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[Catfishers]

Weirdly enough, I feel like this is the one area where both the 'Solas can be saved' and the 'Solas needs to die in a fire' sides of the BSN can agree; we all want Quizzy to be the one to judge him.

[CapricornSun]

Rogue flirt is in here

 

This is my favorite one.

 

I love how playful he sounds when he says, "No, I am declaring it. It was not a subject for debate." 

And it's not like I replayed this video a few times just to listen to his beautiful voice. Nope. Not me. 

[Miss This or That]

Mage is my favorite class, but the rogue flirt is the best of them all. I'm declaring it.

 

Fite me and my warrior Lavellan. 

[k_drake]

Oh god yes please.

 

And Fenris. And Merrill. And Velanna.

 

Just, all the elves T_T

 

I wonder who's going to join Fen'Harel among them? Zevran won't, like you said. Fenris won't like this bringing back the magic plan, but if it comes packaged with a Tevinter slave rebellion, he might. Merrill... probably will. And Velanna. Depends on what Solas's going to promise them, I suppose?

 

 

 

 At least now we know better (pfft like that'll help. bring on the betrayal)

Nope, no way Fenris would go for this.  He would probably be well and truly horrified by the behaviors of the ancient Elvhen, and would do everything in his power to prevent their resurgence. 

...Now I really want Solas and Fenris to meet.  Rawr.

It does seem likely Merrill would be on board...although once she found out the truth about the Creators?  I don't know.  You have to wonder how much Solas is telling his agents about what things were like in the halcyon days of old Arlathan...like, does everyone think they'll get to be an evanuri?  When it's like, haha no, you'll still be a slave, just a magical one.

[drosophila]

Fite me and my warrior Lavellan. 

 

My Lavellan will cast a calm soothing barrier around your Lavellan and offer an alliance. They need each other.

 

Meanwhile, fite me IRL

[flabbadence]

Nope, no way Fenris would go for this.  He would probably be well and truly horrified by the behaviors of the ancient Elvhen, and would do everything in his power to prevent their resurgence. 

...Now I really want Solas and Fenris to meet.  Rawr.

It does seem likely Merrill would be on board...although once she found out the truth about the Creators?  I don't know.  You have to wonder how much Solas is telling his agents about what things were like in the halcyon days of old Arlathan...like, does everyone think they'll get to be an evanuri?  When it's like, haha no, you'll still be a slave, just a magical one.

 

Thing is, this is the Dread Wolf leading this plan. I'm pretty sure he's going to do his damnedest to make sure the world he's going to restore won't include slaves, magical or not. Then again it's Solas planning so  . But still, if he does manage to handle the Evanuris, I think the likelier question's going to be whether modern elves are even going to be able to survive the change.

[midnight tea]

Are we not done with the Inquisition? I'm so confused about that because I can't keep up with everything that PW and co say on Twitter and I thought that I had seen something where he or someone else was all "We are DEFINITELY done with the inquisition."

This is more confusing than the Fade.

 

They're done with Inquisition, in a sense that they're done with Dragon Age: Inquisition (DA3) as a chapter in a story, but with all the revelations in Trespasser and tiles in DA Keep it's pretty obvious that we're not done with Inquisition as an organization or Inquisitor as a character.

 

....And while they're pretty tight-lipped about what's going to happen in the next game (hell, they can't even tell us if there will be next DA game, though apparently they're not worried about that), I don't ever recall them saying that Inquisitor will NOT appear in the next game, as adamantly as they say that HOF will not - even though I'm pretty goddamn sure they're currently bombarded with questions about Inky's return, seeing just how many threads in the BSN we have now for that exact topic.

[drosophila]

I've been meaning to ask, since  I don't know anything about game dev:

 

Is there some technical challenge about having Inky return as protagonist? Or is it purely a question of how they envision the game and the plot and how the Inquisitor fits with that?

[figment_]

While that would IMO be ideal from a player perspective, I think it would cause a lot of trouble for the devs.  Now you've got at least six VAs for the protagonist; 4 potential voices for the quizzy, and at least one male and female voice for the new PC.  Probably too expensive.

