All this love talk got me thinking.
What if Dumbledore and Solas had a conversation?
Solas: "I must save my people."
Dumbledore: "Lemondrop?"
Solas: "Wha-? No-"
Dumbledore: "I really think you need a lemondrop."
Solas: "I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY I HAVE TO KILL EVERYBODY-"
Dumbledore: "Ssssshhhhh." *puts two fingers to Solas's mouth in a suspiciously gay way* *All You Need is Love starts playing in the background* "Lemondrop."
(it's not supposed to make sense)
All this love talk got me thinking.
What if Dumbledore and Solas had a conversation?
Solas: "I must save my people."
Dumbledore: "Lemondrop?"
Solas: "Wha-? No-"
Dumbledore: "I really think you need a lemondrop."
Solas: "I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY I HAVE TO KILL EVERYBODY-"
Dumbledore: "Ssssshhhhh." *puts two fingers to Solas's mouth in a suspiciously gay way* *All You Need is Love starts playing in the background* "Lemondrop."
(it's not supposed to make sense)
Your mind is in a weird place right now Crusher, but we can work through this.
I do.
Okay, maybe not quite that syrupy.
I think for my Lavellan to be able to move forward with smoochy romance stuff, Solas really would have to make his choices and decisions for himself, and not based on a simple, "selfish" desire. It's kind of a mirror of how I expect he'd lose all respect and feeling for a Lavellan who'd be all, "Yep, let's burn the world vhenan! Then make sweet love in the ashes!" Maybe he really wouldn't, but I have a hard time imagining him being that okay with someone who cares so little for anyone else just for their own ends. He's an arsehole who might want to burn the world, but he's staring at it as a "for the good of my people" thing and not because "I want to bang Lavellan" thing. If that makes sense.
I think for my Lavellan to be able to move forward with smoochy romance stuff, Solas really would have to make his choices and decisions for himself, and not based on a simple, "selfish" desire. It's kind of a mirror of how I expect he'd lose all respect and feeling for a Lavellan who'd be all, "Yep, let's burn the world vhenan! Then make sweet love in the ashes!" Maybe he really wouldn't, but I have a hard time imagining him being that okay with someone who cares so little for anyone else just for their own ends. He's an arsehole who might want to burn the world, but he's staring at it as a "for the good of my people" thing and not because "I want to bang Lavellan" thing. If that makes sense.
No, it's very much how I view my Lavellan and their relationship too. I don't think either would be comfortable if they've abandoned someone (in that case: many, maaaany) in need purely for the sake of being together, the world be damned! - my Lavellan will try and stop Solas or try and search for alternate solutions, obviously, but even if she doesn't understand everything yet, she gets why he thinks he has to do this.
And anyways this is how I see a Dumbledore and Solas conversation going,
Solas, after explaining his plans: Do you plan to try to stop me Albus?
Dumbledore: Of course not! I've been manipulating a young human child to grow up before his time and face you in battle! He might die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to take!
Solas: ...and people wonder why I think this world is beyond saving.
Lemondrops are delicious... never even heard of them before I read the Harry Potter books.
All this love talk got me thinking.
What if Dumbledore and Solas had a conversation?
Solas: "I must save my people."
Dumbledore: "Lemondrop?"
Solas: "Wha-? No-"
Dumbledore: "I really think you need a lemondrop."
Solas: "I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY I HAVE TO KILL EVERYBODY-"
Dumbledore: "Ssssshhhhh." *puts two fingers to Solas's mouth in a suspiciously gay way* *All You Need is Love starts playing in the background* "Lemondrop."
(it's not supposed to make sense)
And anyways this is how I see a Dumbledore and Solas conversation going,
Solas, after explaining his plans: Do you plan to try to stop me Albus?
Dumbledore: Of course not! I've been manipulating a young human child to grow up before his time and face you in battle! He might die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to take!
Solas: ...and people wonder why I think this world is beyond saving.
Oh my god I would so pay good money to watch Harry kick some Egg Butt.
