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[midnight tea]

I guess the concern is about HOW it is going to be resolved. Weekes is an important writer, but he doesn't have all the say in how the story goes.

 

It's true - though with the way they've set things in Trespasser I think it's rather obvious that all of the team (the one that decides stuff anyway) wants the story to go in that direction. 

 

I mean, the first thing that Weekes said is that 'he hopes it's clear from Trespasser itself' that they want to have some sort of continuation/conclusion, and I'm pretty sure Trespasser isn't just a work of PW himself on his own, or where he was just "we do what I want!" when they were designing it.

 

They've even said (in interviews or some Q&A) that epilogue cards for Trespasser were also written with greater consideration for future plot, hence I have to conclude that everything in the story itself was.

[drosophila]

I guess the concern is about HOW it is going to be resolved. Weekes is an important writer, but he doesn't have all the say in how the story goes.

Isn't he the lead writer now? I think that means he has the final say.

[Shari'El]

By the way, was there anything interesting in EdmontonExpo?

[midnight tea]

not one default scene just a small cameo that's done well, rather than quissy being the main protagonist. I'm being general on purpose because I think it could be done in many ways and that quissy doesn't have to be the protagonist in order for us to get good closure. 

 

... Um, which is why I and other people mentioned the possibility of double protagonists. Like you said, there's no need for Inky to be the main protag in DA4, but to give a meaningful conclusion to what they were set out to do, they have to be somewhat more involved into it in a way that goes beyond 'a small cameo'.

[midnight tea]

Isn't he the lead writer now? I think that means he has the final say.

 

Nope - PW himself said that he's not deciding everything a few times. It's a team effort (...and then there are your EA overlords you have to please as well ;P)

[Eivuwan]

Isn't he the lead writer now? I think that means he has the final say.

 

Oh I didn't realize that. What about Gaider?

[dragondreamer]

Oh I didn't realize that. What about Gaider?

 

Gaider left to work on the new IP, along with a lot of the writers, it seems.

 

Weekes also has to answer to Laidlaw and work with input from other departments, from what I've gathered on their processes. 

[RynJ]

These doll maker things are so fun! Under cut to save space. They match!

 

Spoiler

[Kadan]

I think they really have set themselves up, for good or bad with the Trespasser DLC. They have the potential to have an amazing game if done right. But if handled wrong it could be the end of a great game series. They invested the Inquisitor too deeply into the plot with Trespasser to just sweep them to the side. Whether romanced or not.

 

I jumped on the Dragon Age wagon late. In fact I downloaded DAO when it was offered Free sometime in October of last year. It sat there unplayed until January of this year. I was bored and thought, eh why not. I have over 500 hours in that game alone. Compare that to DAII which only has 150 hours. I honestly didn't intend to continue playing the games or buy the third installment because of how little enjoyment I had with Hawke's story. I hated what they did to my favorite mage and really found only two characters in it worth caring about, Varric and Fenris. But in April I caved and bought Inquisition, and I have over 700 hours in it. My first play through was a Cullen romance and a Trevelyan mage. During that game I fell in love with Solas' character and even though I knew it was a tragedy I played again to play out that romance arch. I have half started games of each possible character with the intent of playing out each romance arch at least once. And now after Trespasser I have to have at least one of those that doesn't get along with Solas! Friend or Foe his character is one I connected with.

 

I guess I'm getting a bit side tracked, but my point is. DAII didn't 'feel' like Dragon Age to me and I had trouble feeling connected to it. I knew it was setting the stage for DA:I and that was why I hesitated to buy the third one. It didn't leave me feeling like I had to know how the story played out. So they really better not screw up the forth one. Personally I want my Quizzy to play a major role, I want to be able to control him/her if not through the whole game, then at some point, because friend, foe or lover. Quizzy is a big part of the story now.

[Shari'El]

 

Text: "..... what's up with Solas' artifacts then?  The ones we activate? LET ME GUESS: SPOILERS"

[Uirebhiril]

Gaider left to work on the new IP, along with a lot of the writers, it seems.

 

Weekes also has to answer to Laidlaw and work with input from other departments, from what I've gathered on their processes. 

 

Weekes is also the person who strolled into the office and dropped the Solas romance on Laidlaw's desk and got it in the game. He may not have final say in everything, but if he comes up with something brilliant enough he certainly seems to get the whole team on board. And thank goodness for that.

[TheEggCrusher]

my anime solas and lavellan XD

 

[dragondreamer]

Weekes is also the person who strolled into the office and dropped the Solas romance on Laidlaw's desk and got it in the game. He may not have final say in everything, but if he comes up with something brilliant enough he certainly seems to get the whole team on board. And thank goodness for that.

 

Yep, and I will forever be grateful for that.

[S.W.]

