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Woah that looks epic! The animation is a very interesting style too, I liked the look of the Pride demon a lot! 

Is it the same voice actor for Cassandra?

 

Hmm don't think so..found the movie in 2 parts here till i get my hands on the dvd :P

Oh and i found this as well if u wanna watch it :P  Warden's Fall

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I actually can. Solas is a character they've been planning from the first game, and I think they're going to juice every money drop they can from him. Solavallen is one of the best things that's happened to the series imo, and I think they realize what amazing story potential they've got in their hands with them. I think they will at least do a small cameo, and that's enough for me, because I trust weekes immensely to not disappoint his fans :)

 

i guess my trust is not as strong as yours. I didn't like the Hawke cameo.



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With all the discussions about a new PC vs Quizzy I can see them doing something like they did with the Awakening DLC. Where you get to chose to import your Inquisitor, or choose a new PC. To me this would be the ideal way of making everyone happy.

 

If a player chooses a new PC then the Quizzy is regulated to a companion like Hawke was and vice versa. Based on how diverse of a game one can have based on the Keep I think this is totally doable. It falls along the same rules the game follows in how it knows who you recruit or don't and the relationship status of romance options.


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With all the discussions about a new PC vs Quizzy I can see them doing something like they did with the Awakening DLC. Where you get to chose to import your Inquisitor, or choose a new PC. To me this would be the ideal way of making everyone happy.

 

If a player chooses a new PC then the Quizzy is regulated to a companion like Hawke was and vice versa. Based on how diverse of a game one can have based on the Keep I think this is totally doable. It falls along the same rules the game follows in how it knows who you recruit or don't and the relationship status of romance options.

 

I think this is a good idea too. Should have added that as an option on my poll. Oh well.



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But do you really trust Bioware to finish Quizzy and Solas' story off with a cameo that you can't control? I suspect that if they do that, you will be dissatisfied with the results.

 

Well, If they do disappoint there's always fanfiction. 


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I try not to be a picky fan with unrealistic expectations, but I kind of really want my Lavellan as protagonist again. Not just because I'm so attached to her as character and can't see how a cameo would have be the same as how I would play her. In addition to that, it's personal between her and Solas. Given her character, it will be unsatisfying for anyone but her to put an end to this ridiculousness.
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I actually can. Solas is a character they've been planning from the first game, and I think they're going to juice every money drop they can from him. Solavallen is one of the best things that's happened to the series imo, and I think they realize what amazing story potential they've got in their hands with them. I think they will at least do a small cameo, and that's enough for me, because I trust weekes immensely to not disappoint his fans :)

 

But that's just impossible - some people will ultimately be disappointed. Heck, some people were already disappointed with not enough options to deal or address Solas in Trespasser - what will happen if all those options are taken away and we're presented with one that is default? I don't really see that going well at all.

 

Also - one cameo only for Solavellan? Yeah, they won't be doing that, unless they'd provide something really disappointing. And even that one disappointing scene would likely cost a lot to make.

 

The only way I see they can bring Lavellan back and conclude their romance is if they bring other Quizzies and conclude them dealing with Solas in whatever way they've decided to do it (redeem or kill him). The romance might have become a highlight, but they won't be making special exceptions for it.



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I try not to be a picky fan with unrealistic expectations, but I kind of really want my Lavellan as protagonist again. Not just because I'm so attached to her as character and can't see how a cameo would have be the same as how I would play her. In addition to that, it's personal between her and Solas. Given her character, it will be unsatisfying for anyone but her to put an end to this ridiculousness.

But I think we're a bit biased. they're a lot of fans who never romanced Solas, hate his guts, or are just not interested in him at all. That's why I think the polls are leaning more towards new protagonist. We all love Solas so much that we're forgetting about all the other fans x-x 

 

Most people want a new protagonist because they aren't as invested in their quizzy's as us, and Bioware is going to take into account everyone's opinions.



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With all the discussions about a new PC vs Quizzy I can see them doing something like they did with the Awakening DLC. Where you get to chose to import your Inquisitor, or choose a new PC. To me this would be the ideal way of making everyone happy.

 

If a player chooses a new PC then the Quizzy is regulated to a companion like Hawke was and vice versa. Based on how diverse of a game one can have based on the Keep I think this is totally doable. It falls along the same rules the game follows in how it knows who you recruit or don't and the relationship status of romance options.

 

I've read in one of articles that they regret doing that and they've should've just let people play their original Wardens.

 

I'm also not sure it would work with Quizzy - Inquisitor has already something of an established history and character and something of that would have to be reflected in dialogue options given to them. It would be rather impossible to have them share most of dialogue with new protagonist. Too much work - too much cost, that's the way I see it.


