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But if lyrium was supposed to hamper the ancient elves' connection to the Fade, how come it works differently now?

 

Does it though? A lyrium mark is how they brand a tranquil and the templars eventually suffer memory loss from it.

 

Dwarves are now resistant to it, and are sentient. But before the titans were put to sleep the Dwarves were a hive mind, and part of the lyrium's song.


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Does it though? A lyrium mark is how they brand a tranquil and the templars eventually suffer memory loss from it.

 

Mages take lyrium to supplement their mana too though. And it was only by taking large amounts of it or its equivalent of blood magic that we're able to save Connor in DAO.



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Well we know Falon'din was particulary interested in sacrificing..

 

Wait. I just remembered something.. Solas said, "the blood of those who wouldn't bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans". He said Falon'din wanted the worship, but I wonder if that meant the power from their blood? Hmm.

That was that Falon'Din mosaic inspired speech in Temple of Mythal. It was something about waging wars on purpose to gain more power or something like that... I need to replay that part or search video about it. Well searching video is likely to be a faster method.


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Dwarves are now resistant to it, and are sentient. But before the titans were put to sleep the Dwarves were a hive mind, and part of the lyrium's song.

 

And also, dwarves apparently had magic before, if we're going with Valta's change at the end of Descent.



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Mages take lyrium to supplement their mana too though. And it was only by taking large amounts of it or its equivalent of blood magic that we're able to save Connor in DAO.

 

Yes but it's bad for them. From the wiki:

 

According to Vivienne, anything that increases the capacity of a mage's magic (such as lyrium) creates a damaging effect on the body. For mages, this is known as mana imbalance. Some adverse effects of mana imbalance may include conscious dreaming in the Fade (such as those experienced during the Harrowing), periods of dizziness, and hearing voices.

 

The fact it lets mages enter the fade while fully aware might be something to note. I don't really know where I'm going with this anymore :lol:.


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That was that Falon'Din mosaic inspired speech in Temple of Mythal. It was something about waging wars on purpose to gain more power or something like that... I need to replay that part or search video about it. Well searching video is likely to be a faster method.

 

It was, there's a video with all the options and Solas' answers to it:

 

 

I just wondered if Falon'din was going to make use of the blood for power. But then, blood magic supposedly weakens one to the Fade.



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Yes but it's bad for them. From the wiki:

 

According to Vivienne, anything that increases the capacity of a mage's magic (such as lyrium) creates a damaging effect on the body. For mages, this is known as mana imbalance. Some adverse effects of mana imbalance may include conscious dreaming in the Fade (such as those experienced during the Harrowing), periods of dizziness, and hearing voices.

 

So lyrium is toxic, but it still supplements magic. Titans aren't of the Fade, but their blood still carries magic.

 

Argh. There has to be an explanation for this...


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So lyrium is toxic, but it still supplements magic. Titans aren't of the Fade, but their blood still carries magic.

 

Argh. There has to be an explanation for this...

 

I edited my post but I'll repost here:

 

The fact it lets mages enter the fade while fully aware might be something to note. I don't really know where I'm going with this anymore :lol:.



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It was, there's a video with all the options and Solas' answers to it:

 

 

I just wondered if Falon'din was going to make use of the blood for power. But then, blood magic supposedly weakens one to the Fade.

 

I've never heard all the dialogue options for this before.

 

Oh god it hurts.



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I edited my post but I'll repost here:

 

The fact it lets mages enter the fade while fully aware might be something to note. I don't really know where I'm going with this anymore :lol:.

 

I can feel a theory formulating in my head. I'll post it once it gets solid enough. Down to the wikia rabbit hole I go for now  :lol:


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It was, there's a video with all the options and Solas' answers to it:

 

Spoiler

 

I just wondered if Falon'din was going to make use of the blood for power. But then, blood magic supposedly weakens one to the Fade.

Thank you for that video... way much faster than replaying.

 

I think Evanuris discovered blood magic by accident and found it more powerful than their normal magic. Some of them might have been more willing than others to use it tough. Especially when they found out that connection to the Fade would weaken because of it.

 

I don't know anything, but I think it is safe to assume that Falon'Din wouldn't have let all that power to slip trough his fingers.



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It was, there's a video with all the options and Solas' answers to it:

 

 

I just wondered if Falon'din was going to make use of the blood for power. But then, blood magic supposedly weakens one to the Fade.

So basically the Flower Wars of the Aztecs, but legit.

After basically taking over Thedas and beating up the Titans, before humans entered the picture or the Forgotten Ones started to pick a fight or Solas kicked off his rebellion, they had a lack of enemies and a need for slaves/blood sacrifices. So it wouldn't strike me as odd if Falon'din and the rest picked fights with each other, little wars whose main purpose is to take captives for sacrifice. 



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I like the Dirthamen pic! Nice work.

 

I made a post of things I've noticed that are similar in the murals on Frank's lore thread, here:

 

PizQXmR.jpg

 

Orbs powered by vallaslin? Or that have control over them? Like the qamek thing I was talking about.

 

So, I just noticed this and don't know if it has already been mentioned... but the vallaslin of one of the elves (the one looking towards us) looks as if it belongs to Mythal. You can compare it to my Inky, hers lack the part on the chin but otherwise it looks the same:

 

Spoiler

 

I'm just curious... does this mean that Mythal did not support Solas goal of freeing the slaves, or merely that she had to do so very covertly and send her slaves to him rather than remove the vallaslin herself? I'm inclined to believe the latter, but it's still food for thought. Perhaps everything was so secret that even the Evanuris (with the exception of Mythal) did not know the identity of the Dread Wolf? And perhaps, as the organization grew, it suffered "the inevitable fate of betrayal and corruption", leading to Mythal's murder. That would explain his trust issues!

