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[flabbadence]

Or if the modern elves survive to some degree, will the immortal elves accept them or will that then be the new lower class? It would be terrible and as much as Solas may not see them as "people," I can't imagine he'd be all too happy with a new variety of slave and slaver. I guess if modern elves become immortal and get their magic back they'll have a better chance, but I'd still see it ending up kind of like Tevinter. Maybe.

 

...And since it looks like Solas isn't planning to come out of this alive, that may very well happen. It was mostly the nobles and priests who entered uthenera after all. Though I'm sure he had his people enter uthenera as well, so they'll look after the modern elves if that happens. Hopefully.

[drosophila]

For many people, Inquisition was their first DA game. I know a couple of them. I think they can swing it for someone just jumping in. Shepard is a good example.

 

Yeah, DAI was my first game, period, if we don't count The Sims and Grim Fandango. They did a great job, most of the time I was too interested in these amazing characters (especially one of them ) to be deterred by the backlog of lore and events I'm still not fully caught up on. And it makes the replay value much higher.

[MoonDrummer]

Hope we get a new protag in the next game, if there are playable segments with the inq I wont complain though. 

[flabbadence]

Dual protag would be a good way around this, everyone gets what they want in terms of new/returning character. But yeah, at increased lead VA cost, so there'd have to be a trade-off somewhere else, presumably.

 

I wonder if the devs are regretting the four voices option now

[midnight tea]

I've been meaning to ask, since  I don't know anything about game dev:

 

Is there some technical challenge about having Inky return as protagonist? Or is it purely a question of how they envision the game and the plot and how the Inquisitor fits with that?

 

I'm not a game dev, so at best I can offer the best guess, based on my observations and some stuff devs said in interviews or panels.

 

Anyway, I suppose the biggest challenge would likely be one of balancing between their own vision AND attracting new players to the franchise. For those new who come to the franchise, playing an already well-established character (especially with so many variants between them - who they romanced, are they more diplomatic or aggressive) may be somewhat off-putting, though the success of ME series suggests that it's not something that's undoable.

 

In fact, the lead writer now is someone who worked years on ME franchise - which itself suggests that they may indeed go the route of either keeping Inky as protagonist or secondary protag, since people responsible for the story know how to write it for recurring, customizable characters.

 

The difference between DA and ME is that we seem to have (on surface, at least) more options for creating our characters: different races, different backgrounds, somewhat different reactions to races and backgrounds, etc. - I suspect that itself may decide many things about the scope of the game, seeing that voiceover and cutscenes seem to be really expensive and time-consuming to create (unless they have some sort of new technology that will help them quickly re-adjust animations to different body models or something). Really, when it comes to this, I can only guess.

 

The biggest problem I see now for Inky to be the main character is... well... romanceability. Let's face it - as optional as they are, romances are a staple of BW games. And in Inquisition/Treaspasser Quizzies can even marry some of their companions or advisers. Not really sure that can be reconciled, especially with new, interesting characters who will likely be romanceable too.

 

That is likely the biggest challenge of bringing Inky as main protag, because it would likely require to bring their LIs at some measure - and creating a lot of content that will be locked out and never accessed, especially by newcomers, is likely the biggest issue. With dual protagonist that aspect of Inky's life can likely be pushed farther into the background - some codexes, some comments, maybe a short cutscene or two where they interact in a small measure...

 

At least, that's the way I see it.

[drosophila]

TEAM QUIZZY FOR DA4: ARMED AND READY

 

I'm putting this in my signature

[Uirebhiril]

2) The hand. Now that Inky doesn't have their left hand or the anchor, that's going to be a big change gameplay wise and animation wise. Some of us got crossbow arms in the epilogue, some would like prosthetics, some would like stumps. And they're going to have to be really careful on how they're going to handle a canonically disabled protagonist. Which I'd be really excited to see, but again, maybe they'd rather not take that on. (Hope they do though T_T)

 

I'd actually love to see the Inquisitor back for that reason. I'm sure they would do something like fine dwarf-crafted arms (haha) or weapon attachments or something, and with the arm and anchor being gone it'd be easy to start the character at a low level. If done well and sensitively, it would be badass. I know some people hate the arm being gone, but I doubt that would be that much of an issue if they want to use magic or a prosthetic.