Ohhh, no wait. Even better: J.K. Rowling having a firm talk with Solas about why Genocide is bad.
She'd have him on his knees sobbing within ten minutes XD
Oh my god I would so pay good money to watch Harry kick some Egg Butt.
Ohhh, no wait. Even better: J.K. Rowling having a firm talk with Solas about why Genocide is bad.
She'd have him on his knees sobbing within ten minutes XD
I suppose there could be weirder universe mixes.
Although I think Harry Potter does tend to paint people black and white... at least compared to Dragon Age, not so much in comparison to other "children's" books.
Well I want my happy ending dammit!
I was trying to write fluff last night and it ended up being nothing but angst. I had to walk away from it and when I came back instead of making it lighter I made more angst. I can't believe what I just put my poor girl through and what I intend to continue to torment her with. Though some of the best romances I have read rip your heart out before they give you any kind of ending, happy, or otherwise.
Well I want my happy ending dammit!
I was trying to write fluff last night and it ended up being nothing but angst. I had to walk away from it and when I came back instead of making it lighter I made more angst. I can't believe what I just put my poor girl through and what I intend to continue to torment her with. Though some of the best romances I have read rip your heart out before they give you any kind of ending, happy, or otherwise.
You can find the fluff Kadan!
HA! That is a perfect example right there. I dont blame people for thinking solas is revolting. Think what you will, what he plans isnt pretty. But how many of those people that think he is a monster for wanting to save his people also completely wiped out the geth (tranquil non-people) so that they could get the shep breath scene at the end of the game? I know I did...even with legions sacrifice and how much danm feels that gave me. One of my fave characters. And how much I think that that unit does have a soul. And EDI...I am a monster too. Oh no...
I don't know what you mean? I chose Destroy, and EDI and the Geth were quite well in my PT. C: ... (: ... |:
Ah, the power of headcanon!
Well....interestingly enough though.....
.....Solas' character on this point seems to be very different depending on who the Inquisitor was. I agree with you, with a friend or romance Inquisitor yes, Solas is not really a madman looking at his plan with a maniac grin on his face.
However, take a good look at the look on his face when he says "Doing so will most likely destroy your world" to an Inquisitor he hates. It is the same look and smile he has just before he turns to kill the mages who tortured the spirit of Wisdom. I'm afraid that that look is very maniac in appearance. Like "I'm going to enjoy this" look on his face.
I bet that look is what his legendary giggling is all about. Because it seems that if Solas is about to kill someone and he's enjoying it....well.....he really seems to enjoy it.
I don't know if it's just my game, but Solas looked very blank when he was swaggering up to the mages. Do you have a video showing what you mean? O:
Sometimes I wish Solas didn't give Lavellan all the credit for making him see that the people of modern Thedas are people too. I mean, did he not hang out with the other companions?
I've said this before and have had people leap down my throat for it, but bugger it I'm a glutton for punishment; but I personally don't think Solas saw any of the other companions as friends (save Cole and high-approval Inquisitor, obviously). He very clearly had a lot of respect for a select few of them; Cass, again obviously, Varric*, IB if you saved the Chargers, maybe Blackwall once he's outsed, but other than that none he would consider friends.
I think about Varric's Wicked Grace game; everyone was there except Solas, Vivienne, and Leliana (IIRC), and I think that's for a specific reason. Now you could argue that maybe Varric didn't invite them, but I very much doubt that. Even Cass was there, and Varric did nothing but antagonize her (I can't remember a single banter where either of them bond but please correct me if I'm wrong). Before Trespasser I thought it was just because he was stuckup and didn't want to make friends, but now we know that at that stage he still thinks of everyone as gremlins, and that's quite late into the game! Plus the only people he leaves parting words with at the end is a HA/romanced Inquisitor, and then Cole later on.
I'm not saying I disagree and prefer a romanced Lavellan getting all the credit for changing his view on people, but there's a good reason why she does.
