Judging by the poll results so far bioware is going to have a hard decision to make. I am surprised by the percentage of people who will be happy with the cameo option.
Well, if you add the two options which allow Quizzy to return as a fully-developed character (ie. Quizzy only and dual PC), the majority seems to favor a full return! 
...Go Team Optimism!!! 
THE WAY YOU WROTE THREE EYES OH MY GOD?!!!!
I love Three-Eyes. He has like five lines in the game, but those lines bring the swag. I'm glad you liked him 
I suppose a lot of people who don't feel the emotionnal attachment to Solas Solavellan fans feel believe the Inquisitor's story to be mostly over?
Probably. It was the same with Warden and Hawke. Some people got really attached to those characters, and others didn't.
Rogue flirt is in here
This is my favorite one.
My favorite one too. *Always plays a rogue*
I suppose a lot of people who don't feel the emotionnal attachment to Solas Solavellan fans feel believe the Inquisitor's story to be mostly over?
The funny part is I want my Adaar to confront him more than I do my Lavellan. Adaar's completely screwed up over this, and would go to her dying breath to beat some answers and additional options out of Solas. The romance story for Lavellan and Solas might not be over, and that's it's own thing, but how can you not want to deal with Solas with the character that knew him? If it's just a case that they hated him and never talked to him and can knife him as any character, that's sad. For them. They're missing out on an incredible story.
It's not that I'm attached to the Inquisitor, necessarily, but the longer spanning story arc of "WTF, Solas." 
My favorite one too. *Always plays a rogue*
I always played a mage as my canon PC. Then DA:I rolled around, I saw the trailer and the Conclave and the crazy green hand, and I thought, "You know what? I'ma play a rogue first and try to make her as normal of a person as I can. Her life can't be MORE weird than Hawke's!"
...yeah. I succeeded in playing a rogue...and that's about it. Stupid Wolf 
BTW I had a dream last night in which a wolf was fighting a lion and a bunch of people were watching and gasping. I can't tell if it's biology or DAI related But since I was so jealous of everyone's awesome Solas dreams, I think it's DAI related. It was Solas and Cullen, who could somehow shapeshift. (Maybe he acquired the ability when the Veil fell?)
BTW I had a dream last night in which a wolf was fighting a lion and a bunch of people were watching and gasping. I can't tell if it's biology or DAI related
Oh, Cullen. I'm sorry, but Cullen is not a lion, helmet or no. He's a puppy. A big, slobbery, adorkable puppy 
I suppose a lot of people who don't feel the emotionnal attachment to Solas Solavellan fans feel believe the Inquisitor's story to be mostly over?
Could be?
I just thought that even people who hate Solas would want the Inquisitor to confront him, he did take their arm and betrayed them personally.
More than my attachment*** to Solas, I feel the story would really suffer if some protagonist who isn't emotionally invested would try to redeem or kill Solas, stop him in general - yes, if they know about his plans, a reasonable person would like to stop him, but without the Inquisitor the confrontation scene will lack because the new protagonist will be pretty detached.
Plus, how could you redeem him if the Inquisitor is not in the picture? How could some new no-name could ever affect Solas?
"Hey, are you Solas?"
"Yes, who is asking?"
"Nobody of importance, the Inquisitor says hi, and asks that you stop. I personally think you should die because I don't care about you and think your plan is horrible"
Edit: Stupid auto-correct turning attachment to detachment.
Modifié par Shari'El, 24 septembre 2015 - 06:41 .
More than my detachment to Solas, I feel the story would really suffer if some protagonist who isn't emotionally invested would try to redeem or kill Solas, stop him in general - yes, if they know about his plans, a reasonable person would like to stop him, but without the Inquisitor the confrontation scene will lack because the new protagonist will be pretty detached.
Plus, how could you redeem him if the Inquisitor is not in the picture? How could some new no-name could ever affect Solas?
That would be the lowest blow ever, especially to romanced Lavellans.
"Let me help you, Solas!" Or, "I'll stop you! Please don't do this!"
"I can't do that, vhenan! But I love you and will totally remember you as I go ahead with this horrible seeming plan to end the world."
New schlub: "Your plan sucks, dude. Quit it."
Solas: "You're right, random new person who can't possibly know me as well as the gremlin I loved/befriended. I will desist in my plan and settle down to farm carrots."
...Right. No.
We'll see. Fandom feedback is certainly something that the developers take into account, but ultimately, it's about what story they want to tell, and how many resources they have to tell it. And so far, the story that Patrick Weekes has told is pretty damn good
That would be the lowest blow ever, especially to romanced Lavellans.
