Same. Though I wish I had more time, and would gladly let my life be taken over
I'll have a lot less time for Solavellan soon. People will depend on me and I'm not afraid at all that I'll make stupid mistakes and screw things up for everybody. Nope.
I'm sure you'll do just fine with your uh...fly party.
I have to say that I thought the ending in Trespasser was very well written with regard to the Solas romance. And when I read the card at the end...I admit, I choked up. There were so many things my character wanted to say to him, to argue, logically about the fallacy of his desire to do what he wants to do. It left me unsatisfied, but in a very good way. The romantic tension was well done in both the main story and the DLC.
Just found this on reddit's DA page, relevant to current topic I think:
https://www.reddit.c...official_elven/
Edit: I now think this is why there's a lot of modern AUs and Solas/Non-Lavellan fic's I really can't get into. Solavellan's just... it works so well, from a story standpoint. And when you put them in different contexts, that may no longer be the case. Like, take a modern AU for example, where Solas is just some weird racist elf with a deep secret. Take his Dread Wolf aspect away, and yes he may still act like Solas, but he lacks the pathos and contrast that makes Solas as a character so interesting too. And on the other hand, if the other party isn't a Lavellan, then the struggle of loving this man, and the irony of falling in love with the Dread Wolf, just isn't so stark. Not to say other pairings or contexts can't work. They're just much harder for me to get into, as a reader.
Nailed it. I thought about it for a while and figured that one of the major appeals of Solasmance is that it definitely makes the girl feel special... Like, let's be honest here 
I usually am a bit, um, wary of such romances, in interactive stories or no, because it's really easy to mess it up, and instead of seeing the merits of a character myself, I'm reading the story that is sometimes trying to forcefully tell me that the character is special (even if just to another character) and I just don't frikking see it. The worst offenders of last years are, of course, "Twilight" and its fanfiction "50 Shades Of Gray", where the objects of interests (it's hard to call them characters, really) of main heroines seem to trip over themselves in declarations of how head-over-heals in love they are in our speshul little snowflakes.... *squiiiiiiiirms*
In DA I can accept that though, because aside from Solas being an actual character, we do have to earn both Solas's friendship and his affection - hell, we may be "Heralds of Andraste" with a special power, but unless our character makes an effort, they don't automatically earn anyone's respect aside from the amount that helps us finish the job all of Thedas expects our characters to finish anyway.
So there's that - the relationship feels special on both sides, because not only it was unexpected for Solas (he wasn't looking for it, hell he even actively avoided becoming close to the gremlins), but Lavellan actually had to prove she has value of her own (though not just in Solas's eyes) as a leader and as a character... therefore an actual ancient near-god and notorious rebel, who created the Veil, banished immortal Mage-Kings and plans to destroy the world falling for her so hard that he almost gave up everything for her (and him changing his plans isn't yet off the table!) doesn't feel like your typical romance novel 
Dirthamen will see you through!
Good point. HAIL DIRTHAMEN!
I'm sure you'll do just fine with your uh...fly party.
Thanks! By people I actually meant people Flies are not real people to me
Are they mere gremlins to you? 
Are you soon to be preoccupied with restoring your People, who depend on you, and thus the not-people flies are going to burn in the raw chaos? Is that what will be taking up your time?
I had to.
I really love the rogue flirt, but then I play one so I'm probably biased. Still, it's a nice change from playing mage, which I also tend to do a lot of.
There is a rogue-flirt?
Nailed it. I thought for a while about that and figured that one of the major appeals of that romance is that Solasmance definitely makes a girl feel special... Like, let's be honest here
I usually am a bit, um, wary of such romances, in interactive stories or no, because it's really easy to mess it up, and instead of seeing the merits of a character myself, I'm reading the story that is sometimes trying to forcefully tell me that the character is special (even if just for different character) and I just don't frikking see it. The worst offenders of last years are, of course, "Twilight" and
its fanfiction"50 Shades Of Gray", where the objects of interests (it's hard to call them characters, really) of main heroines seem to trip over themselves in declarations of how head-over-heals in love they are in our speshul little snowflakes.... *squiiiiiiiirms*
In DA I can accept that though, because aside from Solas being an actual character we do have to make an effort and earn both Solas friendship and his affection - hell, we may be "Heralds of Andraste" with a special power, but unless our character makes an effort, they don't automatically earn anyone's respect aside from that that helps us finish the job all of Thedas expects our characters to finish anyway.
