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[meersalz]

The song isn't quiet though. The Blight itself has a Song, perhaps a twisted or "dead" version of the living song of a Titan. Argh... I wish I understood that whole "song" thing better.  Or even WHAT exactly is a Titan. It's alive in some way since it can be killed, and it's sentient, but apart from that? Does the Song give rise to the sentience, or is it the sentience who makes the Song? Who knows...

 

Edit : A dead Titan's interior becoming a Void i could also see, but that would mean there is more than one, unless the Evanuris only ever managed to kill the one Titan from the murals. Blight as decay of a Titan's "consciousness" (for lack of a better word, since Stone doesn't quite decay) could also definitely work. You kill a Titan (they might be like the Evanuris themselves in that killing one completely isn't really possible), you get the Blight spreading from the twisting Song. That actually makes some sense.

 

 

I think the Titan's a bit like a living volcano.  It can be actively reshaping the Stone, or just asleep, or hibernating, or straight-up dead.  As for the song, it comes from the lyrium according to Justice all the way back in Awakening.  Lyrium is the Titan's life-blood, so I would guess that song makes the sentience since the lyrium continues to "sing" even after it's been mined from the Titan.

 

Edit: Ah, double-ninja'd by both of you about the lyrium sentience!

 

Putting this together: the living lyrium in a Titan sings a healthy song and the blighted lyrium in a 'zombie'-like Titan sings a sick song. Is only the lyrium alife and making up a Titan? If there is enough lyrium in one space it forms a consiousnes and starts moving unanimated things like stone thus forming a Titan? Again reminds me of that DLC guardian, who was magically?! forming from stone?

 

Also the mages use lyrium to reinforce their magical power. How does that work, when Titans have no magic or connection to the fade?

[Moondreamer01]

Putting this together: the living lyrium in a Titan sings a healthy song and the blighted lyrium in a 'zombie'-like Titan sings a sick song. Is only the lyrium alife and making up a Titan? If there is enough lyrium in one space it forms a consiousnes and starts moving unanimated things like stone thus forming a Titan? Again reminds me of that DLC guardian, who was magically?! forming from stone?

 

Also the mages use lyrium to reinforce their magical power. How does that work, when Titans have no magic or connection to the fade?

The titans definitely have magic of some kind, even if it's not fade magic. Valta showed sign of it at the end of Descent. What I still can't understand is the link between lyrium as titan-blood and fade magic, as titans and the Fade seem mutually exclusive.

[drosophila]

Quick, someone cast a huge barrier over Edmonton?
 

 

I would, but I don't have that much power. Maybe if Dirthamen shows up and lets me absorb him. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

If the Evanuris fought Titans, the lyrium predates the Veil. Could Thedas itself be alive? Teh Fade could be its dreaming mind, lyrium its physical manifestation. And as you say, one of the properties of lyrium, when in sufficient quantity, could be to develop a sentience.
 
But then, you have the Dragons... the blood of the world... and I'm not even sure where I'm going with this.

Putting this together: the living lyrium in a Titan sings a healthy song and the blighted lyrium in a 'zombie'-like Titan sings a sick song. Is only the lyrium alife and making up a Titan? If there is enough lyrium in one space it forms a consiousnes and starts moving unanimated things like stone thus forming a Titan? Again reminds me of that DLC guardian, who was magically?! forming from stone?
 
Also the mages use lyrium to reinforce their magical power. How does that work, when Titans have no magic or connection to the fade?

 
Oh yeah.  Oops.  OK, how to work this out?  We think of the Titans as part of the physical world, but there was no dichotomy between the physical world and the Fade before Solas put up the Veil. Which means that back in the day, the Titans did have a connection to the Fade because everything was part of the Fade.  They weren't mutually exclusive a long time ago.
 
Here's my crackpot-est theory yet: Bianca says lyrium is alive, so let's stretch that and say that lyrium is actually sentient.  Distributed, sentient magic that, like the early spirits who became elves, willed itself into a more permanent state.  So in a sense, the stone of Thedas is alive via lyrium.  When it became a physical thing, it started to follow physical properties.  Crystallizing into veins.  Pooling in the Deep Roads, and eventually, "singing" the Titans into existence. 
 