"Let me help you, Solas!" Or, "I'll stop you! Please don't do this!"
"I can't do that, vhenan! But I love you and will totally remember you as I go ahead with this horrible seeming plan to end the world."
New schlub: "Your plan sucks, dude. Quit it."
Solas: "You're right, random new person who can't possibly know me as well as the gremlin I loved/befriended. I will desist in my plan and settle down to farm carrots."
...Right. No.
Totally agree. But I could see how someone that actually never got into the game enough to be emotionally invested could think ti's not important. Story-wise though, it would be such poor form and frankly wouldn't make much sense. Hopefully, Weekes and co are better writers than that
The funny part is I want my Adaar to confront him more than I do my Lavellan. Adaar's completely screwed up over this, and would go to her dying breath to beat some answers and additional options out of Solas. The romance story for Lavellan and Solas might not be over, and that's it's own thing, but how can you not want to deal with Solas with the character that knew him? If it's just a case that they hated him and never talked to him and can knife him as any character, that's sad. For them. They're missing out on an incredible story.
It's not that I'm attached to the Inquisitor, necessarily, but the longer spanning story arc of "WTF, Solas."
I want my non Solas romancer to confront him more than my romanced one as well. Dealing with Solas goes way beyond just romantic intentions for me.
I still can't get my head around just how many people think that in the Inquisitor is totally useless now they have lost an arm. As if there has never been a videogame character with an artificial limb before. I CAN NAME SEVERAL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FFS.
And sure, a lot of those games are more Sci-fi and therefore have the tech for these things, but I feel like these people are forgetting that this isn't a 'true to history' medieval game. It's fantasy. If they can build Golems then my Inquisitor can get a new arm and not just the crossbow one. I'm pretty sure Bianca owes my Inquisitor her soul. If she really is 'ten times the smith that Branka was' then she can prove it.
I'm part of the Dual Protagonist vote. I love my Quizzies and desperately want them to play a part in dealing with Solas. But if we are playing a game in Tevinter, I want to play a Tevinter-born character. So goodbye to my Dalish elf heroes - But I want to play as someone from the area. In that fab Tevinter gear. I may also try to not play as an elf.
I'm sure I can do it.
... 
I'm pretty sure Dorian would be mad if his beau is hanging round Minrathous after he told him to not as well. It'd be cool if there was something like the War Table again where you could switch from say, inside the city where your DA4 protagonist is to the outskirts somewhere and that would switch you over to your Inquisitor.
Oh, or a Tavern! A Tavern in a remote location! You'd go sit down at the table as one character and the other would be sitting opposite, you can then select between the two and the camera would swing round to that one and they'd give a nod and get up, then boom. You're in control to go off. Certain characters can only go to certain locations. Maybe.
I've played a few games with multiple protagonists and it's something I quite like.
My favorite one too. *Always plays a rogue*
My first/canon playthroughs are always as a dual-wield rogue.
Maybe, just maybeeee
People don't care about narrative and storytelling?
I think we are a minority in this community.
I also think the writers of Bioware like to tell meaningful stories with parallels, circles, conflicts and resolutions...
Most of that content is ignored by the majority of the players, but it still exists, so I'm not that concerned. I trust Weekes, he is really good at telling stories.
I can't help myself from being a bit bummed out about the poll though, the longer it's active the more "new protagonist" votes there are.
Totally agree. But I could see how someone that actually never got into the game enough to be emotionally invested could think ti's not important. Story-wise though, it would be such poor form and frankly wouldn't make much sense. Hopefully, Weekes and co are better writers than that
If they're that not-invested in it that it's so unimportant to them, then they probably have no real concern for what character they play and could go along with the Inquisitor being brought back just the same.
I trust the writers and their ability to pull off whatever the story needs, but it would still be strange to have the character that Solas interacted with be on the sidelines while some noob works against him. Or for him. Either way. I don't care if someone wants to smooch Solas or murderknife him, that character should have the helm when we see Solas again.
I mean... I guess it's also possible we may never see him again. Maybe DA4 starts with the Veil already dropped or something, and a bigger problem to initially solve than who did it.
I can't help myself from being a bit bummed out about the poll though, the longer it's active the more "new protagonist" votes there are.
It's the Internet. I no longer feel disappointment toward the Internet. Just a vague, echoing feeling where disappointment might once have lived. Then I fill that tiny void with cat videos
Like I said, fan feedback is only a component of the decisions about the next game. And thank God too. If they listened to us primarily, the games would suck.
