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[midnight tea]

With that kind of background, they usually just flip the script and have an NPC ask the question to the PC. Or the PC volunteers the information. Like when Lavellan says "oh, it's weird there's this mosaic, Fen'Harel is our god of misfortune" so that players who don't know the background lore about Fen'Harel get caught up to speed.

 

Yes, but this only really works for short and not really very detailed answers, not to mention that it increases the cost of voice-acting and strains the word budged for the game (they have to have multiple lines voiced multiple times and changed according to the character's race or background).

 

The other way around is simply easier and less costly, because the same NPC (with the same VA) can answer those questions in an identical (or almost identical) manner.

 

Not to mention that there will be people grumbling about auto-responses and lack of agency again, if PCs did that too often. And if we're given options - realistically, how are PCs going to answer them, when players are unfamiliar with the context?

 

At least in Inquisition, when - for example - Josie asks Inkys about the background, the information given was vague or focused on, say, personal relation of Quizzy with their family or clan, and their race or background focus responses were short, relatively scarce and to the point. They didn't fill in a gap in player's knowledge as much as answers provided by others.

[Uirebhiril]

Shock with a little pride? .

 

Or like Shepard in the Citadel DLC. "I don't sound like that! ...Do I?"

[drosophila]

Shock with a little pride? .

 

Solas: These stories give me far more credit than I deserve. Except for the smut, I'm a much better lover than that. But Vhenan Trash, they got it all 100% right.

[Kadan]

I totally have dreams like that. It's the main reason I decided to do my second story. I had a dream I woke up in Haven and was being nursed back to health by Solas. So I had to come up with a reason that someone like me would be there and how I would react.

 

I've also had dreams where I kiss Fenris  glowy tattoos and all. 

I can easily immerse myself into a character, book, movie, game whatever. It was great for theater in High School, but at my age now I have to be selective with who I share those dreams with. Few would understand.

[drosophila]

I totally have dreams like that. It's the main reason I decided to do my second story. I had a dream I woke up in Haven and was being nursed back to health by Solas. So I had to come up with a reason that someone like me would be there and how I would react.

 

I've also had dreams where I kiss Fenris  glowy tattoos and all. 

I can easily immerse myself into a character, book, movie, game whatever. It was great for theater in High School, but at my age now I have to be selective with who I share those dreams with. Few would understand.

 

Here in the blanket fort, we understand 

 

Once again I'm jealous people have all these awesome dreams. I hardly ever dream. My latest DA-related dream was probably just a dream about me going on a safari, because I dreamt I saw a wolf fighting a lion. Solas avoids my dreams

[midnight tea]

Okay! So. I don't usually write longer posts because I don't like reading them myself but this one is pretty funny (a dream I had of Abelas).

 

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I went to go met him at a temple and heard people crying because they were entering uthenera (like the codex says). I was really surprised when I saw him because I thought he was going to as well, but he was too curious about the modern day elves to go into the eternal sleep.

 

He had hair like this (source):

 

 

And he was hugely tall, like 7 foot. While we talked he was really open and I was like, "This is perfect. we have so many lore questions and you're an ancient Elf. Tell me things!". So I asked him about the nature of the Old Gods. Then weird happened. He did some magic and I was going from corner to corner of this square temple and somehow came to the conclusion that the Old Gods were 'pure emotion' . And while that was happening the spell he cast was making me a little.. frisky, and.. IT WAS THE SPELL OKAY? And it was Abelas! Don't look at me like that. I think I touched his stomach or something, it was pretty casual .

 

Anyhow, I told him about how I met Solas and Mythal, and how Solas was the Dread Wolf. He didn't seem to realize it at the time of meeting him. I also told him what happened between us and he gave me a sympathetic hug .

 

Then we were walking around and I told him people had written fan fiction about him and he was like: ....okay. And then I told him some of it was smutty and he was even more taken back .

 

Throughout our conversations he was enthusiastic and that's basically all I can remember.

 

That night I also dreamt my 60 year old mother was pregnant, so it was a busy dream night for me .

 

Well at least some people seem to have interesting, story-themed dreams. Mine lately can be called interesting... I suppose, but most of them are  just BIZARRE.

 

My last one involved a bullet train that rode to Vietnam and Taiwan of all places (why would I dream of a train to Vietnam!? And Taiwan is on an island, so how come a train can reach it???), then I followed some Vietnamese lady to a large, disturbingly empty supermarket (still where I lived.. not in Vietnam) where me and someone I couldn't describe looked for a pair of jeans, while a couple I was supposed to attend a wedding of looked for some sort of weird wedding attire for their ceremony.

 

And then we/me tried to saved a pony (normal-looking, nothing of MLP sort) from some sort of weird, fluorescent humanoids who had a strange party (ritual?) outside and then followed us into the supermarket.

 

Like... WHAT!?

 

I was surprised when I woke up that I remembered most of it, but I think I remembered it mostly because I was desperately trying to figure out what the hell my brain was on about when it created it... 

