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Well he took Inquisitor's hand, I will take his head. For someone who is suppose to be a God... Can't believe he is going with the oldest villain cliche plan of ''I am gonna make the elves Overlords again '' that not worked in the past and caused Elves to become 2nd rate citizens when the rest of the world rebelled and literally destroyed the Elven overlords and their cities.

 

Also it is so arrogant to think that only Elves have real 'Gods'. I bet his moronic and barbaric plan will awaken some other God to oppose him or hell we don't even need Gods to fight for our behalf, how many times we defeated world ending threats ? And Solas, who saw it , knew it ....and yet he still makes himself and his people whom he supposedly care about making a target for a 2nd genocide where the already racist people will find their slaughter be justified.

 

I literally can't see a good thing from his plan and he suppose to be a God...with a mind beyond mortals to understand... I am disappointed. Heck I respect Archdemons more than him, at least they are just corrupted by the Darkspawn and become agents of Chaos...Solas.. he has no such excuse to be the stupid evil villain, he chose to be that. In my mind, he is worse than the Darkspawn...



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Not gonna lie, back when I was still playing DA2 I also had the hots for Justice!Anders as well, to a certain extent...  :ph34r: 
 
*hides away in shame*


My only shame with it is that I think it means I have the hots for Justice. My Hawke loved Anders.....but me......well......

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Just finished catching up to the thread and I see everyone's talking about eye colors. :P

 

I'm Asian so my eyes are pretty much dark brown, almost black. (Which I find kind of boring tbh.)  :mellow: I'm a sucker for blue eyes (and blue is my favorite color) and green eyes so I don't think I've ever had a PC with brown eyes (except maybe my Human Ranger in GW2). My Mahariel has amber eyes, Hawke has ice-blue eyes, and my Lavellan has blue-green eyes. I like my Shepard's eye color the best. It's kind of a blueish purple color which I find so pretty!

 

 

I don't usually make my PCs have brown eyes, since everyone around me has brown eyes but maybe I'll make my next DA PC have brown eyes.

 

 

My Shepard had unnatural dyed red hair and blue eyes, but I seem to just feel it out when creating my characters. A couple of my SWTOR characters also have brown eyes. Though sometimes I make very multiracial looking characters, like one of my Jedi. She's tan brown with Asian eyes that are blue. My mage Lavellan looks like this:

 

Speaking of gray eyes.

 

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Oh yeah!! :o

 

Cee! I have no idea if it's already the next day in your timezone (it is already the next day here where I am) so I just wanted to wish you a very Happy Birthday! :wizard:

 

:D <3



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Hehe, yay, frilly cakes. :D
 
 
The story I'm actually working on may include my Lavellan's birthday, sort of, only she's turning 17 and I am definitely past 17. ;)
 
Your latest entry went to...unexpected places, but in a good way. :)


Well, gotta keep them on their toes. Can't all be fluffy.

Unless the fluff was the unexpected part. I guess it works both ways.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY :wizard:

 

Happy Birthday, Cee!!!!  :wizard:

Have a frilly little cake!

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Seconded. Happy birthday, thread cinnamon roll :)

 

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 hehe love you guys.

 

 

Now I actually want cake. ^_^
 

 


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happy%2Bbirthday%2Bquotes%2B%2B(3)%2B(FI Cee! 



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Well, gotta keep them on their toes. Can't all be fluffy.

Unless the fluff was the unexpected part. I guess it works both ways.

 

It all seemed like an adventure fitting the reading material. :) Like the scenario could be easily rewritten for inclusion.


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I literally can't see a good thing from his plan and he suppose to be a God...with a mind beyond mortals to understand... I am disappointed. Heck I respect Archdemons more than him, at least they are just corrupted by the Darkspawn and become agents of Chaos...Solas.. he has no such excuse to be the stupid evil villain, he chose to be that. In my mind, he is worse than the Darkspawn...

 

No one here really thinks his plan is good either, at least not going with what we currently know. It's quite possible there is more to the story and it won't be such a black and white, evil villain type of trope Solas gets tacked with. Especially considering Patrick Weekes is his writer. Dude can write some really good gray characters, so I have hopes for Solas too. I'd be just as disappointed to not see that fleshed out.


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It all seemed like an adventure fitting the reading material. :) Like the scenario could be easily rewritten for inclusion.


Mmm....I have been debating now how utterly cheesy fluffy Cassandra would eat this up I want this to get. Or steamy. Gotta keep tone so not sure what direction to go.......*mind wanders* I don't need to decided anytime soon I guess.

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I have a thing...that I did...