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But I think we're a bit biased. they're a lot of fans who never romanced Solas, hate his guts, or are just not interested in him at all. That's why I think the polls are leaning more towards new protagonist. We all love Solas so much that we're forgetting about all the other fans x-x

Most people want a new protagonist because they aren't as invested in their quizzy's as us, and Bioware is going to take into account everyone's opinions.


Yep, that's why I said I try not to be picky. I did not forget that not everyone likes or even cares about Solas.
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I've read in one of articles that they regret doing that and they've should've just let people play their original Wardens.

 

I'm also not sure it would work with Quizzy - Inquisitor has already something of an established history and character and something of that would have to be reflected in dialogue options given to them. It would be rather impossible to have them share most of dialogue with new protagonist. Too much work - too much cost, that's the way I see it.

 

True, but I am wondering if that's more doable than dual protagonist.



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But that's just impossible - some people will ultimately be disappointed. Heck, some people were already disappointed with not enough options to deal or address Solas in Trespasser - what will happen if all those options are taken away and we're presented with one that is default? I don't really see that going well at all.

 

Also - one cameo only for Solavellan? Yeah, they won't be doing that, unless they'd provide something really disappointing. And even that one disappointing scene would likely cost a lot to make.

 

The only way I see they can bring Lavellan back and conclude their romance is if they bring other Quizzies and conclude them dealing with Solas in whatever way they've decided to do it (redeem or kill him). The romance might have become a highlight, but they won't be making special exceptions for it.

I'm ok with that. I was personally satisfied with how they dealed with hawke, the warden, and solas in Trespasser. I actually loved what they did with Solas in Trespasser. It was amazing and I would have them change nothing. 

 

I don't need a complicated Solavellan ending. Many things can be implied from simple conclusions, and that's how I want it to end: a straightforward ending with implied and meaningful extra stuff to make it all the more heartfelt. A lot can be done in just small conversations (I mean the whole Solas romance is tiny in terms of cutscenes) and I think it is completely doable for a small Solavellan cameo to end the solasmance nicely. 


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But I think we're a bit biased. they're a lot of fans who never romanced Solas, hate his guts, or are just not interested in him at all. That's why I think the polls are leaning more towards new protagonist. We all love Solas so much that we're forgetting about all the other fans x-x 

 

Most people want a new protagonist because they aren't as invested in their quizzy's as us, and Bioware is going to take into account everyone's opinions.

 

But what's the chance that they'd be invested in new characters, especially that they'd be a blank slate to be built upon again, rather than something ready to be expanded further?

 

....Especially if it turns out that Inquisitor's story is still more important than the new hero - because realistically I don't see how a story of a Thedosian demigod in personal conflict with creator of the Veil NOT overshadow whatever new protagonist will set out to do.

 

New heroes will likely be crucial, in a sense that their own decisions will likely enable either Quizzy or Solas achieve their goals, but effectively DAI and Trespasser pushed Inky and Solas to be in the core of the story... and unless we're getting ourselves another demigod, it's a spot that would be hard to push anyone else in, without making the story feel rather crowded.


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The thing that scares me most is the long wait and it will all be Not for Solas reunion/redeem/romance/kill :( in the next game.Will be all gathering allies yet again,discovering more information/lore through a new protagonist which most likely will happen considering what we go against.I don't want to but it's possible.


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But I think we're a bit biased. they're a lot of fans who never romanced Solas, hate his guts, or are just not interested in him at all. That's why I think the polls are leaning more towards new protagonist. We all love Solas so much that we're forgetting about all the other fans x-x 

 

Most people want a new protagonist because they aren't as invested in their quizzy's as us, and Bioware is going to take into account everyone's opinions.

 

It doesn't matter, it's a fact that the Inquisitor is going after Solas, even those who hate him, it is made clear with the end of Trespasser and the meeting between the advisers and Inqi. Even if a player isn't interested in resolving the matter of Solas with the Inquisitor, they can't do anything with the fact that the Inquisition members are the only people who know of Solas' plans and know him well enough to oppose him. The Inquisitor will most likely (I'm 99% certain) will be involved in one way or another in the next game, we just don't know in what matter and how much (dual protagonist? cameo? adviser? letters with orders?).



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True, but I am wondering if that's more doable than dual protagonist.

 

With double protagonist - who we only take control over in specific spots in the story or map - the protagonist isn't always at the forefront, interacting with everyone throughout entire length of the story. Many things can be pushed to background or never really addressed in a way we expect things to be addressed if we were at full control of the character at all times.