[Kadan]

I had this weird dream that my daughter had an impossible math problem to solve. Through the whole dream we were trying to solve it and somehow the fate of the world hinged on us solving it in time to prevent an alien invasion. No one believed me that solving it would save us so I had to do it on my own. They all thought I was crazy, which is usually the reaction I get when I tell someone one of my crazy dreams

[Eivuwan]

I tried to do an arlathan theme.

 

[dragondreamer]

I usually end up forgetting my dreams, or having very lucid ones.  The most vivid one I had in recent memory involved flying on a black and white griffon.

[TheEggCrusher]

For me, personally, wanting a new protag has more to do with the new protag than the inquisitor. Tevinter (all of northern Thedas, really) has been this shadowy, mysterious place for 3 games now, and the potential to see it from the eyes of a native? Wow!

I love my inquisitors, but if I had to play them for extended periods of time, I'd be thinking, "right, but I could be playing my ex-slave/magister/liberati/Ben-Hassrath agent/whatever crazy nuts backgrounds they end up having for DA4."

I want to see Tevinter from the eyes of someone who lived there, not some rando Marcher who I've grown to love, but who's not relevant to the place, as relevant as they may be to the story. So much of what we've heard of Tevinter is secondhand, from Tevinter companions, from hearsay, and from the few times people visited Tevinter in the comics. Even if the inquisitor went to live there, they'd see a massively edited picture of the empire. They're the inquisitor. They didn't grow up there, they went there after gaining a fancy title and loads of fame.

A new protag is our chance to finally see that glorious, corrupt, magnificent, rotting empire from the perspective of a true insider. Possibly Par Vollen, too!

This is exactly how I feel. I want to experience Tevinter in all it's awesome rp glory. 

 

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[FernRain]

If Solas owned Skyhold, does that mean we were using his bedroom? . Did he go into Uthenera in Skyhold?

 

Well, that gives even more substance to the theory that's where he created the Veil. And ties a loose end.

 

Offhand, does anyone remember what the paintings in the Inquisitor's quarters look like? The one in that closet-y type space and above? I can check later but I'm curious again now.

 

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And while you're thinking about Skyhold, I am so suspicious of Solas "finding" it. I bet he brought it into existence somehow, kinda like the wellspring. Couldn't dreamers shape the fade? Hmm.

 

I was close .

[NeverlandHunter]

Can I ask, why does Solas hate the Frey Wardens? Is it just a personal dislike or is it connected to his plans somehow? I have tried to think of what about the Grey Wardens it is that he could dislike if it is connected to his plans and I come up short each time.

One thought was that they are all technically infected with the blight. So their existence is a constant threat in terms of the Old Gods. But I don't know enough about the Old Gods and their relation to Solas to put it together.

I also wonder if maybe the Grey Wardens are actually somehow the only ones who may be capable of stopping him. Again I don't know how, but I just am trying to make sense of his great disapproval of them.

Well the Grey Wardens are given vast amounts of powers over people and countries. They're pretty much above common law with little to no system of checks and balances to leash their power. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Their possibility for corruption is great and when they are corrupted things like Adamant happen.

 

The second thing is that their main goal is to kill Archdemons (aka Blighted Old Gods). The Old Gods are still in a very speculative spot right now with little actually known about them, but we do know that they were represented as/were dragons that were worshiped in the ancient times by humans. We don't know much about them, but Solas may detest their murder because he views it as an ignorant purging of ancient magics and history. You know, everything Solas hates XD Hope this cleared things up a bit for you!

[MayriyaNoori]

*sigh*

 

The only dream I ever had about any DA character was about Cullen, but not really. And all that was really going on was me running around some old castle type place looking for something, I have no idea what and Cullen was helping me look.

 We never found it.

 

That was it, and I'm not sure what that says about my subconscious, but apparently Cullen is there.

 

And what Cullen was doing in the Fade, I have no idea.

 

Also, I'm having fun with this dollmaker thing everyone is doing, but how do you take a picture of them when you are done?

[midnight tea]

If Solas owned Skyhold, does that mean we were using his bedroom? . Did he go into Uthenera in Skyhold?

 

LOL, no - don't think so. The castle we know was built long after the Veil was created structure and it's highly doubtful that what Skyhold is now resembles much what was here before. Even if Solas actually created the Veil in this exact spot and it's where he fell unconscious, I'm pretty sure he wan't napping in Skyhold proper (perhaps underneath it?).

 

.... Though I have to say, it'd be funny if he slept on the top of that tower - even better if it was used in final fight and overgrown with vines and in the Lavellan has to reach it to save him...

 

The princess goes to save her sleeping beauty! With a kiss, preferably! Returning the favor and all ;D

 

(I've actually been itching to make a reverse Sleeping Beauty fanart for a while now, lol)

[dragondreamer]

If Solas owned Skyhold, does that mean we were using his bedroom? . Did he go into Uthenera in Skyhold?

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

I was close .

 

If Solas was in uthenera in Skyhold, he must have been well hidden, since it was used by other groups over the years.

