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Why would the devs present the player with the option of possible redemption for Solas only to have him commit such an irredeemable act as this suggested blood sacrifice. He's ruthless, but that is just silly. I can see having to choose between him and the death of a companion, but not mass blood sacrifice.

Ah hahahah. Watch them make you choose between your Inquisitor and Solas.



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Because guys know that if male elves existed they would be stealing all the chick's away so it's a defense mechanism of sorts.... :P

Pff maybe in the universe where all chicks actually liked men with girly bodies with less hair than they have :P

 

 

Ah hahahah. Watch them make you choose between your Inquisitor and Solas.

And I bet at least half would choose Solas. Sad as that is.


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Ah hahahah. Watch them make you choose between your Inquisitor and Solas.

 

Seeing as a low approval Inquisitor can't redeem him, I bet a dying "ultimate sacrifice" friend/lover one would snap him out of it.



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Pff maybe in the universe where all chicks actually liked men with girly bodies with less hair than they have :P

 

We'll just feed them the crap that Iron Bull drinks.  Put some chest on your chest! :D


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Art break.  :ph34r:

 

Marvel crossover: Solas talks about his woes with Loki over tea.

 

Post-Trespasser: Solas and Lavellan in a happy scene where the Veil is destroyed but all of Thedas is safe. ; v ; (If only...)

 

Some nice pencil sketches of Lavellan, Solas kissing Lavellan, and male Lavellan kissing female Lavellan.

 

University AU: Professor Solas and his Lab Director, Lavellan, flirting between lectures. ;)

 

Vhenan pls. :P

 

Sweet Little Dreams. A cute artwork of Solas and Lavellan's child (with a wolf cub) that may never happen. :(


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But... never mind.

 

 

Solas tells a romanced Inquisitor that part of the reason he doesn't want her to join him is because he doesn't want her to see what he'll become (considering Solas is implied to be the one who killed Felassan in TME, it's he can have a very ruthless streak and dark side he feels that Lavellan is best not seeing), and another reason is that only death awaits him down that path, and he doesn't want her to be dragged with.

 

But I don't see the elves joining him because they have nothing to lose; rather, they have something to gain. In DA2, many elves joined the Qunari because they were looking for a better life; yet other elves felt it was better to remain with humans and retain their community and culture than lose even that to the Qun. After Trespasser, the elves leave for Fen'Harel even if the PC made many strides for elves' rights. I think it's more likely that they would join because they felt Fen'Harel was offering them a better life than the ones humans offer ("you do all the work and make all the sacrifices, and I'll reap all the benefits"), than to offer them a "noble" sacrifice that neither they nor their people (family, friends, community) will ever benefit from. (They might as well stay with humans in that case; humans are good about using them but then not letting them reap the fruits of their labor.)

 

But that's not the point I'm trying to make. I don't think it's in Solas' character to claim he's restoring this world to help modern elves, but then turn around and only use modern elves as blood sacrifices to restore the ancient world only for "already ancient elves" to enjoy. That's Evanuris stuff, but not Solas (for all his many faults.) Yet, apparently everyone else does. I don't get it.

just speculating but doesnt solas say at some point if (I think) if high approval inqy calls him a monster or we were just your pawns "just more people Ive used in my blah blah I cant remember" so he's not above using people to get what he wants as we know. And also when you ask him about blood magic he tells you that it cuts you off from the fade...now if solas, and I dont really think so just to be clear, used elves to take down the veil by blood magic it would kind of make sense with the walking deaths path, dont want you to see what I become (mass murdereretc), only a path he can take because if the veil and the waking world merge together yet he's cut off from the fade he would essentially be making himself tranquil??? I doubt it but you never know. If that were the case it would be in keeping with his tragic yet ruthless character? And keeping with the murderknife vs save theme as well.

Whatever happens DA4 is going to be an elven bloodbath one way or another once the other races catch a whiff of the plan.

Edit:it would also show why he thinks you should give up on him and that there is no glory in what he is doing and all that. But that goes with the world burning as well. Im so confused. Hurry up DA4



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We'll just feed them the crap that Iron Bull drinks.  Put some chest on your chest! :D

Rofl, though even Iron Bull is hairless :P You can put some chest on a man's chest easy, just send him to Mc Donalds.



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Rofl, though even Iron Bull is hairless :P You can put some chest on a man's chest easy, just send him to Mc Donalds.

