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[Illyria]

why THE **** am I reading art school AU of bog king and fairy princess from that stupid movie HWATSHAKHU

 

Never change, Solas.

 

Everybody forgets Shale.  My glorious Shale

 

At least Shale gets a mention in the Keep.  More than Sigrun gets.

[ChuChu]

 

Because much like my ex and that girl who didn't care that he existed, people just don't know how to move on.

 

 

 

Hm... I like the idea of Dagna teaming up with Bianca to invent a runed prosthetic. No more farfetched than Shepard being resurrected with science.

 

Though if the Inquisitor does return there'd have to be two (or three) different starting points. Inquisition continues, is disbanded, or is disbanded and he/she is now a Red Jenny. It'd be like returning to the Warden story quest lines in a way. 

 

Dagna, Bianca, and Sandal... THEY WILL CREATE PROSTHETICS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
 

The more I think about it, the more I think dual protagonist is the way to go.  It doesn't have to be evenly weighted either.  Maybe you play as the new PC for 65% of the game and quizzy for 35% or whatever.  

 

And I personally get more out of the RP experience by having another protagonist in the mix, which is why I think I've come to appreciate DA so much more as a setting than Mass Effect.  I learn to see the world and its issues through multiple characters' eyes, and that makes the whole game experience richer for me.  

I haven't played... many (any?) games with dual protags, so that's why I'm hesitant. I'm sure I'm just being unimaginative, though. But that's why I voted full blown Inquisitor. xD

[midnight tea]

Uhhh, I didn't expect these poll results. Sorry for stressing you guys out! *Hides in blanket fort.*

 

LOL, I'm actually surprised that they're still relatively even. 30% for new protag, but Quizzy 25 % as NPC and 25% as secondary protag still takes 50% of the cake - 70% if we count in Inquisitor as main PC.

 

So yeah, if you look at it that way, it's actually a pretty resounding YES for Quizzy to appear in the game in one way or another (even though I do still personally hope for way more than what they've had in store for Hake in DAI).

[Sable Rhapsody]

BUT IT'S NEVER A BAD TIME TO REMEMBER HER!

 

*sulks off grumbling*

 

The pigeons would remember her, but they are all dead.

 

 

I haven't played... many (any?) games with dual protags, so that's why I'm hesitant. I'm sure I'm just being unimaginative, though. But that's why I voted full blown Inquisitor. xD

 

The only one I've played was Divinity: Original Sin and it was honestly a little clunky in that game because it was meant to be multiplayer, with one person controlling each PC.  But it seems to have worked fine in Witcher 3 and the new GTA.

[Cee]

I think I'm buying that for my friend.  Who is the first work friend I've ever made.  The reason: Dragon Age Inquisition.  

 

Me: Oh this book...it's just a book of lore for a video game I play. *expects her to instantly lose interest at the word video game*

Her: *Perks Up* Which game?

Me: *Assumes as normal that if they ask about video games they will only be familiar with more popular ones* "Oh...Dragon Age"

Her: "I love Dragon Age!"

Me: *OMG I Love You, you're my new best friend....act cool* "It's my favorite" *proceeds to nerd out*

 

Best Friend Ever = All thanks to Dragon Age

 

Those are the best moments.
 

[Cee]

Hm... I like the idea of Dagna teaming up with Bianca to invent a runed prosthetic. No more farfetched than Shepard being resurrected with science.

 

Though if the Inquisitor does return there'd have to be two (or three) different starting points. Inquisition continues, is disbanded, or is disbanded and he/she is now a Red Jenny. It'd be like returning to the Warden story quest lines in a way. 

I think just disband and didn't disband will be the choices.

 

I'm planning to have Varric ask Bianca to help, Dagna to assist, and Nirwen's brother wants to help as well. Ro is only 17 but she took him back to Skyhold during the time in between and apprenticed him to the armorer to learn human techniques.

[Arshes Nei]

Since the Keep and tiles was mentioned im of the opinion they won't update or touch that thing until there is an announcement of the next DA and maybe a week or so before the actual release they will input more tiles/update them. What better way to keep the "SPOILERS" and secrecy going then to leave it alone? Until then the theory crafters and fans can go nuts without giving anything away .

 

*To the theory crafters, hats off to you guys. Some are super in depth and very intriguing. To have done that amout of data mining and shifting through codexs to put little, almost inconspicuous, tidbits together is awesome.

[S.W.]

On this poll: was it conducted privately? If not, wonder if it's too late to chip in.
 

The moment we get a Sigrun and Velanna pannel in the Keep I will be very happy.
 
Honestly, Velanna is one of the biggests reason for keeping the Architect alive.

 
Sigrun and Velanna are my favourites, and probably the closest and best of friends for pretty much all of my elven wardens. I imagine their relationships with the Awakening squad actually to be far closer given that they've worked with each other for years, and not just gone their separate ways once the world-ending threat was dealt with. I kept thinking about Sigrun in Descent - I imagine the three way banter between Valta, Sigrun, and Renn would be priceless. And I can imagine my warden bringing Velanna into the shattered library and her just breaking down into tears (the happy kind) - this was all the history she spent her life searching for.
 