(also I have no idea how to work the Dragons into this)

[Lunapur]

Honestly, the worst part now will be the frikking WAITING. For years. And at this point I think I'm more worried about... dunno... WWIII breaking out or EA/Bioware bankrupting or not getting enough funds, or getting cancelled for some inexplicable reason - because as long as things go well and the world be stable, I'm not really that worried about DA4 from writing or development perspective

Yea :(So i am listening to Titanic songs omg feels and since i did not stop to make decent screenshots i recorded and i went over it and i took a moment to remember all the wonderful characters and our inquisitor and what she/he means for us..and of course Solas but i did not want to watch that part cuz pain but i really liked how i see them all here.Curses.. i want them to be back they meant so much to all of us "cries"

[Moondreamer01]

 
Oh yeah.  Oops.  OK, how to work this out?  We think of the Titans as part of the physical world, but there was no dichotomy between the physical world and the Fade before Solas put up the Veil. Which means that back in the day, the Titans did have a connection to the Fade because everything was part of the Fade.  They weren't mutually exclusive a long time ago.
 
Here's my crackpot-est theory yet: Bianca says lyrium is alive, so let's stretch that and say that lyrium is actually sentient.  Distributed, sentient magic that, like the early spirits who became elves, willed itself into a more permanent state.  So in a sense, the stone of Thedas is alive via lyrium.  When it became a physical thing, it started to follow physical properties.  Crystallizing into veins.  Pooling in the Deep Roads, and eventually, "singing" the Titans into existence. 
 
(also I have no idea how to work the Dragons into this)

Good point. We might be making the wrong assumption when thinking the Titan aren't linked with the Fade. Still, the dwarves aren't and they're the only race with that particularity. I can't figure out why it would be the case, apart from linking it, again, with the link they used to share with their Titans. And if the Evanuris fought and killed the "pillars of the earth and their workers" way before the veil went up, I'd be really curious to know how those first "free" dwarves survived a world where the fade and the physical world were one. And why the veil itself cut them out from the Fade completely, while it only made it more difficult to other races.

[meersalz]

Quick, someone cast a huge barrier over Edmonton?
 

 

Where is Solas when you need him!?

[Cee]

Am I the only one who prefers the formal uniform? I wish we could choose different designs and colors for those, but I like the authority it gives my Lavellan, and how it differentiates her a bit from the nobles and their drama. 

 

No, I prefer it. It's a uniform representing the organization. It's appropriate for the situation. It's a gender neutral option. I loved the red too.  I might mod a dress in for another character at some point, depending how I play, but for Nirwen, especially, a fancy dress wouldn't be her.

[figment_]

Maybe the Titans are "comatose" or "locked-in". The physical separated from the spirit or conscious mind, thought, or action by the Veil or whatever was done to them pre-veil. It seems they were sentient and connected to the fade at one time...

 

There was supposed to be a quote or two here...

[CapricornSun]

Art break. 

 

Trespasser: How Lavellan would handle seeing Solas again.

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Source: http://fuddlesmuck.t...le-seeing-solas

 

 

You Are Mine by nanananananablr. (NSFW-sh) Also, not sure what exactly happened here... (I'm guessing he's dead?) 

 

Adorable smiling Solas with a bit of paint on his face.

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Source: http://riavasthedas....tely-pls-accept

 

 

University AU: Professor Solas on the opinion of raising the dead. (Starring Abelas.)

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Source: http://professorsola...is-still-active

 

 

Awesome artwork of the DAI crew based on WW2 photos.

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Source: http://dragonagesobb...e-only-war-so-i

 

 

Lavellan does what she wants! (Starring Cole, Vivienne, Solas, and Cassandra)

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Source: http://dearasteria.t...-what-she-wants

 

[Illyria]

Am I the only one who prefers the formal uniform? I wish we could choose different designs and colors for those, but I like the authority it gives my Lavellan, and how it differentiates her a bit from the nobles and their drama. 