Edit: *Actually I'm on the fence whether Solas had a lot of respect for Varric. It seemed like he did sometimes (when talking to him about his books), but he could be very condescending towards him when he wanted to be. I don't know.
I'd love to see the FMA team go after Solas.
Solas: I'm an immortal mage. Do you truly think you can fight me with your alchemy?
Major Armstrong: You might be immortal, but this technique has been passed down the Armstrong family for generations!
Solas: Why did you just take your shirt off right now?
Then General Armstrong walks in, Solas sees her, and runs 
You can find the fluff Kadan!
Is that.... is that a REAL dog?
I don't know what you mean? I chose Destroy, and EDI and the Geth were quite well in my PT. C: ... (: ... |:
Ah, the power of headcanon!
I don't know if it's just my game, but Solas looked very blank when he was swaggering up to the mages. Do you have a video showing what you mean? O:
I've said this before and have had people leap down my throat for it, but bugger it I'm a glutton for punishment; but I personally don't think Solas saw any of the other companions as friends (save Cole and high-approval Inquisitor, obviously). He very clearly had a lot of respect for a select few of them; Cass, again obviously, Varric*, IB if you saved the Chargers, maybe Blackwall once he's outsed, but other than that none he would consider friends.
I think about Varric's Wicked Grace game; everyone was there except Solas, Vivienne, and Leliana (IIRC), and I think that's for a specific reason. Now you could argue that maybe Varric didn't invite them, but I very much doubt that. Even Cass was there, and Varric did nothing but antagonize her (I can't remember a single banter where either of them bond but please correct me if I'm wrong). Before Trespasser I thought it was just because he was stuckup and didn't want to make friends, but now we know that at that stage he still thinks of everyone as gremlins, and that's quite late into the game! Plus the only people he leaves parting words with at the end is a HA/romanced Inquisitor, and then Cole later on.
I'm not saying I disagree and prefer a romanced Lavellan getting all the credit for changing his view on people, but there's a good reason why she does.
Edit: *Actually I'm on the fence whether Solas had a lot of respect for Varric. It seemed like he did sometimes (when talking to him about his books), but he could be very condescending towards him when he wanted to be. I don't know.
Quite a few of the later banters with Varric and Cass are them teasing each other, not so much antagonising but messing with each other as friends do. And there are at least a couple where they kind of bond.
Quite a few of the later banters with Varric and Cass are them teasing each other, not so much antagonising but messing with each other as friends do. And there are at least a couple where they kind of bond.
Maybe I need to hear how they talk, but I've read all of the banter on the wikia and couldn't see many that looked light, except for maybe one or two. Saying that though, tone is everything, and I did get cheat engine recently to hear all of the delicious banter with the press of a button so I'll keep an ear out for it next time. ^^
Edit: Proofread before posting, Jayla!
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I've said this before and have had people leap down my throat for it, but bugger it I'm a glutton for punishment; but I personally don't think Solas saw any of the other companions as friends (save Cole and high-approval Inquisitor, obviously). He very clearly had a lot of respect for a select few of them; Cass, again obviously, Varric, IB if you saved the Chargers, maybe Blackwall once he's outsed, but other than that none he would consider friends.
I think about Varric's Wicked Grace game; everyone was there except Solas, Vivienne, and Leliana (IIRC), and I think that's for a specific reason. Now you could argue that maybe Varric didn't invite them, but I very much doubt that. Even Cass was there, and Varric did nothing but antagonize her (I can't remember a single banter where either of them bond but please correct me if I'm wrong). Before Trespasser I thought it was just because he was stuckup and didn't want to make friends, but now we know that at that stage he still thinks of everyone as gremlins, and that's quite late into the game! Plus the only people he leaves parting words with at the end is a HA/romanced Inquisitor, and then Cole later on.
I'm not saying I disagree and prefer a romanced Lavellan getting all the credit for changing his view on people, but there's a good reason why she does.
I think I'm leaning more towards agreeing with you. Not that Solas not showing up for the Wicked Grace was a huge deal (too big a gathering) because he does play Diamondback with Blackwall, but Solas's relationships with his fellow companions never seem to reach more than a respect for each other, we are comrades in arms, phase.