 

Since testosterone promotes the growth of body hair, and the qunari body models are hairless but clearly testosterone'd up as all hell, I had a stupid headcanon that they plucked their chest hair.  Maybe they have slumber parties, where they wax and paint each other's chests and talk crap about the filthy bas they're about to murder.


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It's a possibility.  No one's saying that's what he'll do, or what he has to do, or that it's ok, or in-character, or...whatever.  It's just speculation that's being tossed around, same as all the other speculation we've been doing.  We are, I hope, still allowed to speculate about potential bad outcomes as well as good ones?  Or is that getting tossed on Ave's list of things the thread can't have? :P

Unfortunately, it seems that very few are speculating about potential good outcomes!!! :(

 

Like hardly any, even here...pessimism and negativity abound...

 

Go Team Optimism!?! :crying:


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And I bet at least half would choose Solas. Sad as that is.

 

Oh, it wouldn't even be that easy a decision to make. If they make you choose between your Inquisitor and Solas it would be some heart-wrenching and terribly agonizing choice where neither way is a good way but you have to select the least bad option. And that won't necessarily be your Inquisitor. :P

 

I live for those kinds of decisions.



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Unfortunately, it seems that very few are speculating about potential good outcomes!!! :(

 

Like hardly any, even here...pessimism and negativity abound...

 

Go Team Optimism!?! :crying:

 

I did say he might be rescuing the modern elves who believe him instead of murdering them all.  Optimism! :D  And IMO, it is more plausible that he's trying to save at least some of the elves.  Even if he hates quizzy, he tries to connect with Sera, he expresses admiration for Briala's attempts to help her people, and he does feel for the plight of the elves.  He's clearly looking for something of his people in the modern elves, and he calls them to his side regardless of his opinion on quizzy.


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Since testosterone promotes the growth of body hair, and the qunari body models are hairless but clearly testosterone'd up as all hell, I had a stupid headcanon that they plucked their chest hair.  Maybe they have slumber parties, where they wax and paint each other's chests and talk crap about the filthy bas they're about to murder.

No headcanons for the explanation, all I know is DA 4 better have a chest hair edit in the CC. My inquisitor having no chest hair is like Lincoln without his hat, or Californian women without fake boobs.


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Oh, it wouldn't even be that easy a decision to make. If they make you choose between your Inquisitor and Solas it would be some heart-wrenching and terribly agonizing choice where neither way is a good way but you have to select the least bad option. And that won't necessarily be your Inquisitor. :P

 

I live for those kinds of decisions.

Heh, if it's a choice between my Quizzy dying and anything, it's a guaranteed vote for me :P

 

Then again... Cass... luckily my Cass isn't trying to end the world as we know it though. ;)



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Pff maybe in the universe where all chicks actually liked men with girly bodies with less hair than they have :P

 

 

And I bet at least half would choose Solas. Sad as that is.

:lol: Yeah, my husband could pass for a bear - though I do like that one week out of the year he bothers to shave.

 

Depending on which character I'm running, I might choose Solas. I'd just have to know more about what was going on in the plot. I mean, it's not like whatever Solas was trying to stop the first time ever actually went away.

 

Seeing as a low approval Inquisitor can't redeem him, I bet a dying "ultimate sacrifice" friend/lover one would snap him out of it.

I don't know, he's sacrificed a lot of people close to him it seems like. I think it would have to come with a heavy clue bat to the face which included information he didn't have before about what would happen if he kept on his current course.


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snip...

 

Unless there's some kind of pocket-universe and/or fallout shelter he's going to throw the Elves in to survive or ease the transition to getting their old levels of insane magical power, it seems like a really dubious plan?

 

Or he's banking on none of them surviving and repopulating with any Elves trapped along with the Evanuris when he sealed them away?  

Remember he DID tell the Elf protecting the well of Mythral that there are "pockets" where there are Elhevan .  Abelas (is that his name?) replies, "elhevan like you?"  Solas says, "Yes."

 

Edit: well crap, I looked on YouTube for this conversation and there weren't any with the choices that I made.  But I'm absolutely sure in the ones I chose Solas tells him Abelas to search for them and Abelas "Elvahn such as you?" Solas replies "Elvahn such as me" and my inquisitor was thinking "what?"


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Ah hahahah. Watch them make you choose between your Inquisitor and Solas.