Hey so I disappeared into the tumblr abyss for a few hours whilst my PC refused to run origins, and found this:

 

Corrected Solas Portrait Mod

 

I shouldn't find that so funny.

 

ALSO, completely unrelated, but I found this amazing fanart where someone drew Chloe and Max from Life is Strange as FemHawke and Merrill:

 

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sauce

 

I think they really have set themselves up, for good or bad with the Trespasser DLC. They have the potential to have an amazing game if done right. But if handled wrong it could be the end of a great game series. They invested the Inquisitor too deeply into the plot with Trespasser to just sweep them to the side. Whether romanced or not.

 

I jumped on the Dragon Age wagon late. In fact I downloaded DAO when it was offered Free sometime in October of last year. It sat there unplayed until January of this year. I was bored and thought, eh why not. I have over 500 hours in that game alone. Compare that to DAII which only has 150 hours. I honestly didn't intend to continue playing the games or buy the third installment because of how little enjoyment I had with Hawke's story. I hated what they did to my favorite mage and really found only two characters in it worth caring about, Varric and Fenris. But in April I caved and bought Inquisition, and I have over 700 hours in it. My first play through was a Cullen romance and a Trevelyan mage. During that game I fell in love with Solas' character and even though I knew it was a tragedy I played again to play out that romance arch. I have half started games of each possible character with the intent of playing out each romance arch at least once. And now after Trespasser I have to have at least one of those that doesn't get along with Solas! Friend or Foe his character is one I connected with.

 

I guess I'm getting a bit side tracked, but my point is. DAII didn't 'feel' like Dragon Age to me and I had trouble feeling connected to it. I knew it was setting the stage for DA:I and that was why I hesitated to buy the third one. It didn't leave me feeling like I had to know how the story played out. So they really better not screw up the forth one. Personally I want my Quizzy to play a major role, I want to be able to control him/her if not through the whole game, then at some point, because friend, foe or lover. Quizzy is a big part of the story now.

 

*glomps*

 

I had pretty much an identical experience. An IRL friend of mine is really into DA2, so I decided to download the first instalment of the series when it was on sale at around Christmas time last year. Fell in love with it over Christmas, and almost a year later I have about ~300 hours on it. Played DA2 a few months later when I had some free time, but I didn't enjoy it nearly as much for lots and lots of complex reasons (well, okay, it's just Anders). Around spring, I caved and bought DA:I after I'd finished my dissertation. Only difference was that I romanced Solas on my first playthrough, completely unaware of what was coming. Just fantastic, mesmerising wordlbuilding and storytelling. DA4 could be absolutely phenomenal if they continue what Trespasser did so well - and that includes emotional, invested relationships with villains (aka. quizzy for next game plz).

[Kadan]

Okay that character creator is too cute! He's mine. After the Ball at the Winter Palace. (Had to fix it I forgot the ears!)

 

 

[Aroihkin]

I decided to give the dollmaker a whirl...

 

 

Ahaha, I knew there was absolutely no way for Alleyana's hatchet-faced, beak-nosed glory to translate to a cutesy generator, but I tried. Her hair's pretty accurate if it was down, though.

 

I'd have given her one of the shields, but the straps clip with the sleeve on that top. Also they're tiny. I think she'd be insulted. (She likes big shields and cannot lie?)

[FernRain]

*Jumps in thread*

 

I had a dream about Abelas! I wrote it down too .

 

Literally just woke up, let me get to my pc so I can write it up nicely .

[Arvaarad]

For me, personally, wanting a new protag has more to do with the new protag than the inquisitor. Tevinter (all of northern Thedas, really) has been this shadowy, mysterious place for 3 games now, and the potential to see it from the eyes of a native? Wow!

I love my inquisitors, but if I had to play them for extended periods of time, I'd be thinking, "right, but I could be playing my ex-slave/magister/liberati/Ben-Hassrath agent/whatever crazy nuts backgrounds they end up having for DA4."

I want to see Tevinter from the eyes of someone who lived there, not some rando Marcher who I've grown to love, but who's not relevant to the place, as relevant as they may be to the story. So much of what we've heard of Tevinter is secondhand, from Tevinter companions, from hearsay, and from the few times people visited Tevinter in the comics. Even if the inquisitor went to live there, they'd see a massively edited picture of the empire. They're the inquisitor. They didn't grow up there, they went there after gaining a fancy title and loads of fame.

A new protag is our chance to finally see that glorious, corrupt, magnificent, rotting empire from the perspective of a true insider. Possibly Par Vollen, too!

[Wahed89]

Just finished the post-well of sorrows scene with my first Solas romance character, Cirilla. How I wish I could have played that scene blind with no knowledge of who or what he was, because even knowing hit me. My character called him an ******* in elvish.

[midnight tea]

For me, personally, wanting a new protag has more to do with the new protag than the inquisitor. Tevinter (all of northern Thedas, really) has been this shadowy, mysterious place for 3 games now, and the potential to see it from the eyes of a native? Wow!

