to call on the Fade, the writing and fire and everything was plain for everyone to see.

 

I'm so confused

http://dragonage.wik...Art_of_Veilfire

 

Perhaps we can ask Weekes? It's kind of weird.

 

He also says "it's a form of sympathetic magic, a memory of flame that burns in this world where the Veil is thin"

 

If that's true, it means these things didn't exist pre-Veil (and that Solas wasn't lying), so how could there be veilfire runes?

Did the elves create a magical fire that is different from regular fire and post-Veil its' memory became veilfire? I can't see how regular fire will not be able to show the images within the runes otherwise.

[Catfishers]

I'm so confused

http://dragonage.wik...Art_of_Veilfire

 

Perhaps we can ask Weekes? It's kind of weird.

 

He also says "it's a form of sympathetic magic, a memory of flame that burns in this world where the Veil is thin"

 

If that's true, it means these things didn't exist pre-Veil (and that Solas wasn't lying), so how could there be veilfire runes?

Did the elves create a magical fire that is different from regular fire and post-Veil its' memory became veilfire? I can't see how regular fire will not be able to show the images within the runes otherwise.

 

Perhaps Veilfire runes were just runes that drew on the magic of the Fade in order to evoke memories and impressions. As in; they were always a special form of writing intended to impart more than just the literal written meaning, and before the Veil was constructed could be read as one would a book, but now can only be accessed in full with the application of Veilfire. Maybe without the presence of the Fade to store/power the memory/emotional portion of the rune, they simply don't work.

[flabbadence]

Perhaps Veilfire runes were just runes that drew on the magic of the Fade in order to evoke memories and impressions. As in; they were always a special form of writing intended to impart more than just the literal written meaning, and before the Veil was constructed could be read as one would a book, but now can only be accessed in full with the application of Veilfire. Maybe without the presence of the Fade to store/power the memory/emotional portion of the rune, they simply don't work.

 

Out of likes but yes, this is a better explanation

[Raege]

Heh, when they left the DA2 model for the romances, I *knew* the plot important characters were going to be straight only again.  And sure enough...  Alistair and Morrigan were both sore points for me to begin with, and what happened with Solas just reinforced it.  And women, particularly straight women, usually have the most romance choices in DA games.  I'm well aware.  (Oh, so you're unavailable too, Cass?  Alrighty.)  My canon Lavellan was originally going to be male, and I ended up genderswapping him because I knew I was going to regret it if I was too stubborn.  The characters that are typically available to the kind of character I prefer to play are very enjoyable characters, but they never have the juicy story the straight romances get.  And there was no way I was sitting out on a story that was likely to be heavily elven lore in nature.

 

I've made my peace with it, and I wouldn't change my canon Lavellan now, but I'm always going to carry that little bitter grain.

 

(And bless Bull for coming out of left field and sweeping up my Dudevellan.  Tho ironically enough, he could fall under that "depraved bisexual" trope as well.)

 

Leliana was a bi romance in DAO. And she's been quite plot relevant ever since. Yes she wasn't the most relevantest romance of the game she was romance in but I wouldn't count her out so fast. If predictions come true and we're going to Tevinter for DA4 and Dorian is there, he's also plot relevant. Once again not in the game he was romance in but still plot relevant.

 

As for straight females having the most choices. Iirc in DAO both straight sexes had the same amount of choice. In DA2 sfemales had one more because of DLC, but the two in the base game were basically both whiny, mass murdering bitches (one with better motive than the other). DAI is pretty bad in having very little choice for straight males and a lot for females. It's still pretty miraculous in game industry. I'd also encourage you to look at another big BioWare name, Mass Effect. There is a plot relevant bi romance that carries over all three games in there. The one straight female romance that carries over all three games suddenly turns bi in the 3rd game and the rest of the options aren't exactly great (alien, dead alien and other fun options). DAI was great in that pretty much everyone has diverse options that don't suck. It will always be impossible to 100% please everyone's fancy.

 

Yes I know I propably misused gender and sex there but I'm pretty sure everyone got the point anyway

 

That said I understand the pain of not getting recognized as a legit group of customers. My left ear is deaf and no modern game allows you to have mono sound with headphones from game settings anymore. No, it's all about that directional sound which all but mutes anything not coming from the side your earphone is in (it's ridiculous anyone thinks this is how sounds works irl /sigh). Esspecially noticeable at wartable where Josie is the only person I can acctually hear when looking at Ferelden <.<

[NeverlandHunter]

I just wandered on to the Josephine thread, saw this, and had to post it here!

 

There should be a Josephine romance scene where you take her on a date in Val Royeaux and there is a montage of all the different things you do together, and in every clip Leliana is somewhere in the background in a different bad disguise

http://thecopperkidd...i-did-the-thing

 

[S.W.]

So Patrick finally answered why Solas is female only.
 
https://twitter.com/...891965045448708
 
Solas was intentionally written as straight to avoid the "Depraved Bisexual" trope because of how some people would view him.

Weekes.

 

I love the fact that we have an author who bothers to think about that much.

 

However I do concur with most thoughts on this thread about straight plot-critical romances. Bioware is much better than other AAA game companies on this point, by a long way, but I do find it irritating how limited my options are if I'm roleplaying a lesbian and I want to be swept away by another lady in a plot critical romance. The most you get is Isabella, really.

 

I would agree with most criticisms of the 'playersexual' DA2 romance options, but one big advantage was that it allowed me to play gay Hawke of two genders and still have a plot-crucial, satisfying romance.

 

It's interesting to note that the name "Corypheus" is the anglicized version of the Greek word "Koryphaios," which is the lead actor in a dramatic chorus.  What is the role of the Chorus?  To describe action without actually being able to do anything.  To comment on the deeds of gods and heroes while remaining passive.  To set the stage for the players who really matter.  Cory is the actor who showed up to play his part, only to find the stage empty and the script unwritten.
 
So naturally he goes nuts and tries to burn down the theater.  Like you do.

Or quite possibly, he inadvertently set up the stage for the real actor in this play - Solas. Perhaps Corypheus' role was really to set out a thematic prelude about a number of issues relating to Solas' next arc - how we define godhood and divinity, for instance.

 

I still find it baffling that you can be an immortal being with an obscene amount of power who manages to transform the metaphysical composition of this world and resist being called a god.
 

You could also hit star child and get a horrible ending xD

 

That's my favourite ending of ME3. I can tell starchild that he's an awful piece of software that deserves a smack in the face. Immensely more satisfying than the good endings I actually get.

 

I hope DA provides plenty of ends, but rewards/punishes you more for the choices that you consciously made rather than the ones you didn't. Most of the variety in ME3's endings was based on EMS, i.e. 'did you do all the unnecessary side quests or not?'. I'm a completionist, I hate finishing games with stray ends, so I don't end up with a lot of variety there. I also hope it tells us what individual companions end up getting up to - one of my bugbears about ME3 was that after (presumably) being rescued, I had no idea what the crew of the Normandy ended up doing with the rest of their lives.

 

I think, also, if whether something world-transforming - like whether the veil is removed or not - becomes a choice, then the series should probably end there. I would like to play a game in a post-veil environment but I consider that pretty unlikely.