[midnight tea]

I actually feel a little bad for Bioware, because it seems like there's going to be a contingent of people who are pissed no matter which way they swing it.

 

...Team Quizzy for DA4

 

It seems to be a sad reality of game development. There will always be people who will find something to be pissed off about.

[AllThatJazz]

@Moondrummer - love your avatar. 

[figment_]

I got u drosophila XD I loved Celene at the start and hated her by the end

I hated Gaspard at the start and hated him less at the end

My thoughts exactly!

[flabbadence]

I'm putting this in my signature

 

 

!!!!! *fistbump*

[Yaslana]

I'd actually love to see the Inquisitor back for that reason. I'm sure they would do something like fine dwarf-crafted arms (haha) or weapon attachments or something, and with the arm and anchor being gone it'd be easy to start the character at a low level. If done well and sensitively, it would be badass. I know some people hate the arm being gone, but I doubt that would be that much of an issue if they want to use magic or a prosthetic.

 

I dont know if I remember right? But I heard somewhere that PW said on PAX that they are trying to animate a disabled Char atm, someone like IB, f.e. who had one arm with a canon thingy attached to it in the concept art. So I would guess they are working on Quizzy. 

 

Also, I would be all over my badass one-armed Lavellan. I would craft her new cool crossbow prosthesis and she would be awesome!

 

Also ML said that a dual protag would be interesting and something they think about.

[flabbadence]

I'd actually love to see the Inquisitor back for that reason. I'm sure they would do something like fine dwarf-crafted arms (haha) or weapon attachments or something, and with the arm and anchor being gone it'd be easy to start the character at a low level. If done well and sensitively, it would be badass. I know some people hate the arm being gone, but I doubt that would be that much of an issue if they want to use magic or a prosthetic.

 

Gah yes, let Dagna go wild

[Sable Rhapsody]

I wonder if the devs are regretting the four voices option now

 

I did notice (and this may be a coincidence) that quizzy is overall less chatty than Hawke and Shep were.  Quizzy's dialogue lines are generally shorter and more to-the-point; certainly there aren't as many of Shep's Really Inspiring Speeches ™. I wonder if the increased VA cost had something to do with that.

 

I am glad they did the four voices, though.  I have Alix's for Lavellan and Jon Curry's for Adaar, and I think I would have had trouble playing Adaar with the posh British voice

[Moondreamer01]

*snips*

 

TEAM QUIZZY FOR DA4: ARMED AND READY

YOU. I like you

[nikkylee]

Totally off topic:

 

My Discover playlist on Spotify is shipping Solavellan today. Started with some Red Riding Hood song by Amanda Seyfried and then this one I'd never heard before, The Keeper by Kina Grannis. It's all folksy and I've added it to my list o' Solas songs.

 

Lyrics:

Spoiler

Ooooooo Ooooooo [x2]

 

Leaves on the ground, waiting but there’s no sound

Years go by, layers of love, lust, fire

Ice all around, everything lost and found

(Take me, hold me, save me, keep me safe)

Blankets of dirt, collections of dreams and hurt

(Memories buried lately in this place)

 

Nobody has to know

 

I’ll be the warmth when your heart’s growing cold

And you’re on your own

I’ll be the compass that points you to north

I will be your keeper

 

Ooooooo Ooooooo [x2]

 

Sand and stone, struggles to claim and own

(Take my burden, I can’t bear the weight)

Wars lost won, promises come undone

(I’ve been fighting, trying not to break)

 

Nobody has to know

 

I’ll be the warmth when your heart’s growing cold

And you’re on your own

I’ll be the compass that points you to north

When you’re lost along the road

I’ll be the voice of an old favorite song

Taking you back home

I’ll be the guard at the top of the tower

I will be your keeper

 

Nobody has to know 

 

Ooooooo Ooooooo [x4]

[flabbadence]

I did notice (and this may be a coincidence) that quizzy is overall less chatty than Hawke and Shep were.  Quizzy's dialogue lines are generally shorter and more to-the-point; certainly there aren't as many of Shep's Really Inspiring Speeches ™. I wonder if the increased VA cost had something to do with that.