So there's that - the relationship feels special on both sides, because not only it was unexpected for Solas (he wasn't looking for it, hell he even actively avoided becoming close to the gremlins), but because Lavellan actually had to prove she has value of her own (though not just in Solas's eyes) as a leader and as a character, therefore an actual ancient near-god and notorious rebel, who created the Veil and banished immortal Mage-Kings and plans to destroy the world falling for her so hard that he almost gave up everything for her (and him changing his plans isn't yet off the table!) doesn't feel like your typical romance novel
Yes, well said.
This is why I gave my left arm for this romance. No regrets.
Ok technically it was my Quizzy. And everybody's Quizzy's, Solasmanced or otherwise. Shush the joke just doesn't work with so many qualifiers attached.
Are they mere gremlins to you?
I had to.
Well, they are research animals I have to be impartial towards and sacrifice for the good of humanity... Humanity being my people...
So, yes!
Nailed it. I thought for a while about that and figured that one of the major appeals of that romance is that Solasmance definitely makes a girl feel special... Like, let's be honest here
I usually am a bit, um, wary of such romances, in interactive stories or no, because it's really easy to mess it up, and instead of seeing the merits of a character myself, I'm reading the story that is sometimes trying to forcefully tell me that the character is special (even if just for different character) and I just don't frikking see it. The worst offenders of last years are, of course, "Twilight" and
its fanfiction"50 Shades Of Gray", where the objects of interests (it's hard to call them characters, really) of main heroines seem to trip over themselves in declarations of how head-over-heals in love they are in our speshul little snowflakes.... *squiiiiiiiirms*
In DA I can accept that though, because aside from Solas being an actual character we do have to make an effort and earn both Solas friendship and his affection - hell, we may be "Heralds of Andraste" with a special power, but unless our character makes an effort, they don't automatically earn anyone's respect aside from that that helps us finish the job all of Thedas expects our characters to finish anyway.
So there's that - the relationship feels special on both sides, because not only it was unexpected for Solas (he wasn't looking for it, hell he even actively avoided becoming close to the gremlins), but because Lavellan actually had to prove she has value of her own (though not just in Solas's eyes) as a leader and as a character, therefore an actual ancient near-god and notorious rebel, who created the Veil and banished immortal Mage-Kings and plans to destroy the world falling for her so hard that he almost gave up everything for her (and him changing his plans isn't yet off the table!) doesn't feel like your typical romance novel
Darn it! Out of likes.
Well, they are research animals I have to be impartial towards and sacrifice for the good of humanity... Humanity being my people...
So, yes!
We shall uh....redeem you...
No, wait, carry on.
We shall uh....redeem you...
No, wait, carry on.
I can only be redeemed by falling in love with a fly. It hasn't happened yet, even though I spend every morning collecting virgins, and go through at least 20 of them per day, often a lot more I just haven't found one with a rare and marvelous spirit who could see my softer side.
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On the theory thread someone posted this. It still makes me feel Solas is not the bad guy but could be if we don't tread lightly.
http://corseque.tumb...st/130097404017
http://corseque.tumb...st/130122454682
I can only be redeemed by falling in love with a fly.
Noooooooooooooooo.
The images I have in my head now.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
(I wonder how many times Solas went Noooooooooo when he realized he was falling in love with Lavellan? Dude must have had so many wtf moments, honestly)
Out of likes again. Probably still your fault though.
Tel'abelas, falon
(if it makes you feel better I'm out of likes too)
Nailed it. I thought for a while about that and figured that one of the major appeals of that romance is that Solasmance definitely makes a girl feel special... Like, let's be honest here
Oh, totally agreed. Part of the fantasy in BioWare games is that of being a special, special snowflake: to the entire world as a hero, and to your love interest as a person. IMO it's why the romance content is so popular, and also so prone to Fan Dumb.
