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[Big Blackwall]

Thanks to another post on here, I realized Silverite was the key for my Cole being safe lol

 

So it's not just me? I never realized how much I needed him until he was gone. Especially in JOH when I replaced him with Dorian. Solas seems to have a mind of his own and knows what to do without altering behavior. My Inquisitor is always safe. If anyone touches her he freezes them, protects her or uses Stonefist to knock them away. He also using Fade Step to reach her when she's overwhelmed. My Trevelyan and him were definitely BFF's.

 

Cole is amazingly useful for his burst damage combo, especially if you have a warrior who gains guard on hit. I think silverite does that for you and gives 5 guard per hit. with a strong enough Blackwall type champion, Cole can build full glass cannon, do his damage, be picked up and repeat once his cooldowns are back up.

[drosophila]

DA:O and DAII start in 9:30 and DA:I starts in 9:41 and Trespasser starts in 9:44. DA:I taking 3 years was a misunderstanding of a comment DGaider made when asked, instead of ingame time passing it referred to real-world game development time, he clarified as such. DA:I takes about a year since Trespasser is 2 years after and is 9:44.

BUT feel free to check that/inform me I'm incorrect because I have a numerical learning difficulty L O L so my word is about as useful as a fish on a bicycle.

*Only* a year? It definitely seemed longer than that to me. Just like Solas having been awake for only a year before that, I feel like they're cramming too many events in too little time. And it has some implications about the Solas romance -they must've been together for only several months at best. How did things get so serious?

[MoonDrummer]

Solas' theme song.

[Mlady]

Cole is amazingly useful for his burst damage combo, especially if you have a warrior who gains guard on hit. I think silverite does that for you and gives 5 guard per hit. with a strong enough Blackwall type champion, Cole can build full glass cannon, do his damage, be picked up and repeat once his cooldowns are back up.

 

 

I tend to use him and Blackwall with Solas. I've yet to fall in battle with any of them, and Cole tends to get the last kill if Blackwall is down.

 

Honestly, if that happens, I think Solas will probably want to kill himself before giving up on trying again. I think the best way is to find some kind of alternative or compromise.

 

It would have to be something beyond seeing a future destroyed by a mistake since it didn't cause him to sway. Something has to reach him. Something that will change everything.

[Solas]

Hell, less than a year. It seemed longer than that to me too when I played and I much preferred the 3 years passing in basegame idea and was surprised when Gaider clarified otherwise. But that's the timeline. It's not the first time they've crammed things in to a short scale, the Anders from Awakening->DA2 appearance timeline is also pretty tight for example.

 

Fifth Blight began in 9:30. That's when Duncan recruited the HoF and the Hawkes flew from Lothering.

 

DA:I begins in 9:41, and by 9:42 Corypheus was defeated (see fountain in Trespasser). 2 years pass and Trespasser began. 9:44

[drosophila]

Honestly, if that happens, I think Solas will probably want to kill himself before giving up on trying again. I think the best way is to find some kind of alternative or compromise.

He might, but there might be way to convince him it's still worth living for the sake of his love or his friends. If we've managed to convince him Thedosians are real people, he might see some value in helping them, even if saving his folk has failed. He clearly showed some care and desire to help when we took him around in main game.

Also even if he's left with nothing, his guilt will still be there, it might even intensify. And I think that's what's keeping him alive, he always wants to be able to fix at least something.

However we do it, it will be a very very painful process for him, redemption for deeds like his doesn't happen easy. He'll need friends and/or his beloved to get him through it.

[Rascoth]

Hell, less than a year. It seemed longer than that to me too when I played and I much preferred the 3 years passing in basegame idea and was surprised when Gaider clarified otherwise. But that's the timeline. It's not the first time they've crammed things in to a short scale, the Anders from Awakening->DA2 appearance timeline is also pretty tight for example.

Yeah, the whole 'one year' thing... It's definitely too short, at least in my opinion.

Travelling alone could take months, if comments from previous games or other media are any indicator of distance/time relation in DAI.

 

As for Anders from Awakening -> DA2... I wouldn't call it tight, more like almost impossible. I remember when I tried to explain it to a friend. I confused her so much 

[Illyria]

Hell, less than a year. It seemed longer than that to me too when I played and I much preferred the 3 years passing in basegame idea and was surprised when Gaider clarified otherwise. But that's the timeline. It's not the first time they've crammed things in to a short scale, the Anders from Awakening->DA2 appearance timeline is also pretty tight for example.

 

Fifth Blight began in 9:30. That's when Duncan recruited the HoF and the Hawkes flew from Lothering.

 

DA:I begins in 9:41, and by 9:42 Corypheus was defeated (see fountain in Trespasser). 2 years pass and Trespasser began. 9:44

 

The Anders thing is actually impossible and it makes my head hurt.  There's simply not enough time for the Blight to have been stopped, Oghren to have knocked up Felesi, Anders recuited to the Wardens, the events of Awakening and Anders going to Kirkwall and establishing himself as a healer.  It's actaully one of the reasons I dislike him.