 

I am glad they did the four voices, though.  I have Alix's for Lavellan and Jon Curry's for Adaar, and I think I would have had trouble playing Adaar with the posh British voice

 

So am I   . Like the other numerous options in the CC, kind of made my characters more mine

[Uirebhiril]

I wonder if the devs are regretting the four voices option now

 

HI I SEEM TO LIKE RESPONDING TO YOU TODAY

 

How about this: They went with four voices because they knew they'd bring the character back in the future.

 

Probably not, but... anything is possible?

[flabbadence]

YOU. I like you

 

I'm charming, what can I say?

 

(Oh god I've already written a post-trespasser fic full of puns, i am running out of comebacks  )

[Aroihkin]

TEAM QUIZZY FOR DA4: ARMED AND READY

 

Amazinggggg. Aro greatly approves.

[drosophila]

(Oh god I've already written a post-trespasser fic full of puns, i am running out of comebacks  )

 

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[Aroihkin]

I'd actually love to see the Inquisitor back for that reason. I'm sure they would do something like fine dwarf-crafted arms (haha) or weapon attachments or something, and with the arm and anchor being gone it'd be easy to start the character at a low level. If done well and sensitively, it would be badass. I know some people hate the arm being gone, but I doubt that would be that much of an issue if they want to use magic or a prosthetic.

 

Considering my warrior could already ostensibly shoot a grappling chain out of somewhere and hook and then yank something that weighed three times her weight through the air to land at her feet...

 

Prosthetics, let's go.

 

Doesn't even have to be magic-based to be awesome.

[flabbadence]

HI I SEEM TO LIKE RESPONDING TO YOU TODAY

 

How about this: They went with four voices because they knew they'd bring the character back in the future.

 

Probably not, but... anything is possible?

 

YES THE FLAG IS RISING

[midnight tea]

I'd actually love to see the Inquisitor back for that reason. I'm sure they would do something like fine dwarf-crafted arms (haha) or weapon attachments or something, and with the arm and anchor being gone it'd be easy to start the character at a low level. If done well and sensitively, it would be badass. I know some people hate the arm being gone, but I doubt that would be that much of an issue if they want to use magic or a prosthetic.

 

Honestly? I think they'd go with disabled protagonist just out of their sheer love for Mad Max: Fury Road and the awesomeness that is Furiosa - who... just happens to lack her left hand... cut in apparently the same spot Inky's hand is... And she has a pretty awesome/functional prosthetic made out of not really that technologically advanced parts...

 

I've seen many devs gush over this movie for months now, and I think that if they've had any doubts about bringing disabled protagonist, that movie might have convinced them that this is a route they should likely take.

 

Besides... we already know that they planned to bring a disabled character to DAI. Initially Iron Bull was supposed to lack his left hand and wield a bad ass artificial arm. They even went as far as 3D modelling and it seems that portions of his left arm cop are actually parts of his re-designed prosthetic!

 

Spoiler

More at: http://coelasquid.tu...cept-art-in-the

 

I assume they didn't go with, because it was too difficult to realize that concept back at the time when they've had to re-adjust and simplify many aspects of the game for old-gen to be able to run it - but since they're done with old consoles, tackled Frostbite (which is being developed further with MEA) and have many things figured out on technical or conceptual level, as long as they're given a green light and good funds, there's really not much that can stop them, IMO.

[flabbadence]

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