I've been practicing with my tablet and I drew bunch of very unfinished/unrefined floaty head sketches of Solas and Nia that I compiled..but i'm terribly embarrassed by them.. (need to practice more!) but I want to share.

SO

Here they are.

Spoiler

*runs away to hide forever*


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I respect Archdemons more than him, at least they are just corrupted by the Darkspawn and become agents of Chaos...Solas.. he has no such excuse to be the stupid evil villain, he chose to be that. In my mind, he is worse than the Darkspawn...

 

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I have a thing...that I did...
I've been practicing with my tablet and I drew bunch of very unfinished/unrefined floaty head sketches of Solas and Nia that I compiled..but i'm terribly embarrassed by them.. (need to practice more!) but I want to share.
SO
Here they are.

Spoiler

*runs away to hide forever*


Oooooo, I like!
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Well, time for some Solavellan feels. 

 

Source: http://apostitutes.t...0179913211/insp

 

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:crying:


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Oooooo, I like!

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Bwahaha. And for today's totally crackpot theory found elsewhere on the forum: Cole = Falon'Din. :D

 

Yeah, not feeling it.


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Bwahaha. And for today's totally crackpot theory found elsewhere on the forum: Cole = Falon'Din. :D
 
Yeah, not feeling it.


.............I.............where is said post? I got to read this.

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He doesn't really have any good words about anybody, really. He calls people brutish and petty and I don't really know what he says about the dwarves, though he did say to Varric something about dwarves being pretty much zombie-like ;P He seems to have something of a slightly better opinion of the Dalish for being able to raise someone among them 'with the spirit like Quizzy', but he voiced his full opinion about them earlier in the game with elf Inquisitors anyway.

 

So while I think his dislike towards Qunari may be deepened by what he knows about them (how they were created and stuff?) or because of the Qun philosophy itself, which doesn't teach most Qunari how to be a fully-realized person (which is why many Tal-Vashoth turn to savage monsters, as he explained to Bull) I don't think they're that much more gremlin'y than others.

 

... Also, did anybody found it curious that elves seem to be veeeery susceptible to the Qun? In fact, I kind of get the feeling that in general they may be a bit more impressionable than others - maybe it's a legacy of them being somewhat closer to spirits than others, or maybe it's a legacy of rules of the Evanuris (well, most of them were slaves, so...) and the way they ruled them still holds some sort of tangible sway over them or how susceptible to certain influences they can be?

 

Most elves live under oppression.  The Qun supposedly treats everyone as equal, thus, no oppression.  Granted, you also don't get to be a person, but for an elf who's only ever known hardship and mistreatment at the hands of humans, the Qun could look extremely tempting--almost like a paradise.  A society where even elves get enough to eat, share in the fruits of their labor, and are not either ignored or addressed with racist slurs or physical abuse?  Yeah.  I can see why the appeal...

 

Random rant - got bored and went through some random fanfiction and I have to ask... in what world or play-through Solas's eyes are anything other than clear grey?

 

I've seen people describe his eyes as gray-blue, green or even stark or icy blue eyes and I'm always like... wut? Am I seeing something wrong :huh:? I have two monitors calibrated differently to work with graphic stuff so I... don't think so?

 

Plus, grey suits him - with him being 'grey' in terms of morals and also with grey eyes being generally associated with wisdom, since the Greek goddess of wisdom, Athena is oftentimes called 'grey-eyed' (it's actually misconception based on wonky translation, but it stuck). Also, this: http://tvtropes.org/...p/Main/GrayEyes

 

Well, someone did once post the HD texture of Solas's eyes.  It was a mix of grey, blue, and violet.  On my screen, his eyes tend toward greyish violet, and when they glow, I get a more violet tinted blue--the screenshots others show look much bluer when they glow, so it doesn't appear to be just my monitor.  Could it be something to do with one's graphics card and how that interacts with the game engine?  Could it be lighting?  Difference in human perception?  All of the above?

 

I have no idea.

 

Regarding Solas as pride demon:  This surprises anyone?  I don't think he's possessed by one, but he is or was one.  Spirits become elves.  Solas may have begun as pride.  We romanced a greater pride demon.

 

On the more complex end of things, though--elves started out as more complex than usual spirits, it seems, so complexity is fitting--Solas points out that whether a spirit is a demon or spirit is the spirit's decision.  And, pride is not always bad.  Pride demons embody the all-encompassing hubris kind of pride, but what about the quieter pride of satisfaction with who one is, or what one has achieved?  And can Solas not be wise and proud at the same time?  I think he can.  The Pride-Wolf is Solas, and Solas is the Pride-Wolf.  They are not separate, even if they are presented as such.  Both are part of his self portrait.  Both are Solas.  Whether he has an alternate form or whether the wolf is symbolic, it's hard to say.  Kind of hoping he does have a wolf form though.  I want to see it.