 

Anders: Woe is me.  Being a warden is suffering!

Surana: WTF, dude.  You were with us for two minutes and ran away when you got a papercut.

[Solas]

yeah tight is an understatement. I didn't write the timeline, just relating what it's stated to be 

 

Puts the DA:O and DA:I romances in perspective, really - like Alistair dumping nonCousland to be King, like, okay yeah you were all in lub and stuff but you'd known him less than a year and been together realistically speaking in any meaningful serious way for all of like, a few months, so like... Same with Solas. The only romances with realistic build-up compared to the real world (for the average relationship anyway [of course there are outliers I know], and for most healthy ones) are the ones in DA2 due to the timescale.

[midnight tea]

*Only* a year? It definitely seemed longer than that to me. Just like Solas having been awake for only a year before that, I feel like they're cramming too many events in too little time. And it has some implications about the Solas romance -they must've been together for only several months at best. How did things get so serious?

 

The more intense the circumstances, the more intense the seriousness

 

Just like Inquistor is able to do more than many people have done in a lifetime in a span of a year is similar to many intense ways the relationship (any type of relationship, really) might have been tested by the strain of events themselves. Likely they've managed to see the best and the worst of each other - something many RL couples or friends sometimes have no opportunity or willingness to test themselves, in much more favorable circumstances.

 

I knew or heard of quite a few couples that have been together for years, only to have a falling out shortly after they began living together or they've encountered some unexpected RL problems.

[Illyria]

yeah tight is an understatement. I didn't write the timeline, just relating what it's stated to be 

 

Puts the DA:O and DA:I romances in perspective, really - like Alistair dumping nonCousland to be King, like, okay yeah you were all in lub and stuff but you'd known him less than a year and been together realistically speaking in any meaningful serious way for all of like, a few months. Same with Solas. The only romances with realistic build-up compared to the real world (for the average relationship anyway, and for most healthy ones) are the ones in DA2 due to the timescale.

 

Illyria Greatly Disaproves about timelines.

 

I'm one of those people who love figuring timelines out and when I'm hit with a problem like this then it makes my head hurt.

[jthibeault]

*Only* a year? It definitely seemed longer than that to me. Just like Solas having been awake for only a year before that, I feel like they're cramming too many events in too little time. And it has some implications about the Solas romance -they must've been together for only several months at best. How did things get so serious?

In the real world people can bond extremely quickly in the face of traumatic events. That's always what I figured was going on with everyone's close friendships.

[Eivuwan]

I don't think it's possible to redeem Solas without great sacrifices. Otherwise, it would be too perfect and Bioware doesn't like perfect. Bioware loves the bitter or bitter-sweet.

[Solas]

Illyria Greatly Disaproves about timelines.

 

I'm one of those people who love figuring timelines out and when I'm hit with a problem like this then it makes my head hurt.

I just don't think about it and accept it, gives me headache otherwise. You say it's been 14 years BW? Ok 14 it is.

[dawnstone]

I don't think it's possible to redeem Solas without great sacrifices. Otherwise, it would be too perfect and Bioware doesn't like perfect. Bioware loves the bitter or bitter-sweet.

Yeah, to save him, I fully expect my Inquisitor to have to pay some price for his life that Solas will not agree with at all, or it will kill her outright. Whatever it is, if he can be killed in-game, it will essentially have to render Solas powerless or permanently sidelined, to save him, because they won't want to put him in the next game (if his plot is resolved in DA4).

[drosophila]

In the real world people can bond extremely quickly in the face of traumatic events. That's always what I figured was going on with everyone's close friendships.

Quoting both you and midnight tea - I'm on my phone and can't multi quote.

I guess... I've never experienced the kind of trauma that would help me bond with people. My admittedly pessimistic and sceptical opinion is that such friendships have immense value, but not the solid foundation of having known someone for a long time and being compatible with them. Once the threat that brings them together passes and everyone's back to the usual, I think they are likely to dissolve.

[Moirin]

I might be miscounting because of my dyscalculia so please feel free to ignore me, but DA:I starts 9:41 and Trespasser is 9:44 so 3 years, which is less than 18->24, and DA:O starts 9:30 so to 9:44 = 14 years, which is less than 17->34? If it's headcanon about timescales please disregard me!!

 

Anyway omg that picture is so cute 

 

I have a fever atm so my brain isn't doing match so well, so lemme see...

 

I was thinking DA:I started in 9:40, I don't think we got an official year it happens other then "We've been missing a full year in 9:42" which I took to mean a full year and then some. So, if you want specifics, as of 9:40 My Lavellan is 18 and as of 9:44 she is 24.