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The thing that scares me most is the long wait and it will all be Not for Solas reunion/redeem/romance/kill :( in the next game.Will be all gathering allies yet again,discovering more information/lore through a new protagonist which most likely will happen considering what we go against.I don't want to but it's possible.

 

Patrick Weekes confirmed that if there would be a next game, Solavellan will be resolved in it. I'm pretty sure Solas will be dealt with in the next game.


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I'd like Skyhold to be left open for the former members of the Inquisition who have no home to go back to, for whatever reason, while my girl goes off and saves the world. Again. 

 

I couldn't resist a modern Solvellan

 

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Patrick Weekes confirmed that if there would be a next game, Solavellan will be resolved in it. I'm pretty sure Solas will be dealt with in the next game.

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I'm ok with that. I was personally satisfied with how they dealed with hawke, the warden, and solas in Trespasser. I actually loved what they did with Solas in Trespasser. It was amazing and I would have them change nothing. 

 

I don't need a complicated Solavellan ending. Many things can be implied from simple conclusions, and that's how I want it to end: a straightforward ending with implied and meaningful extra stuff to make it all the more heartfelt. A lot can be done in just small conversations (I mean the whole Solas romance is tiny in terms of cutscenes) and I think it is completely doable for a small Solavellan cameo to end the solasmance nicely. 

 

Well... you're okay with that, which is fine, but for myself, the sole prospect of getting one default scene makes me squirm. I don't require any sort of special treatment for Solavellan... in fact I don't think I want to see ANY of my Inkys (good or bad) and all that great set-up being squandered with a small selection of short, default scenes.

 

Also... the scene with Solas in Trespasser wasn't just one, default scene. People loved it so much, because they saw how differently Solas treats Quizzes depending either on approval level/romance or options chosen throughout the scene. People adored even the fact that there were subtle changes to facial expressions... and, um... you think one default scene could replace that? It's like, the very opposite of what you're proposing...

 

And that was just a scene that set up the future conflict and not any sort of resolution  :mellow:...


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Patrick Weekes confirmed that if there would be a next game, Solavellan will be resolved in it. I'm pretty sure Solas will be dealt with in the next game.

 

I guess the concern is about HOW it is going to be resolved. Weekes is an important writer, but he doesn't have all the say in how the story goes.


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Most people want a new protagonist because they aren't as invested in their quizzy's as us, and Bioware is going to take into account everyone's opinions.

 

You might also add that many of the voters for a new protagonist or the inquisitor cameo might come from those who didn't enjoy DA:I or didn't enjoy the inquisitor. They are still there and meaningful on this forum, and obviously the thought about playing again the same protagonist that meant nothing to them / they disliked might really scare them. And I'm certain that among them, there are very few solasmancers, so dealing with Solas directly or not with the inquisitor, why would they care lol. 

 

As for Hawk,  I see people wishing to have the inquisitor as a cameo like him / her, but at the same time like said midnight many of the fans weren't really satisfied by how Bioware treated him / her. So I'm uncertain what people want and if they are really aware of what they wish and if they really thought about it. 

 

Of course those who didn't enjoy DAI or the inquisitor are a big part of those voting for Inquisitor as cameo, or ' do not want the inquisitor again in the next dragon age ', so they don't really care, and I don't really think about them but those who loved the inquisitor or want the inquisitor to deal with Solas, they might regret thinking that way. A cameo treatment might be way too limited to offer something satisfying compared to the potential the last dlc showed. 

 

I agree with Shari anyway.


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Well... you're okay with that, which is fine, but for myself, the sole prospect of getting one default scene makes me squirm. I don't require any sort of special treatment for Solavellan... in fact I don't think I want to see ANY of my Inkys (good or bad) and all that great set-up being squandered with a small selection of short, default scenes.

 

Also... the scene with Solas in Trespasser wasn't just one, default scene. People loved it so much, because they saw how differently Solas treats Quizzes depending either on approval level/romance or options chosen throughout the scene. People adored even the fact that there were subtle changes to facial expressions... and, um... you think one default scene could replace that? It's like, the very opposite of what you're proposing...

 

And that was just a scene that set up the future conflict and not any sort of resolution  :mellow:...

not one default scene just a small cameo that's done well, rather than quissy being the main protagonist. I'm being general on purpose because I think it could be done in many ways and that quissy doesn't have to be the protagonist in order for us to get good closure. 



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Finally! Fan art I can do!

http://www.rinmaruga...me/?game_id=462

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:D That was fun, I haven't done one of those since I was a tween!


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