now you need to write a scene where daddy lavellan will be staring at his vallaslinless face XD
It could always be worse. Some pesky, immature youths could follow her around, howling like wolves and mocking her about the whole thing.
(even mine, despite usually being diplomatic or dealing with conflict usually with wit and snark would probably promptly turn them into temporary ice statues if they tried that...)
^ This is true.
That said, I think my own Lavellan, who spent so long being devoted to her clan, is a little wary that if she doesn't reveal the truth in a sensitive enough way, they'll call her a disgrace and send her into exile. I can't imagine they were that thrilled about one of their own being made a symbol of the organisation which destroyed the dales in the first place - the dread wolf stuff may simply be too much. The thing she needs most now is emotional support - her family rejecting her during her time of need will not help.
I remember that dalish elf you can pick up in the Exalted Plains says that some of the Dalish think that this might end up being a good thing and bring about change for their people. Also there are dalish elves in the Inquisition.
Where was the "Punch Solas" option
My Inky was so OOC in that scene for lack of "Punch Solas" option 
^ This is true.
That said, I think my own Lavellan, who spent so long being devoted to her clan, is a little wary that if she doesn't reveal the truth in a sensitive enough way, they'll call her a disgrace and send her into exile. I can't imagine they were that thrilled about one of their own being made a symbol of the organisation which destroyed the dales in the first place - the dread wolf stuff may simply be too much. The thing she needs most now is emotional support - her family rejecting her during her time of need will not help.
Mine isn't even going to her family or her Keeper first. She's going to Nehn and Halina (Nehn's wife/partner and the clan First) and they will all go to the Keeper together along with Nirwen's family (her brother came home with her since he was apprenticed to the Inquisition, and he already knows and is supportive).
Mine isn't even going to her family or her Keeper first. She's going to Nehn and Halina (Nehn's wife/partner and the clan First) and they will all go to the Keeper together along with Nirwen's family (her brother came home with her since he was apprenticed to the Inquisition, and he already knows and is supportive).
Halina... LOL, that's my mom's name 
I think after Trespasser, what Clan Lavellan approves of is the least of her worries
Lavellan has so many weird, insane, apocalyptic problems that all of her normal ones kind of fall by the wayside.
Yeah....you gotta imagine any Inquisitor's face if someone near them complains about really trivial things now. Especially a Lavellan.
Random person in Vall Royeaux : I can't believe the shoemaker put in jade instead of sapphire! I specifically asked for sapphire!!!
Lavellan:
Halina... LOL, that's my mom's name
Well that is an amusing coincidence. 
I think after Trespasser, what Clan Lavellan approves of is the least of her worries
Lavellan has so many weird, insane, apocalyptic problems that all of her normal ones kind of fall by the wayside.
Yeah I'd be like:
"YOU CAN GET ON THE CRAZY TRAIN OR DIE. SERIOUSLY. THIS ISN'T A HYPERBOLE. YOU ARE GOING TO DIE."
Now that we're talking about parents, I think my quizz's dad would be on board with Lavellan + Iron Bull. I keep thinking that they would bond over the best way to kill someone and they both have a more casualness about them. So long as this didn't mean that Lavellan would go off and join the Qun, he'd be okay with it. He'd proubebly jokingly complain, "But where would I get my grandchildren from?"
He's not so much of "We must adhere to the old ways kinda person" since he was a city elf. He'd be fine with Solas. The only thing he would judge is that "I didn't think would be into older men."
Even so, he would lose it if Lavellan would decide to get into a relationship with a human, since he's extremely racist towards them. Bad, bad past with them. He would be like, "Get away from my daughter before I stab you." Or be nice at first, but while they are playing around, he slips poison into their drink. Later when Lavellan finds them dead and confronts him, he'd shrug his shoulders and be like "Shem, you know, one minute their fine and the next their dead. Unpredictable aren't they."
now you need to write a scene where daddy lavellan will be staring at his vallaslinless face XD
OK, that was a serious challenge, but...
Daddy Lavellan: Solas, I understand you're not originally Dalish. But if you respect the old ways and have serious intentions for my daughter, you should take vallaslin.
*Solas opens his mouth to speak but Lavellan elbows him in the ribs... discreetly*
Lavellan: He can't do that, dad.