 

I think it's more likely we'll get dual protagonist.

I meant instead of a dual protagonist, btw, Quizzy or new character, player's choice for those few souls that haven't played DAI or want to start fresh??? I think I'm confusing myself...

[Illyria]

I got u drosophila XD I loved Celene at the start and hated her by the end

I hated Gaspard at the start and hated him less at the end

 

I was the same.

 

Although my feelings on Celene now change daily.

 

(shouldn't your sig say 'eggcellent'?)
 

[AllThatJazz]

Hey guys, I made this poll to see which protagonist people want in DA4. You can choose more than one option. http://www.strawpoll.me/5569513

Voted, for both Inquisitor as protag, and dual protag. I'd be happy with either. No Hawke style cameo though, please.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I've been meaning to ask, since I don't know anything about game dev:

Is there some technical challenge about having Inky return as protagonist? Or is it purely a question of how they envision the game and the plot and how the Inquisitor fits with that?

I have some friends in game development, and the short answer is that there are ALWAYS technical challenges. Just different flavors of challenge.

[k_drake]

Thing is, this is the Dread Wolf leading this plan. I'm pretty sure he's going to do his damnedest to make sure the world he's going to restore won't include slaves, magical or not. Then again it's Solas planning so  . But still, if he does manage to handle the Evanuris, I think the likelier question's going to be whether modern elves are even going to be able to survive the change.

Yeah, I sort of imagine it being like, the elves know they're going to die, but they think they'll get a "place in paradise" as reincarnations.  Sort of like when the spirit of Wisdom in the Exalted Plains dies, but its energy is recycled.  And while I agree Solas would try fight against social injustice in the new world, I think right now his goal is: Destroy Veil, ask questions later.  B/c Quizzy is like, "Okay, but won't the false gods be set loose upon the world, and didn't you say that's a bad thing?"  And he was like, "Oh well, it will probably be awful but Imma do it anyway, luv u kthxbai."  

[Aroihkin]

The only technical challenge I can think of off-hand (...lol) is power scaling, but since they lopped off the Inquisitor's arm, removed their biggest weapon (Anchor), and scattered their allies and either neutered or disbanded their personal army, they could easily start the Inquisitor off damn near at "brand new protagonist" level of power. New skill trees, new xp while learning to deal with one arm, etc.

 

The only real difference is people know the Inquisitor. But even then, as Iron Bull showed us early in the base game, soldiers who watched the Inquisitor face down Corypheus still didn't recognize them when they changed their clothes. (The arm is somewhat a give-away, but who knows.) Having people know the Inquisitor could be useful for the plot, too, calling in favors and leveraging influence on a small (no army or Anchor to back it up) scale.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I meant instead of a dual protagonist, btw, Quizzy or new character, player's choice for those few souls that haven't played DAI or want to start fresh??? I think I'm confusing myself...

I know. And if it's player's choice, suddenly you need to record the main character's dialogue six times over to account for the new character who has to have at least 2 voices, and quizzy who has 4. It's a lot of extra work for, as you said, a few people who are new to the series. So IMO not worth it.

By ME3 they basically just tossed people in and said go. I think it'll be the same with DA4.

[flabbadence]

I've been meaning to ask, since  I don't know anything about game dev:

 

Is there some technical challenge about having Inky return as protagonist? Or is it purely a question of how they envision the game and the plot and how the Inquisitor fits with that?

 

Well I'm no game dev, so this is just my suppositions, but a few things they'll have to think about before bringing Inky back would be:

 

1) Player's expectations. We're used to seeing a new protagonist every game, so it'll be a game-changer if they deviate from that. I'll be pretty happy, but a lot of people won't be too.

 

2) The hand. Now that Inky doesn't have their left hand or the anchor, that's going to be a big change gameplay wise and animation wise. Some of us got crossbow arms in the epilogue, some would like prosthetics, some would like stumps. And they're going to have to be really careful on how they're going to handle a canonically disabled protagonist. Which I'd be really excited to see, but again, maybe they'd rather not take that on. (Hope they do though T_T)

[Aroihkin]

Also the "what about people who didn't play Inquisition" question re: bringing the Inquisitor back...