 

I don't mind formal wear as a concept but the colour and design of the vanilla one is just so horrible.  My Lavellan has a black and gold Dalish one for the squad with her in a black and gold Dalish dress.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Good point. We might be making the wrong assumption when thinking the Titan aren't link with the Fade. Still, the dwarves aren't and they're the only race with that particularity. I can't figure out why it would be the case, apart from linking it, again, with the link they used to share with their Titans. And if the Evanuris fought and killed the "pilalrs of the earth and their workers" way before the veil went up, I'd be really curious to know how those first "free" dwarves survived a world where the fade and the physical world were one. And why the veil itself cut them out from the Fade completely, while it only made it more difficult to other races.

 

Valta's weird glowy blue thing comes from her connection with the Titan.  So maybe way back when, the Titans were the dwarves' link to magic.  Lyrium connected the Titans to the Fade, and all of the dwarves were connected to the Titan.  The dwarves were linked to the Fade, but they had one additional level of separation.  So with the Veil down, the other races lost their ability to consciously link to the Fade, unless they were mages.  But the dwarves also lost their link as a race when the Titans fell, which is why they can't dream and have no mages.

 

Cole says something about the "old song" still echoing inside the dwarves.  Maybe that's the Stone sense?  They could in theory restore their connection with magic, but they need the stone sense and a Titan to do it.

 

Maybe the Titans are "comatose" or "locked-in". The physical separated from the spirit or conscious mind, thought, or action by the Veil or whatever was done to them pre-veil. It seems they were sentient and connected to the fade at one time...

 

There was supposed to be a quote or two here...

 

The Titan that Valta encountered was definitely awake and kicking, and they're probably still linked to the Fade via lyrium.  Remember, lyrium is weird because it exists both in the waking world, and in the Fade.  There are lyrium veins all over the place in the Fade, and it's theorized that lyrium bridges the two worlds in WoT.  

[MoonDrummer]

Am I the only one who prefers the formal uniform? I wish we could choose different designs and colors for those, but I like the authority it gives my Lavellan, and how it differentiates her a bit from the nobles and their drama. 

I didn't like it, not opposed to having a miltiary uniform but it was rather plain looking. The inq is the leader so I would have it to have been decked out in medals and sashes and stuff like that, the uniform doesn't differentiate me from the other members of the inquistion so it doesn't really show any authority for me. A bearskin hat would have been lovely.

[Moondreamer01]

Valta's weird glowy blue thing comes from her connection with the Titan.  So maybe way back when, the Titans were the dwarves' link to magic.  Lyrium connected the Titans to the Fade, and all of the dwarves were connected to the Titan.  The dwarves were linked to the Fade, but they had one additional level of separation.  So with the Veil down, the other races lost their ability to consciously link to the Fade, unless they were mages.  But the dwarves also lost their link as a race when the Titans fell, which is why they can't dream and have no mages.

 

Cole says something about the "old song" still echoing inside the dwarves.  Maybe that's the Stone sense?  They could in theory restore their connection with magic, but they need the stone sense and a Titan to do it.

 

 

The Titan that Valta encountered was definitely awake and kicking, and they're probably still linked to the Fade via lyrium.  Remember, lyrium is weird because it exists both in the waking world, and in the Fade.  There are lyrium veins all over the place in the Fade, and it's theorized that lyrium bridges the two worlds in WoT.  

Quite interesting. That would also mean that using lyrium to strenghten your magic would be, in a way, going through a titan (or at least using the titan's link to the Fade) to better reach the Fade, the same way the dwarves used to do!

[figment_]

Valta's weird glowy blue thing comes from her connection with the Titan.  So maybe way back when, the Titans were the dwarves' link to magic.  Lyrium connected the Titans to the Fade, and all of the dwarves were connected to the Titan.  The dwarves were linked to the Fade, but they had one additional level of separation.  So with the Veil down, the other races lost their ability to consciously link to the Fade, unless they were mages.  But the dwarves also lost their link as a race when the Titans fell, which is why they can't dream and have no mages.