The Solas romance is a great example of tropes being put to brilliant use. A lot of the elements of the romance are familiar and very popular ones: the immortal lover, the super special mortal, the duty that cannot be forsworn, star-crossed romance, etc. It's like baking: combining the components with subtlety and care gets you a cake. Or a Solas romance. Tossing them all into a bucket and saying go gets you a mess. Or Twilight
(I wonder how many times Solas went Noooooooooo when he realized he was falling in love with Lavellan? Dude must have had so many wtf moments, honestly)
Lavellan doesn't have an exoskeleton or segmented body. I think he's doing just fine
Lavellan doesn't have an exoskeleton or segmented body. I think he's doing just fine
Honestly I wouldn't put it past Solas to fall in love with some weird spirit who looks nothing like a humanoid.
Lavellan doesn't have an exoskeleton or segmented body. I think he's doing just fine
Maybe not, but she still wasn't one of his People 
(I'm sorry, I will be forever salty about this )
Honestly I wouldn't put it past Solas to fall in love with some weird spirit who looks nothing like a humanoid.
Neither would I. Some of the LIs mention physical traits they prefer; Sera's into qunari ladies, and Bull has a thing for redheads. Solas doesn't. It's probably the spirit that matters to him.
So if appearance is no object...krogan ladies like scars, and Solas has a few. Let's hook him up with Urdnot Bakara! She can talk sense into him, or failing that, point a Claymore shotgun at him
I have a friend who is a Cullenmancer but she keeps track on the Solasmance and after Trespasser, even she agreed that there's something about the Solas romance that feels special. To quote, she mentioned that the storyline us Solasmancers got is the stuff of (Dragon Age) legend.
Random question. I'm plotting out a post-Trespasser... thing... and I'm just wondering what effect you guys think the loss of the anchor has on rift mages?
I mean, obviously Solas manages because he's Solas. And then there's 'I Am Your Trainer', but she doesn't seem that stable...
Surely there'd be a loss of power of some sort?
Tel'abelas, falon
(if it makes you feel better I'm out of likes too)
Oh, totally agreed. Part of the fantasy in BioWare games is that of being a special, special snowflake: to the entire world as a hero, and to your love interest as a person. IMO it's why the romance content is so popular, and also so prone to Fan Dumb.
The Solas romance is a great example of tropes being put to brilliant use. A lot of the elements of the romance are familiar and very popular ones: the immortal lover, the super special mortal, the duty that cannot be forsworn, star-crossed romance, etc. It's like baking: combining the components with subtlety and care gets you a cake. Or a Solas romance. Tossing them all into a bucket and saying go gets you a mess. Or Twilight
Have all my likes For a long time now I followed the philosophy that when it comes to creative works (well, everything really) the WHAT is not as important as HOW. What we are using when creating or doing something (genres, tropes, archetypes, etc) doesn't really matter as much as how they're implemented. Things we thought have been done by everyone and their dog can still be made interesting and original if done right, while I saw many (many, many, maaaaaany) people trip over themselves trying to do stuff that is - often very superficially - unique, or "original" in name only.
Really, if people know what they're doing and combine that with passion for both project and the craft, usually they make things good - oftentimes really good 
I can only be redeemed by falling in love with a fly.
I just laughed so hard.
Also imagining what any lurkers might be thinking if they stumbled upon this.
Honestly I wouldn't put it past Solas to fall in love with some weird spirit who looks nothing like a humanoid.
That's actually true. You know how some people make super ugly PC's just to make fun of how the LI's keep calling them handsome/beautiful? For some reason, when someone did that and made a Lavellan who romanced Solas, it wasn't funny at all. Solas's saying "You are so beautiful." still came out incredibly sincere. Like, he really isn't in love with Quizzy because of her appearance. It's because of the soul beneath.
*sigh* And I just made myself sad again
Neither would I. Some of the LIs mention physical traits they prefer; Sera's into qunari ladies, and Bull has a thing for redheads. Solas doesn't. It's probably the spirit that matters to him.
So if appearance is no object...krogan ladies like scars, and Solas has a few. Let's hook him up with Urdnot Bakara! She can talk sense into him, or failing that, point a Claymore shotgun at him
That's an ME reference, isn't it? Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure that it's the spirit that matters to him. Though what in the spirit exacly - no idea.
There is a rogue-flirt?
Yes! And a different one for warriors, and a third for mages. Here's the rogue one.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=55MSX4T1xig
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