 

I'm sorry, I've never played Mass Effect so perhaps there's a mechanic I don't know about, but isn't Shepard still Shepard whether you start with the first game or not? Did the first two games' events not happen if I start with the third?

 

IMO people can handle a protagonist with a history they haven't personally played out in the previous game.

 

Edit:

 

ToP Solas?!?

 

Hm, I'm still very fond of this one I did, and it feels on-point even if it predates us knowing the arm was coming off:

 

Spoiler

 

 

(I've considered doing a sequel and having her arm dissolve because I'm awful. No wonder I like this romance.)

 

[Catfishers]

1) Player's expectations. We're used to seeing a new protagonist every game, so it'll be a game-changer if they deviate from that. I'll be pretty happy, but a lot of people won't be too.

 

I actually feel a little bad for Bioware, because it seems like there's going to be a contingent of people who are pissed no matter which way they swing it.

 

...Team Quizzy for DA4

[Cee]

Also the "what about people who didn't play Inquisition" question re: bringing the Inquisitor back...

 

I'm sorry, I've never played Mass Effect so perhaps there's a mechanic I don't know about, but isn't Shepard still Shepard whether you start with the first game or not? Did the first two games' events not happen if I start with the third?

 

IMO people can handle a protagonist with a history they haven't personally played out in the previous game.

 

For many people, Inquisition was their first DA game. I know a couple of them. I think they can swing it for someone just jumping in. Shepard is a good example.

[flabbadence]

I actually feel a little bad for Bioware, because it seems like there's going to be a contingent of people who are pissed no matter which way they swing it.

 

...Team Quizzy for DA4

 

Then I'll just hope they swing our way 

 

TEAM QUIZZY FOR DA4: ARMED AND READY

[k_drake]

Also the "what about people who didn't play Inquisition" question re: bringing the Inquisitor back...

 

I'm sorry, I've never played Mass Effect so perhaps there's a mechanic I don't know about, but isn't Shepard still Shepard whether you start with the first game or not? Did the first two games' events not happen if I start with the third?

 

IMO people can handle a protagonist with a history they haven't personally played out in the previous game.

Dragon Age Keep will definitely facilitate that, too.  People can still get the gist of the story and customize a world state w/o necessarily having had to play through the previous games. 

[Uirebhiril]

Thing is, this is the Dread Wolf leading this plan. I'm pretty sure he's going to do his damnedest to make sure the world he's going to restore won't include slaves, magical or not. Then again it's Solas planning so  . But still, if he does manage to handle the Evanuris, I think the likelier question's going to be whether modern elves are even going to be able to survive the change.

 

Or if the modern elves survive to some degree, will the immortal elves accept them or will that then be the new lower class? It would be terrible and as much as Solas may not see them as "people," I can't imagine he'd be all too happy with a new variety of slave and slaver. I guess if modern elves become immortal and get their magic back they'll have a better chance, but I'd still see it ending up kind of like Tevinter. Maybe.

[figment_]

Also the "what about people who didn't play Inquisition" question re: bringing the Inquisitor back...

 

I'm sorry, I've never played Mass Effect so perhaps there's a mechanic I don't know about, but isn't Shepard still Shepard whether you start with the first game or not? Did the first two games' events not happen if I start with the third?

 

IMO people can handle a protagonist with a history they haven't personally played out in the previous game.

Yes, that too...I meant to mention that in my post!

[Cee]

I was the same.

 

Although my feelings on Celene now change daily.

 

(shouldn't your sig say 'eggcellent'?)
 

 

Out of my head.

 

 

[AllThatJazz]

I actually feel a little bad for Bioware, because it seems like there's going to be a contingent of people who are pissed no matter which way they swing it.

 

...Team Quizzy for DA4

Dual protag would be a good way around this, everyone gets what they want in terms of new/returning character. But yeah, at increased lead VA cost, so there'd have to be a trade-off somewhere else, presumably.