Daddy Lavellan: Why not?
Lavellan: He loves all the Gods so much... He can't just pick one.
*Solas' face becomes slightly more red and he tries to speak again, but Lavellan squeezes his arm.*
Lavellan: He's worried that if he picks just one, it would look like he favors that one. And he loves them equally. All of them. So much.
Daddy Lavellan: Hmmmm.....
Lavellan: No, dad, I'm serious. In fact, he loves them all SO much, he has a plan... To free them!
Daddy Lavellan: What?!
Lavellan: He is working on a spell to free them from the Beyond.
*Solas is getting furious.*
Daddy Lavellan: Young man, what just happened with your eyes?
Solas: Young man?!
*Lavellan elbows him again.*
Lavellan: He... has cataract. Minor problem, really. Also, not genetic.
Daddy Lavellan: *sigh* Look, da'len, you don't need to lie to me and tell me ridiculous stories about freeing the Gods. I get it.
Lavellan: You do?
Daddy Lavellan: He's too wimpy to get vallaslin, isn't he?
Lavellan: Well... Yes. He's really sensitive. I think if he tries to get vallaslin he would cry. Howl, even.
*Solas humphs, resigned.*
Daddy Lavellan: Well, he's not perfect, but at this point, I'm glad you found at least an elf. But I expect at least three grandchildren.
Lavellan: Oh, we'll have many children. Enough to rebuild the whole empire.
Daddy Lavellan: Good enough for me. All right, I'm off to bed. Pleasure to meet you, Solas.
Solas: Live well while time remains.
Lavellan: He means good night.
I figure my Lavellan's mother is dead, but her father is still alive, and if we leave the whole Dread Wolf thing aside her family's going to more or less be, "Welp. You're close to 40. You've had your babes, led your clan as a hunter, and became a central figure in a time of need for the whole of the world. You do you."
Because by now I expect they respect her and her ability to understand WTF is going on in general, and it would be not just a laugh, but an outright insult to suggest she doesn't have her s*it together even in the face of "I banged Fen'Harel (or a shem or a qunari...)" Concern and worry and asking valid questions is a whole different thing to treating Lavellan like she's a silly besotted girl.
OK, that was a serious challenge, but...
Daddy Lavellan: Solas, I understand you're not originally Dalish. But if you respect the old ways and have serious intentions for my daughter, you should take vallaslin.
*Solas opens his mouth to speak but Lavellan elbows him in the ribs... discreetly*
Lavellan: He can't do that, dad.
Daddy Lavellan: Why not?
Lavellan: He loves all the Gods so much... He can't just pick one.
*Solas' face becomes slightly more red and he tries to speak again, but Lavellan squeezes his arm.*
Lavellan: He's worried that if he picks just one, it would look like he favors that one. And he loves them equally. All of them. So much.
Daddy Lavellan: Hmmmm.....
Lavellan: No, dad, I'm serious. In fact, he loves them all SO much, he has a plan... To free them!
Daddy Lavellan: What?!
Lavellan: He is working on a spell to free them from the Beyond.
*Solas is getting furious.*
Daddy Lavellan: Young man, what just happened with your eyes?
Solas: Young man?!
*Lavellan elbows him again.*
Lavellan: He... has cataract. Minor problem, really. Also, not genetic.
Daddy Lavellan: *sigh* Look, da'len, you don't need to lie to me and tell me ridiculous stories about freeing the Gods. I get it.
Lavellan: You do?
Daddy Lavellan: He's too wimpy to get vallaslin, isn't he?
Lavellan: Well... Yes. He's really sensitive. I think if he tries to get vallaslin he would cry. Howl, even.
*Solas humphs, resigned.*
Daddy Lavellan: Well, he's not perfect, but at this point, I'm glad you found at least an elf. But I expect at least three grandchildren.
Lavellan: Oh, we'll have many grandchildren. Enough to rebuild the whole empire.
Daddy Lavellan: Good enough for me. All right, I'm off to bed. Pleasure to meet you, Solas.
Solas: Live well while time remains.
Lavellan: He means good night.
Lol.
