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This makes me wonder: it's a total mystery to me what death means to Solas, apart from the failure to save his people. What is death to an immortal like him? He never really addresses that. If he gives up on his mission or something prevents him from completing it, what would it mean to die rather than live?

On the one hand, there's his fear of dying alone. On the other hand, he was about to do just that in future Redcliffe and seemed pretty resigned to it. So I don't know if death would represent relief or horror to him, and I have the feeling that it might be both at the same time.

 

I think he means more a metaphorical death, or one that means more than just loss of his physical body. "Dying alone" may also mean a lot of things - and from the looks of it, the loss of self is probably the most terrifying thing for him. So, if he truly turns into Dread Wolf, a side of him that is terrible and ruthless and maybe too twisted by pain and duty to resemble who he was, then "Solas" will indeed die... As in, no one will remember who he was. Solas will be dead to the world, forgotten by everyone, or remembered only as a terrible monster. 


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We can achieve so much through the power of friendship.

 

We are going to find Solas, give him a huge comuppance and all go out for frilly cakes!


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We are going to find Solas, give him a huge comuppance and all go out for frilly cakes!


This is our ultimate goal, yes.
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This is our ultimate goal, yes.



Your wrong! Our ultimate goal is find Solas, slap him upside the head. And bring Solavallen back together.
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I agree. I'd rather see someone actually work on understanding themselves and making amends rather than just dying and being done with it. An evil villain who dies saving children from being run over by a bus can be said to have redeemed himself, sure, but one act of mercy does not show redemption. What Thom did at the end of Trespasser in my playthrough shows a man who learned, moved on, and lived his life to help others from that point. Dying for that one soldier he'd have saved in Orlais would have been great for the soldier, but meaningless for any true redemption on his part.

Well said!

Falons before foes.

 

We can achieve so much through the power of friendship.

 

And making people join the Dark side. We have cookies!

Lol. What did I walk in on?



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Lol. What did I walk in on?

 

The birth of secret society to rival that of The Illuminati? :D



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Your wrong! Our ultimate goal is find Solas, slap him upside the head. And bring Solavallen back together.


I suppose it's only natural there would be disagreement about our ultimate goal eventually. Very well, there can be an option to slap him.

Have this peace offering! *offers a cookie*

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I suppose it's only natural there would be disagreement about our ultimate goal eventually. Very well, there can be an option to slap him.
Have this peace offering! *offers a cookie*


Lol. Okay.
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And making people join the Dark side. We have cookies!

Lies!!!

 

The_Power_of_the_Dark_Side_by_Darth_Tanu

 

:D

 

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<_<


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Lies!!!
 
The_Power_of_the_Dark_Side_by_Darth_Tanu
 
:D
 
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<_<


Maybe it's becuase you haven't joined the Darkside yet. So you don't know!

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Lol. Okay.

 

:)



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The birth of secret society to rival that of The Illuminati? :D

The Solasnati? The FreeSolas? The Knights not Templar?

I suppose it's only natural there would be disagreement about our ultimate goal eventually. Very well, there can be an option to slap him.

Have this peace offering! *offers a cookie*

I would actually like to stonefist him in the face... maybe we can have specials depending on our powers?

...

Then he can have a hug!


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#131238
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The Solasnati? The FreeSolas? The Knights not Templar?!

 

The Solavellanati? The Friends Of Dread Wolf? The Fen'Harelians? FAN'Harelians?



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The Solasnati? The FreeSolas? The Knights not Templar?

I would actually like to stonefist him in the face... maybe we can have specials depending on our powers?

...

Then he can have a hug!

 

Sigh... So much violence. Have a cookie!



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Maybe it's becuase you haven't joined the Darkside yet. So you don't know!

Or maybe I like to flirt with the dark side and learned some of their recruitment strategies :ph34r:

 

Here, have a cookie :)



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So bittersweet...


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The birth of secret society to rival that of The Illuminati? :D


Oh can I please join yous :)
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The Solavellanati? The Friends Of Dread Wolf? The Fen'Harelians? FAN'Harelians?

Oooh, you got me! My vote goes to the first!

 

Sigh... So much violence. Have a cookie!

:rolleyes:

Spoiler


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#131244
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I think he means more a metaphorical death, or one that means more than just loss of his physical body. "Dying alone" may also mean a lot of things - and from the looks of it, the loss of self is probably the most terrifying thing for him. So, if he truly turns into Dread Wolf, a side of him that is terrible and ruthless and maybe too twisted by pain and duty to resemble who he was, then "Solas" will indeed die... As in, no one will remember who he was. Solas will be dead to the world, forgotten by everyone, or remembered only as a terrible monster. 

I've always interpreted his fear of dying alone as more of a metaphorical thing, too. I mean, yeah, he probably wants people as he remembered them to return to the world so that he doesn't feel so apart from it, and he probably wants someone to, like, physically hold him as he dies, because who wants to go out with no one to comfort you, no one to even know you're gone? But I think the biggest part of it is that he's afraid no one will remember Solas. They'll all remember Fen'Harel - they already do. They'll remember him as a rebel, a demon, a great destroyer - and given his current course, those things aren't without merit - but Solas isn't Fen'Harel. Solas is the man who nerds out in the Fade and snorts when he laughs and sneers ten different ways at tea. And he's terrified that Fen'Harel will iive - but no one will remember Solas. No one will remember him.

 

It makes me think on how he viewed his relationship with Lavellan. Everyone sees him as this great figure - even his agents, and maybe even the spirits, regard him as more than just a man. But for Lavellan, he was just a man. Just some random apostate who stumbled out of the woods. And maybe he hopes that she still remembers and loves and cherishes that man, even if she doesn't see him in Fen'Harel. 

 

God I get so feelsy over this dumb bunch of pixels and code.


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#131245
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Oh can I please join yous :)

You're already a member!

*Inception noise*

BWAAAAAH



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Oh can I please join yous :)

 

Of course. Here's a cookie!



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Of course. Here's a cookie!


Yesssss thank you :) cookie is looking good

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Yesssss thank you :) cookie is looking good

 

I'm glad, friend. Cee took extra care to make them as tasty as possible.


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I'm glad, friend. Cee took extra care to make them as tasty as possible.


Haha thank you I already know they will be tasty cause yous are so kind :)

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Haha thank you I already know they will be tasty cause yous are so kind :)

 

Thank you!


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