Wow i'm in with ya on that one
Who needs clothes when you're a goddess? 
In all seriousness, if they do go the apotheosis route with the PC (I doubt it but they did in Baldur's Gate), I hope we have a choice to turn it down. I can see very few circumstances under which my Lavellan would want to step up to the level of Solas and the Evanuris.
No, don't give up on an idea!
Sorry, this is kind of my soapbox. Fan work, whether it's cosplay or fanfiction or fanart, is for yourself. It's tempting to compare yourself to others, and IMO sometimes impossible not to, but ultimately, you do it for fun. Or to improve your skills. Or just to mess around because you're bored. Ultimately, it's about you and what you want to write.
I am seconding this! And even if you think your writing sucks, the only way to improve is by writing more. And sometimes it doesn't even really matter if it sucks or not, so long as you enjoyed writing it, or you learned something from the experience 
And if you're scared you're just not talented enough, please watch this video:
It's about art, but you can apply it to anything really
No, don't give up on an idea!
Sorry, this is kind of my soapbox. Fan work, whether it's cosplay or fanfiction or fanart, is for yourself. It's tempting to compare yourself to others, and IMO sometimes impossible not to, but ultimately, you do it for fun. Or to improve your skills. Or just to mess around because you're bored. Ultimately, it's about you and what you want to write.
This. People have written about similar concepts or even been influenced by one another since the beginning of literature. People are creative and a lot of ideas have been used or reused in varying ways for millennia. If you want to write something, write it for you, for whatever reason you want. I just write things because the ideas and feelings sometimes need to get out and I can use it to improve my own skills. If others read and like it, that's something I really appreciate. But don't just give up because, even with visual art, working on the same idea can wind up with completely different results, and there's room for it all.
http://twistedsifter...ketchbook-duel/
Who needs clothes when you're a goddess?
In all seriousness, if they do go the apotheosis route with the PC (I doubt it but they did in Baldur's Gate), I hope we have a choice to turn it down. I can see very few circumstances under which my Lavellan would want to step up to the level of Solas and the Evanuris.
How about immortality? Would your Lavellans take that up, if it's possible?
Personally, I'm not sure. It would depend on what the price would be I guess, and how many others would be immortal as well. I really don't know.
I give up. I'm never getting caught up...so at best I'll read the last couple of pages. It looks like I'm glad though that I missed a bunch of pages?
I'm listening to Banter again at work. So have some more team optimism.
It's Solas and Cole after the breakup scene.
Cole: "He hurts, an old pain from before, when everything sang the same. You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything, but it can't."
When he's saying this the tone and cadence of what's he's saying feels like he's repeating it as it sounds/feels in Solas's mind. It doesn't sound like a Cole thought.
It truly sounds with that in mind like Solas is struggling with himself on what it all means. He wants it to change everything...but there is too much at stake. He's got a world to save people! Not destroy...save.
Granted it might mean destroying another world in the process...but semantics.
Team Optimism!
Who needs clothes when you're a goddess?
In all seriousness, if they do go the apotheosis route with the PC (I doubt it but they did in Baldur's Gate), I hope we have a choice to turn it down. I can see very few circumstances under which my Lavellan would want to step up to the level of Solas and the Evanuris.
Given what breadcrumbs we have about what may have happened to the Evanuris in terms of veneration, letting power go to their heads, fighting, corruption, blight-weirdness, well, that wouldn't really seem like a viable option - to become what Solas gave so much to fight in the first place?
Maybe if you play a self-serving 'I'll use this mark and have pawns to get it all done' disdainful Inquisitor who claims the Herald title, but overall, it does not make any sense.
I give up. I'm never getting caught up...so at best I'll read the last couple of pages. It looks like I'm glad though that I missed a bunch of pages?
I'm listening to Banter again at work. So have some more team optimism.
It's Solas and Cole after the breakup scene.
Cole: "He hurts, an old pain from before, when everything sang the same. You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything, but it can't."
When he's saying this the tone and cadence of what's he's saying feels like he's repeating it as it sounds/feels in Solas's mind. It doesn't sound like a Cole thought.
It truly sounds with that in mind like Solas is struggling with himself on what it all means. He wants it to change everything...but there is too much at stake. He's got a world to save people! Not destroy...save.
Granted it might mean destroying another world in the process...but semantics.
I remember way back when, most people fully guessed nearly everything about Solas that was revealed in Trespasser from that line alone! We're good guessers in this thread.
Who needs clothes when you're a goddess?
In all seriousness, if they do go the apotheosis route with the PC (I doubt it but they did in Baldur's Gate), I hope we have a choice to turn it down. I can see very few circumstances under which my Lavellan would want to step up to the level of Solas and the Evanuris.
I am seconding this! And even if you think your writing sucks, the only way to improve is by writing more. And sometimes it doesn't even really matter if it sucks or not, so long as you enjoyed writing it, or you learned something from the experience
And if you're scared you're just not talented enough, please watch this video:
It's about art, but you can apply it to anything really
I've never expected to see a video by Sycra here XD
So what exactly are Solas' plans to deal with the evanuris. I doubt he plans to make himself ruler, considering it sounds like he intends to die at end of it all. Does he intend to restore Mythal to power? Can't say I like the idea of Morrigan becoming ruler of New Thedas, but then again with the veil gone Mythal may have no need of a new vessel.