 

Sooo many questions!



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Found this video while searching youtube. This could have been shared before and be totally unrelated to topic, but...

 

If Inquisitor drinks from the Well of Sorrows you hear unintelligent mumbling. Surprise, surprise, there seems to be a hidden message. Video is inside spoilers to save space.

Spoiler


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I'm just curious... does this mean that Mythal did not support Solas goal of freeing the slaves, or merely that she had to do so very covertly and send her slaves to him rather than remove the vallaslin herself? I'm inclined to believe the latter, but it's still food for thought. Perhaps everything was so secret that even the Evanuris (with the exception of Mythal) did not know the identity of the Dread Wolf? And perhaps, as the organization grew, it suffered "the inevitable fate of betrayal and corruption", leading to Mythal's murder. That would explain his trust issues!

 

Might've been after she died that he removed it.


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Found this video while searching youtube. This could have been shared before and be totally unrelated to topic, but...
 
If Inquisitor drinks from the Well of Sorrows you hear unintelligent mumbling. Surprise, surprise, there seems to be a hidden message. Video is inside spoilers to save space.

Spoiler

 
Isn't it creepy? I don't know whether the mark received is a vallaslin or something else:
 
gvLDbnt.jpg

 

"Mythal speaks the calling" is the most interesting. What calling? Kieran said he had to go to her because she called to him. Maybe she even called his spirit (Urthemiel) to Morrigan during the dark ritual. And there's this in the deep roads:
 

I am empty, filled with nothing(?),
Mythal gives you dreams.
It fills you, within you(?),
Making our leaders proud.
My little stones,
Never yours the sun.
Forever, forever.


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Art post again. :P

Just to inform you, it's Solas/Solavellan Smut Saturday on Tumblr, but I guess it's better I not post those here because damn, there's a lot! ^__^;

 

15-year old Solas with his childhood pets! <3

 

A nice render of Lavellan and Solas kissing on the couch of the rotunda. (NSFW-ish because Lavellan is topless.)

 

Floofy Solas. :D

 

Sleepy Solas. (Slightly NSFW for nudity.)

 

DAI Emoji meme.

 

And Solas cosplay by Aicosu (Sylar)

 

 

EDIT: Top Solas!

 

Here's a lovely screenshot by solas-an.

 

Source: http://solas-an.tumb...st/129814150770

 

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Wow that render is pretty, how do people get them in such different poses? I <3 the Taiwanese's style too.



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I can't stop staring at that render... wth?


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I had a random thought...If the blight wasn't naturally occurring...what if Ghilan'nain or one of the Forgotten Ones genetically engineered it to use against the Titans. What if Ghilly created darkspawn and/or broodmothers to use against their enemies?

I ran across a disturbing description of the last damaged pages of "Grim Anatomy" in WOT2 pp. 275-276, I think...could these be her designs? I can write up an excerpt in the morning if anyone wants to check it out...

 

 

Yes please! I have half a mind to ask for WoT for Christmas.

Okay, here goes...It's actually pp. 276-277, WOT2:

 

The last pages of the Grim Anatomy are largely unreadable, torn, and singed. It's as if someone

attempted to destroy the book. What little can be made out speaks of rot and emptiness.

The accompanying diagrams are bizarre, no longer resembling the physiology of any known

animal but instead a mess of overlapping and interconnected geometric shapes.

 

Thoughts, anyone??? :unsure:


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I woke up, remembered last night, and I just wanted to say that this thread is unique and incredible. You people are the best.
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The one difference we know is mortal vs immortal, and we can use fDNA ( <3 ) and fadeplasts to explain this - it will have to relate to the function of the fadeplasts within the cell. 

 

Which can actually be really similar to the mitochondria.

 

I kiinda happen to be working on something related to aging and lifespan, and mitochondria are incredibly important for this. They prooduce energy, but they also seem to be related to immunity, apoptosis, and, very importantly, they generate a lot of reactive oxygen species, which damage the cell and accelerate aging.

 

So if you can use the fadeplasts to draw the essence of the fade and convert that to ATP, you bypass the requirement for mitochondria. There can be a regualtory pathway that senses this and significantly downgrades mitochondrial function in response. Very low mitohondrial function --> very low ROS --> very low damage to the cell. If they have repair and regeration pathways to compensate for the remaining minimal damage, they would be in pretty good shape.

 

This is very crude, it doesn't really cover telomeres, stem cells, the possibility for cancer, but it's a good start?

 

I thought about this very intensely a few months ago and headcanoned that that they have high levels of telomerase activity, but DNA repair mechanisms efficient enough to prevent these cells from becoming cancerous.

Then I read how elves don't work by genetics, cried a little inside, and formed a new theory.

It's the fade. It keeps their DNA clean and perfect.

In the case of mortal elves, I guess the fade connection is strong enough to keep their ears pointy, but not strong enough to polish their DNA (and other cell components)?

And the idea of fadeplasts as something to amplify fade's influence in the cell? Amazing.


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Okay, here goes...It's actually pp. 276-277, WOT2:

 

The last pages of the Grim Anatomy are largely unreadable, torn, and singed. It's as if someone

attempted to destroy the book. What little can be made out speaks of rot and emptiness.

The accompanying diagrams are bizarre, no longer resembling the physiology of any known

animal but instead a mess of overlapping and interconnected geometric shapes.

 

Thoughts, anyone??? :unsure:

 

2092758.jpg


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2092758.jpg

Perfect!!! :D



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Just a couple more artses to share

 

Trespasser Solas sitting and waiting

http://gudgurkan.dev...Solas-562580152

 

The Lovers Tarot Card (NSFW - nudity)

http://jezebeltruant...overs-562519174


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