 

It's my headcanon that my Lavellan and Solas made the picture in her bedroom together.   Especially since it looks a little less refined, haha.

[TheEggCrusher]

Also, I'm having fun with this dollmaker thing everyone is doing, but how do you take a picture of them when you are done?

I just screenshotted. I have mac, so I clicked command shift 4. if you're not on mac, there's probably another way, but I don't know it x-x

[Kadan]

 

Also, I'm having fun with this dollmaker thing everyone is doing, but how do you take a picture of them when you are done?

 

 

I did a print screen and pasted it into paint to crop it to size then uploaded to photbucket. I couldn't find a way to share a link directly from the game.

 

As for Solas and Skyhold I had this idea that under Skyhold is an elaborate underground Temple and there are ancient elves sleeping. Anytime a human occupant got to close to finding them they were either killed or driven from Skyhold. I think that it says some were driven away, and then there was the one mage that was killed by lightening or an explosion fire something like that.

 

If the other elves knew that was his place it may not have been a safe place to sleep though and he may have hidden somewhere else.

 

And since we are talking about his home

 

[MayriyaNoori]

Oh boy, this may be complicated for me then. ><

[drosophila]

About where Solas slept: What do you think about the Western Approach?

 

In one of the location-specific comments Solas makes about the Western Approach, he says he has been there before and he nearly died from lack of water. If he's only been awake for a year, what could he have been doing there other than sleep near the area, and then he woke up?

 

Then last time people posted the prophecy trailer, I realized that around 1:12, the figure shown with the phrase "When he rises" is in a desert, reminiscent of the Western Approach.

 

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[FernRain]

LOL, no - don't think so. The castle we know was built long after the Veil was created structure and it's highly doubtful that what Skyhold is now resembles much what was here before. Even if Solas actually created the Veil in this exact spot and it's where he fell unconscious, I'm pretty sure he wan't napping in Skyhold proper (perhaps underneath it?).

 

.... Though I have to say, it'd be funny if he slept on the top of that tower - even better if it was used in final fight and overgrown with vines and in the Lavellan has to reach it to save him...

 

The princess goes to save her sleeping beauty! With a kiss, preferably! Returning the favor and all ;D

 

(I've actually been itching to make a reverse Sleeping Beauty fanart for a while now, lol)

 

But surely the master of the tower sleeps at the top! .

 

If Solas was in uthenera in Skyhold, he must have been well hidden, since it was used by other groups over the years.

 

I like this codex about one of Skyhold's early inhabitants:

 

I finish this for Master Ganot. His workings brought lightning. Much lightning. The rods are pools of metal now, and all his workings burned. Master was also struck. I write for him his last words because his fingers are ash and he did not live the night.

 

"The Veil is old here."

 

And look at him playing coy:

 

Inquisitor,

 

Your archivists have asked me how I came to know the name and location of Skyhold. To the latter, I may speak easily: when one walks in the Fade, any fortress that has seen enough battle shines as a beacon for spirits drawn to death and struggle, even after centuries of disuse.

 

As to the former, I myself cannot say for certain. The whispers of old memories carry a thousand such names upon their breath, and it is possible that this name belonged to some other keep in some other land. Still, it seems an auspicious name, for there is one peculiarity of language that your scholars seem to have missed. When the words reached my dreaming mind, Skyhold was not simply a fortress near the sky, nor was it some simplistic allusion to holding up the sky. Skyhold—Tarasyl'an te'las—was "the place where the sky was held back." Given your efforts against the Breach and our battle against a madman who seeks to assault the Black City in the Fade, I can only hope that the Inquisition's new stronghold lives up to its name.

 

Solas

 

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[midnight tea]

About where Solas slept: What do you think about the Western Approach?

 

In one of the location-specific comments Solas makes about the Western Approach, he says he has been there before and he nearly died from lack of water.

 

Wut? When did that happen? I don't recall that dialogue and I think I was everywhere in Western Approach 

[FernRain]

About where Solas slept: What do you think about the Western Approach?

 

In one of the location-specific comments Solas makes about the Western Approach, he says he has been there before and he nearly died from lack of water. If he's only been awake for a year, what could he have been doing there other than sleep near the area, and then he woke up?

 

Then last time people posted the prophecy trailer, I realized that around 1:12, the figure shown with the phrase "When he rises" is in a desert, reminiscent of the Western Approach.

 

Spoiler

 

Actually, just realized it's a fan trailer, so I don't know..

[drosophila]

Wut? When did that happen? I don't recall that dialogue and I think I was everywhere in Western Approach 

 

Off to dig it up, might take a while, but stay tuned!

[midnight tea]

But surely the master of the tower sleeps at the top! .

 

Well, I think we've all found through Descent that top and bottom can be relative terms, especially in Thedas

[Mims]

I have nothing of value to add to the current conversation. Except that this is currently the top post of reddit, and made me wish this was how Solas left for the TLDR; version of Trespasser. 

 

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