Speaking of Morrigan. I wonder if Flemeth went to such trouble making sure to raise Morrigan with strong free will because she knew she might become corrupted herself one day. I can't see Morrigan standing by and letting the world (and her son) get destroyed if she knew of Solas' plans. If the IQ won't be in the next game then maybe I should have drank from the well after all, since letting Morrigan drink neutralizes any opposition she might have had. Maybe she won't be in the next game though.
My two cents. They left way to many decisions open without us seeing the consequences to completely be done with Inky.
For instance:
We just have to have some form of Inky in the next game.
So what exactly are Solas' plans to deal with the evanuris. I doubt he plans to make himself ruler, considering it sounds like he intends to die at end of it all. Does he intend to restore Mythal to power? Can't say I like the idea of Morrigan becoming ruler of New Thedas, but then again with the veil gone Mythal may have no need of a new vessel.
Speaking of Morrigan. I wonder if Flemeth went to such trouble making sure to raise Morrigan with strong free will because she knew she might become corrupted herself one day. I can't see Morrigan standing by and letting the world (and her son) get destroyed if she knew of Solas' plans. If the IQ won't be in the next game then maybe I should have drank from the well after all, since letting Morrigan drink neutralizes any opposition she might have had. Maybe she won't be in the next game though.
I'd assume he just wants the Evanuris gone. Or out of the way in some way. He doesn't seem to regret what he did to them at all, and from what I can tell of what we heard about them, I don't blame him.
As for a ruler, I don't even think he plans to set that up. I don't think he plans to even be in a position to really do that once the world is "restored".
Also, I love Morrigan, I do, but I kiiiiind of don't want her back in that big of a role (new Mythal and such, I mean). We need some new players on this field! It's also why I'm not that fond of the idea of the ever omniscient Flemythal secretly pulling the strings on absolutely everything flawlessly and she's going to save the world. Or maybe it's just that, and I know this is weird considering I love Solas and his story, I'm a bit sick of elf stuff? I hope we have more parties around to oppose/question than just elves when it comes to the big stuff in the future games. Though it's setting up to be pretty elfy!
Given what breadcrumbs we have about what may have happened to the Evanuris in terms of veneration, letting power go to their heads, fighting, corruption, blight-weirdness, well, that wouldn't really seem like a viable option - to become what Solas gave so much to fight in the first place?
Maybe if you play a self-serving 'I'll use this mark and have pawns to get it all done' disdainful Inquisitor who claims the Herald title, but overall, it does not make any sense.
How about immortality? Would your Lavellans take that up, if it's possible?
Personally, I'm not sure. It would depend on what the price would be I guess, and how many others would be immortal as well. I really don't know.
They could do like they did with the mage/Templar conflict and have it resolved fairly soon, before dealing with whatever new big bad I'm sure is probably out there... Because I think you are right, people will get sick of the plot revolving so much around elves. As much as I love them and really really want to see the Pantheon emerge on the field. People got sick of the mage vs Templar plot, though to be fair, that had been ongoing since origins.I'd assume he just wants the Evanuris gone. Or out of the way in some way. He doesn't seem to regret what he did to them at all, and from what I can tell of what we heard about them, I don't blame him.
As for a ruler, I don't even think he plans to set that up. I don't think he plans to even be in a position to really do that once the world is "restored".
Also, I love Morrigan, I do, but I kiiiiind of don't want her back in that big of a role (new Mythal and such, I mean). We need some new players on this field! It's also why I'm not that fond of the idea of the ever omniscient Flemythal secretly pulling the strings on absolutely everything flawlessly and she's going to save the world. Or maybe it's just that, and I know this is weird considering I love Solas and his story, I'm a bit sick of elf stuff? I hope we have more parties around to oppose/question than just elves when it comes to the big stuff in the future games. Though it's setting up to be pretty elfy!
I remember way back when, most people fully guessed nearly everything about Solas that was revealed in Trespasser from that line alone! We're good guessers in this thread.
I fully expect the Solas thread (and associated lore threads) will have the plot for DA4 hammered down roughly three months before the game launches. I wonder if that counts as having spoiled ourselves? We'll get to key plot points and not be at all surprised.
They could do like they did with the mage/Templar conflict and have it resolved fairly soon, before dealing with whatever new big bad I'm sure is probably out there... Because I think you are right, people will get sick of the plot revolving so much around elves. As much as I love them and really really want to see the Pantheon emerge on the field. People got sick of the mage vs Templar plot, though to be fair, that had been ongoing since origins.
You're sweet, guys. 
Maybe I'll give it a shot, after all. But first going to read that fanfic. Something which starts with a "Giant butthole in the sky" can't be bad. 
Y'know, I used to avoid fanfics... till I found this thread. 
Edit: First.
You're sweet, guys.
Y'know, I used to avoid fanfics... till I found this thread.
Eeeeexcellent. We've corrupted another to the dark side.