Maybe, just maybeeee
People don't care about narrative and storytelling?
I think we are a minority in this community.
I also think the writers of Bioware like to tell meaningful stories with parallels, circles, conflicts and resolutions...
Most of that content is ignored by the majority of the players, but it still exists, so I'm not that concerned. I trust Weekes, he is really good at telling stories.
I can't help myself from being a bit bummed out about the poll though, the longer it's active the more "new protagonist" votes there are.
Considering that only small percent of gamers who buy games finished them (and I don' mean big ROGs) - yeah, it's probable most people don't care about storytelling. But that would also mean that they shouldn't' care who they're playing with, as long as there are nice views and cool fights I guess - which should mean that the devs could create a meaningful story for those who care, if they include enough of those who don't with shiny things they can get distracted with ;D
I love Three-Eyes. He has like five lines in the game, but those lines bring the swag. I'm glad you liked him
T_T. I just finished reading the story. Gah. I am emotionally compromised. As per usual now I guess but, that was an amazing journey, thank you T_T
It's the Internet. I no longer feel disappointment toward the Internet. Just a vague, echoing feeling where disappointment might once have lived. Then I fill that tiny void with cat videos
Like I said, fan feedback is only a component of the decisions about the next game. And thank God too. If they listened to us primarily, the games would suck.
Yeah, I remember once a fan told Gaider that in their internal pool most people (from DA FB fanpage, I think) want to see HOF back - he said that's mostly inconclusive data, or something of the like.
I still can't get my head around just how many people think that in the Inquisitor is totally useless now they have lost an arm. As if there has never been a videogame character with an artificial limb before. I CAN NAME SEVERAL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FFS.
And sure, a lot of those games are more Sci-fi and therefore have the tech for these things, but I feel like these people are forgetting that this isn't a 'true to history' medieval game. It's fantasy. If they can build Golems then my Inquisitor can get a new arm and not just the crossbow one. I'm pretty sure Bianca owes my Inquisitor her soul. If she really is 'ten times the smith that Branka was' then she can prove it.
The entire disabled angle? Great gameplay material.
If they can think of something creative, it would be as awesome as having the anchor, it's really nice to have that little extra something that separates the main character from the rest of the cast.
Two weeks ago I thought how awesome it would be to have a sword/hook/shield/crossbow/monk-like-glove arm with the ability to upgrade it like Varric's crossbow.
Things like runes that allow extra interesting runes as well as the ability to switch a hand? Ah god, so awesome.
Having one less arm shouldn't disqualify someone as a potential protagonist, it's just.. kinda sad.
Also, I'll admit I'm a Mad Max fangirl, Furiosa
Considering that only small percent of gamers who buy games finished them (and I don' mean big ROGs) - yeah, it's probable most people don't care about storytelling. But that would also mean that they shouldn't' care who they're playing with, as long as there are nice views and cool fights I guess - which should mean that the devs could create a meaningful story for those who care, if they include enough of those who don't with shiny things they can get distracted with ;D
I love how hopeful we're being right now 
. Though I suppose we need to be. This is the Solas thread after all hahaha
Me too. It just makes no sense that someone with no personal stake in this would be the one to resolve it! As someone posted in another thread, it would be like Darth Vader cutting Luke's hand off and doing the whole 'I am your father' spiel and then Lando turning up to finish the job in Return of the Jedi. Or Howe killing a HN's family in Origins, then Hawke taking him down in DA2. UGH. NO NARRATIVE SENSE.
All Bioware's best antagonists are ones where there's a personal thing going on - whether it's Master Li, Jon Irenicus, Howe/Loghain, even Revan fits into this - and here they are setting Solas up to be the best damn personal antagonist EVER, only for people to want random Tevinter dude who's never even met him to face him down. It saddens me
I've been watching the poll and swearing so hard lol.
Good for you if you have your Inquisitors story all tied up neatly.. but not all of us do...
I love how hopeful we're being right now
I walked away from Trespasser feeling mostly hopeful. I was expecting bittersweet but I wasn't expecting that big sense of hope.
I can't help thinking that what Solas did to Flemeth was basically this.
And he really got a power boost from that.
So I wish I had the artistic skills to draw Solas chanting to himself "I CAN WIN! I FEEL GREAT! I. CAN. DO. THIS."
Oh god, DBZ and their love for overly long sequences.
That was like almost a minute of flashing blue light and "nghhhhhh nghhh"
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