 

You are right about my Warden though, 34 is my Hawke's age as of 9:40, I had this written down and was using this as a refeerance when I typed the first post and got it mixed up. So my Warden is 31 as of Trespasser.

 

Also, thank you.

[Solas]

hugs u and gives you some medicine maybe come back to the math when u feel better x)  get well soon

[Rascoth]

Illyria Greatly Disaproves about timelines.

 

I'm one of those people who love figuring timelines out and when I'm hit with a problem like this then it makes my head hurt.

*joins* I love figuring timelines as well. Be it game, TV show, book or any other media. 

When I first started DA2 and met Anders my first reaction was  , then:

[GoldenGail3]

I have a fever atm so my brain isn't doing match so well, so lemme see...
 
I was thinking DA:I started in 9:40, I don't think we got an official year it happens other then "We've been missing a full year in 9:42" which I took to mean a full year and then some. So, if you want specifics, as of 9:40 My Lavellan is 18 and as of 9:44 she is 24.
 
You are right about my Warden though, 34 is my Hawke's age as of 9:40, I had this written down and was using this as a refeerance when I typed the first post and got it mixed up. So my Warden is 31 as of Trespasser.
 
Also, thank you.

Ooh, my Canon Cousland was about 21 during the Blight, so she's 35 years old right now (during Trepasser, she's 35). And all Hawke's are of the same age. So it doesn't matter. And my Lavellen was about 20 years old... So she's 25 years old right now. My Canon Cullen romance was about 26 years old, so she's 31 years old as of now.

[midnight tea]

Yeah, to save him, I fully expect my Inquisitor to have to pay some price for his life that Solas will not agree with at all, or it will kill her outright. Whatever it is, if he can be killed in-game, it will essentially have to render Solas powerless or permanently sidelined, to save him, because they won't want to put him in the next game (if his plot is resolved in DA4).

 

I think it depends what they're planning to do with him (or Inkys or else) - I assume however, that whatever comes after Solas may play out differently depending whether we redeemed or killed him. It may be that since he's creator of the Veil, he will be crucial in many future events in one way or another.

[Solas]

9:41->9:44 (DA:I start->Trespasser) = 3 years

[rowrow]

He might, but there might be way to convince him it's still worth living for the sake of his love or his friends. If we've managed to convince him Thedosians are real people, he might see some value in helping them, even if saving his folk has failed. He clearly showed some care and desire to help when we took him around in main game.

Also even if he's left with nothing, his guilt will still be there, it might even intensify. And I think that's what's keeping him alive, he always wants to be able to fix at least something.

However we do it, it will be a very very painful process for him, redemption for deeds like his doesn't happen easy. He'll need friends and/or his beloved to get him through it.

 

I don't think anything short of redirecting his purpose along a course of action that he genuinely sees as worthy of his full dedication, will do it. Solas seems to be the sort who needs a purpose, and it can't be something as simple as the pursuit of knowledge, either. As much as he might seem to prefer the company of books and spirits, he's not the sort who seems able to ignore the suffering of beings. And yet he also seems to be the sort to trust his head first and regret greatly with his heart, later  - making him different from, say Cassandra, who is similarly devoted to her mission, but seems more willing to make the leap of ''what feels right" and be able to change course when she's at a loss. Solas seems way, way, more stubborn than even Cassandra. Both his head and his heart will need convincing, and I'm guessing he will need lots and lots of direct, full-sensory evidence that his way is wrong, backed up by a completely convincing and irrefutable argument that both the world AND his own conscience would be better served by not destroying the world. Which is the thing that worries me. It may take a lot of destruction before he's convinced. And that puts me in fear of the 'kill yourself to right your mistakes" ending, or similar.

 

Or ... who knows, maybe we just need to recruit Thedas' best debater. With Solas, the final boss fight could be a three-hour conversation tree

[GoldenGail3]

*joins* I love figuring timelines as well. Be it game, TV show, book or any other media. 
When I first started DA2 and met Anders my first reaction was  , then:

OMG, THAT IS HOW I FELT. But I didn't expect him to both use me and blow up a chantry. I have a bit of a grudge against Anders so there's that.

[RynJ]

To add to the character age discussion from back a few pages, I've actually never had a PC that was my age or younger. They were always older! I was about 17 when DAO came out so even my 19 year old Warden was still older. My Lavellan is a good few years older than me. Maybe my DA4 protag will finally be younger than me, but that'd be a first!

 

I don't know, playing characters much different than me doesn't bother me. I try more to make up a set story/personality for them and roleplay them through the game with that personality as best I can. I don't self insert all that much, other than my preference in some of the major choices. But so far, I've never had to go against a PC's set personality to do that, even though my Hawke was kind of a douche! Maybe I'll make a bad boy character one day, but those I find I have a hard time getting all that into.

 

Has anyone ever thought about making their canon playthrough an "evil" one?