My dad Lavellan: Well if he loves all the Creators so much, he can get their tattoos all over his body. One section of his body for each god. (including the butt)
My Lavellan's father is alive same with her younger brother. Her mother has been long dead.
My Lavellan is 30 by the time trespasser rolls around. They'd realistically be like 'okay...there's been so much change in your life as the Inquisitor and our life(they are now on the city council of Wycome) that we're just happy you're alive...and missing part of your arm. but that's ok."
My Lavellan's father is alive same with her younger brother. Her mother has been long dead.
My Lavellan is 30 by the time trespasser rolls around. They'd realistically be like 'okay...there's been so much change in your life as the Inquisitor and our life(they are now on the city council of Wycome) that we're just happy you're alive...and missing part of your arm. but that's ok."
Yes, most of if not all, but with dad adding "So you were taken by the dread wolf."
Lavellan: Dad, no, stop.
Unrelated to SOlas but totally related to self-promation and spooky tidings
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Unrelated to SOlas but totally related to self-promation and spooky tidings
I am streaming SOMA the new horror game. It is scary and there is blood. Just a warning.
I need to wait for Markiplier to play this. I love horror novels and stories, but I'm such a jumpy wuss about horror games that I can only watch Let's Plays. With the lights on. During the daytime.
My Lavellan is 30 by the time trespasser rolls around. They'd realistically be like 'okay...there's been so much change in your life as the Inquisitor and our life(they are now on the city council of Wycome) that we're just happy you're alive...and missing part of your arm. but that's ok."
Yeah, I think with everything that's happened, my Lavellan's family puts the whole Dread Wolf thing on the backburner. They're torn between being happy that she's alive, and worried sick that she's still caught up in the whole mess. I mean, she can only cheat death so many times before it catches up to her 
OMG, Solas and the orb
Also, can you imagine what the endgame would have looked like if the orb hadn't broken?
Lavellan: Yay, we saved the world!
Sky: *tears open again*
Glowy Solas: Yeah, about that...I've been meaning to tell you, this is all rather awkward...
Everyone else:
Well, sh*t.
I was thinking about what he would have done at some point, and after Trespasser, I think his first action would have been to remove the Anchor from the Inquisitor. Then he would have made off with the orb, given himself an Anchor, entered the Fade physically, and torn down the Veil.
But especially for romanced Inquisitor, removing the Anchor would come first.
I also wonder if his original plan was somewhat less apocalyptic than his new plan is. Of course even if it were just as terrible, his friend or romanced Inquisitor would be spared from the Anchor, before he did it. Because even if there's a good chance you won't survive what's to come, he'd still want to make sure you had at least some chance of survival.
"Apocalypse boyfriend" is one of the best terms ever coined for Solas. I was also reduced to fits of silly giggling when someone called Bull "50 Shades of Hissrad" in another thread.
I think sleep deprivation is catching up with me.
I thought "apocalyptic manpain" from the other day would have been a great band name.
True, but at least he's an elf and there is no one in the clan that met him and remembers him personally. At least if he met the clan for the first time and they didn't know he was the dread wolf then the introduction would have gone smoothly. Lavellan would be thinking, "I'll let them meet him first, then I'll tell everyone that he's our god of misfortune."
Seriouslly, Lavellan doesn't really have anyone she can take to meet her clan without any proublems. Josie is nice and respectful of the dalish, but she is still a shem, which is the same with Blackwall but he doesn't know any elven words to say to them. Also, him use to being part of the orlesian army would not go down well with them. Sera is an elf but she would instantly be a b**** to them so she would loose all browny points. Cassandra is pretty much the Chantry on display and Dorain is a proud vint. Really, the only person who would sit remotely well with them is Iron Bull. Iron Bull is the closest thing Lavellan's family will approve of.
I would disagree on Bull. I know everybody has their own interpretations and headcanons clan members being different, but the Qun is no more a friend of the Dalish than the Chantry is. Remember, the Qun "re-educates" people. That includes any Dalish elves they come across. Some Dalish might leave their clans to join the Qun willingly. Any threat to the clans is a threat to all of the Dalish. Even Tal-Vashoth Iron Bull would be suspect.