I love my inquisitors, but if I had to play them for extended periods of time, I'd be thinking, "right, but I could be playing my ex-slave/magister/liberati/Ben-Hassrath agent/whatever crazy nuts backgrounds they end up having for DA4."

I want to see Tevinter from the eyes of someone who lived there, not some rando Marcher who I've grown to love, but who's not relevant to the place, as relevant as they may be to the story. So much of what we've heard of Tevinter is secondhand, from Tevinter companions, from hearsay, and from the few times people visited Tevinter in the comics. Even if the inquisitor went to live there, they'd see a massively edited picture of the empire. They're the inquisitor. They didn't grow up there, they went there after gaining a fancy title and loads of fame.

A new protag is our chance to finally see that glorious, corrupt, magnificent, rotting empire from the perspective of a true insider. Possibly Par Vollen, too!

 

Well... playing with natives presents a whole cornucopia of problems, considering that a protagonist is usually a straightforward audience surrogate. And we played a Free Marcher lost in Orlais/Ferelden specifically so we wouldn't look stupid if we asked a lot of questions we shouldn't be asking, because logically speaking from in-story perspective, our character should know the answer for at least half of those.

 

This is why I think whether we will be playing Inquisitor, agent of Inquisition or whoever else... we may actually NOT be playing as natives to Tevinter. Or if PCs are, they won't really be "true insiders", even if most will treat them as ones.

 

I mean, how can they be, if they have to have everything about Tevinter culture spelled out for them, so the player would know what the frig is going on?

[Arvaarad]

Well... playing with natives presents a whole cornucopia of problems, considering that a protagonist is usually a straightforward audience surrogate. And we played a Free Marcher lost in Orlais/Ferelden specifically so we wouldn't look stupid if we asked a lot of questions we shouldn't be asking, because logically speaking our character should know the answer for at least half of those.

 

With that kind of background, they usually just flip the script and have an NPC ask the question to the PC. Or the PC volunteers the information. Like when Lavellan says "oh, it's weird there's this mosaic, Fen'Harel is our god of misfortune" so that players who don't know the background lore about Fen'Harel get caught up to speed.

 

Narrated background intros are also good for this, a la the backgrounds in Origins. "You've never seen a Circle or the Dalish or alienages or the Deep Roads or anything before because this is a new setting, so here's some basic knowledge to build the character on."

[Wahed89]

Can I ask, why does Solas hate the Frey Wardens? Is it just a personal dislike or is it connected to his plans somehow? I have tried to think of what about the Grey Wardens it is that he could dislike if it is connected to his plans and I come up short each time.

One thought was that they are all technically infected with the blight. So their existence is a constant threat in terms of the Old Gods. But I don't know enough about the Old Gods and their relation to Solas to put it together.

I also wonder if maybe the Grey Wardens are actually somehow the only ones who may be capable of stopping him. Again I don't know how, but I just am trying to make sense of his great disapproval of them.

[FernRain]

Okay! So. I don't usually write longer posts because I don't like reading them myself but this one is pretty funny (a dream I had of Abelas).

 

I went to go meet him at a temple and heard people crying because they were entering uthenera (like the codex says). I was really surprised when I saw him because I thought he was going to as well, but he was too curious about the modern day elves to go into the eternal sleep.

 

He had hair like this (source):

 

 

And he was hugely tall, like 7 foot. While we talked he was really open and I was like, "This is perfect. we have so many lore questions and you're an ancient Elf. Tell me things!". So I asked him about the nature of the Old Gods. Then weird happened. He did some magic and I was going from corner to corner of this square temple and somehow came to the conclusion that the Old Gods were 'pure emotion' . And while that was happening the spell he cast was making me a little.. frisky, and.. IT WAS THE SPELL OKAY? And it was Abelas! Don't look at me like that. I think I touched his stomach or something, it was pretty casual .

 

Anyhow, I told him about how I met Solas and Mythal, and how Solas was the Dread Wolf. He didn't seem to realize it at the time of meeting him. I also told him what happened between us and he gave me a sympathetic hug .

 

Then we were walking around and I told him people had written fan fiction about him and he was like: ....okay. And then I told him some of it was smutty and he was even more taken back .

 

Throughout our conversations he was enthusiastic and that's basically all I can remember.

 

That night I also dreamt my 60 year old mother was pregnant, so it was a busy dream night for me .

[drosophila]

I love your dream, Fern Rain. 

 

I've never written anything about Abelas, but I seriously wonder what Solas' reaction would be if he got to read all the fanfic written about him.

[FernRain]

I love your dream, Fern Rain. 

 

I've never written anything about Abelas, but I seriously wonder what Solas' reaction would be if he got to read all the fanfic written about him.

 

Shock with a little pride? .