 

Cole says something about the "old song" still echoing inside the dwarves.  Maybe that's the Stone sense?  They could in theory restore their connection with magic, but they need the stone sense and a Titan to do it.

 

 

The Titan that Valta encountered was definitely awake and kicking, and they're probably still linked to the Fade via lyrium.  Remember, lyrium is weird because it exists both in the waking world, and in the Fade.  There are lyrium veins all over the place in the Fade, and it's theorized that lyrium bridges the two worlds in WoT.  

As far as Valta's Titan goes, I don't think it was fully "awake"...maybe in some sort of "suspended" or semi-conscious state more like being "locked-in" than comatose...

 

The Dwarven connection makes me think of symbiosis or some kind of symbiotic state or relationship between the Dwarves and the Titans pre-Veil. It's frustrating knowing as little as we do about the Titans!

[midnight tea]

That's why we should fight to keep the world intact from war, economic breakdown, climate change, superviruses, and whatever else threatens the next installment of DA.

 

Yes, there's no other reason to fight for world peace, just DA4 and whatever comes next - you hear that Bioware??? You're responsible for world peace!!

...Also we shouldn't forget about taking care of ourselves

 

random person: "Oh, you're always so careful and take good care for your health! Good for you - you'll live a long and happy life!"

me: "Nah, I just do that to make sure that I play more DA once it's out!"

[drosophila]

No, I prefer it. It's a uniform representing the organization. It's appropriate for the situation. It's a gender neutral option. I loved the red too.  I might mod a dress in for another character at some point, depending how I play, but for Nirwen, especially, a fancy dress wouldn't be her.

 

I don't mind formal wear as a concept but the colour and design of the vanilla one is just so horrible.  My Lavellan has a black and gold Dalish one for the squad with her in a black and gold Dalish dress.

 

I didn't like it, not opposed to having a miltiary uniform but it was rather plain looking. The inq is the leader so I would have it to have been decked out in medals and sashes and stuff like that, the uniform doesn't differentiate me from the other members of the inquistion so it doesn't really show any authority for me. A bearskin hat would have been lovely.

 

Agree about the crappy design/color, and I appreciated the gender neutrality. My ideal HC is jackets and pants made of black leather and velvet with some sparse golden accents that add flare, but in a tasteful way. Also small insignia to indicate rank, but lots of medals are not my thing. 

[Tanyara]

I don't know if someone already mentioned this regarding one particular quest in Trepasser (spoilers)

 

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But as soon as that elven servant showed up with a welsh accent(Dalish) and *no* vallaslin, I was mighty suspicious! Did someone else also notice this?

 

[drosophila]

...Also we shouldn't forget about taking care of ourselves

 

random person: "Oh, you're always so careful and take good care for your health! Good for you - you'll live a long and happy life!"

me: "Nah, I just do that to make sure that I play more DA once it's out!"

 

Next time I feel like skipping exercise, I'll remind myself I'm doing it for Dragon Age

 

Also I hope my research will help prevent us from going senile by the time the series is done. 

[AutumnOracle]

Normally on team optimism and listening to banter.  I got more team optimism happening...and then I crashed.  Someone help! I was good until the heroic death.  Cause I basically see Varric as parroting the plot.

 

 

Cassandra: Varric, how could you let the Knight-Captain be framed for murder?

Varric: Well I did spent three entire chapters setting it up.

Cassandra: But she didn't deserve it! You'd already put her through more than enough!

Varric: Look seeker, if you love a character, you give them pain, ruin their lives, make them suffer. Maybe even throw in a heroic death!

Cassandra: That makes no sense!

Varric: But you care enough to argue. If she has a nice afternoon and took a nap you'd stop reading.