Velanna is probably the only reason I keep the Architect alive, heh.

[Cee]

The moment we get a Sigrun and Velanna pannel in the Keep I will be very happy.

 

Honestly, Velanna is one of the biggests reason for keeping the Architect alive.

 

I did just that and Velanna was part of the reason. I didn't expect them to just drop her without a single word. I hope that changes. Hell, they're addressing obscure loose ends like the Leliana lyrium ghost.
 

[BoscoBread]

 

 

Dagna, Bianca, and Sandal... THEY WILL CREATE PROSTHETICS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
 

I haven't played... many (any?) games with dual protags, so that's why I'm hesitant. I'm sure I'm just being unimaginative, though. But that's why I voted full blown Inquisitor. xD

GTA.  Works totally fine. As much as I will mock GTAV for how gross it is sometimes, the stories of the 3 protags. worked really well.

 

TW3 just did it. You primarly played as Geralt but the scenes with Ciri were really great(FIGHT ME MOONDRUMMER)

[Eivuwan]

How long does it take the strawpoll to deactivate? I am thinking of posting the poll again on this thread over the weekend when there might be more solas fans available.

[Eivuwan]

On this poll: was it conducted privately? If not, wonder if it's too late to chip in.
 
 
Sigrun and Velanna are my favourites, and probably the closest and best of friends for pretty much all of my elven wardens. I imagine their relationships with the Awakening squad actually to be far closer given that they've worked with each other for years, and not just gone their separate ways once the world-ending threat was dealt with. I kept thinking about Sigrun in Descent - I imagine the three way banter between Valta, Sigrun, and Renn would be priceless. And I can imagine my warden bringing Velanna into the shattered library and her just breaking down into tears (the happy kind) - this was all the history she spent her life searching for.
 
Velanna is probably the only reason I keep the Architect alive, heh.

 

There's a private option for the poll? The strawpoll website is so simple. I just kind of made one. I don't even know how to deactivate it or modify it if I wanted to.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Velanna is probably the only reason I keep the Architect alive, heh.

 

I kept him because I had a sneaking suspicion he might be an ancient magister, and I wanted to see how that would pan out.  WOT 2 has vindicated my bizarre hunch, and for that alone I am happy

 

GTA.  Works totally fine. As much as I will mock GTAV for how gross it is sometimes, the stories of the 3 protags. worked really well.

 

TW3 just did it. You primarly played as Geralt but the scenes with Ciri were really great(FIGHT ME MOONDRUMMER)

 

And Heavy Rain, actually.  I forgot about that one.  You don't have complete control over all four protagonists because SPOILERS but for the most part, the stories interweaved nicely.  Although they did have to use plot armor at certain points for the story to make sense.

[Cee]

The more I think about it, the more I think dual protagonist is the way to go.  It doesn't have to be evenly weighted either.  Maybe you play as the new PC for 65% of the game and quizzy for 35% or whatever.  

 

And I personally get more out of the RP experience by having another protagonist in the mix, which is why I think I've come to appreciate DA so much more as a setting than Mass Effect.  I learn to see the world and its issues through multiple characters' eyes, and that makes the whole game experience richer for me.  

 

The more I think about the dual protagonist idea, the more I dislike it and want a continuation. I'd rather not have my feelings split among two protagonists and have to go through separate parts and not know when you get control of one versus another. It would have to be extremely well done and not feel 'divided' in some sense for me to want this.

 

I would like a direct sequel, in essence.

[S.W.]

There's a private option for the poll? The strawpoll website is so simple. I just kind of made one. I don't even know how to deactivate it or modify it if I wanted to.

The poll's done by straw poll? Great, I'll go an vote in it then.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I wonder if they'll ever release metrics for the Keep?  I want to see how many people had qun Bull vs. Tal-Vashoth, tried to redeem Solas, etc.

[Jaderail]

The poll's done by straw poll? Great, I'll go an vote in it then.

 

I think this is the poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/5569513

[Oswin]

Everybody forgets Shale.  My glorious Shale

 

What the hell even happens to Shale? She shows up to help Wynne and then, nothing.

Wasn't she going to go to Tevinter so see about a cure?

 

Cured Shale for cameo!?

 

 

The thing about having a game in the North that I'm excited about, is a whole new cast. As much as I love my DA characters from the 3 games - there better be a BLOODY good reason why they show up in DA4 or I won't be happy. Tevinter cares little about the South, and there aren't many who would happily go for a holiday there. So DAO cast? Only a Sten -> Arishok and possibly Shale would have reason to be up there. DA2? Fenris would have reason. No one else. DAI? Dorian. That's it.

I know it won't be a popular opinion but that's just how I feel. We aren't in the South anymore so the writers shouldn't have to worry about your choices from DAO and DA2. Who cares who rules Fereldan, Orlais or Orzammar. Not relevant in the GREAT IMPERIUM. The Mage/Templar war? Not relevant in Tevinter. Kirkwall? Nope. 