Now *this* I would totally expect. :P
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Yes, as I said, I'm fully aware of how ruthless he is. Mass blood sacrifice for what purpose though? He already has access to the Fade via the eluvians. I imagine he needs another orb to tear down the Veil, we know they have them in Tevinter, not lying around, but they are there. It just seems if he is in dire need of a power boost, and isn't afraid of dying, then he would probably go for red lyrium before blood sacrifice because it would be more efficient.
I'm not saying he has any good plans for the modern elves, if he is indeed responsible for their disappearance, I'm just extremely doubtful that blood sacrifice is on his agenda. I could see him using them against what is left of the Inquisition to spare as many of his own people as possible, which would be pretty ugly, especially for a Lavellan, but if the PC gets in his way...

 

Well if we look at it this way. The Orb is gone, and we know the Magisters used elf blood to enter the Black City. Unless Solas finds another means or opens an Eluvian like Kieran did, it might be what's left. As I said before, I'm bothered by the hints he has some demonic form within.

 

 

 don't know, he's sacrificed a lot of people close to him it seems like. I think it would have to come with a heavy clue bat to the face which included information he didn't have before about what would happen if he kept on his current course.

 

Proving he IS just like the Magisters? Making him see that he IS a monster? Something has to make him stop... unless something worse rises up and he needs our help.



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Unfortunately, it seems that very few are speculating about potential good outcomes!!! :(

 

Like hardly any, even here...pessimism and negativity abound...

 

Go Team Optimism!?! :crying:

 

This stuff does tend to go in cycles around here. We get it all out of our systems. :P


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Love that show! Well the later seasons are starting to drag but I still watch.

Anyone else like Once Upon a Time?

 

I watch both, but even though The Walking Dead's most recent season just got added to Netflix, I'm feeling a bit meh about starting it. And Once Upon a Time is reusing the memory wipe thing. Tell a linear story for once, geez.



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D'aww... Who could say no to this face?

Of course I'll help you tear down the Veil!  :wub:

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Anyhow, the dialogue with low-approval Inky seems to hint that Inky would survive the Veil dropping and that's why Solas can't tell them why the current world has to die, so he won't give them tools to use against him.


What do you mean, what does he say?

I wondered if that might be the case, since the Quizzy was able to survive being pulled into the raw fade physically, which seemed to perplex Solas an awful lot, but I'm assuming the IQ no longer has that ability now with the anchor gone. Or did she have it to begin with, and that was the reason she survived along with Cory in the first place?

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You know what I would love? If there was an option to save Solas at the expense of other lives and he outright despised you for it. So you could save him, but he'd no longer love or care for you. It doesn't have to be the only choice to save him, but perhaps the easiest and most apparent one. Because 2saving" someone doesn't always end in happiness.


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:lol: Yeah, my husband could pass for a bear - though I do like that one week out of the year he bothers to shave.

 

Depending on which character I'm running, I might choose Solas. I'd just have to know more about what was going on in the plot. I mean, it's not like whatever Solas was trying to stop the first time ever actually went away.

Ha, so would I :D

 

https://scontent-mia...f60&oe=569BD949

 

Even have the bear tattoo ;)

 

As for Sollypoo, It depends on quite a bit. But if there was a way to redeem him and make his plan work without ending this world as we know it, I'd at least consider it. But this is giving me a really bad Mass Effect 3 vibe now.

 

Pick, red blue or green!

 

Red, kill Solas and lead to the doom of all elves.

 

Blue, merge with Solas, rule the new world as the dread wolf.

 

Green, sacrifice yourself so Solas can use your spirit to let all life survive new world order's transition. Everyone becomes an elf (Just glows green and gets pointy ears added.)


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What do you mean, what does he say?

I wondered if that might be the case, since the Quizzy was able to survive being pulled into the raw fade physically, which seemed to perplex Solas an awful lot, but I'm assuming the IQ no longer has that ability now with the anchor gone. Or did she have it to begin with, and that was the reason she survived along with Cory in the first place?

 

The Divine said that the anchor is why she made it safely there. Like a needle and thread. When you stab a hole and pull the needle through (the anchor), the thread follows to the other side, and the thread is the Inquisitor. His surprise at their survival makes me think he thought we weren't strong enough to live in the Fade.



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D'aww... Who could say no to this face?
Of course I'll help you tear down the Veil!  :wub:

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They did entirely too well with his face. Really.

Which makes me terrified if they put an elf LI in the next game. By then they will have mastered this whole Frostbite engine thing and I can see myself accidently breaking things on my desk at the sight of a new elvhen glory.

Doomed. Just doomed.
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