[Illyria]

Agree about the crappy design/color, and I appreciated the gender neutrality. My ideal HC is jackets and pants made of black leather and velvet with some sparse golden accents that add flare, but in a tasteful way. Also small insignia to indicate rank, but lots of medals are not my thing. 

 

The one I use is very nice Dalish style that takes elements of the outfits worn by elves.  It's by skaramoosh/skara888 but is hidden at the moment.  I'm hoping it's just because of the finery crash in Trespasser and not because the mod has been pulled completely.

[figment_]

 

Normally on team optimism and listening to banter.  I got more team optimism happening...and then I crashed.  Someone help! I was good until the heroic death.  Cause I basically see Varric as parroting the plot.

 

 

Cassandra: Varric, how could you let the Knight-Captain be framed for murder?

Varric: Well I did spent three entire chapters setting it up.

Cassandra: But she didn't deserve it! You'd already put her through more than enough!

Varric: Look seeker, if you love a character, you give them pain, ruin their lives, make them suffer. Maybe even throw in a heroic death!

Cassandra: That makes no sense!

Varric: But you care enough to argue. If she has a nice afternoon and took a nap you'd stop reading.

 

The key word is "maybe"...and it's Varric talking here!

 

Go Team Optimism!!!

[Illyria]

The one I use is very nice Dalish style that takes elements of the outfits worn by elves.  It's by skaramoosh/skara888 but is hidden at the moment.  I'm hoping it's just because of the finery crash in Trespasser and not because the mod has been pulled completely.

 

Actually, all their mods are gone completely both from the nexus (except for a DAO one) and tumblr.  And their tumblr is gone.  Anyone know what happened to them?

[Moondreamer01]

 

Normally on team optimism and listening to banter.  I got more team optimism happening...and then I crashed.  Someone help! I was good until the heroic death.  Cause I basically see Varric as parroting the plot.

 

 

Cassandra: Varric, how could you let the Knight-Captain be framed for murder?

Varric: Well I did spent three entire chapters setting it up.

Cassandra: But she didn't deserve it! You'd already put her through more than enough!

Varric: Look seeker, if you love a character, you give them pain, ruin their lives, make them suffer. Maybe even throw in a heroic death!

Cassandra: That makes no sense!

Varric: But you care enough to argue. If she has a nice afternoon and took a nap you'd stop reading.

 

He's not wrong though. Some of the best stories I've read have all of this. The pain is there, because of the moments of happinesss are in such stark contrast to it. My very best sort of endings, personnaly -- the ones that really get me crying like a baby while reading -- are those where everything seems lost, where a character is ready and willing to face death (and sometimes does die depending of context) and then you realize that it's not the end of it. The miracle happens and all the pain the character went through isn't for nothing and you get your happy ending after all.

 

Example : See The Dread Wolf's Heart's ending for a good example of what I'm talking about, if you've read it.

[Tess]

I don't mind formal wear as a concept but the colour and design of the vanilla one is just so horrible.  My Lavellan has a black and gold Dalish one for the squad with her in a black and gold Dalish dress.

I don't mind it at all. Military organization and all that. Dress simply doesn't cut it for fighting and climbing off limits - for me. One of the things I relish in DA is the fact that female armour is sensible.

Y'know:

 

Anyhow.

 

 

wow that's cool   My lavellan was just called Ellana. Idk I just wanted to keep the original name as I did in ME. Though in Mass Effect the female's name is Jane Shepard and since my real name is close to Jane and all foreigners calls me Jane so.. XD yeah..


But my Ellanas eyes are ice blue. :3 And white hair. She was inspired by Halla mother Gilanain.

btw do you have a picture of Fen'Inan? :3 I would love to see her

 

Sifting through playthrough screenshots... lots of Solas... hmmm.... some Cass and Sera.... hmmmmhmhm.... I seem to have only very bad screens of her. Nonetheless, here, 3 selfies.

I maintain an "elvhen" profile on her (that nose.), and took the Vallaslin off as the opposition to slavery and not freewillness. After drinking from the Well. Sacrifice for her People, of course.

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