For two games the only thing we really heard about Tevinter was 'Slave Trade!' and that was it. Dorian came along in DAI with Calpy and the Venetori to bring a bit more information but still not a great amount. I want that same attitude when we are in Tevinter. 

 

 

 

 

 

I haven't played... many (any?) games with dual protags, so that's why I'm hesitant. I'm sure I'm just being unimaginative, though. But that's why I voted full blown Inquisitor. xD

 

I've played a couple that have switches in Protags. 

Assassins Creed series had the switches between past a present with Desmond/Altair/Ezio and Random dude/Edward.

Tales of Xillia has two different leads and you see different parts of the story depending on who you play

Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep and Dream Drop Distance both involve switching between multiple protagonists

The Witcher 3 has it a bit with Geralt and Ciri. I suck at playing as Ciri 

Jet Force Gemini! One of my favourites from the N64 had you switching between Dude, his sister and their dog. Damn that game was a pain in the ass. Still love it.

GTAV

I will throw in Borderlands here, because while they may be kinda characterless drones when you play them, they became rounded characters when the four of them show up in Borderlands 2

That bit in FF7 where you play as Cid for a bit.. 

 

I could be here all night thinking through my games collection. But yeah, I've played a few with multiple protagonists and it is something I have liked.

[S.W.]

The more I think about the dual protagonist idea, the more I dislike it and want a continuation. I'd rather not have my feelings split among two protagonists and have to go through separate parts and not know when you get control of one versus another. It would have to be extremely well done and not feel 'divided' in some sense for me to want this.
 
I would like a direct sequel, in essence.

I imagine the best way of doing it would be to split up the story into concrete chapters - similar to how DA2 has a three act structure which worked fairly well. Much as you would switch between PoVs in a book between chapters, you'd do the same in the game. Once you progress to a certain point in the main plot, you'd move onto the next chapter.

I imagine that way, it'd be less messy, and you wouldn't feel like you're being catapulted between characters without much rhyme or reason.

[AutumnOracle]

I wonder if they'll ever release metrics for the Keep?  I want to see how many people had qun Bull vs. Tal-Vashoth, tried to redeem Solas, etc.

 

This I want this.  Actually I wanted it in game too like the Walking Dead game.  It's interesting even if you wouldn't change your choices to see what the other choices were.

[S.W.]

I think this is the poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/5569513

Thanks!

[Sable Rhapsody]

This I want this.  Actually I wanted it in game too like the Walking Dead game.  It's interesting even if you wouldn't change your choices to see what the other choices were.

 

The metrics for Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishments were really interesting.  Most people solved the cases, but there were often splits on how to resolve them.  

 

In Solas-related news, I have now managed to undo all the Solas approval I got for Adaar exiling the Wardens by 1) Tranquilling Erimond 2) humanizing Cole and 3) telling Ser Ruth that she's forgiven in Andraste's name.  Sorry, Solas.  I'll go find some artifacts for you so that you can destroy the world more easily in the future 

[midnight tea]

The more I think about the dual protagonist idea, the more I dislike it and want a continuation. I'd rather not have my feelings split among two protagonists and have to go through separate parts and not know when you get control of one versus another. It would have to be extremely well done and not feel 'divided' in some sense for me to want this.

 

I would like a direct sequel, in essence.

 

We may probably think a bit differently after time dulls the desire to see where the story goes RIGHT NOW! AND ASAP! (uh, the thought of having to wait for a new DA chapter over next 2-3 years is hurtful indeed...), which is why I think the dual protagonist is likely the optimal solution - enough "new" for those who want new or start fresh, and enough of "old" to keep those who's been with the franchise longer happy.

 

The rest will depend more of how the story is told - I mean, I have no problem continuing to be invested in "A Song Of Ice And Fire", for example, despite the books switching POVs each chapter. I wasn't bothered with it in Witcher as well (in fact, I'd like to see more of that). Which is probably why, me personally at least, shouldn't be bothered with being invested in two characters, so long as the way their stories intertwine and resonate with one another well.

 

I also think it would be a fantastic way to "expand" the story. So far we're tightly locked to one person's perspective - nothing in the game seemed to have happened beyond Inquisitor's earshot, or we have to hear other stories through codexes or NPCs telling us stuff. That way, part of the story can be relegated to a new POV, opening entirely new venues of storytelling to the franchise.

[BoscoBread]

A lot of JRPG's actually you play as multiple protags and old school point and clicks:

 

Suikoden - Which is considered one of the pillars of the genre

Saga 

Banner Saga

The dreamfall games - same thing as broken sword

the brokensword games - YOU ALWAYS switched between the perspectives of the 2 main protags and they were usually separated physically and they went through different adventures

FF6

 

BEEF UP YOUR GAME LIBRARIES!

[Cee]

The metrics for Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishments were really interesting.  Most people solved the cases, but there were often splits on how to resolve them.  

 

 

 

I like the ones for Life is Strange too. I don't really change much but a few of them alerted me to possibilities I missed. I've only gone back to change two very minor things based on that info. Mostly, I just look to see what people do.