Also Varric and Cassandra are like Aveline and Isabela. They bicker with each other, but deep down share a strange friendship!
Going to leave this link here because I love it and it's appropriate for the current topic.
Also I still really really hate the Keep because it STILL won't show me Trespasser tiles. Why it hate me so much. I loved it tenderly and everything.
I don't know what you mean? I chose Destroy, and EDI and the Geth were quite well in my PT. C: ... (: ... |:
Ah, the power of headcanon!
I don't know if it's just my game, but Solas looked very blank when he was swaggering up to the mages. Do you have a video showing what you mean? O:
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Here is the look I'm talking about. This is All New, Faded For Her. Pay attention at 5:16 in the video. He is smiling as he turns to deal with the mages. And not a cute "Is that a serious question?" smile.
Here is the low approval dialogue at the end of Trespasser. Watch at around 1:44. Solas has a very similar look to him as he talks about the possibility of this world ending.
Another thing to note is that both times Solas makes this face he is either facing away or in the process of facing away from the Inquisitor. These are the times Solas let's his face show his true emotions.
It's this face that shows Solas has a very, very dark side if he feels justified in what he is doing in my opinion. It's like subtle mixture of amusement and pleasure.
Color me disturbed.
Going to leave this link here because I love it and it's appropriate for the current topic.
beautiful 
It's like she gives the world color, as well as him
Here is the look I'm talking about. This is All New, Faded For Her. Pay attention at 5:16 in the video. He is smiling as he turns to deal with the mages. And not a cute "Is that a serious question?" smile.
Here is the low approval dialogue at the end of Trespasser. Watch at around 1:44. Solas has a very similar look to him as he talks about the possibility of this world ending.
Another thing to note is that both times Solas makes this face he is either facing away or in the process of facing away from the Inquisitor. These are the times Solas let's his face show his true emotions.
It's this face that shows Solas has a very, very dark side if he feels justified in what he is doing in my opinion. It's like subtle mixture of amusement and pleasure.
Color me disturbed.
I don't see it the same way. I think you are looking too much into it. Animations aren't perfect and I doubt what you are perceiving is the intended effect.
Going to leave this link here because I love it and it's appropriate for the current topic.
Also I still really really hate the Keep because it STILL won't show me Trespasser tiles. Why it hate me so much. I loved it tenderly and everything.
I like that a lot!!
Here is the look I'm talking about. This is All New, Faded For Her. Pay attention at 5:16 in the video. He is smiling as he turns to deal with the mages. And not a cute "Is that a serious question?" smile.
Here is the low approval dialogue at the end of Trespasser. Watch at around 1:44. Solas has a very similar look to him as he talks about the possibility of this world ending.
Another thing to note is that both times Solas makes this face he is either facing away or in the process of facing away from the Inquisitor. These are the times Solas let's his face show his true emotions.
It's this face that shows Solas has a very, very dark side if he feels justified in what he is doing in my opinion. It's like subtle mixture of amusement and pleasure.
Color me disturbed.
UHHHH, creepy Solas is creepy!!
I think that is Solas' 'being grim and fatalistic' face. That smile doesn't have to mean that he is sinister and evil, people smile for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes we smile while we are angry, or sad, or happy. Sometimes I smirk in a very unfortunate situation where I KNOW that nothing can go right despite all of my efforts, because the human body has to deal with all of these emotions in some kind of way. I think that's what happens to Solas in those moments, too.
Is that.... is that a REAL dog?
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Um, Ghilan'nain created it?
I think that is Solas' 'being grim and fatalistic' face. That smile doesn't have to mean that he is sinister and evil, people smile for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes we smile while we are angry, or sad, or happy. Sometimes I smirk in a very unfortunate situation where I KNOW that nothing can go right despite all of my efforts, because the human body has to deal with all of these emotions in some kind of way. I think that's what happens to Solas in those moments, too.
Murderous is such a complicated feeling!
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