 

Other thoughts, from earlier today:

 

Solas likely began to see Inquisitor as a person after the fall of Haven.  That's when, at Skyhold, he begins painting the Inquisitor's story as a fresco in the rotunda.  Previously he seems to have preferred to paint himself and his own actions (we don't know for sure though--maybe we will see more Solas paintings in DA4 and they will have other subjects).  I remember pointing out that frescoes are a particularly enduring kind of painting--they aren't just ON the wall, they are actually PART of the wall.  Solas is also painting the fresco on an interior wall where it's less likely to crumble away quickly should Skyhold fall to ruin.

 

There's significance in this.  At that point he's expecting the Inquisitor, and the Inquisition, to die in his plan to take the orb.  But he wants to be sure that the Inquisitor's actions, and likely sacrifice, are remembered, even then.  Even if he hates the Inquisitor.  His way of saying you didn't die in vain, maybe?  Or just that he values you (even if he doesn't like you), which may be enough.

 

The fresco is, effectively, the best and maybe only gift Solas feels he can give you.  And unlike what he says about a gift for Sera, the fresco is not "human and fleeting."  (It's elven style and we know his frescoes tend to last for thousands of years, in the Crossroads and at the excavation in Darvaraad.)


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.............I.............where is said post? I got to read this.

 

http://forum.bioware...ple/?p=19751422

 

I seriously want to wake up as the new protagonist in DA4 as Sylaise. We got all the others running around, why not get to be one? :P


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http://forum.bioware...ple/?p=19751422

I seriously want to wake up as the new protagonist in DA4 as Sylaise. We got all the others running around, why not get to be one? :P

What did I just read?

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http://forum.bioware...ple/?p=19751422

 

I seriously want to wake up as the new protagonist in DA4 as Sylaise. We got all the others running around, why not get to be one? :P

 

Well now. That was quite a long and interesting read.  :o



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/rolls out of the lurker shadows and into the thread.

 

A few pages ago you lot were talking about giving cookies away to lurkers. I'll take one, thank you  ^_^.

 

Anyway, I love this thread. It makes for good reading while I'm passing the time at work tbh. In fact, it makes for good reading even when I haven't got time to pass. There's a lot of great discussion here about a really nuanced (and divisive) character so....mad love to you all.

 

That being said, I popped in here to contribute one of my personal songs for Solas: A Thousand Years by Sting.

 

It came up on shuffle in my playlist this morning. I listened and went "Oh. My." because it really is a very Solas song (and, to a degree, a Solavellan one as well), from the atmosphere of the melancholy melody, to the lyrics that span thousands of years.  The song is austere and incredibly passionate. 

 

 

 

 
And did I mention how frighteningly applicable the lyrics are?
 
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I could post the whole song, really, but here are excerpts that are very Solas-centric to me:
 
 
 
If it takes another thousand years, a thousand wars, 
The towers rise to numberless floors in space.
I could shed another million tears, a million breaths,
A million names but only one truth to face.
 
A million roads, a million fears,
A million suns, ten million years of uncertainty. 
I could speak a million lies, a million songs,
A million rights, a million wrongs in this balance of time.
 
...
 
I may be numberless, I may be innocent. 
I may know many things, I may be ignorant. 
Or I could ride with kings and conquer many lands,
Or win this world at cards and let it slip my hands. 
I could be cannon food, destroyed a thousand times, 
Reborn as fortune's child to judge another's crimes, 
Or wear this pilgrim's cloak, or be a common thief. 
I've kept this single faith, I have but one belief:
 
I still love you. 
I still want you.
 
 
 
 
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EDIT: had to properly tag the youtube video!

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Guys u have to grab this hairstyle it's just gorgeous :) Much  <3  to Korikoc

http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/920/?

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Guys u have to grab this hairstyle it's just gorgeous :) Much  <3  to Korikoc
http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/920/?

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What pretty hair. I wish we had that hair in within game, because all we get is somewhat crappy hair (besides the tomboyish medium length hair, that was pretty hair. Used it to make my lovely Hawke. Hawke has such a nice face within game...)

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Guys u have to grab this hairstyle it's just gorgeous :) Much  <3  to Korikoc

http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/920/?

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That hairstyle is gorgeous!  :o Would definitely love to use that hair for my Lavellan in Trespasser.



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Yea i love it it's like i had short hair before and after 2 years it just seems right that our hair had grown :D