How about immortality? Would your Lavellans take that up, if it's possible?
If it means eternity with Solas, yes my Lavellan would probably take it. As it is, I imagine she is more focused on getting Solas redeemed atm, but I imagine the whole Solas is immortal but she isn't thing is probably going to dampen the relationship in her point of veiw.
It's not so much that I'm *sick* of elves. I've thoroughly enjoyed all the elven plot threads, especially the ones about the ancients. It's more about wanting to see new elements of the world. We got a taste of Tevinter from Dorian (and Mae in the comics), and I will be so sadface if we don't get to play the bloodier, more vicious version of the Game in Tevinter. I want to learn about the dwarves, and see if my crackpot Titan lionturtle theory is correct. I want to visit Seheron's natives, talk to a Rivaini wise woman, visit a Mortalitasi catacomb...it's why I'm coming around on the idea of an all-new protagonist, as long as my Lavellan gets to resolve the Solas story arc.
I got sick of the mage/templar thing because, to paraphrase Best Baby Bro, people wouldn't shut up about it
I'd love to see all those things too! But after my Inquisitor cleans up her own mess. Whereas, like you, I'm more interested in seeing new element of Thedas, rather than repeating ones, I am also very tired of my PCs leaving loose ends that my new PCs have to spend half a game cleaning up after.
Make a WHOLE game about dealing with Solas, give us a clean cut, and then let us see the rest of Thedas with new PCs that aren't dealing with the last PCs problems.
Really, I think the reason we keep seeing the same elements of Thedas pop up over and over again is because we keep dealing with the last PCs messes, if the first half of the game is dedicated to cleaning up after the last PC then the first half of the game will always have the same elements as the last game.
If Bioware wanted a new protagonist so badly for DA4, then the first half of Inquisition should have been dealing with Corypheus and the second half should have been dealing with Solas.
I'd love to see all those things too! But after my Inquisitor cleans up her own mess. Whereas, like you, I'm more interested in seeing new element of Thedas, rather than repeating ones, I am also very tired of my PCs leaving loose ends that my new PCs have to spend half a game cleaning up after.
That's a very good point.
It bugs me too, but I eventually just...tried to ignore it as best I could 
But you're right, it is obnoxious, and it's always weird when the level 20+ PC with epic loot leaves for a contrived reason and new person is in charge. Generally I prefer having multiple protagonists, since I get multiple viewpoints on the world, but this is one of the glaring problems.
Art post time!
Sad Solas thinks of Lavellan. Done for Inktober.
Beautiful Solavellan tarot card.
Lavellan thanks Solas for watching her back.
Solas done for Inktober.
Young Solas.
Nice Solas sketch.
Tumblr link version of that sexy Solas fanart NightSymphony linked earlier. (NSFW)
Selfie elves. (Male Lavellan, Solas, and Sera.)
Broken babies. (Anders and Solas)
More university AU. (Solas, Lavellan, and Dorian.)
That's a very good point.
It bugs me too, but I eventually just...tried to ignore it as best I could
I enjoy having multiple protagonists too. I love making new PCs (it's why I have 4 Inquisitor's and 7 Wardens) but I also enjoy actually being able to have my PC finish their story before they disappear or retire, instead of having my new PC clean up after them. 
If it means eternity with Solas, yes my Lavellan would probably take it. As it is, I imagine she is more focused on getting Solas redeemed atm, but I imagine the whole Solas is immortal but she isn't thing is probably going to dampen the relationship in her point of veiw.
Well, after pairing my Shepard with someone who would've naturally outlived her about eight times over, I, as a player, could go forward with that. As for my Lavellan, she has family and friends and a lot of things to think about, but if Solas still retains immortality, I think she could do it, depending on the outcome of many different threads at this point.
I also sent Hawke off with Anders, and what he did was on a very personal level. Yet there was still love and understanding, even while his actions still had an effect, and effectively cast a cloud over some things. I have some pretty compassionate characters, but it doesn't mean that there are no barriers.
Well, after pairing my Shepard with someone who would've naturally outlived her about eight times over, I, as a player, could go forward with that. As for my Lavellan, she has family and friends and a lot of things to think about, but if Solas still retains immortality, I think she could do it, depending on the outcome of many different threads at this point.
Good point. But Liara can have children that will equal her lifetime, so she's left with something. If Solas and Lavellan were to have children but the elves don't regain their immortality then there is no guarantee that any Solavellan children will be immortal.
There is a potential that Solas will not only have to watch his lover wither and die, but also his children, and grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc, etc, forever. 
This is what bothers me about it anyway.
Good point. But Liara can have children that will equal her lifetime, so she's left with something. If Solas and Lavellan were to have children but the elves don't regain their immortality then there is no guarantee that any Solavellan children will be immortal.
There is a potential that Solas will not only have to watch his lover wither and die, but also his children, and grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc, etc, forever.
This is what bothers me about it anyway.
I would say he will be happy and feel the pain of loss on the good side of things,he will have a legacy,not being alone plus he can always retire to Uthenera and come back to guide and share his experiences with them.Sad but in a good way
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