Basically there's no romance that a traditional Dalish clan would accept for a Dalish Inquisitor. You have a human diplomat, a Chantry Seeker, a Chantry templar, an Orlesian soldier (shades of chevaliers and their elf-slaying initiation ritual), a qunari spy, a city elf who hates all things elven, a Tevinter mage who has no apparent issue with slavery (because most of them are treated well! As if that matters when they are used for blood sacrifice, and are not treated as people...), and an apostate mage who thinks he knows your culture and its history better than anyone else (and he actually does, but your clan probably isn't going to accept that).
I would argue that although the Dalish normally wish to avoid Fen'harel, they do still honor him as a god. In that respect, Solas sort-of stands better chances of acceptance by the Dalish than anyone, but it would not be under terms Solas would like. He would either be shown fearful reverence, or he would be accepted as a leader to bring the elves into power/glory again (which appears to be his plan, except less for the elves and more for the Elvhen). Without the truth, though, he would only be marginally more acceptable than Sera--he's kind of rude as far as the Dalish are concerned, and he isn't marked by vallaslin. He might be acceptable as the father to a Lavellan's child, because elf and mage, but otherwise... not so much.
Edit: I think the dalish elf thing is probably more of an issue - tbh I'd struggle to RP a dalish character who was 100% committed to staying with their clan also dating a human. DA:I gives you plenty of reasons to leave that behind - your clan may die, or you may lose faith in your gods for plenty of valid reasons, or your distrust in human society may be proven wrong, so it's not like lavellans can't reasonably date anyone else (hell no, that's definitely not what I'm saying). It's just more difficult to get your head around it if you stay loyal. I imagine your clan at some point will have looked for long-term matches within their own clan or another in order to simply keep their numbers up - there's pressure not to romance anyone, I think, because reproduction is viewed as a necessity in order to keep their way of life alive.
Actually, romance is definitely a thing with Dalish clans. Maybe that is not the case in all clans--we're told repeatedly in various sources that every clan has its own customs and traditions. Some may be like the city elves, and use marriage as a rite of passage. Others may do arranged marriages where either you are sent outside of your clan, or an outsider is brought in.
The one example we have of Dalish getting together romantically was back in DA:O and it was definitely as much romance as ritual. Cammen and Gheyna were in love, but Cammen couldn't marry Gheyna until he proved himself as a hunter. Cammen and Gheyna were not being selectively arranged together for the sake of producing pointy eared babies--though that was likely an anticipated and welcomed side effect of it. They chose one another, and were only hindered by Cammen's inability to complete a hunter's courtship ritual. We also know now that Dalish must have marriage (I know that's been up for debate in this thread in the past) because there are Dalish wedding vows that the Inquisitor can use in a marriage with Cullen (who is surprisingly open-minded about it). Such vows would not exist if Dalish didn't have marriage--and I expect a Dalish elf might rebel against the idea of marriage at all if it were not part of their cultural ideology.
The exception to "you must have elf babies" might be for transgender individuals, or individuals who have proven to be sterile. Either way, children as a duty kind of stinks because not everyone wants, or is really mentally able, to have children. Better that children should be had because they are genuinely wanted. But that's not how Thedas works, not among elves and not among nobility. Maybe commoners have leeway? Eh. Getting sidetracked.
There may be pressure to not romance anyone within the Inquisition, or at least none of the Inquisitor's inner circle, depending upon how strict the Lavellan clan is. A lenient clan may accept your love for Sera or Solas, but with Sera, you're still expected to get with a man for the sole purpose of having little elf children if you intend to remain part of the clan--this is a duty of all Dalish (and it seems to be considered a duty by the city elves as well, considering marriage-as-a-rite-of-passage-to-adulthood). And for Solas, well, they might want his elf-babies (because mage, and Dreamer), but there's no guarantee the man himself would be welcome within the clan, even if they didn't ever know he is also Fen'harel. If they did, some might REALLY want his elf-babies in the clan, while others REALLY wouldn't. I mean, on the one hand, he's one of their deities. On the other, he's still Fen'harel.
Editing to add: A gay/lesbian elf having to sleep with someone because elf-babies would EXCEPTIONALLY suck. I am aware of this. But I don't remember if it's Weekes or Gaider who said it, but homosexual relationships are considered normal by the Dalish--but you are still expected to have kids. Makes you wonder how they actually manage that. Threesomes or something...?
I need to wait for Markiplier to play this. I love horror novels and stories, but I'm such a jumpy wuss about horror games that I can only watch Let's Plays. With the lights on. During the daytime.
Same, I keep buying horror video games and telling myself I'll play but I rarely do.
I was thinking about what he would have done at some point, and after Trespasser, I think his first action would have been to remove the Anchor from the Inquisitor. Then he would have made off with the orb, given himself an Anchor, entered the Fade physically, and torn down the Veil.
But especially for romanced Inquisitor, removing the Anchor would come first.
I also wonder if his original plan was somewhat less apocalyptic than his new plan is. Of course even if it were just as terrible, his friend or romanced Inquisitor would be spared from the Anchor, before he did it. Because even if there's a good chance you won't survive what's to come, he'd still want to make sure you had at least some chance of survival.
I don't think it was Quizzy can ask him what he would have done with the orb if Cory had died. The answer is the same: tear down the Veil, and as this world burns in the raw chaos, restore the world of the ancient elves. It might have been different in details with the orb vs. with Mythal's power, but I think the endpoint is still apocalypse.
I was thinking about what he would have done at some point, and after Trespasser, I think his first action would have been to remove the Anchor from the Inquisitor. Then he would have made off with the orb, given himself an Anchor, entered the Fade physically, and torn down the Veil.
But especially for romanced Inquisitor, removing the Anchor would come first.
I also wonder if his original plan was somewhat less apocalyptic than his new plan is. Of course even if it were just as terrible, his friend or romanced Inquisitor would be spared from the Anchor, before he did it. Because even if there's a good chance you won't survive what's to come, he'd still want to make sure you had at least some chance of survival.
I thought "apocalyptic manpain" from the other day would have been a great band name.
This is what I suspect as well. I can't remember the exact dialogue, but I remember Lavellan asking him what his plans were or something and he just calmly said something like "you will see" without any hint of guilt or bad feelings. But then the orb was destroyed and he was devastated. But I haven't played the main game in 9 months so I don't know if I'm making stuff up.
Editing to add: A gay/lesbian elf having to sleep with someone because elf-babies would EXCEPTIONALLY suck. I am aware of this. But I don't remember if it's Weekes or Gaider who said it, but homosexual relationships are considered normal by the Dalish--but you are still expected to have kids. Makes you wonder how they actually manage that. Threesomes or something...?
I actually posted tweets from Weekes the other day on the subject because it's central to my own Lavellan's story. She's bi and her first love is lesbian and there's a whole kind of subtle pressure. And they decide to go for it anyway. What Weekes clarified was there wasn't a specific term for elves who like same sex elves but the Dalish would disapprove over refusing to go forth and make babies', so there's cultural pressure but it's not a forced requirement or anything. Some people will just defy those expectations....and face potential consequences.
I don't think it was
Well, I did ask him that and yes, he did imply it would have more or less been horrible. But my question was whether it might have been less horrible than what he feels he has to do now, since he no longer has the orb.
I actually posted tweets from Weekes the other day on the subject because it's central to my own Lavellan's story. She's bi and her first love is lesbian and there's a whole kind of subtle pressure. And they decide to go for it anyway. What Weekes clarified was there wasn't a specific term for elves who like same sex elves but the Dalish would disapprove over refusing to go forth and make babies', so there's cultural pressure but it's not a forced requirement or anything. Some people will just defy those expectations....and face potential consequences.
For a great number of gay/lesbian elves I imagine it wouldn't even be possible to have children because they just... can't. Couldn't bring themselves to do it, without at least some attraction. So probably some do bow to societal pressure, and yet plenty don't. Some may even leave the clan over it. That would be sad.
So the only really acceptable romance option for FLavellan is Zevran, too bad he's not in the game.
For a great number of gay/lesbian elves I imagine it wouldn't even be possible to have children because they just... can't. Couldn't bring themselves to do it, without at least some attraction. So probably some do bow to societal pressure, and yet plenty don't. Some may even leave the clan over it. That would be sad.
Yeah, in the last fic I wrote, I explored a bit of their fears as teens who recognize they're in love, and how this clashes with expectations and including the fear of being kicked out. I basically made myself cry writing it.
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